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Billy Graham’s Son Is Too Christian For Barack Obama’s Army

Billy Graham’s son Franklin, a solid evangelist in his own right, was invited to give the address at the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer service.

Barack Obama’s administration has revoked the invitation.

Why? Well, it turns out Franklin Graham really believes in Christ and holds that Christ really is “they way and the truth and the life.”

Consequently, Franklin Graham has spoken out about Islam — the only religion to see its followers carry out violent terrorist attacks on the United States in the name of that religion — and its violent ways.

The Council on Islamic-American Relations and other Islamic groups got upset with Franklin Graham pointing out the truth.

So the Obama Administration caved.

Army spokesman Col. Tom Collins confirmed today, that at the Army’s request, the Pentagon Chaplain’s Office had contacted Graham to withdraw the invitation extended to him to be the main speaker at the Pentagon’s observance of the National Day of Prayer.

You’ll note it says Army. True, but it was Obama appointees who made the call. Let’s not obfuscate whose responsibility it is.

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  • E Pluribus Unum

    Frankly I’m glad in one respect. Interplay with this thugocracy can only stain all that comes in contact with it.

  • http://www.libertytreehugger.com reverelth

    The Military (Christian) Religious Freedom Foundation, who is conspicuous by their cartwheels turned too loudly.

    They claim to want “inclusive” prayer, which is code for *no* prayer.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.combrand/brhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

    Did you get the e-mail sent on Sunday?

  • http://www.barrypopik.com barrypopik

    I was about to post on this. It’s outrageous. Billy Graham was welcomed by every president, Republican and Democrat. His son has the same basic values. If he’s not welcome at a National Prayer Day, no one should be.

    Together with the South Park story, does anyone notice a trend?

    The thuggish CAIR wins again?

    The president should speak up and defend Western values, but he doesn’t. Heck, senators can’t even get information about the Fort Hood shooter.

  • http://www.barrypopik.com barrypopik

    I was about to post on this. It’s outrageous. Billy Graham was welcomed by every president, Republican and Democrat. His son has the same basic values. If he’s not welcome at a National Prayer Day, no one should be.

    Together with the South Park story, does anyone notice a trend?

    The thuggish CAIR wins again?

    The president should speak up and defend Western values, but he doesn’t. Heck, senators can’t even get information about the Fort Hood shooter.

  • izoneguy

    BREAKING NEWS! The spineless and gutless military caved to Hamas tied CAIR. GRAHAM IS DISINVITED:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/04/cairjihad.html

    Hate sponsor CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad said, “Franklin Graham’s appearance [at the Pentagon] has the potential to harm unit cohesion and morale through the promotion of distorted, intolerant and divisive views within military ranks.” Is Awad threatening us with another Major Hasan Fort Hood jihad massacre? There is an implied threat.

    The jihadist infiltrators are feeling emboldened. You ain’t seen nuthin yet, brothers and sisters. The forces of darkness are pressuring the already compromised Pentagon to cancel Franklin Graham. I hope Graham brings recent pictures of all the Christians and Jews murdered at the hands of jihad in Nigeria, Indonesia, Somalia, Lebanon, Israel, Iran, etc., about which CAIR has been diabolically silent.

    It’s OK for hateful and jihadist imams like Johari Abdul-Malik of the 911 terror mosque Dar al-Hijrah to give the opening prayer to the oldest elected state legislature at the state capital in Virginia, and it’s OK that Obama’s inauguration prayer was given by the president of a terror linked organization … but Franklin Graham is the problem?

    Franklin Graham is the solution. I pray he doesn’t submit to Islamic thuggery and supremacism and retract, or that the mighty Pentagon doesn’t quiver, cower, cry and cave to CAIR.

  • conscious

    “Consequently, Franklin Graham has spoken out about Islam ? the only religion to see its followers carry out violent terrorist attacks on the United States in the name of that religion ? and its violent ways.”

    I guess George Tiller’s terrorist murderer wasn’t a Christian?

