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Moving beyond the tea party movement.

“These concerns are American and we do ourselves a disservice if we segment ourselves into anything less than heirs of our American Revolution.”

We stand at the one year anniversary of tea parties in America. Just over a year ago, in February, Rick Santelli, fired up on CNBC, predicted a national movement of protest against what was happening in Washington — something akin to the Boston Tea Party. Those protests blossomed fully on April 15, 2009, and have been going ever since.

Calling themselves tea party activists, patriots, and the like, people rallied to protest bailouts for banks, car companies, and American citizens who made dumb decisions gladly with their homes.

Since that time, the tea party movement has become both organized and fractured, caricatured and praised, supported and hated, effective and ineffective — all of the above — a force to contend with except when it isn’t.

But along the way a lot of silliness happened too. Some ambitious and some well meaning sorts got involved and decided there needed to be greater organization to have a greater impact. And groups sprouted like weeds. Groups sprouted from other groups. Like Baptist churches doing church plants, groups had arguments, fractured, and some went off and started their own Second Baptist Church of the Tea Party Movement, then the Third, then the National, then the Tax Day, then the Patriots, then the Express, but not necessarily in that order.

High dollar Republican consultants got involved. Republican politicians got involved. The birthers decided to show and gave the media a chance to claim the birthers were involved in a grand conspiracy with the Klu Klux Klan to pay no attention to the black man holding the anti-government sign so they could pretend only white people were involved, or something like that.

You get my point.

Then last week, in what everyone would have thought was a joke had it happened on April Fools Day, a bunch of tea parties, or at least one saying it was doing it for more, put out a press release announcing the birth of the National Tea Party Federation, which is not an organization, not a structure, not a new set of leaders, but an evolution of alliances of 19 tea party organizations and a handful of other groups, except for the Tea Party Patriots, which has worked overtime to be simply a volunteer group of concerned activists who neither get paid nor make money. Yeah, I have a soft spot for Tea Party Patriots living up to their ideal.

Most of us can sit back and ask one simple question: What the heck happened?

The tea party movement, one year later, is descending into a self-parody of infighting, money making, claims of national leadership, protests, unions, federations, amalgamations, etc. The groups have been so busy organizing themselves to distinguish themselves from each other that the core message is gone and media and left have been able to seize on the discord and paint a picture of the tea party movement as something other than it is and what we all know it to be — concerned Americans.

This has nothing at all to do with actual tea party activists. Let me be clear. I do not want to nor intend to slight the activists who care and show up with their hand painted signs, sometimes risking violence against themselves by the left and ridicule by the media.

But I have a simple message for them all — it is time to stop calling yourselves tea party activists and start calling yourselves concerned Americans.

The issues that incite, enrage, and organize the men and women of this nation to leave their jobs to go protest the size, scope, and direction of government are American concerns. The state of the nation, the growth of government, moving from creeping socialism to a full sprint to socialism — these are concerns shared across the board.

But now that these tea party groups are out there, there is infighting, there is evolution without organization but some organizing, etc. the activists and the message are getting drowned out by the leadership. And this remains a leaderless movement of concerned Americans who have united with one voice and common concerns.

Having leaders in a leaderless movement creates problems. That is one reason I’ve liked the Tea Party Patriots. They’ve been more facilitators than leaders. But picking one group above the others or setting them apart from each other then lets the horde of the leaderless leaders claim some sort of favoritism or preference, so I choose to paint with a broad brush.

We have reached a point where the tea party movement will either go forward in greater organization or it will not. As one of those people who turned out for the initial protests, the later protests, flew around the country speaking at rallies, etc. I would like to say goodbye.

I hope the activists on the street will leave with me. It is not that we are leaving the tea party movement, but rather we choose to assert ourselves in the movements of America and focus not as tea party activists, but as concerned Americans troubled by the direction of the country. As the organizations of the tea party movement evolve into a federation, we activists choose to evolve into activists in the political process in our municipalities, counties, states, and nation.

So I will not be turning out to protest this tax day. Instead, I am going to put down my protest sign and pick up my campaign sign for Marco Rubio, Marlin Stutzman, Ken Buck, Pat Toomey, Mike Lee, Chuck DeVore, Pam Gorman, Tom Graves, Sean Duffy, Angela Hicks, Nikki Haley, Karen Handel, and others. I’m going to focus not on protesting, but on actually changing the country through finding, fielding, supporting, funding, volunteering for, and praying for good men and women who share my very American concerns. I am going to focus on my local government, making sure my local leaders live up to my expectations; likewise at the same at the state and federal level too.

I am going to write letters to the editor, call radio shows, talk to my friends and family, and promote the good people. If you aren’t sure what you can or should do — after Thursday, check out http://summit.americanmajority.org. Find a post-party summit close to you and go to it.

The Bible tells Christians to “put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.” Concerns Americans must also put on armor, though not of God, but of liberty. And they must learn both the weapons of the fight and skills and tactics of waging war for freedom.

We have moved beyond the time to protest.

After you have been to your tax day tea party protest on Thursday, and please don’t view me as discouraging you from one last big hurrah, I hope you’ll leave the tea party protests behind and engage in the process. There is a difference between the two words me must understand and use to direct our focus.

These concerns the tea party protestors raise are American and we do ourselves a disservice if we segment ourselves into anything less than heirs of our American Revolution.

COMMENTS

  • swamphermit

    must be a slow day.

  • azaeroprof

    I plan to do both. I will continue to show up and protest at any Tea Party events, but I also am involved in the party structure and will continue to work on campaigns for the “good guys” and “gals”. Both have their own goals and objectives with some overlap.

  • http://glenlasbury.wordpress.com rreaganfan

    Erick, thanks for articulating what has been nibbling at the corners of my mind for some time now, but which I haven’t taken the time to think through.

    I’m not sure I will completely absent myself from protests; I see some importance, for instance, in the March to Washington on 9/12. But by and large, yes. At some point, the focus must shift from protest to activism, from insistence on across-the-board perfection and conformity to tangible support (i.e., GOTV efforts) for conservative candidates who can win.

  • cwilson

    You really gave Erick the what-for, didn’t you?

  • http://sidburgess.com sidburgess

    Spoken like the true leader you are Erick. Well done. I expect many to follow you to victory in campaign after campaign.

  • rlstarnes

    You are probably going to catch hell for this but I completely agree. Great advice once again, thanks Erick

  • http://www.bejohngalt.com Justrand

    we need numbers in the streets and at the rallies…and folks like me are going DESPITE the nonsense.

    the growing pains of the Tea Party “movement” has NOT stopped the GrassRoots appeal. But is has provided some structure (and cost sharing) of staging these!

    I will be in Sacramento on Thursday. I truly ensourage everyone to attend one somewhere…or at least stand on a street corner with a sign. But GET OUT THERE!

  • http://www.bejohngalt.com Justrand

    HuffPo, Kos, DU…they ALL think we should skip the Tea Parties.

    I disagree.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    Relax, I’m not going to ban you for it; but can the sarcasm in the future.

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    I think you are overreacting here. Sid and I are friends and have been chatting privately about this very topic for a while.

    Thanks Sid. Much appreciated.

  • southernilpat

    But I agree that people should probably do both. The protest needs to stay visible to encourage others to get involved. Those who are further along the path to activism can use the protest events to encourage others who are just getting started. Seems like a great venue to educate people in things like the Precinct Committeeman Project.

  • http://www.bejohngalt.com Justrand

    for the first time regular folks are taking to the streets…and attending rallies.

    we are NOT good at this, and so yes, there have been and will be fractures and problems.

    but the Tea Party effort IS true GrassRoots…and folks like me attend them without ANY membership or other involvement. I contributed $50 to the Sacramento folks because they need money to schedule these things. And I bought a T-shirt at another one for the same reason.

    But millions of us go for one reason: to SWELL THE NUMBERS…and thus get attention to the anger and frustration of Americans!

    The media is DYING to ignore us…and LOVES IT when people recommend skipping them…like Erick did in his post.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    They will assure you that Erick is wrong and you shouldn’t lift a finger to defeat the people who passed Obamacare, raised your taxes, bailed out the UAW, and submit to foreign leaders.

    They’ll tell you to tea party while America burns.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    My bad.

  • http://www.bejohngalt.com Justrand

    …and agree that skipping the Tea Party rallies, and quieting down is the best way to go.

    and what the heck does THIS mean: “They?ll tell you to tea party while America burns” ??????????

    the people at these rallies, like me, are incredibly committed to restoring this country.

    EVERY time someone recommends quieting down, staying home, avoiding rallies and such, I can feel my radar go up!

    Every time.

  • swamphermit

    Erick just doesn’t get it. Is that better?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    They’ll tell you that milling around waving signs is the way to go.

    They’ll tell you to be committed to anything at all but winning elections.

  • rcyclist

    …. Erick “we” were already doers within “the movement.” Asking us to leave the movement, whatever the name is, doesn’t change anything. What will you and I and others like us do any differently? Nothing.
    We still need to have strong numbers show up for events like this. So where will the “new” movement or group form and what will it’s name be? It doesn’t matter, because the same damn thing will happen regardless of the name. The left is scared of this movement and trying to fractionalize it even more is not the answer. He wants to work within the framework of the GOP to make it more conservative, but he won’t work with the Tea Party Patriots to make it the best and most effective “sect” in the Tea Party Movement.

    Just my two cents…

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    Please do go.

    But afterwards, then what? Protesting only gets you so far.

  • streiff

    if you’d simply make it’s acquaintance.

    Re-read the post.

    Find where it recommends staying home and I’ll kiss your butt at high noon and give you an hour to draw a crowd.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    The time is now to have big numbers show up to nominate good conservatives in the primaries, and then to defeat bad Democrats in November.

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    The left should be scared of a large gathering of concerned Americans. As long as we work within some pre-defined tea party movement framework, we can be marginalized.

    Go to the protests, but then get involved locally and nationally as an American, not as a tea party activist.

  • rcyclist

    that is where the movement can help. The Houston Tea Party on Thursday will be helping to facilitate just that. Teach the attendees how to get involved beyond meeting and holding up a sign.

  • Achance

    it gives you a warm feeling and nobody notices. The people you’re opposing couldn’t care less; you weren’t going to vote for them anyway. Democrat/liberal protesters may have driven LBJ, a Democrat, from office, but Democrat/liberal protesters in much larger numbers had about zero effect on Nixon’s policies. Republican and moderate, leaning R, voters who were unhappy about their sons getting “greetings and salutations” and paying the taxes for an increasingly unpopular war are what drove Nixon’s policies.

    The Tea Party protests likewise are having some effect on Republcan policies and practices because at least some of those protesting are a Republican constituency. The real damage is done when birthers and Ronulans are seen to dominate rallys and that gives Republican officeholders an excuse, maybe even a reason, to ignore the Tea Partiers the same way the Democrats do.

    If you want a warm feeling, singing songs and carrying signs will give you one. If you actually want to do something for the Country, go to work for the Republican Party, for a Republican candidate, or run for office yourself.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.comandhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

    While what Erick is saying about the TP movement is spot on regarding its devolution into mini-tribes and tribal warfare, it would be a mistake not to continue to show up and be loud in protestation of policies that are bankrupting this country, if for only the following reasons:

    1. The Left will believe (and claim ) the TP movement is what they’ve claimed all along — astroturf. While others will say, so what? It is the TP movement, along with the push from other grassroots groups (like here on RedState) that gotten McDonnell, Christie and Brown elected and, importantly, has struck fear in the hearts of the Left.

