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Senate GOP Trying To Scuttle “Repeal It” Amendment

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Senate sources confirm to me this evening that Senator Mitch McConnell and his leadership team are trying to scuttle Republican efforts to force a vote on repeal of the entire health care legislation during the reconciliation process.  I’m told reliably that moderate Republican senators who voted against Obamacare in December do not want to vote against it again because it would just be “symbolic”.  McConnell agrees and is not inclined to push Republicans to go along with any effort to force a vote on repeal during reconciliation, despite David Vitter offering up an amendment to do just that and separate stand alone legislation being offered by Senator Jim DeMint with a host of Republican co-sponsors.

Vitter’s amendment will be up some time around 10:00 p.m. tonight.

COMMENTS

  • huskerchuck

    Erick,

    Are the offerings up anywhere on the web where we can see them? I’d like to see who is sponsoring the efforts, specifically the co-sponsors for DeMint’s bill. Johanns is a great guy, and has been reliably Conservative, as governor and now as senator. But I’m curious as to whether he signed on, and if not, if I can get an answer from him as to why not.

    My wife worked for him and lieutenant governor Maurstad in the early ’00s as an administrative aide. I’ve always like the guy, and thought he did things the right way.

    Thanks for anything you can provide.

  • http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C

    If all this is so good for us, why do they hide in the shadows where few will see?

  • archer52

    Erick,

    That battle is over. They won. They cheated, lied and manipulated, but they won. Demanding repeal is just fighting the already lost battle. Why? Concentrate on the problems with the bill, like the fact they forgot to put in the child protections. Or on the taxes LONG before the benefits. Beat them up on their failures, not challenge their successes. It will make us look bitter to complain some more. Already, the dems are trying to flip the argument. MSM is right with them. Don’t give them the ammo. Remember most Americans can be influenced by a bumper stick moment. Let’s keep focused.

    We have courts to argue the constitutionality, states in open revolt, people who are stunned that they have been ignored and will surely lose their minds completely when the left hits them with immigration reform, higher taxes and cap and trade.

    Plenty of targets in new battle spaces.

  • fpete13527

    All GOP Senators need to vote for FULL REPEAL and FULL START OVER of DEMCARE…without exception. And they need to not just vote for repeal, but also dynamically speak about it.

    McConnell has continued to demonstrate the wrong mindset, actions, and tone since his inception, but it is now over the top.

    From McConnell’s comments the other day on CNN, it is clear that he is still completely committed to cowering to the Huffington progressives and to completely reject all conservative thoughts and actions.

    For McConnell to remain passive and afraid after this outrageous disgrace has been forced on the American people….IS AN INSULT to the American people.

    McConnell needs to go…NOW!

  • Aaron Gardner

    Symbolic or not, you use the tools you have.

    [expletive deleted]

  • Praying

    Grow.A.Spine. Faster, please!!!

  • obladioblada

    why he wanted a leadership position and why he bothers to retain it.

    If there is no value in “symbolic” efforts, they might as well fold on all of the amendments they’re proposing to the reconciliation bill as well. Heck, why don’t they just buy themselves a six-pack and watch Senate proceedings on the tube?

    Yet another reason to strategically donate to individual candidate, not the party and certainly not the party’s anointed “it’s my turn” faves.

  • 308winchester

    AS I said yesterday, Mitch is a nice guy, but isn’t up to the task of leadership anymore if this is true. He did the same thing when Obama care was in the Senate

  • Aaron Gardner

    You are being short sighted.

    It’s not just about the possibility of actually repealing the bill. It is about fighting in order to expose and highlight the enemy’s weakness.

  • Ausonius

    And really, isn’t life in the Senate all about compromise and getting along? :)

    I just re-re-re-watched “Braveheart” a day or two ago. Robert Bruce, future king of Scotland and energized by William Wallace’s revolt against the English, desperately wants to emulate the rebel. But Bruce’s father disparages Wallace: “Uncompromising men are easy to admire.”

    The leprous, dying king of Scotland tells his son Robert Bruce that the “ability to compromise” is what makes a nobleman, and allows him to preserve his lands and power. He advises Bruce to support the revolt in south Scotland, while he will go to northern Scotland and come out against it, playing both sides.

    That pretty well sums up the choking Republican leadership.

  • http://biggator5.net/archive.html BigGator5

    Honestly Erick, I agree with Archer on this one. There is no way we could even get a veto override on this one.

  • Aaron Gardner

    You use the theater of politics to your advantage Gator. Seriously.

  • Common_Cents

    to those that voted for obamaocare.

    Our spineless senior diplomats will stand down unfortunately.

  • http://biggator5.net/archive.html BigGator5

    I guess I just don’t believe in pointless action.

    Maybe it’s a way to get people on the “Repeal It” record now.

    I don’t know, have fun.

  • http://www.hickpolitics.com Dave Poff (haystack)

    McConnell, apparently still riding high from his remarks about Conservative angst being irrelevant…that he assumes GOP pickups in the midterms either way…just goes to show why we need a change in leadership.

    Like our angst against them…THEY have become irrelevant. Truly-how can the current leadership that failed us for the past few years truly lead us through the re-taking of the America they helped destroy?

    Let him yap a little while longer…he needs to go right along with the rest of the clowns that led us astray.

    Hurry up November!

  • Aaron Gardner

    Will tally up the score latter.

  • http://ruminationsaspirations.blogspot.com jonbingham

    I have strong reservations about Rand Paul, but spinelessness like this from McConnell tempts me to reject the Republican establishment’s candidate here in KY.

  • redneck_hippie

    senators fear that if they vote as they wish on repeal amendment, they’ll get primaried. The moderate senators would like to say no to repeal symbolism, but they are too chicken to say it for fear of their jobs. Therefore, the powers that be will not force a vote. I’ve been amazed he kept the Senate together for the last year. Not surprising to me that it could be a bridge too far, what with the squishes he is dealing with and all. It would be better for the repeal movement if they were forced to show their hands, so we would know who to oppose.
    Ergo, no vote.

  • http://ruminationsaspirations.blogspot.com jonbingham

    We need a site for communicating a single message to all Republican Senators at once (same mechanism that was used to communicate one message to all 58 Democrats sitting on the fence through “Say no to Obamacare”).
    We need this tool available on RedState – not only for this issue but for cap-n-trade, immigration, etc. in the months ahead…
    All parts of the Republican establishment need to hear from us repeatedly in 2010.
    Please find someone who can “make it so.”

  • Jonas Parker

    to reject the Republican establishment and all it’s candidates, unless proven otherwise.

  • huskerchuck

    That Red Light makes me think of… ‘Danger, Will Robinson, Danger!’ :D

    Ahhh… a blast from the past.

  • http://www.skiloveland.com skicougar

    Obamacare may be inevitable, but those against it have yet to send any signal to give in.

    If I was Senate majority leader, I would have already handcuffed myself to the presidents chair and tell the dems theyre going to have to physically destroy parts of the chamber to get me out and pass reconciliation.

  • http://www.skiloveland.com skicougar

    Obamacare may be inevitable, but those against it have yet to send any signal to give in.

    If I was Senate majority leader, I would have already handcuffed myself to the presidents chair and tell the dems theyre going to have to physically destroy parts of the chamber to get me out and pass reconciliation.

  • Kyle-MI

    If there is no chance of the repeal amendment being accepted, why are the moderates worried? They have already voted against it when it mattered most. Why are they afraid now of a symbolic vote? Do they have any brains? How in the world did they get elected in the first place?