  • E Pluribus Unum

    A big long note. I’ll double check (yo know email) and resend.

  • http://www.libertytreehugger.com reverelth

    George Tiller’s murderer didn’t have a network of clerics supporting him, who, themselves claimed some imperative to carry out his death by virtue of their speaking for the faith.

  • thomasgipper

    Tiller is a single, isolated nut job. Citing him does not demonstrate a pervasive problem with the pre-dominant judeo-christian culture in this Nation. Go to jihadwatch.com and you’ll see a nice long list of daily mayhem, genital mutilation, bombing, stabbing, mass-murder, of wives, daughters, vacationers, civilians, near home and in far, far away distant lands. Sept. 11 ring a bell? Obviously, there is a pervasive problem with a large number of Islam’s followers, with its culture & religion, which you don’t find in any other religion on the planet. Maybe it’s a cultural problem arising out of the rough dictatorships of the middle east. It may have something to do with the ancient texts encouraging followers to kill non-believers & jews, and encouraging them to lie & deceive non-believers. Oh yes, it’s there. Nothing like that in the New Testament! Clearly life is cheap for the extremists. In any event, Franklin should not have been disinvited by the civilian leadership at the Pentagon — who are cowards. They don’t want to offend by having someone speak who has told the truth? Man up! Confront these people or more innocents are going to die.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    Fact of the matter is that islam has a very militant core, and that militant core is all for the attacks on the US.

    Obama’s god is Politics, Graham’s God is God. The two are not on the same sheet of music, so to speak, nor are they on the same side imo.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    He is considered an aberration, while Jihadis are looked on by many muslims as heros. When the Muslim world is asked to condemn the violent attacks by Jihadists the response is usually cheers for the Jihadis or crickets OR the RARE muslim who speaks up and has to live in fear of being killed – forever. Huge difference between the two and there is no real moral equivalence argument to be made.

  • Doc Holliday
  • holystone

    The difference between a moderate Islamist and a radical Islamist is the timing of your conversion, subjugation or destruction. Accomodation is a bit like the relationship between the turkey and the farmer before Thanksgiving.

  • renny

    along the Hudson and carried on like it was a New Years party.
    But Christians, like Timorthy McVeigh–was he Christian?–are always trotted out as examples of the horrors Christians perpetuate once a quarter century, while Muslims massacre around the world daily in “defense” of their religion of peace.
    We should all mob NBC over the Southpartk decision. Caving on the 1st Amend. due to Muslim threats is a bad sign in Europe but a disaster here.

  • spepper

    this action by the Obama Administration, along with the fact that in the Obamacare regulations that excuse Muslims from participating, should leave no doubt of the bias that currently resides at 1600 Penn. Ave.– and please call out every politician as to where they stand on these Obama policies, come November……

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    !

  • mbecker908

    Religion of Peace…

    Or Not…

    I’m voting “Not”.

  • Kudzu

    I disagree with you and I’m insulted and offended in one respect.

    WE ARE NOT OBAMA’S ARMY.

    We didn’t like it when leftists called us Bush’s army and we object to being called Obama’s army. While I understand your point but we serve one master and that is ultimately you and the other Americans who employ the Legislative and Executive branches. We are your army…. your Defense Department, don’t denigrate us as belonging to a single president.

    On to the actual point. I will say that more needs to be looked at how DoD civilian leadership played a role in this. More than likely Mr. Graham was invited by a chaplain (a commissioned officer) as I have seen other Christian ministers invited for local events on post. When someone in the Army G1 (the General level staff element that the Chaplains Corps falls under) saw the invitation or heard of it their leftist/politically correct dictum took over and raised holy hell about it. I would be hard pressed to find a Christian Army chaplain who would object to what Mr. Graham’s speech would of been: one of faith, charity, compassion, and prayer for our brothers and sisters in service.

    So… I would ask that you refrain from calling us Obama’s army… especially when fewer than 30% probably voted for the guy and our oath is to the Constitution, not a man.