    2. Mass rallies do work. The Left has built itself on the attention-grabbing rallies, and it continues to engage in them . An example will be the AFL-CIO protesting Wall St. in the next couple of weeks.

    3. The TP rallies give an outlet (and voice) to many who feel bolstered and (I hate this term) “empowered” by being in the company of fellow patriots at the rallies. To discontinue them will be to demoralize and undercut the very people who are needed to stay loud and proud in November.

    Given all of the problems with the Tea Party movement, its fractious nature, now is not the time to discourage people from being involved in them.

    Get through November, then either abandon the TP concept or organize it to make it even more effective….But abandonment is the wrong answer at the wrong time.

  • http://www.bejohngalt.com Justrand

    “I hope the activists on the street will leave with me.”

    Erick has INFLUENCE…and deservedly so. But it doesn’t mean he’s always right…and he’s not in this case, IMHO.

    I contribute to specific candidates, run a blog of my own, AND attend rallies like Tea Parties.

    The Tea Party movement IS STILL GrassRoots..and those doing their best to try and use it for their own ends will ultimately be unsuccessful!

  • http://www.bejohngalt.com Justrand

    “If the streets are quiet, the Left will have won…”

    because EVERY media outlet will immediately begin claiming:
    “Tea Party was a flash in the pan…Americans quietly accept Democrat agenda”

    or a variation of that!!

  • http://www.criterionchemical.com Chemical Sam

    I wrote previously here:

    http://www.redstate.com/chemical_sam/2010/03/26/300-the-tea-party-meeting-in-morristown-nj/

    about what appeared/appears to be a huge wave a dissatisfaction with the federal government in general in the week after the National Health Care Act [read: Obamacare] was passed. Those people are the tip of the iceberg and are not going away.

    I’m sorry to say I am taking the rare opportunity to disagree with Erick. He should be fostering attendance and organization of the TEA party movement in favor of the Conservative and Constitutionalists lines, and THEN introducing them to the available conservative candidates in the Republican party that can best achieve those goals. Palin and Bachmann are doing just that and God bless them for it.

    A lackluster showing on April 15th would only serve Obama, Democrats, and the narrative on the Left about “peaking” and waning anger.

    It’s nice to play down the expectations, but there’s going to be hell to pay either way for what the Democrats have done to this country however the Conservative movements organize this time. Voters are furious and feel existentially threatened.

    They feel violated, frankly, because the Obama Administration and a Democratic Congress sodomized the People with a 2700 page monstrosity called Obamacare, and then told them that they would come around to liking it after a while.

    I’ll be the one standing among them with a proverbial horsewhip at the ready.

  • http://www.criterionchemical.com Chemical Sam

    n/t

  • streiff

    on the internet?

    More to the point, I don’t like your comments because nothing so far as convinced me that you have enough intelligence or insight to be a meaningful commenter here. I was on the verge of banning you outright over the numbskullery you posted above.

    Want to revise and extend your comments or do you want to leave? It is pretty much up to you as it takes me less time to get rid of you and your comments than it does to write a comment.

  • The_Gadfly

    Tea Party activists can walk and chew gum at the same time. It is a matter of both/and, not either/or. They need to support candidates for election who can and will change the country AND they need to keep protesting and meeting. They need to meet to recharge their batteries, be exposed to new ideas, and maybe even recruit new people to the cause. The camaraderie that accompanies such meetings is difficult to duplicate in any other situation.

    Anyone who has grown an organization from scratch knows there are going to be growing pains along the way. These are those growing pains. Now is not the time to walk away, but to man-up (ladies too, I’ve known quite a few who man-up better than men) and keep at it.

    As for the Lame Stream Echo chamber, ignore them. They will be irrelevant when we are done with them.

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    The left should get complacent as we are all out busy as bees plotting the conservative counter-revolution. They’ll never know what hit them.

    But as long as we are plowing resources into tax day protests, we are dropping the ball in more important areas.

  • http://www.criterionchemical.com Chemical Sam

    It’s what I’ve been doing everywhere I go, and it’s working with a lot of people.

    Then we and everyone we’ve persuaded are going to vote against the Democrats.

    Everyone who’s showed up to a TEA Party, ever, can’t wait to exercise their voting power to thwart Obama and the Democratic Congress.

    Everyone who helped put McDonnell, Brown, and Christie in their governor’s seats in VA, MA, and NJ of all places, aren’t thinking any other way when it comes to their congressmen. They’ve already shown that there are enough votes-against in some of the bluest states. And they aren’t seeing anyone smarten up yet, so they’re going to hit them harder still this time.

  • zollistar

    And I’m doing both. Indeed, I’m even a volunteer marshal for the New York City Tea Party event on Thursday. But I also volunteer for specific candidates, write my letters and e-mails, make phone calls and even…make blog comments! :

  • earlgrey

    I want to encourage people to find a way to get involved and vote in EVERY election and remind them that once someone is elected to local office (even if it is a small position) they now have a platform upon which to launch campaigns for higher office.

    The question I have for you Erick is how do we keep the activists engaged after the tea party without some kind of local tea party structure? Plus, there is some appeal in protesting so that you can surround yourselves with people of like minds and know that you are not alone. Do we want to abondon that entirely?

  • rcyclist

    Well said.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.comandhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

    to not dropping the ball on the big prize. But people should be encouraged to do both.

    In large part, the TP movement is flawed (and has been) from the outset as it does a very good job espousing what it is against, but not what it is for. [In that regard, the Left does a much better job at using mass rallies with an agenda already in hand.]

    However, as this was a mostly spontaneous movement created out of anger, it’s understandable that it has been as disjointed as it is.

    As a point of reference, I’ve attended one meeting (not rally, but meeting) and left with the feeling that ‘these people have no idea what they’re up against. However, in that meeting many people had talked about what they were doing politically on the local and state level. They are involved.

    My only disagreement with your analysis is that it is too close to November to show signs that Americans are not upset with DC.

    The Left is scared. The union bosses are scared (which is why Hoffa and Trumka a peeing all over themselves to try to deflect the anger back to Wall Street).

    Dems need to know that the war cries coming from somewhere in the woods are the masses coming for their scalps.

    They cannot and should not breathe a moment peacefully from now until November.

  • renny

    NJ tea parties are sponsoring activist seminars like voter registration and poll sitting.’

    Why would anyone think we can’t do both?

    The numbers in the streets are IMPORTANT because the Left has thought it OWNED the streets since the 1800s. One reason it is dazed and confused is the Left has never seen the numbers of retired persons, middle-aged business types, “just housewives,” and their ordinary next door neighbor marching. It is disorienting and disabling to libs. We have to keep putting the numbers out there to belie the MSM narrative that only nuts and homophobes are tea partiers.

    And I have to ask–why would homophobes be tea partiers? Where do they get this nonsense from?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    That’s essential the Tea party helping itself move on.

    That’s great!

  • janis
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  • Hugh

    Tea Parties was the fact that it was a ground swell movement without any real organization. A year later we seem to want to organize it to make it “better”. That is nice but will not work in defeating the Democrats in November. The only organization that has a chance to do that is the Republican party. Like I say “It ain’t much baby, but thats all we got”. I love the Tea Party movement. It has energized me to become active in the Republican party. I will support candidates that are Tea Party types (true conservatives) on a local level and I will work to put them in office. I hope all will join me.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.comandhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

    After 100+ years, they have victory within their sights and they will not back down to a bunch of “racist homophobes” (or whatever other name they use).

    This is a battle for the Life or the Death of this country…and it may be one of the last battles.

    To tell the army to not fight with everything they’ve got is wrong, because the other side doesn’t play fair and will not rest until this country is destroyed.

    Numbers absolutely mean something in this fight because the more that are out there, the more the Left knows that there are many Americans who disagree with being served up as chattel.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.comandhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport
  • http://www.criterionchemical.com Chemical Sam

    If people don’t expand on what was a solid albeit relatively unorganized movement this time last year, liberals and liberal media are going to bray about how ineffective we are. And they will be right.

    If the TEA party events turn out huge numbers, the silence on the Left will be deafening. Voters everywhere will get the news one way or another.

    Even my 70 year old parents-in-law are going to the Big One in D.C. There are a lot more unemployed people out there too. I expect Morristown, NJ will exceed last years’ number of 1500, easily. It that happens, it will be true everywhere else too.

    And the people who attend those meetings are going to smell blood in the water. And act on it at the voting booth in November.

  • http://www.andrewiandodge.com Lagwolf

    Notice you get togethers are all over the country but you completely forget the North East. Boston is not the North East and its a hell of a long way for most people.

    How about having it in New Hampshire or Maine somewhere nearer for those of us suffering under socialist leadership.

    On the subject of the post: its silly. People are capable of attending tea parties and other stuff. The “infighting” you speak of is no such thing. A bunch of Republican operatives are trying every way they can to take over the movement and deliver it to Steele & Co. The Federation is just another attempt at this.

    The tea party movement is perfectly fine in its non-partisan, decentralised and leaderless form. Its fun to watch the right trashing the tea party movement now.

  • http://www.bejohngalt.com Justrand

    “More to the point, I don?t like your comments because nothing so far as convinced me that you have enough intelligence or insight to be a meaningful commenter here. I was on the verge of banning you outright over the numbskullery you posted above. ”

    (a) I’m not the one that went off the rails saying: “I?ll kiss your butt at high noon”
    (b) my comments have NOT been personal…but intended to encourage attendance at rallies
    (c) are you the official “banner” of people? Wow.

    if this was not aimed at me then ignore the above. if it WAS aimed at me then you need to read thru my posts and lay off the caffeine

  • Bill S

    I have been saying this for months. Your title says it all.

  • littlehouse18

    is important, and these rallies do this very well. We need them from time to time – it’s good for the psyche, and energizes our efforts. For conservatives, it is all too easy to feel discouraged under this current administration/Congress/media climate.

    The tea parties also keep the movement and its concerns in the public eye. Sadly, the electorate is all too prone to ‘go along with the crowd’, and if we are not publicly visible, our principles will not be in the public consciousness. And the more ordinary Americans the public sees, the more will join in rescuing our country.

    The tea parties, particularly the local ones, also serve to educate their members on issues, history, tactics, and so forth in local non-rally meetings.

    So yes, I of course wholeheartedly agree about working to get candidates elected, but our visibility is important to that effort.

  • Common_Cents

    Consider it potential energy that can be directed in an even more proactive, coordinated direction to be much more effective.

    This isn’t and either or situation. Organic protesting and tea party movement is very positive. Like 1st gear in a car it will only get you so far so fast, but its time to keep the momentum going into 2nd, 3rd, 4th, gears.

    Encourage protesting, its free publicity. But we need to have a plan in place to channel all that energy.

    A company needs some good marketing and exposure but that doesnt get them deals, they have to drum up some excitement(protesting) and follow through to close the deal!

  • Common_Cents

    That makes no sense to me at all.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    to their local GOP committee meeting where they can volunteer to become “card carrying members” of the Republican Party.

    The post Modernist Democrats in the House, Senate and White House could care less about the protests — they have the one thing they need — political power. They achieved that political power through the ballot box. We conservatives now need to encourage and educate the tea partiers to INVADE and take over the Republican Party so we can take back our government through the ballot box.

    As Erick stated, we need to be involved not in political protests, but in the political PROCESS. The real ball game of politics is played at Party committee meetings. By Party precinct committeemen. Who get to elect the Party leadership. And who are in the BEST position to vet the primary candidates and then organize get-out-the-vote efforts house-to-house. The tea partiers will become politically RELEVANT when they UNITE indoors at their respective local Republican Party committee meetings. Imagine if all the time, money and energy that has been expended for outdoor protests had been channeled in the first instance into the Republican Party?

