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“Be A North Carolinian”

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  April 28th, 2010 at 03:26 PM  | 

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At least the Democrats are giving us a preview of what is in store should Dan Coats win the Indiana Republican Primary.

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  • http://gooberment.blogspot.com gooberment

    You criticized Coats in a post for allegedly “repackaging” an endorsement of Mike Pence. Even though Pence ACTUALLY DID ENDORSE COATS on 4/21, you didn’t bother to retract your allegation.

    And now — LOL!!! — you “repackage” a video of Coats that was released at the beginning of February and act like it’s news to us today: (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/05/coats-north-carolinas-a-better-place-than-indiana/).

    Give me a break, man. It’s obvious you have a bone to pick with the NRSC and Coats, but you’re looking more and more like Captain Ahab all the time.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Coats will be the nominee. Let the Democrats trash the man and stop doing their dirty work for them.

  • Doc Holliday
  • http://gooberment.blogspot.com gooberment

    Because that’s what you’re going to get if Stutzman is the nominee.

  • IJB
  • rightwingmom52

    with the NRSC, especially after Crist, Spectre, etc.?

  • http://ruminationsaspirations.blogspot.com jonbingham

    goober,
    You may have a legit beef about a few items out of Erick’s zeal for this cause, but I have to tell you – you’re smoking something strange with this last statement. Only a serious case of inside-the-beltway-itis gets you that whopperful of this initial-name-ID-based nonsense.
    Stutzman will have an EASIER time against Ellsworth than Coats will.
    Coats = Washington background, NC leanings on video, last century’s Senator = no inspiration of the grassroots in the Fall. He will be seen as just another Senate Republican – that ain’t the solution people are looking for.
    Stutzman brings both the perception and the reality of a new, Hoosier-based, solid conservative without all the baggage and age of Coats.
    Supporting Coats aborts the strongest conservative choice.
    If you can’t support the rising new conservative in the environment of 2010, then when can you ever do anything other than same-old same-old?
    Get better vision and perspective. 2010 should not be squandered on a retread. Stutzman wins easy, Coats wins ugly.

  • http://gooberment.blogspot.com gooberment

    Plus, Indiana is a purplish state right now. Daniels isn’t popular because he’s a right-winger; he’s popular because he’s center-right and smart as hell. Coats will appeal more to the Ds and Is.

    You’re not from Indiana, are you?

  • texasgalt

    Coats just will not fess up on his personal financial disclosure that is now 3 weeks overdue. Take a look what the Dems are saying and the videos they are putting out on Coats. It isn’t pretty. It’s deadly.

    It should be over for Coats but he’s loaning his campaign money and running to Coburn for help. Meanwhile, Marlon has raised 200K with a little help from DeMint.

    There’s no runoff here. Hostettler is broke. Coats is hiding. Stutzman can surge to a majority at the end and win. If he can do it, it’s one less good ole boy to hang with Mitch.

  • randd

    We have an opportunity this Tuesday, May 4th, to reshape the future of our country. People are tired of what’s been exposed in DC politics. That association and the sudden apprearance Mr. Coats right around the time Bayh resigned, makes it appear as the national groups thought they had a better idea for Indiana than what Indiana does. There are a lot of good people that we’re grateful for their service, but this election is about what the people want for Indiana and our country. We need people that are determined to avoid the past politics and policies that can contaminate the best intentions. We believe that Marlin Stutzman has that determination. It’s part of the reason he’s running. He wants to be a part of the solution to save our vunerable Republic. He’s also the right person to face Ellsworth or anyone else that’s participated in the DC freight train. GoMarlin.com

  • http://ruminationsaspirations.blogspot.com jonbingham

    “You?re not from Indiana, are you?” Is that a question for me or for Coats?!? Funny!

    If you see IN as purplish in 2010, worry about whether someone is a “right-winger” and think you know how to “appeal more to the Ds and Is,” you’ve got a Lindsey Graham-ish orientation (I would say McCain-ish, but he’s stuck in a primary right now so his colors have changed for the moment). No wonder you have a vision/perspective problem.

    In your world, supporting Reagan meant a Carter 2nd term, but Bush would have defeated Carter. How could Reagan ever appeal to Ds and Is?

    Thanks for demonstrating the Beltway Republican mentality.

  • http://gooberment.blogspot.com gooberment

    LOL!!!

    Coats was and is a Reagan conservative. You do know that Reagan supported the Brady Bill, don’t you? And yet you and others on here tell us to support Marlin over Coats because Coats voted for BB. So WHO has the perpective problem here??