  • republichic

    It’s not like we didn’t see this coming. Our President sympathizes and is protecting Muslims in various aspects. Rev Graham is completely right with his comments; however, the very few Muslims who serve in our military have accomplished another win by disallowing Rev Graham from speaking. I totally disagree with Muslims serving in our armed forces. The majority of soldiers should be the focus when it comes to prayer. The fact that Obama will allow this to happen should be a dire warning to Americans. Bertha Lewis with ACORN, stated Americans are going to be treated to internment such as that in WWII. Now, exactly what does that mean? Could it be if you do not adhere to Obama’s socialist programs, you will be subject to internment by the Government. Who will be the majority rule during such an event? Will Muslims have the authority rule in our Country? Will the fact that you are branded a Christian you are subject to Government intervention. We don’t know, but our President is exhibiting a preference for Muslims that can’t be ignored. The fact that they have been excluded from fines and further action if they do not have medical insurance is proving the words coming from the right. I don’t care what the Muslims think or want or object to. They have no rights, yet Obama and his extreme agenda allows them to dictate, as if they ruled America. There is something really bad about the whole situation and I suspect there’s a lot of information not being told truthfully from the White House. Imagine that!

  • conscious

    network was the Army of God.

    How many ways can you not call terrorism what it is?

  • justfedup

    I seem to remember a reported comment during the primaries by the anointed one that said that he would side with Muslims. Then there was “America is not a Christian nation”. Let’s not forget he stated, “America was a large Muslim nation”. Wasn’t the anointed one missing last year for The National Day of Prayer. Sounds like the anointed one IS advocating a specific religion. Where is the ACLU? There was also a comment about shutting down the coal industry. I’m just saying.

  • conscious

    Many Christians look upon his killer as a hero.
    Many Muslims look upon the 9/11 terrorists as heroes.

    That doesn’t mean they are right, That doesn’t mean the majority do.

    You are ignoring the evidence that both religions have their good and bad aspects. Moreover, you only see the bad aspects of Islam, a religion that recognizes Jesus as Messiah.

    For every instance of a Christian supporting Tiller’s murderer, you can find one condemning it. The same goes for terrorism conducted by Muslims, for instance:

    “We are completely shocked. It’s unbelievable. We completely condemn this very dangerous attack, and I convey my condolences to the American people, to the American President and to the American Administration, not only in my name but on behalf of the Palestinian people.” -Yasser Arafat

    Might I also refer you to Muhammad Tahir ul Qadri, who has recently issued an anti-terrorism fatwa.

    Getting angry at Islam only plays into the hands of those who want to see you angry at Islam. Osama bin Laden would love all the proof he can get to paint America as anti-Islam

  • renny

    Dreams of My Father, or whatever.

    As to the coal industry, it povides 50% of our electricity, and even little o would get some pushback there.

  • Russ Martin

    1. Gen. Casey is concerned about the loss of “diversity” after the Ft. Hood terrorist shootings.
    2. The disturbing lack of pushback on “Don’t ask, don’t tell”.
    3. One of our nation’s best-known Christian evangelists disinvited from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer service.

    Unfortunately, the upper echelons of the military appear to be just as political as the rest of Washington. One would think that some of them would simply resign in protest.

  • Russ Martin

    1. Gen. Casey is concerned about the loss of “diversity” after the Ft. Hood terrorist shootings.
    2. The disturbing lack of pushback on “Don’t ask, don’t tell”.
    3. One of our nation’s best-known Christian evangelists disinvited from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer service.

    Unfortunately, the upper echelons of the military appear to be just as political as the rest of Washington. One would think that some of them would simply resign in protest.

  • Old_Crow

    1. The Fort Hood shooting cover-up.
    2. Repealing the invite for Franklin Graham because of a fringe group complaint.
    The actions speak, or more correctly shout the reality.