    We conservatives now need to UNITE INSIDE the Republican Party so we can turn it into a conservative political POWERHOUSE — rather than the ideologically split, HALF-STRENGTH political organization it was in the 2008 election cycle. The Party is there for the taking, as HALF the PC slots were vacant after the 2008 elections.

    Just good, old-fashioned basic American civics is what we need. Actual participation by conservatives in the REAL political process — party politics — at Party meetings, as precinct committeemen. Conservatives carrying out their civic duty INSIDE a political Party. That’s where the real ball game of politics is played. And we conservatives have not been on that ball field in sufficient numbers for too long. (I’m guilty as charged — I didn’t start attending my local Republican Party committee meetings until 2007.)

    I will be at the Tempe Diablo Stadium at the Americans for Prosperity Tax Day Tea Party at a table with other PCs with signs directing the attendees to our table and handing out flyers — not to protest, but to RECRUIT the conservatives who will be there to become Republican Party precinct committeemen so they can “really do something.” In Maricopa County, about 45 per cent of our statutory precinct committeeman slots (about 3,000) still are vacant although we’ve got over 700,000 registered Republicans in the county. Is that pathetic? Let me help you: YES.

    Pray. Recruit. Repeat.

    Thank you.
    ColdWarrior
    Conservatives of the U.S., UNITE! Become Republican precinct committeemen and CHANGE the world! NOW!

  • cwilson

    instead of assertions and similes would be helpful. What specifically do you disagree with? Why exactly is this a “terrible” post?

    swamp, you’ve been here for almost a year; you know this isn’t the D**** K**. We do discussion and reasoned argument around here.

  • http://www.bejohngalt.com Justrand

    That is why I attend and support these.

    Yes, do all the political things too…I do.

    But more and more folks are finally standing up and speaking up. The silent majority is getting loud…and it is about time.

    I naturally resist and reject calls to work “quietly” again. Loud is working just fine for now! :)

  • streiff

    I told you reading comprehension had a lot of benefits but you couldn’t be bothered.

  • jenniferjmilleresq

    I know this is overly simplistic but tell me how much, if at all, this analogy is useful and the point at which it breaks down: the Sons of Liberty were like the Tea Party. Colonial representatives were like the conservative candidates.

    The British Crown, in its oppressive reach was like all Democrats and Republican establishment types (iwhich includes most of our current elected officials, in my opinion). Obviously the distinction is we have a representative form of government and are not under colonial rule.

    I am also sure that many of the Sons of Liberty’s actions (like the Tea Party’s) would have been repudiated and disdained by polite intellectuals of the day (like the mainstream media) and for good reason. I know there was a lot of civil disobedience there which is absolutely not the case with the Tea Party.

    I guess my feeling is that it served its purpose and there was a lot of overlap with the Sons of Liberty and the Minutemen and then George Washington’s forces, which are like precinct committemen and bloggers and those of us who facebook and twitter and email our friends and family. I don’t know if John Adams and the other colonial representatives lent their official endorsement to the Sons of Liberty, but it was helpful especially at the outset.

    Anyone with a better recollection of the particulars please correct and refine this if it has any usefulness.

  • Tbone

    THIS is sarcasm. :-)

  • Common_Cents

    Many of the tea partiers are hard working people that just get a sense that things aren’t right, they don’t know the extent of what’s happening.

    They are relieved to see that others think like they do. They have been afraid to voice their opinion as they have been surrounded by vocal PC radicals ridiculing anything Rep or conservative.

    Tea parties are a good initial way to show people there are many others out there like them. It sucks to be a lone wolf warrior.

    This movement shows the terrible job conservative/Republican leadership has done in reaching out to grow a solid base. New leadership is needed to show the rest of the people what exactly they can do to get involved. (CW precinct chair drive is a great example).

    Think of tea partiers as eager volunteers that know something is wrong, show up to a protest, and are asking how can I help?

    Conservative leaders should have a plan of how to harness and direct this energy, not put them down for eagerly showing up to protest.

  • JadedByPolitics

    the most brilliant move because the FACTS are that they are Americans who have NOT gotten their voices heard individually in a LONG TIME! I recognize who these people are because they are ME. I say show up protest and then become part of the PROCESS which is taking over the GOP from the inside/out and WRENCHING it back to its Conservative roots.

    btw the very 1st thing you can do is become part of the Committeeman/woman Project and be the people who DECIDE which Conservatives are on the ticket in 2012. WE can no longer sit back and let the RINOish GOP have their way with OUR Country!

  • Hugh

    and call it the November Ballot Box Party.

  • Tbone

    the street protests re-inforce our tribal instincts of “community” and makes a statement to non-believers.

    Just as going to church is only part of living a Christian life, attending a tea party must only be part of conservative activism. However, it is a very public statement of committment and can encourage others to join and become activists.

  • dariencrow

    Hello Erick… long time reader, first time poster.

    I can’t say that I like this discussion topic. It sounds like you want to leave the Tea Party movement because it’s just getting too hot for you to handle. What did you expect? Whenever a movement begins to get noticed there will be all kinds of people that will come out of the woods to take control, make money, mock, or just jump on the coat-tails to benefit from the hard work of all those that started it.

    I’m proud to say I was a Tea Party original. My wife and I were Tea Partiers before it was cool. We were out there in front of our post office with a Don’t Tread on Me flag when there were only 50 of us in Las Vegas last year. We traveled to DC on 9-12. It was amazing.

    Instead of walking out on us with only your support for those few chosen candidates that you want to prop up all the time… why don’t you stand with us and fight?

    Andrew Breitbart has taken it upon himself to use his media savvy to protect us and expose those that wish to distort and destroy what we have all worked so hard to acheive. So rethink this course you have chosen to take. We deserve better from you and I never saw you as pulling some Stupak move to play people for attention and leave when the going gets rough. Just my opinioin sir.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.comandhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

    need to be injected with a good dose of Alinskyism, as in make them fun.

    If people are only going to “protest” it will get old fast…There needs to be a constant energy that is sustainable in protesting. So, there has to be something to make it interesting to both the participants and the news.

    Examples only:

    Get a big screen with clips of BHO and his promises…pause between each one and have the crowd chant “You lie!”

    Get some street theater going (on stage)…Put Obama on a throne with Pelosi and Reid as his jesters.

    Get young people (kids) to put on ‘old people’s clothes’ and gray beards to demonstrate how old they’ll be when the Obama debt is paid off.

    Burn a communist flag…

    Use a visual of the Constitution in shreds…

    There are a myriad of things to use to keep the participants (and news) interested.

    From Uncle Saul’s writings:

    5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”

    6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”

    7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time….”

    8. “Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.”

    10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.”

    12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”

    13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and ‘frozen.’…

  • Achance

    My political principals would always be very upset by union protests because the union tactic of choice is to personalize everything. So, there’d be a few dozen or hundred of the usual suspects out there calling the Governor, or Commissioner, or some or another Legislator nasty names; sent ‘em right out through the overhead because it was so personal. I haven’t seem much evidence of the Ds taking this very personally and they did a pretty good job of putting on an Alinsky move with the racists remarks and spitting thing; we here may know they’re lying but the heathen masses that only get network news think those nasty Tea Partiers spit on a Black Congressman and called him racists names. Every gathering gives them an opportunity to do stuff like that and they have a complicit media to help them. I’m not saying that’s a reason not to do it, but you need a lot of discipline to avoid doing more good for the bad guys than you do for yourself.

    I never cared except to try to smooth my principals’ feelings. I could look at the group and name most of them and tell you what grievances they had in my files. In normal times unions are the ultimate astroturf, they’re 99 – 1% organizations. 99% of a union’s support comes from 1% of its members and fee payers. My biggest unit had about 8500 members statewide. They couldn’t put 1000 people in the street statewide if their very life depended on it. A typical crowd in front of the capitol in Juneau might be 150 and a lot of them would be paid staff of AFSCME and the other unions with offices in town. I just did my best to have everyone ignore them unless somebody behaved really badly and even then we wouldn’t call the cops and give them the attention they wanted. We’d just deal with it administratively.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.comandhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

    Mass protesting is a visual form., a way of keeping supporters motivated and throwing the opposition off balance. That is all.

    People do need to engage in action other than protesting, but keep the protesting going…just change it up (see post below).

  • Praying

    You hated it! I have to agree with Erick on this one, though. I was one of the co-chairs of the Knoxville Tax Day Tea Party (2009). I decided that while protest was great for consciousness raising, and not everyone was there yet, I was ready to move on, to get entrenched, to actively support candidates, and e even to run for office myself (state executive committeewoman – not a BFD office, but an important first step). Thursday will be interesting. The left expects everyone to be out on the streets, and they are ready – willing – and able to sabotage the effort. We have to be just as adept at changing our MO as they are – and I agree with Erick that for many of us, the time is now. With limited resources (blame it on the economy?) we have more important things to do – like supporting good, solid conservatives, holding those currently in office accountable, and educating our friends and neighbors. Maybe going to a protest is the easierst way to do the last item – in which case, by all means, go, but we’ve become too predictable and the left will use it to their advantage. So thank you, Erick, for putting into words the feeling I’ve had inside for the past several months. I appreciate you!

  • marie_a

    that’s what fueled the tea party movement to grow, the growing alarm over misused taxes and other resources to over regulate citizens.

    This hot beverage movement pulled in many individuals who were outside politics, neither elephant or donkey or rhinoceros. Private folks are now in the public fray. And many will bring fresh resources, conservative candidates, new ideas, yes, even their monies into the arena of aged activism, that Grand Old Party.

    If our cause is right, by faith we will gain what we need in order to do what we must to win in November.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.comandhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

    his reasoning behind what is wrong with the TP movement is correct.

    Not knowing Erick personally, but reading a lot of his posts and others here on RS, he is not urging people to get out because it’s “too hot.”

    While the TP movement is flawed now is not the time to abandon it…especially before November.

    After November, then something else may emerge or the TP movement may correct itself.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    You’re IN the Party. You’re running for leadership positions IN the Party. I would love to see a Diary by you giving a concise explanation of how you went from “tea partying” to “partying” inside a political party — how you went from political protest to political PROCESS.

    Thanks again for all you are DOING in the real ball game of politics.

    ColdWarrior
    Conservatives of the U.S., UNITE! Become Republican precinct committeemen and CHANGE the Party and the world! NOW!

  • SoulEspresso

    Erick seems to be concerned that the Tea Party Movement is trying to make *itself* into something. If that’s all that’s going to happen, then yes, they are a waste of time.

    Rather than spending time and energy trying to organize it, IOW, that same set of resources can be used within the individual Tea Parties to support and elect candidates.

    The gatherings themselves are still good for 1) the morale of small-government types and 2) making the heads of lefties explode (intimidation). They try to pooh-pooh it as a flash-in-the-pan or fringe racist homophobia or something, but they’re secretly pooh-pooh-ing somewhere else. They know they’re going to get shellacked in the fall. That leads to 3) the sense of momentum.

    But on that note, the morale and the intimidation are not nearly as important as getting small-government candidates elected in November. That should be the point of every gathering from now on, Tea Party or not.

  • mrbigw

    Sorry
    but i have to disagree with you on this. YOU should be at every TEA PARTY event you can get to,with a smile on your face, a song in your heart, and a million flyer’s for the local conservative

    Telling the people to abandon the party and move toward helping the republican party only makes you sound like a operative for that party.