  • flicka47

    They only have to get one change to what the House approved changed to once again send this back to the House, correct?
    They have, it looks like over 20 amendments to the Bill. Some of which have to be made anyway.
    They might get one or more of them through, but if they start out with an all or nothing, wouldn’t be harder to convince someone to change? And then you have p***ed them off…
    They might get enough of the Dims to go along with some of their amendments to get them passed. But they haven’t any way to get a repeal amendment passed…

  • nessa

    You always know where they stand and what the think, because they tell you. No lying to your face while they plot to stab you in the back. If they are going to stab you it will be while they are looking in your eyes and you’ll know its coming. DC wouldn’t be such a snake pit if it were peopled with disgruntled old a$$holes rather than lying, sneaking politicians. I would rather spend an afternoon arguing the electability and conservative bonafides of Sarah Palin with Art and mbecker than spend a minute in the company of McLame or McConnell.

  • conservos

    an angry and demanding public, the mob, racists, hate-mongers, whatever flavored-label-of-the-day you want to use to denote *US*.

    Smacks of political elitism, the norm.

    IF they signed. it would be “symbolic” of unity.

    They’re not signing. That’s “symbolic” of disintegration within the movement against socialism and government takeover.

    Not signing is a move toward reconciliation — to use an overused and very repulsive word — and negotiating on the Hill again.

    They’re supposed to use every single darn instrument available to them for US, to speak for US, to inspire US, because they failed US the first time, the losers!

    This is their decision to not sign, not ours, and is indicative of .. cozying up, in my opinion.

    Cozy days are here again.

    Vote those mods out of office!!

  • avgjo

    Boehner last night, according to Hannity today, said he was gonna defund this in appropriations next year.

    With all the backroom dealing, the exemption for politicians and now the fact that this doesn’t cover kids with preexisiting conditions like OBama claimed, this will be a knockout.

    In 2013, we repeal it.

    If you’re gonna whine, keep it to yourself. Lots of people we need in this effort are going to lose heart because of people like you.

    What would you have done at Valley Forge, ‘biggator’?

  • Mario

    McConnell doesn’t want to vote on this because some of the provisions in the bill are both popular and free. This is something that we have to be careful about leading up to November as well; every time we push for repeal we have to qualify that by pointing out that we will keep the few good provisions and only toss out the bad. We have both public opinion and the facts on our side; we shouldn’t give into cheap theatrics that the other side can use to demonize us.

    For instance, this bill tries to fix the recission problem. The people want that fixed. We should want that fixed. A full repeal will remove that provision, therefore we don’t want a full repeal. We should be careful about going around saying that that’s what we’d do.

  • conservos

    This is not the sort of thinking that gets us in office.

    EVERYTHING is political maneuvering. EVERYTHING is symbolic.

    Signing is symbolic.

    Maneuver AHEAD, not sit back on your tail and wait or take a step back.

    This is stagnation!

    They predict our fury will be dead and we will “forget” within 6 months. This plays into their hands and does not help our cause!

    And a question: are you the kinda guy who stays home because he thinks his vote won’t count? Or stays home because he thinks his vote will just be cancelled out by his liberal neighbor?

    Rubbish.

  • avgjo

    His uncompromising approach to freedom and principle, and his willingness to keep going should be ours.

  • Bill S

    it is pretty apparent that the public wants the GOP to continue to contest at least parts of the bill. When CBS polls this way, you know there must still be some serious dissatisfaction with it.

  • avgjo

    Think what you want about them, but they have HUGE numbers listening to them.

  • conservos

    They HAVE to learn to play the darn Organizer game to counter this guy.

    Which means playing rhetoric, playing “poster and paper” and signing whatever is accessible and available to motivate others!!

    Ridiculous!

  • america1st

    - with “leaders” like Mitch, he could do damn near anything. What happened, anyway? Did this crew devolve into frenchmen or jimmy piddlepants clones?

  • avgjo

    It puts them on record for us.

    I’ve been the last coupla days yelling it from the rooftops to bombard mcconnell, and it seems no one is listening.

    maybe this will do it.

  • ciscoguy

    The media is now in a full court press trying to tell the public how great the bill is and how Republicans don’t get anything done, etc. We need to stay on message, “How do you like waiting 4 years for your benefits?” “Looks like they forgot to include the pre-existing conditions for kids, eh?” “How do you like your premium increases?” “How do you like the idea of lobbying your congressman for the drugs you’ll want covered?” “Ask your congressman about the bill’s cost once the Doc Fix goes through.”

    The idea of giving them one last chance doesn’t serve any symbolic purpose except to the people who are already mad enough to vote these schmucks out in droves. The media won’t even cover it – they’re too busy telling you how great the bill is.

    I could be completely wrong here, but this could be an opportunity for the Nelson’s and Landrieu’s to flip and claim they figured out that Americans didn’t want it. Realistically, I don’t know anyone who would believe this, and their Senate careers are over either way.

  • redtillimdead

    Can we get Minority Leader Jim DeMint or Tom Coburn now? Someone who is NOT afraid to be painted as the “Party of No”? Seriously, if Mitch thinks “Party of No” is going to HURT us, that tells everything that is wrong with him right there.

  • redneck_hippie

    By definition, moderate means “not willing to stand on principle.” By its very name, symbolic vote MEANS A VOTE ON PRINCIPLE.

    McConnell himself is not on board on a take no prisoners stand, so how can he commandeer the cats in his caucus?

  • earlgrey

    and asked them to support the amendment. I have not gotten a response.

  • cwilson

    ‘Cause what he’s doing now is [bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeep].

  • Section9

    Would someone PLEASE make defunding the IRS Agents a campaign promise in each and every House and Senate race we fund next year.

    Cornyn and McConnell notwithstanding?

    Pretty Please?

    Let’s fight. Eric is right about this.

    We know we can’t repeal now, but this has to be about a Choice, not an Echo, “Bold Colors, not Pale Pastels”.

    As Palin wrote up in her campaign ad to go after the 20 “Centrist” Dems who voted for National Socialism” but are reliable votes for Pelosi, Reid, and Obama, “Take a Stand”.

  • Woo_girl

    I had hoped with all of their big talk they would have grown a set between all of them. Looks like they’re gonna wimp out… as usual.

  • eburke

    is ‘is pointless’?

    I suppose all those amendments that the GOP could have offered, all the unanimous requests they could have denied, all the times they could have forced a reading of an amendment, those were all worthless too because we didn’t really have the votes to stop this thing anyway.

    Oh, except that it would have dragged this thing out into the new year and then, oh that’s right, this guy named Scott Brown got elected who would have been the 41st vote against it, which…let’s see, oh yeah, would’ve kept it from going to the House…who then would’ve never had the opportunity to pass it which means…

    WE WOULDN’T HAVE THIS SOCIALISTIC PIECE OF CRAP RIGHT NOW!

    Sometimes, Gator, you fight on principle because it’s the right thing to do. Funny how often when you do that, good things happen. We had no chance before Christmas so we punted.

    But, hey, what do I know. Fighting it would’ve just been pointless.

  • Section9

    Waaaaaaaaay too much Vichy water being consumed in DC.

  • PaladinLostHour

    There cannot be compromise on this. As Mark Steyn has pointed out ably and at length, universal government health care fundamentally changes the relationship between citizen and state. It’s not *like* welfare. It’s not *like* education. It affects every American, at all stages of life, and conditions them to the idea that the government should insert itself into the most intimate aspects of existence.

    Agreeing with Mitch is just arguing that we shouldn’t march quite so quickly towards slavery – it doesn’t change our destination.

  • Section9

    Time to fight.

    Marco has shown the way in Florida. No more Vichy water.

    Time to round up the Usual Suspects.

  • eburke

    and why he bothers to retain it”

    Simple answer: Power. An absolute, craven lust for pomp and power.

    End of story.

  • Section9

    Although Jim Bunning has been a hoot, of late.

  • rsexteriors

    He is a moderate wimp. We need Demint as our leader.

    This is always what happens, the Democrat leaders fight tooth and nail and beat their members into submission and get what they want and then the wimpy Republican leaders never follow through to reverse anything the democrats do and when the Republican are in the majority all they talk about is “Getting Along” with the minority and APPEASEMENT.

    This is why I hate most politicians. I want people that “Say what they mean and Mean what they say”.