  • Achance

    It is your illustrious communist President that cannot call terrorism what it is, so a lefty coming here and lecturing about terrorism is at the least audacious. Islam is an evil and violent cult that happens to have sane and well-meaning people who live under governments that abide by its dictates. Were Islam separated from state power and processes, its practice would dramatically moderate and in all probability it would disappear in a few generations; very few of the 8th Century’s beliefs and practices have survived elsewhere in the World

  • Achance

    Perhaps before this term is out and certainly before a second term is out should he get one, you will be confronted with a stark choice; you will have to follow an order that you are morally certain is unconstitutional or accept a court martial or worse. He’s had time now to vett the senior leadership of the military. With time, all officers above the company level will have been politically vetted for loyalty to the regime or denied promotion or forced our.

    My son’s active duty tour was ending in September of ’08 and I very actively encouraged him not to re-enlist so that he would not have to serve under a communist CIC. Nothing has happened to make me change my mind or regret the influence I exercised over my son.

  • iluvit

    This is the email address for the Chief communications office of the Secretary of the Army. OAACommunicationsPOC@conus.army.mil

    Conscious, you need to read a bit about Muslim history. And buy the way, have you not noticed that every major war and terror center in the worls involves Islam.
    The left believes that tolerance only extends to those who agree with their ideology. They hate anyone who speaks the plain truth.

    Truth is that Muhammad was one of the greatest scam artists in history.

  • angryred

    Do you all know about this? It is Franklin Grahams charity; our girl scouts put shoe boxes of toys and goodies together at Christmas time. It is distributed by his group to children AROUND THE GLOBE. It is a way to spread Christianity. The children as asked to come to a church or gathering place where they can get the little gifts, as well as literature about Jesus, and hear more about him.

    Now, this is a wonderful thing Mr. Graham does. They distribute these gifts in almost every country in the world; some they can’t even mention in their literature for fear of the government.

    My husband points out that Mr. Graham is spreading the word through gifts, while those who are militant spread theirs by blowing themselves up.

    God bless this man. Shame on them for uninviting him. Shame indeed.

  • incumbentrant

    but, it may be too little, too late. Seems the Pentagon has already rescinded the invitation to Reverend Graham.

    With all the “inclusiveness” going on out there, you’d think for instance, the KAs could have their Confederate days, or at least acknowledge their history…guess that’s a little too much…wonder what would be said about a United Caucasian College Fund?…although I don’t know what that has to do with CAIR…just
    ranting…

  • Kudzu

    Your delussions are the very same that leftists threw at us for 8 years of Bush about loyalty and politically coreectness. It doesn’t hold much water and you only harm us with you divisive remarks that push an already disconnected militarty from its citizenry.

    While Obama is the CINC, we are not his Army. I have served for over 10 years and part of that was under Clinton so were we “his” Army then too? Get the point, we are your Army, Navy, Air Force and Marin Corps. Our oath is to the Constituion and to follow the lawful orders of the National Command Authority. Don’t start w/ birther crap but defend your hypocrisy: were we Bush’s army? We’re too stupid right? Get stuck in Iraq? Can’t read?

    I won’t go into a discussion of what order is legal or illegal here but a choice not to obey an order is immensly personal and serious. So don’t pretend to say that I’ll face such a decision in the future, I’ve already seen two tours to two separate war zones.

  • conscious

    You have not rebutted my point that Christianity and Islam both have nutjobs, These nutjobs make up a small percentage of believers.

    Scott Roeder, George Tiller’s murderer, committed political violence and terrorism. He was a Christian, just as George Tiller was a Christian.

    Mohammad Atta, who crashed a plane into one of the Twin Towers, committed political violence and terrorism. He was a Muslim, just like the Muslims on 9/11.

    Until you realize that Islam is not at war with us, and until you end your war against Islam, I’m not going to be quiet.

    Rushing to judgment never helped anyone. We must realize that those who want to kill us and those that practice a religion different from ours are not one and the same thing.

  • MF

    Islam, a religion that recognizes Jesus as Messiah.

    Bzzt. Try again. Islam believes that Jesus was a prophet (one among many), not the one and only Messiah. Huge difference.

    For every instance of a Christian supporting Tiller?s murderer, you can find one condemning it.