    People are done with voting by party only. I think alot of mouthpieces for both parties are gonna be shocked in november. A local TEA PARTY will have more of an effect then any national one could hope for, Why not help them by giving the candidates you believe in more exposure ??

    W

  • Ben Howe

    I certainly hate how discussing the structure of the Tea Party has become the primary topic for the “leaders” of the movement rather than the actual objectives that the protestors are showing up for.

    I think however that it is possible and advisable to do both and for one specific reason: The Media. Without public demonstrations taking place with angry signs the media is free to shape the debate again as they did under Bush. We need the protests in order to contradict the claims by the media of irrelevancy. And for the MSM components that don’t ignore but instead impugn, they create the much needed frustration from the marginalized that provokes the average guy into going to the polls.

    This shouldn’t detract at all from your very important message of taking up the OTHER signs to campaign on the behalf of honorable candidates. But I must disagree that now is the time to stop the Tea Party protests. Once we win in November, I’m on board with you completely. Until then, we must be a thorn in their side visually (protests), prophetically (campaign fund raisers) & in practice (elections).

    Once the elections have come and gone, THEN it’s time to put down the protest signs and get to work. Just my opinion.

  • snowshooze

    Other than the concerned citizens.
    I have discovered a couple groups locally and am trying to help keep the passion alive.
    That means going to the events, flipping burgers and meeting folks.
    The Tea Party is great as there IS no one leader, no target, no major organization. We cannot be herded, bought or lead. I can’t lead it or speak for it.
    Where in recent history have we concerned citizens ever been able to attract this level of attention?
    I used to think I was on of just a few that wanted to try to save this country from certain ruin, and I commend everyone who have worked so hard and made the personal sacrifice of their time, money and energy to bring us together.
    Organization is not what the Tea Party needs, I hope it continues to gather interest and bring concerned Americans together just as it has. It is an unusual collaboration.
    Our strength is in out independence.
    The whole point is that we are held together only by our mutual concerns. Nothing else, not a name, not a leader, It’s just us.
    We do not need a new GOP or RNC, nor do we want one.
    Those organizations have turned into self-serving bureaucracies.
    It is that which we must avoid.
    This is how I see it, and I hope it continues.

  • mich22

    but I’ll be carrying a Jim Rutledge for US Senate (Maryland, running for Mikulski’s seat) sign this time. Erick is right – last year it was great to focus on the founding principles that we Americans hold dear, but this year it’s not good enough. Perhaps our greatest blessing as Americans is the right to choose our representatives in government, and we must own that and fight for good representation at the ballot box in Nov and well beforehand with our cash donations, volunteerism, etc. If you don’t get behind a Constitution-respecting, freedom,-loving candidate right now, with whatever you are able to give to their campaign, than you really are doing nothing of consequence – you are only playing patriot, in my humble opinion.

  • NoDoze

    Use truth in a graphic way, not just in words. Do parody to ridicule the ridiculous. Laugh at Socialist/Progressives until they begin to pay attention.

    However, Eric’s point is valid. Save some of our resources to actually get specific candidates elected. Generalities will only go so far.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.comandhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

    [...proverbially speaking of course.] Alaska is a long way from the desert of the SouthWest.

    I suppose the reason I am so vehemently against dropping the TP movement is because of the training from the other side.

    Don’t think the Left isn’t bothered by it. They are…which is why they are going to such extremes to demonize the TP movement. They cannot stand having their tactics used against them..

    The basic screed of these people is a feeling of inferiority. It is one of being the constant underdog and always having superior (rich, corporate bastards, or “management”) people doing something “to” them.

    This is why, so often, they act like bullies. Now, the question then becomes, what do you do with bullies?

    You either cower in fear or you bloody their nose. The TP movement (along with the VA, NJ and MA wins) has bloodied their noses and now they are afraid.

    Now, the problem is, they have adjusted…Which means the TP movement needs to adjust as well and change tactics. (See post below.) Throwing hands up and saying the fight is over while we get ready for November will only allow them to revert back to bullying or claim (for the rest of the kids on the playground) that they won (through the MSM).

    The problem, Art, is (as you stated above), you have principles…The other side has none. For them, it has always been ‘the ends justify the means.’

    And, ultimately, this realization is why I left.

    The biggest thing tea partiers need to do at rallies, as you referenced behavior, is have a lot of video cameras AND try to embed as many journalists in the field as possible.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    We have finite time to spend. Our side has families and jobs.

    We can spend it organizing in Tea Party Group #324, or we can spend it organizing in the Republican party.

    Prove me wrong if you wish, but it’s always the way of things.

  • jackbenimble

    How quick we forget! I seem to remember that the Tea Party played a critical role in the game changing victory of Scott Brown. It was arguably targeting by the Tea Party movement that caused Bart Stupak to resign just last week. The Tea Party movement just staged a major rally against Harry Reid. The Democrats are crapping down their pants legs and desperate to discredit them. What’s not to like?

    The Tea Parties are the best thing that has happened to the conservative movement since Ronald Reagan. At our best and strongest we have never had activists motivated enough to turn out in the streets in large numbers. I can’t imagine a savvy political strategist thinking that this kind of activism on behalf of our agenda was anything but a good thing. With all due respect (and I have considerable respect for Eric), why in the world would you discourage it?

    Yes, agreed that the activities at the top of the various Tea Parties have been fractious, unseemly, distracting and maybe even disgusting. That puts them about on par with the activities by Michael Steele at the top of the Republican Party but perhaps with a tad less perversion and waste.

    So what!?! These same people who are struggling for power at the top are the ones that are organizing and motivating the grass roots to our tremendous advantage. In my humble opinion, they are doing a lot more at this point in time to advance the conservative agenda then is being done by the Republican Party structure which is frankly not doing anything impressive.

    I personally think that the problems we are seeing at the top of the Tea Party are the same that would manifest themselves at any movement (I won’t call it an organization) that grew spontaneously from the bottom up to such a huge size in such an amazingly short period. The problems are unfortunate but they are not doing much harm and barely anybody but the most politically aware are paying attention to them. That rapid viral could only happen if there was a perceived ideological vacuum. Apparently the American people found that none of the existing political parties represented their fiscally conservative values in a meaningful and BELIEVABLE way.

    The time for protest will be over after Republicans have regained power and AFTER they have shown that this time they plan to govern by the same principles they that they run on to get elected. Given that the purge of Republican leadership that I thought was necessary never happened, I remain deeply suspicious that they have had a true epiphany and returned to the conservative light. Until they prove it, I say, “Lets Party!”. Even then, if the Republicans actually regain some majorities and actually have the intent to govern by conservative principles, they will need the Tea Partiers in the street giving them visible strength to help them pass an agenda that looks something like the Paul Ryan plan.

  • jenniferjmilleresq

    There is a natural progression from protests to to actual fighting. I think that although there was overlap, many of the Sons of Liberty left for war and if Tea Partiers were to act accordinlgy, they’d become precinct committeemen. The gauntlet is already down (Obamacare and every other piece of legislation this year in our precipitous nosedive to socialism. I’m seeing Erick’s point that there is a season for everything, and about now is the time to pivot from a major focus on speech to focus on action.

  • LisaDe

    but then I read through all the comments and came to the conclusion that Eric is 100% right. I have never attended a party, I am not the “protester” type, and I know many many people who are similar to me. There are many “tea partiers” who never actually “partied” but are on the sidelines doing everything that Eric posted about. There is a strong possibilty that there are more tea party backers in hiding than there are tea party protesters being seen. Taking the protesters in from the streets and stopping the hits by the Media, getting infiltrated by Obamites, infighting and offshoots, etc… serves absolutely no purpose.

    Let them see the numbers of protesters diminish and let them believe that the Tea party imploded on itself. They will not be able to gage the “Concerned Americans” who are doing it all behind the scenes. The timing is perfect. Just look at all of the Liberal affiliations who are highly organized and “use workers” to go out and make noise. It’s embarrassing. The big shots behind the scenes are quietly making the moves while they pay for the noise to be made outside. Its noise that actually does nothing.

  • LisaDe

    but then I read through all the comments and came to the conclusion that Eric is 100% right. I have never attended a party, I am not the “protester” type, and I know many many people who are similar to me. There are many “tea partiers” who never actually “partied” but are on the sidelines doing everything that Eric posted about. There is a strong possibilty that there are more tea party backers in hiding than there are tea party protesters being seen. Taking the protesters in from the streets and stopping the hits by the Media, getting infiltrated by Obamites, infighting and offshoots, etc… serves absolutely no purpose.

    Let them see the numbers of protesters diminish and let them believe that the Tea party imploded on itself. They will not be able to gage the “Concerned Americans” who are doing it all behind the scenes. The timing is perfect. Just look at all of the Liberal affiliations who are highly organized and “use workers” to go out and make noise. It’s embarrassing. The big shots behind the scenes are quietly making the moves while they pay for the noise to be made outside. Its noise that actually does nothing.

  • tdpwells

    I am unclear why the two can’t exist in unison. Tea Party events are a great way to network, get ballot petitions signed, and engage in dialogue with folks who are just now checking us out to see what the real deal is.

    Perhaps I am reading it wrong, but it seems this post is discouraging Tea Party events, and that rubs me the wrong way.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.comandhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport
  • Hugh
  • http://www.laborunionreport.comandhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

    Good campaigns need to do both.

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    I don’t know that we need to move beyond the Tea Parties so much as we need to build on them. And get involved in the primaries, STAT!

    I see the Tea Party movement as a force of creative destruction. Wild and woolly? Yes. Effective? Yes.

    I hate to mix religion with politics, but strictly for the purposes of analogy…I think there’s an interesting comparison to be made between the Tea Parties and Protestant Christianity. Very sectarian, very decentralized…and very influential.

  • PoliPundita

    “If the streets are quiet…The left should get complacent”

    Exactly. The fact that Dems have chosen to throw themselves over the cliff of ideology rather than listen argues that it is time to gather our energy and outrage and hone it, concentrate it and focus it on November.

    There comes a time when you have had said all there is to say. I have nothing left to say to any Democrat–except “goodbye and good riddance.” If they are foolish enough to mistake my silence for indifference, so much the better.

  • tdpwells

    It is those local tea parties that have been the jumping off point for local candidates that are putting their feet in the water for the first time, and that’s why I want to see the events continue. I’m in central OH, and at the tax day tea party last year (approx 7k attended), we had candidates for various city councils speaking – good conservatives like Alicia Healy (who lost by a very slim margin). Were it not for that huge gathering, how many in the crowd would have voted for her on their ballot? How many would have known who she was and what she stood for, and then went home to find out more?

    The ‘dogcatcher’ candidates are more important now than ever, since they end up being the future of the party in generations to come, and these events are an excellent way for those candidates to get noticed, get their individual platforms heard, and start branding themselves.

  • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

    (Disclaimer: I have participated in several mass demonstrations, ranging from anti-Vietnam War (Rutland VT, 1971, attendance ~43) to Sanctify of Life (DC, 1990, 1998, attendance ~300K?), and have enjoyed somewhat more than Art’s warm feeling–there can be productive networking, action-inducing confidence-building, education for the younguns, but only for those on the inside.)

    however, there is a flip side:

    There is a high degree of unintended irony when one of the main messages of a movement (and for you yutes, it has been heard on both sides of the ditch over the decades) shifts from—

    The Manipulative Sensation Matrix is Evil!!!
    The Manipulative Sensation Matrix is Evil!!!
    The Manipulative Sensation Matrix is Evil!!!

    to—

    Please let us in to the Manipulative Sensation Matrix!!!!!
    Please let us in to the Manipulative Sensation Matrix!!!!!
    Please let us in to the Manipulative Sensation Matrix!!!!!