  • http://www.thediscerningconservative.com discerningconservative

    Today on FOX, Boehner talked about defunding Obamacare when Republicans take over. The clip is a little long, but the defunding talk starts at about 3:35. This is something we have to hold him to. Fortunately, I am a Precinct Committeeman in a county that Boehner represents. I will urge my fellow Committeemen to help me hold his feet to the fire.

  • OldNuc

    This present fiasco reminds me of the Kansas-Nebraska Act and the disillusion of the whigs.

  • http://www.thesubstratum.com GJ Merits

    I will personally do an email buy of 1.5 million and find just three others for another 4.5 million and blast this out on Twitter and Facebook and every nook and cranny of this country.

    Your electoral gains will disappear overnight. Third party candidates will pop up in your face everywhere you turn. What use will is the GOP if you can’t even do this?

    And just what am I going to put in this email blast? Your cowardly act of backing down per Erick’s story and every single gory detail in this link:

    http://www.thesubstratum.com/general-politics/demint-and-the-establishment-gop-a-tale-of-spine-vs-spineless/

    That’s right, you remember it well don’t you?

    I have HAD it with you and you ilk. At least the Democrats have a spine, which is probably why we lost the ObamaCare fight. But as far as treachery goes, you are about to match them.

    Your own spine needs a serious starch treatment. Stand up for us and this country or retire before we retire you. This is your last chance. Let us down now and pay this price later. Think and think hard before you act. There are a number of us out here who are frankly pi$$ed and don’t give a damn anymore what the consequences are, and we won’t let anyone forget your treachery if you, once again, stab us in the back.

    This is a turning point. A VERY BIG ONE.

  • bclarkj

    Why is it that Democrats go all out not holding back on what they want but these Senate Repubs crawl in a corner and cower and submit like a dog. This is indication that Mitch is not qualified to lead any fight for our values. Bring on DeMint.

  • usahardcore

    Think again!

    We need to create our own nationalist party with the tea party movement centered on patriotic ideals of the founding fathers.

    The GOP is just as in bed with big government spending communists as the Democrats. As soon as they get in power it’ll more of the McDonnells running the show.

  • http://slcliberty.blogivists.com randy streu

    ‘course, by the time you read MY warning to not promote third parties (because they are idiotic), somebody with actual authority here is probably going to ban your dumb a$$ for a basic inability to read.

  • usahardcore

    NONE of you are hardcore enough for me!! the TRUE conservative patriot here!

    All of you pro mexican amnesty, jew lovin, black lovin, gay lovin SOFTIES!! white power!!

    ONLY USA HARDCORE IS THE TRUE CONSERVATIVE HERE!

    VOTE 3RD PARTY!!

    Hate all minorities and women!!

  • penguin2

    No one from our side or the Tea Parties would come here and speak like this.

    Go back to your Leftist group. That is where hateful nonsense is spewed.

  • janis

    For me, I want the whole thing repealed because everything about it is tainted by the process and the anger it has generated. Republicans are FOR health care reform and they’ve put up their proposals on it more than once. It included some solutions for those in a high-risk pool and for those who’ve had their coverage canceled when they got sick.

    I want a full repeal. Lots of others do as well.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    And thanks for going to DC to protest.

    You said in one of your posts about protesting outside the U.S. Capitol, “They can?t just keep ignoring us and get away with it.”

    Actually, they can. And have. And will. Those who supported socialized medicine are post-modernists. They don’t have any moral scruples. They have majorities in the House and Senate and a Marxist in the presidency now. They don’t think like you and me. You mentioned the oath you took. I took the same one. We believe that that oath actually means something and we will live up to it. The believe such things are quaint notions of the unenlighened “little people.” They believe might makes right, that power comes out of the barrel of a gun. They have the reings of political power and they will now use that power to its maximum use if they can get away with it. Perhaps the only way to strike fear in them is to make them think that they will be tossed out at the ballot box in November. The BEST way to signal that threat to them is to get as many conservatives as possible to INVADE the Republican Party at the grass roots, precinct level. By becoming precinct committeemen.

    Go to my blog below to learn more.

    If we could get all of the Tea Partiers and other grass roots conservatives to UNITE in the Republican Party at the grass roots level, and thereby become politically RELEVANT, then we could change the Republican Party into a 100 per cent strength (it was at half strength in the 2008 election cycle), conservative powerhouse (it’s split about 50-50 right now ideologically between conservatives and RINOs — Michael Steele (elected by the precinct committeemen) is Exhibit A to that fact).

    You will have not heard any elected Republican talk about this at the protests at the Capitol because even they don’t want the grass roots conservative Tea Partiers to invade and take over the Party because even they are afraid they’ll get tossed out in their primary contest if a better, more conservative newcomer, who’s never been to Washington, challenges them.

    So I hope you’ll become a PC and drag every conservative you know to your next local GOP to find out how to become one in your state.

    And thanks again for going to the Capitol, even though I don’t believe it really made a difference to the post-modernists.

    Thank you.
    ColdWarrior
    No More Scozzafavas!
    Become a Republican precinct commiteeman. NOW!

  • janis

    This guy can’t even mimic a decent tool. Want to bet how long it takes someone to erase him and his drooling?

  • usahardcore

    WHERE WERE YOU!?!?

    I support this 110%!

    They hardcore like me!!!

  • usahardcore

    Tough choice for a hardcore right wing activist like me!!!

  • http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C

    he called it a “nationalist” party anyway.

    And below, penguin2 tagged his buddy.

    Only leftists would use language like that.

  • http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C

    Keep acting like a 12 year old. It suits you.

  • http://jeffersonrebels.blogspot.com ericathunderpaws

    Since the Democratic Congress wrote a health bill that excludes themselves from mandatory participation in their horrific plan, seems to me there might be a groundswell of support if we pushed our representatives at every level to offer an amendment to the constitution which says:

    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States.”

    http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/01/28th-amendment-congress-shall-make-no.html

  • janis

    your side, the Left, that is consistently the most racist. Also the most sexist. And certainly the most foul-mouthed. Not to mention corrupt. And ignorant of history, especially American history.

    So, you know, you’re a perfect representative of your side. Congrats!

  • dio55

    I see mitch’s point here

  • graciegirl

    Seriously, is there anything we can do to affect the leadership. Should we ALL write McConnell or ALL write the 41 Senators? I’ve had it with McConnell like most of the rest of you. WHAT can we do?

  • eburke
  • erod
  • eburke

    You guys are haters. So you think we are.

    You guys are racists. So you think we are.

    You guys are foul-mouthed, rude sexists. So you think we are.

    So….when you come over to try to ‘imitate’ us, you just reveal yourself to be the leftist tool you are because, in the end, we are nothing like the leftist caricature that your media make us out to be.

    Thus…Epic.Fail

  • Jack_Savage

    And I will not mention Robert Byrd, nor will I mention that George C. Wallace ran for the ….wait for it….Democrat nomination for President. I WILL NOT DO IT. Nope.

    I am also not going to mention that people who are very confident about their electoral position do not come to conservative websites and try to show us their little Johnson.

  • weatherford

    My information from inside the beast (the Senate — 30 minutes ago) is that Mitch is feeling a tad loose in the saddle.

    He sees the Parade and wonders why he isn’t leading it. Maybe he wants to get in front. And that is fine as long as he is not allowed to get in its way.

    Sooner or later, however, the clown has got to be removed. He has done nothing really but imperil our freedom.

    Sound a bit personal. Well it is. It isn’t just our freedom, it is mine.

    This squish has always opted for the easy road while pretending to take the high road.

    Some on the inside think he can be reformed. Maybe so, but why take the chance.

    Long term, the only effective solution is to throw him to the curb before it is too late.

  • erod
  • avgjo

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001117-503544.html

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    Of course.

  • weatherford

    and only now waking up. And he doesn’t have to be formally removed, just ignored.

    It is the same thing.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    Fetishists are weird.