    Not even close. There are a small minority of people (note that I’m not using the term ‘Christian’) who support Tiller’s murderer. However, there is a large majority who condemn his murderer’s actions.

    I would claim any real Christian would instead be glad, as I am, that Tiller is no longer able to murder babies, but be in strong opposition to the way in which it occurred.

  • conscious

    Surah 3:40: “When the angels said, ‘Mary, God gives thee good tidings of a Word from Him whose name is Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary; high honored shall he be in this world and the next, near stationed to God.

    Jesus is called the Messiah in the Koran. No one else is. I challenge you to prove me wrong

    You are completely misunderstanding and taking out of context “For every instance of a Christian supporting Tiller?s murderer, you can find one condemning it.”.

    The vast majority of Christians condemn violence. The same is true of Islam.

    There is a minority population of Muslims that are at war with Christianity, just as there is a minority population of Christians at war with Islam.

    The minority does not characterize the majority. Islamophobia is not going to save anyone’s life.

  • WoodstockRedCat

    Many Christians look upon his killer as a hero.

    Really? Really?
    Would you find me the blogs that celebrated Tiller’s killer instead of clearly saying that voilence was never an ends to this issue?
    Would you find me the sermons preached praising a killer?

    On the other hand, finding Muslim sermons praising killers isn’t very difficult. Nor is the protection racket of the mercy killings that are happening at an alarming rate (1 is too many) in this country.

    Your brush is too broad, thin the strokes.

  • irishgirl

    I am also familiar with this and Samaritan’s Purse is an excellent organization.
    It is unbelieveable that Rev. Graham was uninvited. May God help us.

  • reaganomics

    a) Tiller’s murderer was NOT attacking the United States as a nation, he was attacking one individual.

    b) The Army of God’s writings don’t contain elaborate legal reasoning like Islamic fatwas do. They contain verses cherry-picked to “prove” the “conclusion” that Jesus wants us to be violent.

    c) You’re completely clueless about what kind of person Yassir Arafat was and have clearly never paid attention to the things he said in Arabic to his own people.

    d) Your cheap moral relativism “Christianity and Islam both have nutjobs, These nutjobs make up a small percentage of believers” says nothing. What matters is that Islamic nutjobs are often supported. Christian nutjobs are shunned. No one’s giving a $25,000 bounty to Scott Roeder’s family, are they?

    e) It’s a matter of degree. How many abortion providers have been killed since 1993? NARAL’s only claiming 8. Add in the lady that Eric Rudolph killed at the ’96 Olympics and you still don’t have to start counting the number of “Christianist” victims on your toes. Do you seriously want to argue that Islamist terrorism isn’t thousands of times bigger a threat than that?

  • Old_Crow

    Obama has politicized the military and many senior leaders in uniform have gone alone, whether for careerist reasons or ideological – it matters not.
    It is now Obama’s army. Just like it’s Obama’s GM

  • conscious

    “Would you find me the blogs that celebrated Tiller?s killer instead of clearly saying that voilence was never an ends to this issue?”

    http://www.armyofgod.com/

    Wasn’t very difficult at all.

    It appears that many here support calling Islam a violent cult. Talk about broad generalizationg…

    I am a trying to point out both Christianity and Islam have their problems.

    Please remember Matthew 7:3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

  • Kudzu

    Casey’s desire to toe a politically correct line comes from his position as a four star general in charge of a very diverse employer. He has to maintain leadership above all else and encourage an army to support its nation and vice versa. He is also held accountable to the Secretary of Defense and ultimately the President… can’t just tell the guy to go “F” himself.

  • Kudzu

    So the thought among you and your kind is that the military, the most highly trained and effective in the history of man, are “Obama’s men”… including myself?

    So what would you like for us to do? Quit? Leave? Coup? Hmm… solutions. You got a problem, offer a solution.