    Some of us have a lifelong clue that the longest-lasting methods of persuasion just happen to be those executed on the smallest of scales, between:

    Husbands and Wives
    Parents and Children
    Relatives
    Neighbors
    Friends

    But maybe those methods just aren’t … conservative enough … anymore.

  • http://stixblog.com Black River Wolf

    and I do agree for the most part. I do think more people need to get involved in the Party Political Game. That is the ultimate goal. We need to get the Republican Party back on track as the party of fiscal sanity. And the only way to do that is to take it over from the people that are running it into the ground now.

    But I do think that the Tea Parties are a good place to educate people on how to do this. And they are good places to network and get more contacts.

    I totally understand the point, but I think the Tea Parties are still important

  • tdpwells
  • mriggio

    Protesting, carrying signs, espirit de corps, networking, showing up and speaking out are all wonderful, makes you feel good and involved, and certainly your voice is being heard. Or is it really?

    When the counter-protest groups begin to get as much press (crashtheparty) as you’re getting, and our friends in the media are waiting for either the clash or the missteps, perhaps it’s time to consider, what should be the next logical step?

    As Erick suggests, now may be the time to redirect your passion to a place where your voice will most certainly be heard, where you can have a direct and personal affect on grassroots politics. Certainly, continue to vote, support your local, state and national candidates; write letters, call, blog, talk to people. But in order to be truly effective, please take ColdWarrior’s advice, seek out your local Republican Party, attend their events, investigate becoming a Precinct Committeeman or helper, roll up your sleeves, and get to work! Direct your precious resources of time, energy, money, passion & committment where they will be most effective.

    All the information you need is readily available; the time investment isn’t considerable, the processes are simple and transparent. Please consider putting yourself into a position where you can do the most good. Become a Precinct Committeeman, we need your help! Thanks!

  • Steve Foley

    Over the past 6 months The Patriot Caucus has been working with state Tea Party organizations to move there members from rally mode to GOTV mode our goal is a simple one — train and organize Tea Party Activists to become Electoral Activists.

    Obviously this is a bit of pimpage for the organization I’m involved with but more to the point Erick is right here.

    We shouldn’t discourage anyone from protesting and rallying but a years worth of rallying (although effective in slowing and lessening to some degree, the passage of Health Care) didn’t stop bad legislation from being rammed through… the people who we needed to listen most failed to do so now the focus must be replacing them with those who will!

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    Protesting and campaigning aren’t mutually exclusive…and I think we have the time, money and energy to do both.

    I think protesting can motivate and inspire campaigns.

    Protesting can facilitate networking.

    Protesting can be a show of force. Something tangible, palpable, very visible…and inspiring.

    The tea parties are attracting new people. Yes it’s sometimes unsettling and messy, but it’s the kind of thing that will eventually inspire the loyalty and commitment that draws people to phone banks and inspires them to stuff envelopes.

    Let’s not stifle the energy…let’s harness it.

    During the early days of January, John Hawkins was advising conservatives to stay away from the Scott Brown campaign. He was afraid that conservatives would discouraged after having wasted time and money on an inevitable Scott Brown loss.

    I love John Hawkins, but the conventional wisdom failed.

    Here’s my question: Do we really think conservatives will really run out of money, enthusiasm and confidence if they invest too heavily in the wild and woolly creative destruction of the tea party movement? Are we such wimps?

    I think conservatives have virtually unlimited political potential. We can walk and chew gum at the same time…we can create and destroy at the same time…we can protest and campaign at the same time.

  • NoDoze

    I am reluctant to disagree on any point with one as intelligent, and accomplished as you – no/sarc. I have worked at the precinct level in the past, and recognize the vital importance of that political function. The aspect of your view that bothers me is that without the galvanizing effect of the public demonstrations, few people would even think of becoming a PC, or any other Party function. The Tea Party gatherings awaken people to the realization that they do have a voice.

    What your view misses is that not all (maybe even not a majority) of the people who attend Tea Party gatherings are Repubs., and therefore would never think of working within the Repub. party to take it over and/or change it. We need conservative people of whatever origin to be moved toward taking active roles so they can then see themselves as PCs or other specific kinds of activists within the more conservative party to make it what the conservative party should be.

    I understand and appreciate your enthusiasm and work in your chosen area, but we sometimes need to back up and look at the bigger picture.

    This is not meant as criticism, but if it is seen as criticism, then recognize that it is meant to be constructive.

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    I strongly agree. Campaigning, contributing, building, writing…all of these things are essential to political victory. These are the ways we change the country for the better.

    Protesting is actually changing the country too. Protesting inspires, motivates, provides opportunities for networking, etc.

    I’m convinced a more liberal and malignant form of ObamaCare would have passed much sooner if not for the impact of the Tea Party. This would have allowed the lefties to pursue more of their agenda and save more of their resources for other priorities.

    Let’s keep fighting on every front…including the protest front. Let’s give CNN the NYT, WaPo and HuffPo something to keep talking about. Let’s overwhelm the left in the same way that Reagan overwhelmed the Evil Empire!

  • http://stixblog.com Black River Wolf

    Going to something like the Patriot Caucus or something similar is a great way to learn about how to get involved more than just showing up at rallies.

  • NoDoze

    n/c

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    To be honest Erick, I find myself disagreeing with you these days as much as I agree, but I couldn’t agree more than what you’ve written here.

    I actually distanced myself from the Tea Party groups before they were called by that name. I went to a few protests, and thought they were worthwhile at the time because it raised visibility to issues at the time that were being ignored.

    When the first Tea Parties came out, it was immediately apparent that people were going to take advantage of the new contact list of conservative activists. Even though I didn’t attend, I began to be inundated with commercial email spam from so-called Tea Party Leaders. I immediately removed myself from their lists.

    I’ve felt since back then that the true test of these people was whether or not we would see them when it was time to knock on doors and make phone calls. I’ve also been concerned (especially here in Colorado) that these people could do more harm than good by deciding they didn’t like the candidate that won out and decide to stay home. We’ll see if that happens or not. It’s most likely to happen in the Governor’s race (which is still THE MOST IMPORTANT RACE in Colorado), closely followed by the Senate race.

    I think it’s great that the people involved worked hard to raise awareness of the issues that were largely ignored by the MSM. It’s time to shift gears and start supporting local candidates at all levels. I hope most of the tea party folks do exactly that. If not, I’m convinced that we will become another socialist European-style country, and it’ll take decades to pull ourselves out of that if it were even possible.

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    Blog, contribute to your favorite conservative candidates (some of whom were probably at the Tea Party), email the new friends you made at the Tea Party, brainstorm,, post videos, be inspired.

    For me, the tea parties provide much needed inspiration and motivation that helps to push through the more mundane and tedious work that we face in this struggle against Obama et al.

  • phred

    People that show up at these events, both local and wide range national ones are not necessarily people that will go the Republican Party meetings, become precinct captains, or volunteer for candidates. These may be the first activist efforts on their parts. We have no way of knowing if the political effort of any party is helped or hampered by these gatherings. But we do know that a message of limited government involvement is being communicated and THAT is above and beyond the routine political effort that has the Republicans sucking the hind teat that it now does.

    So friends, I’ll continue to grease my local candidates and talk them up to my friends, neighbors, and family just like I always do but I’ll take 3 days off this week and go to D.C. and do that too.

    It can’t hurt, and it might encourage others to JUST DO SOMETHING.

  • Achance

    I think the Tea Party type gatherings are good for the people who gather in them and I guess that is a good thing. The Left in the ’60s and early ’70s could turn out tens and even sometimes hundreds of thousands, but the turnout really wasn’t because of opposition to the War for more than maybe a hardcore 10%. An anti-war demonstration was second only to an outdoor music festival for sex, drugs, and rock ‘n roll, and that’s what brought out the crowds. Since Tea Party gatherings tend to be rather staid affairs, the people are actually there for a political reason, which makes a large gathering all the more impressive.

    I share Erick’s concerns about those who are trying to make themselves. I’ve worked for and with all too many born-again Republicans who just opportunistically became Rs during the ’90s and are really just all about how far they can get their hands in the cookie jar.

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    Love your ideas!

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    Let’s let the left know that we’re not just passively tweeting, commenting on blogs and sending our money to be wasted by M. Steele.

    We’re a force to be reckoned with!

    When the left sees huge crowds in the middle of the week all over the country protesting big government and out-of-control spending, they see highly motivated voters. Voters who show up in the face of rain, sleet or snow. Voters who will bring their like-minded friends to the polls. Voters who are committed and who will GET UP off their seats and get the job done.

    They know what we stand for and they need our votes. Let your voice be heard in EVERY setting, including the streets.

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    This is what I’m really excited about. Ten states have primary elections next month. Let’s harness the power of the the parties to Get Out the Vote for fiscally conservative, small government candidates. I think this will happen.

    Are you ready?
    http://www.rightklik.net/2010/04/are-you-ready.html

  • rbiii

    Like others have said, it isn’t an either / or proposition.

    Be part of the Tea Parties. Protest.

    BUT focus on the big picture and be active within the GOP since it is the only choice conservatives / liberty-loving people have. The Democrat party is the party of Big Government Progressivism. The only chance this country has is a re-invigorated GOP with a renewed focus on Constitutional government and adherence to the Founding Principles.

    We need to educate the disinterested to not only the ruin Progressivism is heaping on us but also how applying the tried and true original intent of the Constitution which made this country so unique in human history.

    We rejected Statism in 1776 and 1789. We can reject it again in 2012 and beyond.

    Conservatism wins in the court of public opinion in the US because it is based on what made this country great: The Constitution and our Constitutional Republic. Progressives don’t ever try to argue the merits of their ideologies in the court of public opinion. They only focus on the alleged “benefits” of their policies, not their principles because they have only one principle: Exanding the power of the central Government.

    We can win this, folks. We can stop this slide to the European-styled Nanny State.

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    There are vast untapped resources within the ranks of the Tea Party. Let’s build on the enthusiasm.

    The Tea Party doesn’t need to “move on,” it needs to keep rolling.

    Keep rolling through the primaries to help small-gov’t fiscal conservatives win GOP nominations. Keep rolling through the general election to help the GOP take back Congress. Keep rolling afterward to hold the new leaders accountable.

  • Finrod

    Go to April 15 protests if you want to– but come armed with information to share with other people there. Let people know that yes, the Democrats are the problem, and the reason behind that is that radicals took over the Democratic Party and (hat tip to ColdWarrior) the answer to that is to take over the other major party, the Republican Party, by becoming precinct committeemen.

    Make a list of when the important primaries and special elections are in your area (and nationally if you’re going to DC) so that you can give this information to those you talk to there. Heck, if you have the money to sink into making one-page handouts of that information, do so and pass them out to everyone. Let people know about redstate.com so that they can come here and get better informed.

    Knowledge is power, as the old Schoolhouse Rock saying goes. The more knowledge you can impart to others that cared enough to come out and protest, the more power we’ll have to throw the bums out this November and two Novembers hence.

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    Please go to your first Tea Party protest on April 15th and tell us what you think.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    My experience here in Arizona has been a little different in terms of what kind of people attend the Tea Parties. First, while they might not be Republicans, they are conservatives. I have met only a handful of Democrats. Most are either disgruntled Republicans or independents. I haven’t missed the fact that most of the folks at these protests are not Republican, as I know that in Maricopa county, for example, there are more registered independents than Republicans. But, as I mentioned, virtually all of the people at the protests are CONSERVATIVE. And, unfortunately, almost all are clueless with respect to basic American civics. That’s why they are at Tea Parties. They want to “do something” and think that, somehow, a protest is going to change what the post Modernists in the House, Senate and White House will do. They actually think the protests are going to change the behavior of those people. So far, it hasn’t worked. They couldn’t find their local Republican Party committee to save their lives. Despite the internet. Despite the phone book.