  • rsexteriors

    You may be right that the protests in D.C may not have had much affect on some in Congress, but the protests have been a rallying cry to American’s all over the country. Conservatives, by nature, do not “protest”. It iour may be right that the protests in D.C may not have had much affect on some in Congress, but the protests have been a rallying cry to American’s all over the country. Conservatives, by nature, do not “protest”. It is not something that feels natural. The protests are getting people “active” and the more the politicians do not listen to us the more determined we are to make them hear us in Novemember.

    I do think the protests gave the Republican politicians some backbone and they did stays not something that feels natural. The protests are getting people “active” and the more the politicians do not listen to us the more determined we are to make them hear us in Novemember.

    I do think the protests gave the Republican politicians some backbone and support they needed to stay united in opposition. Had there been no protests at all, especially the 9/12 protest, I do not believe the republicans would have stayed united.

    I think we need to keep going to Washington D.C. and keep protesting and in much greater numbers. And we need to protest outside major media outlets that like to try and ignore us.

    I totally agree with you that we need people to get involed, at the local level, and take back the Republican party. All the talk of a 3rd party is crazy talk. That would just help the Democrats and Rino Republicans. I am involved in my local Republican party and I have committed to helping conservative candidates in the pennsylvania primary and GOP candidates in the fall.

  • weatherford

    cannot afford this bozo. He is simply too dangerous.

    There is going to be no way to fight until this internal menace is removed or made completely irrelevant.

    The Senate is our best hope for holding the bridge until November. That can be done with or without Mitch, and he is already being ignored by Senators who owe there allegiance to the Consitution not to a sorry bag of wind, who is only an albatros around the neck of freedom.

    Gutless wonders have no place on the line of battle.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    Not randy; the guy that he was responding to.

    Said troll had it figured that he could do the standard ‘start small, and work his way up’ routine; but being about twenty IQ points dumber than he thinks that he is, and having underestimated everyone else’s IQ by about forty points, he got called on it right away. So, he went for his Special Time right afterward*.

    Anyway, please remember: these people aren’t what you call mentally stable. Be careful. :)

    *Yes. I weep for his partner, too.

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    Am I missing something? A vote to repeal the bill would be defeated and be purely symbolic. They could go through with and have it defeated or they could just forget about it. Why go through the motion?

  • earlgrey

    republicans when it is prety clear most republicans in the country and most of the country does not want this bill?

  • rsexteriors

    also don’t mention that the governerns, in the south, during segregtion were DEMOCRATS and that the Civil Rights Act was repeatedly blocked by Byrd and democrats and that it only became law because Republicans crossed over and voted for it. Or that Lincoln was a Republican

    Don’t say it because you can not teach those that do not want to know the truth.

  • kateusa

    Why does McConnell keep getting a free pass? This man is not our friend. He and his RINO cohorts like Cornyn seem intent on undermining conservatives and are capable of doing nearly as much damage to liberty and constitutional government as anyone on the other side. This is not a political game. The life and freedom of every American is at stake.

  • renny

    I’m not sure what one repeal amendment would do either. So, the 41 Reps. would vote for it if the amendment ever came to the floor, but the Dems. will never pass a complete repeal at this early date for any reason.

    So, why are you bashing McConnell again?

  • Jonas Parker

    Just south of you… we are neighbors

  • avgjo

    In politics of all things, symbols are very important. IT is to rally us, their base. Not doing this can feed into the narrative (which the dems desperately want to take root) that the Republicans will not repeal this.

    that causes the motivation of the base to die, and that will kill the very real chance that we have of getting rid of this.

  • nessa

    …I’m not sure exactly what that position translates to, chief clipboard carrier or some such I’m sure.

    Speaking of ol’ Robert, he is the perfect spokesman for Obamacare. Since I’m certain he passed several months ago, Nancy used some of her potions and waved her broom over him and now he’s a zombie. Hidden away lest some poorly embalmed portion fall off in an embarrassing place, and trotted out only to have his finger pressed to the “Yes” button and play his part in the democrats despotic execution of their plan. Its a damn shame that house got Nancy’s sister, I’d much prefer the wicked witch of the east…

  • avgjo

    i was being a little ironic. he definitely needs to go. frankly, we should place him on the same list as stupak, reid and others. he needs to be retired.

    this is freedom of you, me and everyone in this country.

    this bill puts a gun to the head of every elderly person, every sick child and everybody these bstrds deem ‘unworthy’ of life.

    i will not stand by idly while they do this.

  • renny

    even a comma, and then it has to go back to the House for another vote.

    A repeal amendment will get nowhere.

    Make Dems. vote on the problems with the bill from the taxation to what isn’t really covered that they’ve bragged is to the funding that the House might be able to forestall. If the deal isn’t funded, it doesn’t matter what little o signed.

    We already have a Medicare Audit and Recover Act from 2005 that the gov’t doesn?t use for fraud and mistakes simply because the one year it was in force it evidently brought back too much money to DC.

    Useless amends are worthless. There’s enough energy to expend on what’s possible than what’s good for some egos. Tea partiers and reg. Reps. have to do the gut work, get out and register voters instead of leaving it to the likes of ACORN (now a little neutered but not decapitated), campaign door to door, sit in polling sites and be judges and challengers.

    To change the political landscape means real action all around.

  • snowday

    As much as I’d like to see this travesty repealed, simply voting for it won’t make it happen. Until we have majorities in both houses of Congress, we CAN’T repeal it. Think any of the Dems will vote to repeal?

    Better that McConnell work toward getting a Republican majority in the Senate as that is the first but necessary step toward a repeal.

  • youthgrunt

    that can be moved on in this reconciliation process. One can easily argue that the “repeal-it amendment” has already been voted on when they actually voted on the bill. That actually sounds very strange to me and a waste of an amendment proposal.

    There is a difference between standing for repealing the bill and proposing it as an amendment. Quite frankly I am not sure where Mitch stands on repealing, but we are talking about tactics here and not principled positions. I wish we would distinguish between the two.

    As I understand what the GOP is trying to achieve with these amendments is to get the Democrats on record voting against things that they will have to defend in their election this fall. They are already either on the record for what they think of the bill as a whole. Now we need to put them on the record of some very specific issues.

    As otherwise observed, repeal will only be able to happen in 2013. Things can be done between now and then, but it will take until then to fully repeal the whole bill.

  • rsexteriors

    from REPEAL to “lets just change a couple things” and claim VICTORY. The WHOLE bill has to be REPEALED or deemed UnConstitutional or the Socialists get their framwork for a government run healthcare takeover.

    McConnell does not want to fight and truth be known he would most likely voted for the bill had it not been so opposed by the voters and had not provided something to run againt the dems in Novemember.

    Just like on Amnesty, in 2006, McConnell, McCain, Bennett, Brownback, Collins, Graham, Gregg, Lugar, Murkowski , Snowe, Voinovich, and the other (12) Republican Senators, that are no longer Senators, would have voted for OBAMACARE if it had been an off year and the public had not been so vocal against it.

    They only backed down on Amnesty at the last minute after a version had passed both the Senate and the House in 2006.

    They are not Conservatives and do not have the concern for the Constitution that they profess.

  • renny

    is going to rally it.

    They are already offering amendments that might really work. Repeal is a non-starter and forcing Reps. to dance to some bloggers’ tunes isn’t the way any of this should go either. McConnel might not be a firebrand, but he has held the Reps. in the Sen. together for MONTHS, and if you think that has been easy or just a cake walk, you’ve forgotten that for a while Snowe was invited to the White House every day. Then for a couple weeks it was Lugar (now there is someone who really should be replaced), That little o could not peel off one Rep. is an accomplishment that cannot be appreciated enough.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Imagine if the head of ResistNet.com, with about 75,000 online members now, held a press conference tomorrow that said they were going to urge ALL of their members to invade the Republican Party to become precinct committeemen.

    And then TeamSarah.org’s head made the same announcement the next day about their 75,000+ members.