    Seems like some readers here have turned their backs on their own military. Just remember that next time you see a Soldier or Marine… you come up to one of us who’ve served in multiple tours overseas and call us “Obama’s man” just like the leftists did under Bush’s years. Please do… turn your back on us. Keep your “thanks”, remove the yellow ribbon sticker you have, stop saying you “support the troops”, just stop.

    Turn your back on us and give us a CINC who does not respect us. Give us a CINC who does not weld us responsibly. Just because you know, we’re “Obamas Army”… right? Screw the military you’ll say, they should of done something, right?

    Umm we depend on people like you to provide us with a government and specifically a President that follows the Constitution. We are controled by a civilian leadership, not the generals when it comes to several of these matters that you point out here. Namely in that they are all politically correct and have very little to do with how we do our two most importat tasks of deterring and waging war. Nevermind how Obaama’s actual policies have affected us downrange and we object, you choose to focus on politically appointed generals and civilian leadership to beat us over the backs with and call us “Obama’s Army”.

    Keep your “appreciation” you gave us for eight years, spare me.

  • Kudzu

    Politicize the military? What do you think you do when you call us “Obamas Army” think of that

  • smorgasbord

    When you look at it from Obama’s point of view it all makes sense. He wants to be king, not president. He can’t be king in a republic (we are not a democracy). Obama bows to dictator leaders and shuns free world leaders.

    We always try to do things that hinder our enemies and help our friends. More and more Obama is showing us who HIS friends are and who HIS enemies are.

  • Achance

    Since you’re in the Army and you are obligated to follow orders, you are obligated to follow the orders of the people authorized to give the orders. Comrade Obama is authorized by “the People” to give you orders and you will either follow those orders or face the consequences.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/6972990.html

    Thank you.
    ColdWarrior, PC
    Conservatives, UNITE! CHANGE the Republican Party and the world by UNITING INSIDE the Party as precinct committeemen. NOW!

  • wannabeanncoulter

    Billy Graham is a much more inclusive minister than his son. Franklin Graham, perhaps sincerely or perhaps just to distinguish himself from his father and thus pursue a different audience, is divisive. The father is who he is; the son is who he is. Billy Graham never would have been booted from a military prayer day. Franklin is of a different generation….

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    the same can be said for Islam’s view of non-Muslims. It considers them infidels.

    Amazingly, most ministers of different religions understand this and don’t take offense.

    more later

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    see more here

    http://gamecock.blogtownhall.com/2008/02/27/obamas_minister_lives_in_chicago_so_will_obama_next_february.thtml

  • hickorystick

    how can you be more inclusive than that?

  • wannabeanncoulter

    Now that I’ve thought it over some more, why should the military have some high-profile religious figure to preside over its National Day of Prayer events? Why not draw upon the many, many wonderful military chaplains already in service and choose several for the honor?

  • wannabeanncoulter

    Now that I’ve thought it over some more, why should the military have some high-profile religious figure to preside over its National Day of Prayer events? Why not draw upon the many, many wonderful military chaplains already in service and choose several for the honor?

  • Read Chesterton

    There is a minority population of Muslims that are at war with Christianity, just as there is a minority population of Christians at war with Islam.

    Forgive us for not taking your logic seriously. To match each lone Christian nutjob for a corresponding Islamist nutjob is a trick, a tactic meant to divert attention away from the clear, organized pattern that is Islamic terrorism in the world. And let’s not even delve into the leftist apologies for all things anti-Christian, anti-American, and anti-Israel. There is simply no parallel to that evil on the right, that goes double for the Christian right.

    I’ll see your Osama bin Laden and raise you a Mother Theresa.

    I’ll see your blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahmanand and raise you a Billy Graham.

    I’ll see your Ayatollah Khomeini and raise you a John Paul II.

    I’ll see your Muslims dancing in the streets on 9/11 and raise you the Americans protesting the murder of Iranian citizens who dared to demand the freedom that is every man’s God-given birthright.