    Indeed, when I ask, “Who elected Michael Steele to the RNC chair?, they haven’t a clue.

    Compounding this set of problems is the fact that the Republican Party itself has been doing virtually NO recruiting of precinct committeemen. At the April 15, 2009 Tea Party at the Capitol Mall in Phoenix, I was the ONLY precinct committeeman or other Republican “official” actively recruiting precinct committeeman. The rest of the Party leaders were AFRAID to recruit because, I guess, they thought they might offend someone. They completely misread the movement. I have written at length here at Redstate as to why I believe Steele and even the conservative “stalwarts” in the House and Senate will not say a word about the need for conservatives to come into the Party to become voting members of it. It’s self-interest. They are TERRIFIED the Republican Party will be changed overnight by a huge influx of conservatives into its voting ranks, resulting in them being tossed out in either the next primary election (for those in public elected offices) or in the next internal Party leadership elections. Do you not believe that Steele knows that he’s history after the 2010 elections at the next RNC election if thousands and thousands of conservatives fill up all those PC vacancies and then elect new, more conservative state chairman and RNC delegates?

    The most often heard response I get from tea partiers when I say, “You’ve got to become a precinct committeeman” is, “What’s a precinct committeeman.”

    You said, “We need conservative people of whatever origin to be moved toward taking active roles so they can then see themselves as PCs or other specific kinds of activists within the more conservative party to make it what the conservative party should be.” Agreed.

    How do you propose to DO that? (And I’m not taking anything you said as criticism, I’d just like to know what you think we, or I, ought to be DOING to reach the goal you articulated and with which I agree.)

    Thanks,
    ColdWarrior
    Conservatives of the U.S., UNITE! Become Republican precinct committeemen and CHANGE the Party and the world!

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    They’re shows of feelings.

    Political force is brought to bear at the ballot box.

  • Jonas Parker

    If these public expressions stop, many of the majority who are not ‘plugged in’ will take it as a negative…. as evidence that MSM and the Beltway have won again and that the anger is subsiding. There are many who have never been to a Tea Party but who strongly support the ideas behind them, and gain encouragement by witnessing the public outpouring of sentiment that they share. I believe that I have actually witnessed in some cases the beginning of a change in the entitlement many liberals feel about expressing their beliefs in public as if they are entitled, and also a change in the willingness of individual conservatives to rebut them without fear and demand respect for their views.

    I would argue that a lack of visibility does not work in favor of sustaining the momentum. The rallies will attenuate if and when the participants no longer feel motivated to participate and sustained by that participation. They will die a natural death when they have outlived their purpose.

    The beltway and the MSM have for decades successfully made conservatives feel isolated and powerless. The rallies are an anecdote for that isolation. In addition, there is a powerful psychology behind these demonstrations that without a doubt puts pressure on both the Dems/Libs and those Republicans who would like to ignore the sentiment being expressed. The Tea Parties will continue to help us influence the Republican party in the manner we desire. It seems that only in the last couple of weeks, the MSM/Lib story about the Tea Parties being ‘fringe’, ‘racist’, etc has begun to show some significant cracks. If the Tea Parties stop now, the revisionist history will maintain they were just a bunch of lunatics all along.

    They are only one part of the spectrum of participation, but they are a vital, visible part. Like it or not, many will vote the right way but will not get involved further in the Republican party. While it is a good goal, we will not get all the independents, much less disaffected Dems, into the Rep party. The Tea Parties enable them to participate at some level against the leftist agenda and to gain confidence for the combat that lies ahead, which will be carried out under the withering fire of the MSM and Dems (and some Reps too).

    I can understand why some would not want to spend further time on rallies. Especially those with significant other roles to play. If the ‘movement’ cannot survive without such people, then it is time for adieu. While I fully agree that demonstrations are no substitute for more effective activity that actually gets people elected, I personally will be one who continues to attend, because I get a personal strength, reinforcement, and comradery from doing so, and I maintain that there is a stratigic importance to it, as well.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    Not sure you’ve assessed it 100% correctly, but you’ve bothered to assess it all, putting you at the top 98% percentile. Questions beget answers. This was was bound to happen, I think we’ve known for several months now. Interestingly, the “movement” is deteriorating at the showbiz end only, that part I think you are addressing.

    We always knew the Enemy would try to get out in front, and they are able to outgun us via the media, making that path easier. They have plans for the public/showbiz Tea Party (this week, April 15) that suddenly, you’ve decided should just disappear into thin air. I agree.

    I was always a “fire starter” (Sam Adams) more than a Tea Partier (also, Sam Adams) anyway. In other words, time to do an ACORN and show up next month as the Leipzig Philharmonic Booster Club, that simply wants so-and-so D-MI to get the hell out of Dodge. I like it.

    The good news is that the “tea Parties” will never go away where they matter most…at the grass roots level, where, Katie Couric couldn’t spot them with with a Celestron. That’s where we want the politics to squirm. That’s where we want to reinject a saline solution of Fear back into those “bakayaros”.

    This way, we stay out in front of the Enemy. Until the GOPs know how, or even that they want to get out in front, this is all we got.

    Ya done good.

  • Jonas Parker

    And contrary to most of us, you have nearly unlimited outlets for the application of your energies. While I do participate in the electoral process and am becoming involved in the local Rep party, I have some concerns about your comments when applied to the aggregate.

    If these public expressions stop, many of the majority who are not ‘plugged in’ will take it as a negative…. as evidence that MSM and the Beltway have won again and that the anger is subsiding. There are many who have never been to a Tea Party but who strongly support the ideas behind them, and gain encouragement by witnessing the public outpouring of sentiment that they share. I believe that I have actually witnessed in some cases the beginning of a change in the entitlement many liberals feel about expressing their beliefs in public as if they are entitled, and also a change in the willingness of individual conservatives to rebut them without fear and demand respect for their views.

    I would argue that a lack of visibility does not work in favor of sustaining the momentum. The rallies will attenuate if and when the participants no longer feel motivated to participate and sustained by that participation. They will die a natural death when they have outlived their purpose.

    The beltway and the MSM have for decades successfully made conservatives feel isolated and powerless. The rallies are an anecdote for that isolation. In addition, there is a powerful psychology behind these demonstrations that without a doubt puts pressure on both the Dems/Libs and those Republicans who would like to ignore the sentiment being expressed. The Tea Parties will continue to help us influence the Republican party in the manner we desire. It seems that only in the last couple of weeks, the MSM/Lib story about the Tea Parties being ‘fringe’, ‘racist’, etc has begun to show some significant cracks. If the Tea Parties stop now, the revisionist history will maintain they were just a bunch of lunatics all along.

    They are only one part of the spectrum of participation, but they are a vital, visible part. Like it or not, many will vote the right way but will not get involved further in the Republican party. While it is a good goal, we will not get all the independents, much less disaffected Dems, into the Rep party. The Tea Parties enable them to participate at some level against the leftist agenda and to gain confidence for the combat that lies ahead, which will be carried out under the withering fire of the MSM and Dems (and some Reps too).

    I can understand why some would not want to spend further time on rallies. Especially those with significant other roles to play. If the ‘movement’ cannot survive without such people, then it is time for adieu. While I fully agree that demonstrations are no substitute for more effective activity that actually gets people elected, I personally will be one who continues to attend, because I get a personal strength, reinforcement, and comradery from doing so, and I maintain that there is a stratigic importance to it, as well.

  • Jonas Parker

    And contrary to most of us, you have nearly unlimited outlets for the application of your energies. While I do participate in the electoral process and am becoming involved in the local Rep party, I have some concerns about your comments when applied to the aggregate.

    If these public expressions stop, many of the majority who are not ‘plugged in’ will take it as a negative…. as evidence that MSM and the Beltway have won again and that the anger is subsiding. There are many who have never been to a Tea Party but who strongly support the ideas behind them, and gain encouragement by witnessing the public outpouring of sentiment that they share. I believe that I have actually witnessed in some cases the beginning of a change in the entitlement many liberals feel about expressing their beliefs in public as if they are entitled, and also a change in the willingness of individual conservatives to rebut them without fear and demand respect for their views.

    I would argue that a lack of visibility does not work in favor of sustaining the momentum. The rallies will attenuate if and when the participants no longer feel motivated to participate and sustained by that participation. They will die a natural death when they have outlived their purpose.

    The beltway and the MSM have for decades successfully made conservatives feel isolated and powerless. The rallies are an anecdote for that isolation. In addition, there is a powerful psychology behind these demonstrations that without a doubt puts pressure on both the Dems/Libs and those Republicans who would like to ignore the sentiment being expressed. The Tea Parties will continue to help us influence the Republican party in the manner we desire. It seems that only in the last couple of weeks, the MSM/Lib story about the Tea Parties being ‘fringe’, ‘racist’, etc has begun to show some significant cracks. If the Tea Parties stop now, the revisionist history will maintain they were just a bunch of lunatics all along.

    They are only one part of the spectrum of participation, but they are a vital, visible part. Like it or not, many will vote the right way but will not get involved further in the Republican party. While it is a good goal, we will not get all the independents, much less disaffected Dems, into the Rep party. The Tea Parties enable them to participate at some level against the leftist agenda and to gain confidence for the combat that lies ahead, which will be carried out under the withering fire of the MSM and Dems (and some Reps too).

    I can understand why some would not want to spend further time on rallies. Especially those with significant other roles to play. If the ‘movement’ cannot survive without such people, then it is time for adieu. While I fully agree that demonstrations are no substitute for more effective activity that actually gets people elected, I personally will be one who continues to attend, because I get a personal strength, reinforcement, and comradery from doing so, and I maintain that there is a stratigic importance to it, as well.

  • http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com IronDioPriest

    While I see nothing wrong with your desire to “put down the protest sign” and instead work for conservative candidates, I believe that an “all-of-the-above” approach is needed. The impression cannot be given that things are “business as usual”. There needs to be a constant and growing presence and pressure placed on government so they are rendered incapable of believing that the American people are complacent or satisfied.

    Conservatives have always felt isolated. Conservatives have behaved as if stepping up and stepping out would find them standing alone, in a hopeless minority, shouted down by media and Leftists far more adept at the protest game.

    Now, with the Tea Parties, conservatives are out and active, and looking at one another in the crowd, finally understanding that we are not a minority, not isolated, and that united, we cannot be shouted down. Why on God’s Earth would we want to stifle that now simply to avoid the Left’s distortions and mischaracterizations that they will engage in no matter what organization of lack thereof exists within the movement?

    Do what you will, Erick, and God bless you for all you do. But please, reconsider encouraging Tea Party activists to take their eye off the protest ball. We’re just learning how to do it, and learning what the Left has known all along: There is great power in protest.

  • akw1

    I want you to read this, Eric, and tell me that the rallies aren’t working. You are sadly mistaken if you think that tea party activists only go to rallies, but rallies are the catalyst for getting people involved! They keep people involved and motivated, provide venues to coordinate further action, and most of all, they consolidate our voices so that they are heard!

    34% Say They Or Someone Close To Them Part of Tea Party Movement – April 13, 2010

    Twenty-four percent (24%) of U.S. voters now say they consider themselves a part of the Tea Party movement, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. That?s an eight-point increase from 16% a month ago.