    And then the heads of the Tea Party Express, Tea Party Patriots, Tea Party Nation, Tea Party X, Y, Z, etc., and the heads of the various 9.12 groups and WeSurroundThem groups did the same thing?

    Imagine if those who think “doing something” to change things means having a rally would “pivot” (per current DC politi-speak) and take all that energy, organizing ability, conservative knowledge and principles INTO their local GOP meetings where they could actually TAKE OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

    See what I wrote about this this morning here about what happened in Clark County, Nevada (and is happening all across Nevada and here in Arizona):

    http://www.redstate.com/vassar/2010/03/24/is-the-american-conservative-union-sending-false-positives/#comment-1633

    Our goal is to change the outcome of the elections, no? If so, then work backwards from that goal.

    Your candidate has to be on the general election ballot.

    To do that, your candidate has to win the all-important, traditionally-very-low-turnout primary election.

    To do that, you have to make sure the voters get to the polls with knowledge about why your candidate is the best conservative candidate.

    To do that, YOU have to know the candidates. The BEST way to do that is to go to your monthly GOP meetings. And the BEST way to get the vote out for the candidates you’ll vet at those meetings is to become a precinct committeeman. Because then you’ll have some “gravitas” with the Republican and independent voters in your precinct when you make recommendations as to which candidates to vote for. In addition, YOU, the precinct committeeman, get to vote for your local and county GOP leaders and elect the delegates who go to the State convention, which in turn elect the delegates to the RNC convention. YOU get to help decide who the next RNC Chairman is. Michael Steele is a reflection of the ideological split in the Party — we conservatives could achieve a strong conservative majority in the Party if enough of us would actually set aside the keyboard for a couple of hours a month and get to our local GOP meetings.

    You said you are “involved in my local Republican party” and I hope that means you are a PC so you can vote for the Party leaders in PA.

    Thanks again for all you are DOING!

    ColdWarrior

  • rsexteriors

    I think there should be many more and they should drag it out as long as possible, but at least they want to get the democrats on RECORD as opposing these things or get at least one thing changed so it gets kicked back to the house again and stays in the news for the next months to come.

    Then when democrats run negative ads in November about how Republican so and so does not want little children to have health care it can be countered with Democrat so and so voted to allow sex offenders prescription drug coverage for Viagra, etc

    Bars Sex Offenders from Receiving E.D. Drugs
    Protect Medicare Savings
    Remove Sweetheart Deals
    No Tax Hikes for Families Earning Under $250,000
    Strike the Employer Mandate
    Requires Legislation Not Increase Premiums
    Requires President, Congress Enroll in Exchange
    Reduce Student Loan Interest Rate
    Members On Medicaid
    State Opt Out
    Block Medicare Advantage Cuts
    Waive Employer Mandate Tax
    Strike CLASS Act
    Remove New Taxes on Investments
    Protect Wounded Soldiers from Medical Device Tax
    Protect Pediatrics and Disabled from Medical Device Tax
    Protect Cancer Patients from Medical Device Tax
    Strike Medical Device Tax
    Tricare and Veterans Health Programs
    Rationing
    Critical Access Hospitals
    Repeal Democrats’ Health Care Bill

  • eburke
  • Jonas Parker

    I’m at McClintock/Warner. I work at the facility NW corner of Elliot/101… for almost 30 years. I’m sure you are familiar with it. Would like to discuss the PC thing. Don’t know about he etiquette on this, but I could put a temporary email address on here. ?? Let me know

  • rsexteriors

    They can offer admendments forever as long as they have something to do with the healthcare bill. There is no DEBATE on the admendments just a vote, but they can keep going and going. They just decided to make a point by offering what they are offering, hoping to change the bill so it will go back to the house, and then move on to campaigning to repeal or if McConnell gets his was to fix and replace it.

  • LeaveMeAlone

    And I appreciate those in the Senate that continue to stand on principle, no matter how overwhelming the opposition may be.

  • rsexteriors

    I just think we can do both. To go “indoors” or stay out of the public eye would not, in my opinion, be a good thing. I think many would get discouraged and I think being quiet and out of site would be exactly what many dems want. They want things to “calm” down between now and election concerning health care.

    Plus it is my belief that Obama will be going for AMNESTY very soon. If we are “indoors” and not protesting that he will get Amnesty also and 30 Million new voters for the democrat party

  • eburke

    (geez, sis, I can’t believe I have to ‘splain that to you *again*; Boy, was Mama right when she said you weren’t the bright one in the bunch)

  • archer52

    McConnell is doing it for all the reasons that makes you all go nuts. He is been in the Senate too long, he is an establishment old guard Republican and he is used to being b-slapped by hard core democrats.

    That said, you are looking at a juggernaut. The Republicans can delay and highlight, which is fine. They should continue to pound the tax but no benefits; holes in the bill that was looked at by 537 politicians and their staffs and was supposed to be the end all and perfect; proving once again it was not about health but control.

    Dingell helps, as do all the nut cases, who are filled with so much arrogance right now they are getting way to open in the disdain they have for you.

    This is a long haul and a multi-tasking effort. Fight the bill. Highlight the absurd mandates. Fight in the courts. Let the left blab until the vast middle of America gets nauseous to the point of vomiting. Nobody likes a blow hard or gloating.

    bclark asks why the dems go all out and the Rep. seem timid. There is a long history inside McConnell’s and his ilk’s brain that carries years of minority submission. There is also a certain mannerism, a certain conduct expected from Republicans that draw that type of personality to the party. On the other hand, the democrats willingly accept all kinds of ideologues and true believers. Imagine the Catholic Church vs radical Islam. In a fair fight the good guy usually loses, and the dems know this.

    Finally, in this case, you are witnessing the bastardization of the old Democrat party. Even the lefties like Nelson are not comfortable with the “sixties” madness within the party. They too made the deal with the devil and are now paying for it.

    This war will be settled when the people cannot afford to take the hit any longer. We are a spoiled but independent in the sense that we don’t mind taking other people’s money in the cause of “fairness”, but balk at getting fleeced ourselves. (Yes, it makes no sense but that is how we seem to operate.)

    The real race is between the radicals remaking the nature of the government vs. the time it will take for the masses in America to realize they are literally being bled to death and revolt. The Republicans are the going to have to manage that event. It will require steel and balance. Much like sword fighting. Get too aggressive, too pushy and your opponent will bury his blade in you. Let me make the mistakes and strike when he is off balance is a far better way to go.

    I think they aren’t nearly done. Wait this immigration hits or cap and trade and the same “push it through without regard to the people’s will” cr*p starts all over again.

    The left is caught out front right now. If they push their next agenda through it will burn brightly for all summer, if the Republicans work any magic at all. Can you imagine how upset the mass in the middle will get when they are told illegals should get to vote, felons get to vote, their business will get slap with “carbon” taxes just as the whole climate change is being proven to be a sham created to make lefties rich.

    At the same time if they rest or lay low, their window will close in November (Unless they cheat or we are misreading the voting public’s anger. If the second is a reality and the same old corrupt politicians are put back in, then that means the tipping point we fear for America was behind us and we missed it.)

  • weatherford

    Do yourself a favor. Get out of the way. The rest of us are going on.

  • popdaddy

    Whenever Republicans wanted to accomplish an objective for their base, Senators like McCain, Graham and other ?moderates? would scrape together some willing democrats to form a ?Gang of____? to block the measure.

    What the Hell is going on in the Senate now? Where is the Gang? Why are the democrats not calling McCain, Graham and GOP moderates to stop these tax increases, Federal government takeover of the student loan program and other unconstitutional measures?

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Why don’t you take that out of your mouth.

  • mmcan

    About 2 years into W’s first go round. Bigger govt, more entitlements, more of so many things the country did not, and does not need.

    If even after this devastating ObamaCare fiasco, and I mean this STRICTLY for what it means to the country, not the GOP,… If even after this, the GOP leadership STILL DOESN’T FRICKING GET IT, they too need to be evicted from any and all political positions they occupy.