    There simply are no positive examples of modern Muslim culture and leadership to parallel those of modern Christian culture and leadership. This is an indisputable fact. For that matter, where is the Muslim Augustine, the Muslim Aquinas, or Muslim Francis of Assisi in Middle Eastern culture to bridge Islam to the modern world? Where are all of those Muslim theologians decrying the homicide bombers and the calls for the destruction of Israel? They would be all over the liberal media if, indeed, they existed.

    You didn’t expect to come to RedState and get away with sophomoric argument by false moral equivalence, did you? Silly.

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    Islamic Jihadists are not just at war with Christians, they routinely kill Jews, Buddhists, Hindu’s, and differing sects of Muslims as well.

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    and you have nothing of value to add. Simply put, to draw any parallels between the organized and incessant violence and expansionism of radicalized Islam and any other religion is pure drivel.

  • JSobieski

    but your point is nonetheless irrelevant in terms of public policy. Yes, there nuts on all sides of all issues and always will be, but that doesn’t stop the US from, for example, choosing the side of the UK in WWII even though some people in the UK were lying scumbags and even though many people in the “Nazi” party weren’t true believers.

    Look at the links below, and the numbers are actually quite alarming:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/2461830/Killing-for-religion-is-justified-say-third-of-Muslim-students.html

    http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=170502&bolum=100

    http://ispu.org/pdfs/detriot_mosque_2.pdf

    People who commit violence in the name of Islam quote specifically from their religious texts.

    Can anyone point to any example of a “Christian” murderer who cites bible passages as justification for their actions?

    The primary similarity between Christianity and Islam is that both religious hold up the life of a single person as being “the” example of how to live.

    The life of Jesus and the life of Muhammed couldn’t have been more different. Nobody can commit murder in the name of Jesus because Jesus never killed anyone, took slaves, etc.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
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  • janis

    What a nasty little thing it was. And now what a quiet little thing it is.

  • Doc Holliday

    now youse can’t go away

  • Kudzu

    For not agreeing with the term “Obama’s Army”… again, you utterly fail to get the idea. But thank, I know what to expect from you here.

    And don’t dare tell me what my oath means.

  • holystone

    Krishna was being interviewed by a religion reporter about the path to enlightenment and heaven. This interview took place in heaven which resided at the top of a mountain. As the two looked down the mountain they saw many many people struggling up the mountain sometimes sliding back but scrabbling for every handhold on the mountain to make their way to the top. They all followed similar and different paths up the slopes. The interviewer noticed many people that were going in circles around the mountain and asked Krishna who they were and what they thought they were accomplishing. Krishna smiled indulgently and sadly and informed the reporter that these were the proselytizers of the various paths ernestly trying to convince the other travelers that their path was the best and only path to heaven. They would spend enternity going round and round the mountain and would never get any closer to their ultimate goal. We may all have faith in our particular paths but we all must have respect for each other and the right to a choice that is embodied in the First Amendment of our Constitution. While it is a fact that Islam has yet to experience an enlightenment like the Christ figure that brought a humanitarian advancement, in some peoples’ opinion, to the vengenful, cruel and angry God of the Old Testament, it is to be respected as a living religion and that there are people of that religion that wish it to evolve beyond it’s desert warrior roots. When Mr. Graham displays a highly critical intolerance for Islam he puts himself in a category of being a controversial figure rather than a tolerant and inclusive figure and thus runs the risk of becoming a lightening rod. As a divisive figure he then puts the military leadership in the position of having to be thinking arbiters the conflict and that is not the strength of any bueraucrat. Thus they all ran for the cover of “political correctness” to cover their collective careers given the current political environment as established by this White House. The truth is that our transformational President who was to be the definition of post-racial, post-divisive, and post-religious bigotry politics has failed all of us and is, as others have noted, just another Chicago politician who thrives on and lives the politics of divisiveness.

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    I can respect people of good will no matter what their religion or if no religion. But It is difficult to respect a anti-humane, anti-woman, xenophobic, violent, dark age cult.

    It was founded by a violent man, and it spread through conquest. Those are simple facts and no intolerance is necessary to point them out.

  • alancj

    I totally agree and I see Southpark pattern.