    Another 10% say they are not a part of the movement but have close friends or family members who are.

    Fifty-five percent (55%) of voters say they have no ties to the Tea Party movement. Eleven percent (11%) more are not sure.

    The rise in Tea party support is perhaps not surprising at a time when more voters than ever (58%) favor repeal of the national health care plan just passed by Democrats in Congress and signed into law by President Obama. Most voters remain convinced that the health care plan will require an increase in taxes on the middle class as a time when 66% of voters believe America is already overtaxed.

    Forty-two percent (42%) of Republicans say they are part of the movement, compared to nine percent (9%) of Democrats and 24% of voters not affiliated with either major party. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Mainstream voters view themselves as Tea Party members, while 84% of the Political Class say they have no ties to the movement.

    Voters remain closely divided in their views of the movement which formally came to life a year ago on Tax Day, April 15, to protest the high-tax, big-government policies of both major political parties. Forty percent (40%) have a favorable opinion of the Tea Party movement, while 42% view the protest movement unfavorably. Eighteen percent (18%) are undecided.

    These numbers are virtually unchanged from March. However, views of the movement have declined slightly over the past year. Just days after they were held last April, 51% of Americans had a favorable view of the ?tea parties? held nationwide, including 32% who said their view of the events was very favorable.

    Seventy percent (70%) of Republican voters view the Tea Party movement favorably. Seventy-one percent (71%) of Democrats do not. Unaffiliated voters are almost evenly divided in their views.

    More noticeably, 96% of the Political Class regard the Tea Party movement unfavorably, while 58% of Mainstream voters have a favorable opinion of the movement.

    When it comes to major issues confronting the nation, 48% of voters now say the average Tea Party member is closer to their views than President Obama is. Forty-four percent (44%) hold the opposite view and believe the president?s views are closer to their own.

    Fifty-two percent (52%) believe the average member of the Tea Party movement has a better understanding of the issues facing America today than the average member of Congress.

    Tea Party voters are changing the equation in several closely-watched Senate races, including Nevada where Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is struggling for reelection and Florida?s Republican Primary where Marco Rubio is far outdistancing establishment candidate Governor Charlie Crist.

    Thirty-five percent (35%) of voters now think Republicans and Democrats are so much alike that an entirely new political party is needed to represent the American people. Nearly half (47%) of voters disagree and say a new party is not needed

    If the Tea Party was organized as a political party, 34% of voters would prefer a Democrat in a three-way congressional race. In that hypothetical match-up, the Republican gets 27% of the vote with the Tea Party hopeful in third at 21%. However, if only the Democrat or Republican had a real chance to win, most of the Tea Party supporters would vote for the Republican.

    Just 21% of voters nationwide believe that the federal government now enjoys the consent of the governed.

    In his new book, In Search of Self-Governance, Scott Rasmussen observes that the American people are ?united in the belief that our political system is broken, that politicians are corrupt, and that neither major political party has the answers.? He adds that ?the gap between Americans who want to govern themselves and the politicians who want to rule over them may be as big today as the gap between the colonies and England during the 18th century.?

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/april_2010/34_say_they_or_someone_close_to_them_part_of_tea_party_movement

  • akw1

    Hoyer: Tea Party having an impact – April 13th, 2010

    (CNN) ? House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer admitted Tuesday that the protests and rallies by Tea Party activists across the country are having an impact on lawmakers’ decisions about running for another term.

    “Do I think that negative atmosphere that’s been created by the Tea Party and by others certainly goes into the thinking of Members? I think it does. I think you honestly have to point out that it does,” Hoyer told reporters at his weekly pen and pad session in the Capitol.

    But Hoyer maintained that Tea Party activists had nothing to do with Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak’s announcement last week not to run for re-election. “Bart Stupak is a very courageous Member; he wasn’t forced out by anybody.” Hoyer said he took Stupak at his word that representing a large rural district made it tough to spend time with his family.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/13/hoyer-tea-party-having-an-impact/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+rss/cnn_politicalticker+%28Blog:+Political+Ticker%29&fbid=oVMO7WArl0p

  • Common_Cents

    Division of labor, you aren’t going to do all the jobs in the process. Some will be good at continual recruitment/PR etc thru tea parties and you may be more involved in the next level of activism. It’s a continuous process that needs many people doing different functions, not a discrete process closing gates behind you. You will lock out millions of new people wanting to help and take action.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Thanks again for becoming a ball player.

    ColdWarrior
    Conservatives, UNITE! Become Republican precinct committeemen and CHANGE the Party and the world! NOW!

  • jstjoan

    why you offer the false choice between protesting in the streets and being politically engaged. I’m living proof, as are many other Tea Party protesters, that one leads to the other.

    Since February 27, 2009 I have been to nine Tea Party protests. Three at the GA State Capitol (2/27, Tax Day, Cap n Trade), Independence Day, two at Congressman David Scott’s local office in GA, another local Tea Party in Barnesville, GA, the 9/12 march on DC, the recent March 20 health care protest in DC. I’ve screamed my throat sore and I’ve laughed and I’ve cried.

    Had it not been for the inspiration I received and the networking of like-minded individuals that resulted from attending these protests, I would not have:

    1.Read more than 40 books from every topic from the Founders, to American History, to current political events.

    2.Spend hours a day reading the daily news, blogs, and text of Bills in order and to keep myself informed so that I can spread the information I’ve acquired to my coworkers, friends, family, FB friends, and Tweeps.

    3.Donated more than $2000 to groups like FreedomWorks and Heritage Foundation, and directly to candidates (including Chuck DeVore, Doug Hoffman, Scott Brown, Marco Rubio, Dan Benishek, and just yesterday Charles Djou for his special election in Hawaii next month) and also to the Senate Conservatives Fund.

    4.Started my own RedState Diary and also written two articles that were published in a local online newspaper about my local County BoC.

    5.Attend meetings of a local 9/12 Project in my county.

    6.Faxed, emailed, and phoned countless times to my elected officials, both in DC and in GA.

    7.Distributed more than 100 pocket Constitutions to law enforcement officials in my area
    .
    8.Become a volunteer with Henry County for Karen Handel.

    9.Watch Hannity and Beck, and Listen to Rush and Levin regularly.

    I plan on attending the Tax Day Tea Party at the GA Capitol in Atlanta this Thursday. I hope to continue to be inspired by other Patriots and the time and effort they are putting forth to reclaim our nation from the fists of the destructive Progressives. I can only hope I may inspire others, too, to be informed and engaged.

  • NoDoze

    my comments on your post.

    When you mention Maricopa County in AZ, it brings back fond memories of the eight years that I lived and worked in that part of the country.

    In answer to your specific question as to how we motivate people, to become actively involved, I suspect that you have much more knowledge on that subject than do I. I was drawn to participate by first volunteering to work at the polls when I lived in Indianapolis. The PC apparently saw some potential in me, and invited me to serve on the slating committee for an upcoming election. I had great fun going to meetings and meeting prospective candidates, questioning them, keeping a database of information and comparisons about them. I them was sent as a delegate to the local (Marion County) slating convention, where I met and networked with other delegates to shape the ticket. Those were stimulating experiences.

    My PC suggested that I run for a PC in the county, but my political career ended when I moved to Florida in 1999.

    I suppose that my specific answer would be: watch for promising people at such places as TEA Parties and personally groom them as I described my own experiences, and teach other people to do the same within their own circles. I feel certain that I am telling you nothing new, and nothing that you are not already doing. It is ongoing work, but I for one understand the importance of politics at the precinct level.

    Thank you for all you are doing. Due to age and family responsibilities, I can’t be as active as I once was, but I do what I can.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Be a precinct committeeman and a tea part goer.

  • jstjoan

    and that is, that the sad thing about your thoughts here today is that the media and the Left will only focus on your argument as ammunition against the TP movement and the arguments in favor of the TP in the comments section here will be completely disregarded. I’m saddened by that.

  • joayn

    I plan to attend a tea party to show solidarity with fellow patriots AND to pass out DeVore fliers and get folks jazzed up about voting for Chuck in June.

  • Bill S

    is different than “taking action that makes a difference”. Attending rallies are good for the psyche, but the odds of them convincing a legislator to change their stripes are low to zero.

    Read the comments & diaries from our friend ColdWarrior here on RS. He is the textbook example of what EE is talking about.

    You need to let off steam and get catharsis? Great….go to a rally. You want to really make a difference in our political system? Get involved in the party structure, donate money, and volunteer for campaigns.

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    I’ve never been to a tea party that was a showcase for unbridled emotions.

    “Shows of feelings?” That’s a sweeping generalization that discredits a lot of thoughtful people.

    Having said that, I wouldn’t discredit the power of emotions. I hope that conservatives stay passionate during the primary season and in November.

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  • http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com IronDioPriest

    The rallies are about conservatives finally looking at one another across the public square and coming to the realization that we are not isolated and that we possess much more power than we have allowed ourselves to believe.

    The voting booth and the political process are only two small facets of what will be needed to save this country from the Socialists. Networking, a newly emboldened citizenry feeling its oats, camaraderie, testing boundaries, a vehicle for ordinary citizens to test their electoral viability with the grass roots, challenging government with growing numbers, recruiting, creating a “bandwagon” – and possibly even civil disobedience if and when circumstances warrant – are all worthy functions of the Tea Party rallies that should be encouraged, not discouraged.

  • gekster

    It isn’t about changing thier minds. It’s about changing them.
    They have had long enough of a time to see, if they wanted to, what the American people want and are thinking, or as in HCR, don’t want.
    Doing a John McLoser and turning “conservative” for the election won’t work this time around.
    Go ahead and ask your local candidte if they will act and vote as to what they are campaighniing on.
    Tell them, “You are running as a conservative, but will you stay that way”.
    Hold them acountable on the precinct level.
    Thats where YOU have a voice.
    One on one.
    Do what IDP said. Talk and communicate with your friends and neighbors.
    You’ll be glad you did, and it would be a grass roots thing to do.

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  • davesinsanantonio

    It is time to damp down the protests and get to work. Here’s a thought the arrogant media will take it as a sign that they have won, that they have crippled the movement and sent us all home with our tails between our legs. Then, as Satchel Paige sort of said, they won’t look back and something will be gaining on them. This is the time to get busy and then in November we can sandbag the left and win our country back. To quote another American patriot, “Let’s roll!”

  • davesinsanantonio

    a request to actually do more. Some people protest without ever getting beyond the protest. Now is the time to actually do positive things to get real constitutional conservatives into office (while getting those who would bypass the Constitution out of office). Just protesting doesn’t go very far in reaching that goal. In addition, the protests will become targets for the left to infiltrate and create disturbances that will discredit the movement and those participating in it. If we quietly go about the business of getting good people elected, it will be harder for them to get their propaganda coups.

  • yankeedoodledandette

    If you think the Tea Party is all about protests and no action, you are mistaken.

    Here’s a glimpse of what’s been going on in California this past year:
    http://vimeo.com/10835009

    Please notice: voter registration, petition drives, candidate vetting, precinct activism, etc…

    I attended a Gubenatorial forum last week in Redlands, put on by Redlands Tea Party Patriots.

    Pasadena Tea Party (aka TeaPAC) has “house Tea Parties” which often include walking precincts directly after the event.

    My Tea Party group started “A More Perfect Union” weekly meetings tonight, we’ve handed out many many pocket Constitutions to the public.

    I was/am personally involved in getting people attending and RUNNING for Central Committee seats in their respective Parties; working with MANY Tea Party organizers up and down CA to do the same.