    Censor this as you will,… But they can go phuck themselves to an even greater extent than they’ve screwed us. I am so sick of this same old status quo.

    Get the phuck out of the way of the REAL conservative movement in this country, the ONLY real chance this country has of surviving this onslaught from the left.

  • http://www.libertytreehugger.com reverelth

    After getting thrown out with the trash by the other side of the aisle on their signature legislation, Mitch McConnell resumes his role as an enabler of duplicitous and self-destructive “civility.”

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    coldwarrior1978 at gmail dot com.

    Freescale, I take it?

    Let’s try to get together.

    Thanks,
    ColdWarrior

  • AceInTX

    He’s the worse type of vermin that exists in the world…he’s a fifth columnist who acts like he’s one of us all the while aiding and abetting the enemy in achieving his ends and goals

    on issue after issue…and vote after vote he proves himself to be an ineffectual buffoon at best…

    but what do I know…I’m a purist who can’t see past my precious principles {/snark}

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    are a great place to recruit precinct committeemen.

    Let’s get the Party to full strength with an influx of conservatives. Let’s get to the point where there’s at least two conservatives vying for every PC slot in the Party.

    If you want to strike FEAR into the minds (I’d started to say hearts, but they don’t have any) of the post-modernist things that occupy the Debtocrat seats in the Congress and the White House, turn the Republican Party into a conservative powerhouse.

    Holding a sign at a rally doesn’t really accomplish either. Holding a sign at a rally does not make our Party stronger, nor does it strike fear in the minds of the Debtocrats. But making the Republican Party a conservative powerhouse directly threatens the re-election chances of the Debocrats. THAT is what really matters, no?

    Thank you.
    ColdWarrior

  • snowshooze

    I e-mailed Mitch right off and told him he shouldn’t screw it up for my state and Kentucky could do whatsoever it wants so far as I am concerned. But in his position he is accountable to me as well.
    We cannot tolerate this treatment.
    And so far as the bigger picture..I think they want to push us to insurrection, declare martial law and start running this country the way it outta be run….
    They seem to be making some progress with this strategy…
    Mark

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Could you please explain HOW you plan to accomplish this.

    You said there is a “REAL conservative movement in this country.” Where is it? And what’s its strategy?

    Thank you.
    ColdWarrior
    No More Scozzafavas!
    Become a Republican precinct committeeman. NOW!

  • archer52

    McConnell is who he is. His time will pass. The young guns coming up are running on high octane. I’m not sure jumping on him is where I would center my efforts. I think there are enough hard chargers in the party they can run over and around McConnell, probably with his quiet blessing.

    I’m not sure I would want to beat on dems and try to clean house at the same time. They want that to happen. Concentrate on crushing them this summer and in November. Get the majority back and then immediately AFTER that, switch out leaders.

    Reagan had a gift for reaching over an unfriendly media and talking directly to the people. I think some of the young ones in Congress do the same thing. Mike Pence, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor come to mind.

    McConnell and some of the old dogs can’t keep up. If I were God for a day, I’d replace the whole crew including Boehner. Mike Pence, Cantor, Bachmann and Ryan. On the Senate side I’m open to suggestions.

  • obladioblada

    give him a big ceremonial head dress and a hammer and let him go play by himself in the corner while the grown-ups take care of business?

  • mbecker908

    Mitchell’s not in it for the power. He’s in it because he’s consumed with Robert Michel disease. Like the permanent minority leader in the House before Newt, Mitchell and Michel both like their leadership positions because it put them first in line for the crumbs from the Democrat’s table.

    There’s no power in being a loser. Even – especially – if you’re the chief of the losers.

  • jdp

    what possible good does this type of amendment attempt do? Oh how tough we are! We made them vote against repealling the bill! And everybody goes back to sleep; “Oh, those crazy Republicans.”

  • mmcan

    Start there. DO NOT give money to Cornyn or Steele to spend as THEY see fit, bc they’re also playing the same old RINO game.

    Educate yourself. Learn more about the entire process. Join a local Tea Party group, and link up further with regional and state and then national groups/candidates with similar political stances.

    Exert yourself. Spend some money on the good ones. But direct it yourself. (one of the biggest ways to affect political change is by spending money on those candidates you favor. Make NO mistake about it, increasing tax burdens on the private sector is a purposeful and malicious way the govt hopes to diminish you and your voice/opinion).

    But most important,… DO NOT TAKE THIS CRAP ANYMORE!. Find a way to make this happen through what YOU CAN DO, not what I think should be done.

  • http://www.libertytreehugger.com reverelth

    as the wondering whether certain of reach-across-the-aisle gang would have actually voted for this pig with four bits support in the polls. Because I guaran-damn-tee when the group health renewals come in the fall and insured people are BEGGING for only 39% premium increases (but are seeing them 2-3 times higer thanks to ending recisions and annual and lifetime caps), Mitch and the Merrymen will be shoving each other out of the way to claim intellectual ownership of repeal.

  • janis

    Brainless is as brainless does. :-)

  • Jonas Parker

    and will do. Would like to get together.

  • conservativemusician

    He is obviously far more comfortable being in the minority. Unfortunately, he has 4 more years to go after the November election. The biggest lesson with the passage of health care in my view is that the primary process is of the utmost importance. If we continue turning a blind eye when we have the opportunity to replace these milquetoasts, then we deserve the mixed results we are now reaping with McConnell, Cornyn, Hutchison, McCain, Graham, and all the other RINOs we constantly gripe about.

  • SoulEspresso

    sed ego sum homo indomitus.”

    Supposedly that’s lousy Latin, but that type of leader is exactly what we need.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    I have a strategy. It’s at the blog below and it’s just good old fashioned grass roots party politics that most conservatives, sadly, either don’t know about or just don’t want to engage in, preferring instead to “instruct from on high” in blogs. I call the strategy, for lack of a better term, the Neighborhood Precinct Committeeman Strategy. Purpose? Get a working majority of conservatives in the Party internal voting positions (called precinct committeeman in some states, captain in others, etc.) so we conservatives can elect conservatives to the leadership positions and get out the vote in the primaries for the best conservative candidates.

    I was hoping you were going to give me an alternative strategy.

    Have you ever tried to become a “card carrying member” of the Party so you can be “inside” it and vote for the leadership? Have you tried to recruit other conservatives to join you in that endeavor?

    I’m an elected precinct committeeman. And I’m an “at large” elected member of my county’s Executive Guidance Committee and helped four other conservatives to get elected to the four other slots on the Committee. We were elected by all of the precinct committeemen who attended the county annual meeting (or sent their proxies with another PC from their precinct).

    This is basic civics. Basic party politics. Precinct committeemen ARE the Party. I submit if you are disgruntled with the Party, then join it. And change it from within. Come on in, the water’s fine. With HALF the PC slots in the Party vacant, on average, in every county and state, there’s plenty of room for you. If all the slots happen to be filled where you live, no matter. Go to the local GOP meetings and learn the ropes.

    I hope you’ll take a look at my blog and the strategy and then come into the Party and help me and the other conservatives IN it change it. We elected PCs in AZ are doing just that.

    Thank you.
    ColdWarrior
    No More Scozzafavas!
    Become a Republican precinct committeeman. NOW!

    I asked if YOU had a STRATEGY.

  • http://www.thediscerningconservative.com discerningconservative

    It’s been awhile since I gave a handful of 5′s to one of your well formed nudges to become a Precinct Committeeman. Thank you ColdWarrior for your valiant effort.

  • SoulEspresso

    that the Democrats never do anything that actually helps poor minority communities (or rather, creates incentives for them to help themselves), but keeps suckering them for votes election after election while telling them the Republicans are “racists.”

    That stuff’s current events (see Detroit). You wouldn’t want them to notice.

  • avgjo

    I was gonna say ‘Would to God we found such a man!’

    But no, WE must be these kind of people.

    Then the leader will come.

    There is an expression, the teacher comes when the student is ready.

    I think it is also true, the leader comes when the people are ready.

    The Scots were tough, principled and wanted freedom.
    The Colonial Americans, same.

    The leaders fit such people.

    We should ask ourselves, would such leaders fit us? If not why not?

  • avgjo

    I was gonna say ‘Would to God we found such a man!’

    But no, WE must be these kind of people.

    Then the leader will come.

    There is an expression, the teacher comes when the student is ready.

    I think it is also true, the leader comes when the people are ready.

    The Scots were tough, principled and wanted freedom.
    The Colonial Americans, same.

    The leaders fit such people.

    We should ask ourselves, would such leaders fit us? If not why not?

  • archer52

    I forgot the word, “with”. I would chose those young focused people in a heartbeat.

  • redtillimdead

    For Coburn. In the next congress. Coburn will be a strong leader and he is playing for the same team as Demint. However, he has more connections with the more moderate members of the senate, so that might be more votes for those that want a STRONG minority/majority leader.

  • redtillimdead

    Because he’s, ya know, awesome and the man who wrote the amendment. I love Vitter.

  • weatherford

    done when the goal is obstruction — which, until this November, should be the only goal of any Senator who wants one iota of respect from anyone who values freedom as subordinate only to God and never to man. Or most especially, in this present case, to any pretentious, flacid “leader.”

    It is discomforting that, even on this site, with all of its value and its even more valuable participants, there are still among us a number who are completely untudored in the strategic purpose achieved through the subtle tactics of Senate Procedure.

    For those few, I regret we lack time at the moment to explain how, on countless occasions, Senate Procedure, skillfully used — often for what might appear to outsiders as delay for the sake of delay — has, in the final outcome, saved this country from untold misery.

    At present, on an operational level, I failed to post this info last time (the celtic blood interfered with my mind), and it may be old news or OBE by now, but the Senate is supposed to stay in session until 3:00 A.M. and come back thereafter at noon.

    Obviously, Reid and Mitch are trying to use the Jet Fume tactic to break the effort to hold the Reconciliation Bill hostage over the two week Easter Recess. (When you have a winning position, keep it before the public as long as humanly possible; knowing that is why your opponents are livid and give out all the empty drama of their pretended indignation.)

    Thus, the old saying used to be, “The more they bleat, the more reason to make them bleat.”

    Senators, when manhood was held dear, regularly rejected the recess ploy usually saying, “Well, I’ll just go to Church in D.C. and put a pallet in my office.” Even today, that would shut up Reid and Mitch as well. Remember, they want to go on recess too.

    Those byegone days are gone indeed, but they can be restored.

    The floor of the U.S. Senate has been the stage for great conflict, great defeats, great victories, and great men … very great men.

    Are they there now — in spirit, abiding with the living, hoping to imbue them with the tenacity and unfailing humor of a great legislator? I, for one, feel their presence. And they have been absent too long.

    This crisis for our country will bring, for its Senate, at least one enduring good. It will anneal the iron of some and make it steel, and it will break through and crumble the facade of the weak.

    Sure, no one wins by losing, but many lose by winning. That is the game tonight.

  • conservos

    who didn’t vote for healthcare based on Queen Nancies directive.

    Forcing a vote or signatures on an amendment would have cleared the waters, forced each and every “Blue Dog” dems’s hand.

    You’re either American or a socialist. Would have made things more clear.

    To change the political landscape would have meant you twittering and calling the hell out of your Senator or McD’s office.

    Guess you wanted an off night tonight, renny.

  • weatherford

    It is not a game anymore. McConnell must be remove as a noticable factor in public life.

    He has not changed, but we have, No more frauds. No more sunshine patriots. Leave us, we have left you,

  • conservos

    who has been NON-STOP since he came into office, beginning with the order to refund the UN’s Population Fund for abortions throughout the world.

    Obama is an political animal unlike America has ever seen.

    He plays dirty politics, CONSTANTLY, woos the public CONSTANTLY.

    And he has the advantage of using tax-payer funds to spread his socialist message through tax-payer funded WH and government blogs, through non-profits he gives grants to, AND the entire liberal and academic establishement.

    We are completely leaderless, my friend, with no one but a “dead guy” (per jerk libs) to grace our ads and stir our souls (Reagan).

    And you want us to be *silent*? And be on the defensive — act how they don’t want us to act, play ring around the rosey and hope they “rest or lay low”??

    No way, man.

    Fight Obama tactics, Obama style, NON-STOP, the way he does.

    Hijack BACK the language he took from us. And use their language of social justice, etc.

    Utilize EVERYONE, every blogger, every thinktank, every pundit, every commentator, everyday. Fall in love with social media.

    Help the public understand they are the enemy NOW, using every means and instrument available, constantly filling the public’s ear and reminding them why they feel the way they feel.

    DO NOT surrender the American Narrative. Wake up, don’t sleep.

  • conservos

    if you only knew the depth and access the Obama Administration has to spread his message — at our taxpayer funded expense — maybe you would feel appreication for the bloggers who write/type/read/research/present tirelessly to fight the Executive Organizer who has the entire liberal, academic, non-profit, billionaire, anyone who wants gov funds/money establishment at his disposal.

    That’s this sort of war, or don’t you know?

    Your friend McD knows this.

    And he’s wasting a chance to show leadership.

    That’s ok.

    He can take gutless, “appreciative” guys like you with him when we vote his sorry mod butt outta office.

  • mavericktime

    Daniel Henninger has an excellent editorial in the Wall Street Journal today, http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703312504575141861671228600.html?mod=rss_opinion_main.

    In it, he argues that this health care debate has distilled the parties down to their true essence: the Democrats are now clearly the “party of the state” and the Republicans by default have become the party of the private economy.

    Republicans should build their movement around this core idea – and Paul Ryan’s basic statement in his summation speech from Sunday night – “This is ultimately about what kind of country we are going to be in the 21st century.”

    Good stuff. Simple and basic.

  • weatherford

    No one is listening to their babble. It is well beyond that now.

    The People want a counterattack and they are totally not interested in anything but revenge. The simply dont care one wit about the details. They have heard enough, and they just hate now with a white hot flame.

    Do you like being told to stuff it? Well, these folks dont like it either, and they want blood.

    It is not a time to worry about details; it’s a time to attack with a broadsword and not a pair of Mitch’s pruning shears. It is our garden, and we will level it to keep it.

    Why in hell is this so hard for you to understand?

    At the pitchfork and torch stage, staying on message means this: “We’re going to kick their ass.”

  • weatherford

    we are sick of temporizers.

    We need to cut out the dead wood. We want EVERY vote to imperil. They either gut up to their duty, or they get hung out to dry.

    We dont have time to pretend. If they want to cut bait, we will make them the bait. The Gloves must come off.

  • nessa
  • partyof1

    The Republicans have a real opportunity here. Naturally they’ll be clueless what do do with it. The hand wringing and nail biting is already starting.

  • weatherford

    Is the a flag aound which those of us who want to rally can go after the gutless wonder?

    My checkbook and my time are ready.

    I am going through these posts to try to find out where to mail cash.

  • weatherford

    nt

  • weatherford

    GOP “Moderates” are unavailable, for the moment, for service to the Democrat Party because all RINOs have been shown the door and dont like the looks of things on the block.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    Cheers
    VB

  • Ausonius

    He’s a schmuck.

    Which might be an insult to schmucks: let’s use “schlemiel” instead.

    As I wrote yesterday, he is a compromiser, a “let’s all get along” professional politician. We cannot afford him in this era of creeping Nanny-State Slavery.

    Time to retire!

  • Ausonius

    He’s a schmuck.

    Which might be an insult to schmucks: let’s use “schlemiel” instead.

    As I wrote yesterday, he is a compromiser, a “let’s all get along” professional politician. We cannot afford him in this era of creeping Nanny-State Slavery.

    Time to retire!