    There are Tea Party participants who are RUNNING for elected office themselves. And others volunteering for them.

    Some are working the local high schools, including encouraging students to register voters to fulfill the “community service” hours required for graduation.

    So, Erick, I love you, but this ain’t the Tea Party of April 15th, 2009….we are well beyond just standing on a corner waving signs.

    And guess what? The “machine” would prefer we stay on the corner…but we don’t seek their permission to take America back from corruption and/or “politics as usual” on BOTH sides of the aisle.

    To quote Mark Twain, “The reports of our death are greatly exaggerated.”

    Laura Boatright
    http://teapartyie.com

  • davesinsanantonio

    be real and to be effective. People who “think” can also “feel”. What we have to do is get beyond “thinking” AND “feeling, and get to WORK!

  • davesinsanantonio

    ?Trust, but VIDEOTAPE!? It is the videotapes of these events that will discredit the lapdog media in their lying, fellowtravelling, fawning servitude to all things of the left.

  • davesinsanantonio

    Their arrogance will not let them even see anything to be scared about. Of course, there are a few on the left with enough brains to be “concerned”, but not yet afraid. This is good thing. If too many on the left become actually scared of the movement, they may take steps. What we really should want is not for them to become alerted to what is actually going on in the country, but to wake up the morning after the election and wonder what the hell happened.

  • davesinsanantonio

    movement after November is for it to devolve into a little sniping outfit. What we do not need is for those who have gotten used to being in the limelight using that exposure to nit pick newly elected officials for not doing some one particular thing some protester cherishes, or for not moving fast enough in de-funding, repealing, etc. The media would jump on this type of criticism to discredit the new officials and the whole movement as well.
    The best thing that could happen to the movement after November is to enjoy the victory so much that we all begin to work for its repeat in 2012. Without sniping, whining, or crying. To focus all protests on Obama and any leftover Demrat or squish senators, and holdover representatives, and to work for a return to constitutional government that listens to the people.

  • davesinsanantonio

    If every protester carried a sign for a conservative candidate, the free exposure would be priceless. Just imagine all the television viewers seeing your candidates name. Those who lean with us, but are not out there will see a name that they will know is on the right side. Or, the media will have to just pan across the crowd below the knees. They may try to malign us, but the signs will be priceless. If there are hundreds of signs with the same name it would translate into votes in November. I like it.

  • davesinsanantonio

    on the protest ball, it is not on the end goal of getting conservatives into office. Protesting does not get anyone elected. Protesting is important to raise awareness, but then that awareness must be directed into action. The action that is needed is getting the right people elected. Focus!

  • http://aposematic.wordpress.com aposematic

    Because the Tea Party movement is not a group-think committree, you want out?

    Because some are trying to lead the Tea Parties, you want out?

    Because the left denegrades, accuses, and in general uses their Obama taught Alinsky tactics against the Tea Partiers, you want out? (As if the left needed to have an excuse to condemn the Tea Parties!)

    It seems you are doing exactly what the left is doing, condemning the Tea Parties and Tea Partiers for political gain, I don’t get your argument, maybe more than innuendos against the Tea Parties is warranted here?

    The Tea Parties are nothing more and nothing less than concerned citizens speaking out to save their country–if you can’t stand the heat, you should get out of the kitchen!

  • kervick

    This post concerns me a bit.

    The Tea Parties are bringing new energy to the conservative movement. The old guard, that has organized and worked within the system has not been successful. The TPM has more conservative independents and democrats and brings people that may eschew formal political processes. I think working within the system is necessary but it will also make the movement more republican and will tend to support the entrenched interests, old guard talk radio power, political consultants, and even media and blog activist fundraising.

    To me, the TPM is a social movement like feminism was in the 60′s and 70′s and it needs to be clear about what its core beliefs are and to infuse them into every segment of society, like feminism did and like progressivism does. It can best do that from a politically uncompromised and morally pure position, outside the political establishment.

    I think a guy like Beck has the right idea and focus while Hannity, more of an insider and republican operative, is more easily compromised and marginalized.

    So, I am for a both, and approach.

  • alvin691

    I don’t know I want to hang around a crowd that gathers to see that !

  • jetman

    I was at the kick-off April 15, 2009 (in the cold rain) in D.C.
    I will be there again tomorrow.
    I am volunteering in my Congressional District again.
    I donate $100 at a time to selected, Erick-approved, candidates.

    There are 100′s of thousands like me either already active or about to be THANKS TO THE TEA PARTIES.

    Do not discourage tea party participation – it leads to political participation.

  • DefendUSA

    Erick,
    You may be right that we should move beyond. *My* mindset says otherwise. Since I have been attending tea parties, my first in Chicago, 2/09, I have seen the motivation level go up exponentially for getting involved. Two of my friends in different states are campaigning for office because of the tea parties. These are people who would never have given two Sh**s before.

    I have managed to expand beyond getting 6 people aware of what is at stake, to more than 30. It may not seem like much, but some are people who voted democratically and ignorantly, I might add.

    There are people still waking up, who need to know they are not alone and like it or not, the tea parties show them this.
    A case and point. When President Reagan died, I drove to DC to pay my respects. There were all kinds of people there. Immigrants, tourists, and just your everyday people. I cannot tell you how many times people said they were comforted by the fact that there were so many who thought like they did. Imagine, feeling like you were alone in your beliefs? It doesn’t do much for getting out and doing, does it?
    I believe it tends to isolate you more. Me? Heh. I am just a steamroller. The more isolated I felt, the more I did to combat it. So many others, like my in-laws will not, even if they know what is going on. I know that if you go to a tea party, it gives you the strength to know that not all is lost and it will empower people to be better informed.
    Just my two.

  • 4liberty

    Erick, I know I am getting into this post late, but wanted to note that I had a sinking feeling after reading your post, which I am sure was not your intention.

    I am a big supporter of you and the work you do and understand that the purpose of your message was to encourage people to get involved in the political process, so we can effect change in elections. Though, I think you could have made your point without discouraging attendance at tea parties.

    Political activisim at the state/local level and attendance at tea parties should not be be mutually exclusive.

    In fact, tea parties, undeniably, have been a source of intense energy that has motivated so many people to become politically active, who were previously not even plugged into politics. In my opinion, taking a stand against tea party attendance and encouraging your mass following to do the same, deflates the energy that is so desperately needed to motivate people to act on behalf of candidates and, no doubt, will be misrepresented by the liberal media as a white flag of surrender.

  • Achance

    off the front page. There’s a reason there is a title block and THEN there is room for text.

  • mesalady2

    What makes you think us concerned citizens are not going out and campaigning and calling and emailing and running for local office, etc., etc.? We are doing all of that and pretty darn effectively given the looseness of our ties between groups. The concerned citizens are working our collective rears off! And we’re going to protests. If the protests die down, the administration and Congress that govern to the left will think they’ve beat us down. We take it to every front. And I’ll be out there tomorrow with my home made sign.

  • http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com IronDioPriest

    … That I favor an “all of the above” approach. I don’t see the point of taking the organized protest tactic off the table – whatever its organizational permutations – thus sacrificing a valuable tool in a multi-faceted approach to attacking the enemy.

    Part of what I believe we must do in order to have any kind of lasting success electorally is to never allow the citizenry to settle back into complacency. People have got to be made to understand that everything we have believed America to be is under attack by a formidable enemy that is now in control, and intends to keep it.

    We cannot strive to “get back to normal”, or believe that if we can just win this election or that – if we can just get control of enough political offices – that the threat of Socialism will be contained.

    The entire civic paradigm must change, or this republic is dead. Erick proposes that we stop short of our goal, and try to return to politics-as-usual homeostasis. That is a dead-end route, and I’m frankly dismayed that he has advocated it.

  • hickorystick

    It’s been over a year now, and they offer no solution. What do they wan’t, everyone to become a Colonial?

  • 4liberty

    To other posters, I do apologize for the long title. I meant to delete the middle part and regetted the mistake when I saw the post.

  • johncox

    Erick and the activists are both correct but something more concrete and longer lasting is required.

    The tea parties are great for attracting publicity and recruiting activists and would-be activists. I have attended a couple and have seen (outside of the usual few cranks) an energized populace truly concerned about the misdoings in our political class.

    It struck me several times that it would be much better to channel this energy into something more effective and long lasting. We can certainly support good candidates, which is Erick’s basic message. Pat Toomey would be outstanding – I know Pat and made phone calls to get the vote out for him when he almost beat Specter in the primary long ago.

    The trouble is that a few outstanding politicians is a good start but not long lasting and it won’t solve the problem.

    The real trouble we have in this country is that politics is now a business – it is not public service anymore. People go into politics to make money too often. Or, they find out once they get there that big money is absolutely necessary to keep their office and they sell out to raise it. They have to – even great ones like DeMint will spend so much time fundraising that they can do little else in their lives.

    The need for funds discourages good people from running. It creates cynicism in the people who look at these politicians sweeping up money and believe that it is all about money and not about policy.

    What should we do? Get money out of politics at all levels. How?

    Channel the activism in a positive direction by working to change state constitutions to reduce the size of legislative districts. Make them small – like New Hampshire – so that money is not the deciding factor. Good policy and good people ought to be the driving force.

    In NH, each Rep has about 3000 constituents. They spend very little to get elected. They actually know their voters. They don’t serve forever because they are true part timers and make almost nothing.

    This can be done Federally if we start in the states. Channel the tea party energy to change state constitutions with petitions and votes in November.

    In CA, you might have 10,000 legislators but with the Internet, you don’t need them to all meet together – they can get information and vote online.

    Eliminate all pay and benefits and staff and offices for politicians. They won’t need it with small districts.

    We don’t need term limits or limits on contributions or public financing.

    Get rid of the career politicians with reduced district size. That would be a constructive use of the tea party energy.

  • Achance
  • tonywarren

    For two reasons… Judson Philips and his fellow rip-off artist Mark Skoda. Don’t know the history of these two? Do a simple Google search of “Judson Philips.” I will not allow a Snake Oil Salesman like this speak for me. Would you? Enough said. Educate yourselves and make up your own minds.

  • http://sidburgess.com sidburgess

    Sorry Moe. After re-reading my comment I can see how I was a little to abstract. Apologies.

    Thanks Erick for the rescue. =)

  • Common_Cents

    Not everyone doing both but rather there must be some dedicated to continuing building the tea parties to galvanize and recruit new energy and educate/propel them towards activism.

    When you run a company and quit your marketing/sales effort to grow your customer base you will eventually die.

  • rickindenver

    I have been attending rallies and have been working to get conservatives elected here in Colorado such as Ken Buck, Cory Gardner etc. I was an active voter and nothing more until I attended one of the early rallies. At that rally I met people who truly inspired me, informed me and urged me to take further action. I first learned of Red State at that rally! I would argue that most people will not become any more active than simply voting in November but there will be some that are encouraged to do more by the energy at a rally! They only happen a couple of times a year so I am not going to “plow” alot of resources into it.
    If our local Republican party were to hold a Republican activist rally to encourage participation and not to simply beg for money, I would attend that too! It is simply not in their MO. They meet on a Saturday morning once a month at a locall country club! How exciting! Eric have you considered how your post would be recieved had it been published in the WSJ or USA today?

  • noczars

    Eric: I also plan on doing both PLUS. I currently attend or follow Tea Party events: donate what I can to conservative candidates either through Jim DeMints Conservative Fund or The Tea Party: donate time (Chuck DeVore is in my area): watch the only real fair and balanced news @ Fox News and Fox Business, and communicate with my neighbors.