  • mikerazar

    what is the point of a meaningless vote on it now? It makes us look foolish. Let’s do the heavy lifting and elect Republicans in November. No matter what they say now, if repeal has a chance, every republican will support it. Having a chance means in 2013 controlling Congress and the White House.

    Meanwhile, I am not going to use a vote on repeal now as a litmus test. The other delaying amendments are a good idea. even though they are sure to lose. Each one highlights a different bad aspect of the bill. Each one provides winning debating points. A vote on repeal now adds nothing to the fight. If you want a symbolic vote, fine. Just don’t make a big deal out of it.

  • earlgrey

    Thanks for the post, and I’ll read it.

    As sad as I am, (believe me I have lost 10 lbs. I didn’t need to lose) to see all this happening, I think it had to happen at some point to shine the light on the effects of policies and force us to debate them openly.

  • http://www.thesubstratum.com GJ Merits

    It almost seems intentional or they are really that disconnected and dumb. If we want to save this party and clean up in November the leadership in the Senate needs a serious overhaul. Cap-and-trade is next and the ONLY way to stop that, given that a few RINOs will actually go along with this debacle, will be to Obstruct and remove unanimous consent. It will only have to be done for a short while because election season is starting very soon and nobody will want to touch it.

    Get McConnell out of leadership NOW and save the GOP. Put in DeMint and let’s watch the generic ballot shoot up to +15 for the Republicans. I don’t want McConnell’s stupid actions to be the catalyst for demoralization or, worse yet, third party movements.

    It looks like they did allow the amendment. Now McConnell needs to know we will be watching him like a hawk. Act like a fiscal conservative and stop at nothing to obstruct any other socialist program from the start. Not one week in, not two weeks in, but right out of the gate. Obstruct. Obstruct. Obstruct.

    Either way, it is time for McConnell to step aside as leader or for other members of the GOP to realize the amount of damage this guy can do and just work around him in whatever way they can if he cannot be ousted. I am not sure when GOP leaders are elected, but McConnell’s failure to stop ObamaCare – and he could have done it – should not go unnoticed. If possible, I strongly urge the GOP to push McConnell and Cornyn out of leadership positions or, for the sake of the country and the party, they need to excuse themselves.

  • http://www.thesubstratum.com GJ Merits

    It’s all a dog-and-pony show. So put on a show, keep the troops happy, put up a fight as even symbolic fights put teeth in the quote “It’s not the dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog”. McConnell and Cornyn failed us on healthcare. The least they can do is stand tall and send out indicators to us they are willing to fight like Pit Bulls.

    Still, for them I think it is too late and they need to be replaced. We need a lion for a leader, not some puppy dog who gives up at every turn and endorses a strategy to stick it to the country for his own parties electoral gains. If you don’t know what I mean by this, check out my comment above near the top and follow the link. This is duplicity at its worst and feeds the narrative that most politicians are self-serving to the point of being the lowest part of life.

    I love Mark Twain’s quote, which offers an astute observation: “Pretend you are a member of Congress. Now pretend you are an idiot. But I repeat myself”. It’s time politicians on our side at least, took steps to lead and by their actions remove this opinion of them and replace it with something more positive. Stand on principle. Fight. Fight. Fight.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    We conservatives, collectively, have got to stop blaming “the Republicans” until each of us have done out utmost to get our Party back to 100 per cent strength at the grass roots level.

    Standing on the outside of the Party and yelling at it will not change it. Only by getting inside it, into the grass roots ranks of the Party, can we conservatives, collectively, change the Party.

    A registered Republican voter is not a “member” of the Republican Party. A registered Republican voter gets to vote in the primary and general elections. Period. Only precinct committeeman members of the Party get to, for example, elect the leadership of the Party. In my state, AZ, if a state representative or state senator position in the legislature becomes vacant due to, for example, a resignation, ONLY elected precinct committeemen (assuming there are 30 or more in that district) have the right to vote for who gets to fill the vacancy — they nominate three candidates and then the Board of Supervisors of the county select from those three. If a majority of the precinct committeemen are conservatives, guess what? Three CONSERVATIVE candidates will be selected and, no matter which one the Board selects, a CONSERVATIVE will become the new legislator.

    McConnell isn’t up for a primary battle until 2012. Cornyn until 2014. Very little the Kentucky and Texas Republicans can do to motivate them to change. But, as our Party was at half-strength at the grass roots level in the 2008 election cycle, we conservatives have a golden opportunity to show “the Republicans” like McConnell and Cornyn that we mean business. How? By INVADING the Party and filling up all those vacant PC slots.

    If only half the slots were filled in the 2008 election cycle, and they were split about 50-50 between conservatives and RINOs, if we conservatives filled up the empty slots, that ration would go to 75-25 in favor of conservatives. All of McConnell’s and Cornyn’s RINO cronies in the internal leadership elections would be GONE after the 2010 elections. Michael Steele would be GONE.

    I received in the mail and invitation from McConnell and Cornyn to become a member of the NRSC “Inner Circle” provided I send them a check for $1,000. Even if I were to do that, without being an elected precinct committeeman, that $1,000 would not make me eligible to have any power over the leadership of the Party. The only way I can have a vote is by continuing as a precinct committeeman. So, I’ll soon be getting my nomination form prepared and walk my precinct to get the ten signatures (only ten! In Ohio, one only has to get 5!) I need to get onto the ballot. This season it may even be competitive, as all 8 slots in my precinct are filled. So, who know, I might not get re-elected — but I’ll still go to my monthly meetings, help conservative candidates, etc.

    Until McConnell and Cornyn and the other “leaders” in the Republican Party (both the elected Republicans in the Congress and the elected Party leaders, like Michael Steele and the state chairmen) see a huge surge by conservatives INTO the grass roots positions of the Party itself, into the precinct committeeman slots, you will not see them change. They are professional politicians. They get this. They understand that the real way to change the Party is to change its makeup at the grass roots level. They understand that “the Party” IS DEFINED by its actual members. If the Party has a majority of conservatives in the grass roots precinct committeeman slots, then the Party will be conservative. Until that happens — until enough conservatives get to their local GOP meetings to get INTO the Party itself, you’ll see no real change.

    Think of party politics as a football game. The registered voters are in the stands, yelling at the players. No amount of yelling will actually change what the players DO. Think of the players as the elected precinct committeemen. They can affect the outcome of the ball game because they are IN the ball game. They get to elect the team leaders and captains, the folks in the bleachers do not. Want to put some fear into McConnell and Cornyn. Don’t send them $1,000. Instead, become a ball player, and give that $1,000 to deserving conservative candidates who you’ll meet at your monthly GOP meetings.

    In my humble opinion, the number one priority of every conservative Republican should be to become a “card-carrying member” of the Republican Party so you’ll be a player in the real ball game of politics — party politics — and be able to vote for the leadership of the Party. Let’s get the Party to that 75-25 ratio of conservatives to RINOs. If we do THAT, I believe we WILL change how McConnell and Cornyn act.

    Thank you.
    ColdWarrior
    No More Scozzafavas!
    Become a Republican precinct committeeman. NOW!

  • Jack_Savage

    Diversity central.

  • Jack_Savage

    Deny black children vouchers to attend private schools in Washington, D.C.

  • http://www.thesubstratum.com GJ Merits

    There are ways to get results and we did it before: http://tinyurl.com/y99rxt8.

    I am with our founders on this. Human nature is flawed. So I become a local precinct committeeman and work to get conservatives into office. In the end, what guarantee do I have they will really turn out to represent me. The problem is federal government lucre and power have far outstripped what the constitution provided for them. The problem is mainly with the federal courts and can be traced back to the Marshall Court in 1810.

    I’m all for getting conservatives elected locally and using that as a stepping stone to begin a 10th amendment movement in this country. As far as relying on them at the federal level – I really have my doubts as would anyone who reads the linked piece. Washington corrupts even the best of folks and I personally think we have waited far to long to start this process although I certainly will give anything a try.