    What do you say about Marlin and his family farm accepting hundreds of thousands in taxpayer subsidies? I certainly don’t think he’s a “McCain” Republican for having done so, but how can YOU reconcile that fact with the standard you’ve used to judge Coats? You can’t.

    Mike Pence, Fred Thompson, James Dobson, and Bill Bennett have endorsed Coats. Why can’t you accept that the guy is a SOLID CONSERVATIVE? Apparently you know Dan much better than those guys, huh?

  • http://gooberment.blogspot.com gooberment

    And Bayh never “resigned.” He’s still casting votes for the Ds as we speak!

  • redtillimdead

    If the Democrats thought Dan Coats would be easier to beat than Marlin Stutzman, they wouldn’t be attacking Coats. Stutzman will not beat Elsworth with the amount of money he is raising.

  • http://gooberment.blogspot.com gooberment

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  • randd

    You are right, that was the wrong verb for Bayh’s decision not to run for the senate again. I didn”t remember if it was before or after, so I said around the time. You are right on with what Bayh’s doing now and who knows about the future. Check the web site thirdway.com (it may be .org)
    Not trying to bash Coats. He did good things, tried to do even more good things, but also did some things not so conservative.
    We’re Marlin Stutzman supporters because we believe he’s right on all the issues, a fourth generation hoosier farrmer and family man, and he has a patriotic mission to help save our Republic.
    Thanks for the post!

  • http://gooberment.blogspot.com gooberment

    As I’ve always said, he’s a heck of a guy with a very bright future. I’m for Coats, but we certainly shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that we’re on the same team here. Good luck next week and God bless.

  • http://ruminationsaspirations.blogspot.com jonbingham

    The argument is a bit deeper than that – which I thought you would be able to understand. Simply, the conventional wisdom at the time was that Reagan wouldn’t attract Is and Ds. Hmmmm…
    Look, Coats is a nice enough fellow. He will be supported here if he gets the nod (though without enthusiasm – he won’t generate enthusiasm). But what a lost opportunity that will be for IN’s future because the old guard doesn’t understand the opportunity at hand.
    Thompson – old guard – not surprised
    Dobson – old guard – not surprised
    Bennett – old guard – not surprised
    Pence – playing it safe – disappointing

    At this point, I trust DeMint to know what is needed more than these.

  • IJB

    How much money a candidate can raise in a contested Primary will have almost *no* correlation with how much they can raise in a General.

    Implying otherwise is just silly.

  • http://ruminationsaspirations.blogspot.com jonbingham

    …they had a mandate for their leftward lurch.
    …HCR passage would give them a boost in the polls.
    Washington-bubble thinking infects both parties. Not to be relied upon in 2010.

  • http://ruminationsaspirations.blogspot.com jonbingham

    …

  • http://gooberment.blogspot.com gooberment

    Reagan was a former union leader who had a good deal of Hollywood behind him and had won statewide in a left-leaning state. What about that says he can’t attract Is and Ds??

    If Thompson and Bennett are “old guard,” isn’t Mark Levin “old guard” too? And Mike Huckabee, since he just endorsed Marlin (RINO ALERT!!).

    I understand the criticisms against Coats, and I accept that he’s not perfect. I just don’t understand why so many on here trash Coats and then act like Marlin doesn’t suffer from some deficiencies too. If people support Marlin, great, but don’t tear up a good conservative and a good man in the process.

  • http://gooberment.blogspot.com gooberment

    Hmmm….

  • http://ruminationsaspirations.blogspot.com jonbingham

    He was perceived by the play-it-safe Rs as risky/too conservative in that race. Surely you recall the Reagan – Bush contrast… Your initial logic for how to attract Ds and Is leans Bushward, not Reaganward. It is what gave us McCain in 2008.

    It is not merely age – it is vision.
    Thompson and Bennett are nice men, but Thompson (unfortunately) proved not to be broadly inspirational in 2008 [I wanted him to catch fire, by the way] and Bennett is Mr. Cabinet Member, not Mr. Campaign Guru. But we can certainly agree about Huckabee – he’s an opportunist, not a conservative. Anybody but Huckabee in 2012!

    I, too, understand that Marlin is not perfect. Who is? We’re all human. I just wish people would quit looking at things like it is 2006 or 2008. 2010 presents opportunities we do not always have. Why do you think Bayh ran for the hills? You’re missing the movement.

    If Bayh were in the running, I could see a stronger argument for needing Coats’ initial name ID in order to prevail. But this is an open race – and it is 2010. One better than Coats is here for this time and circumstance – and for much longer impact in the future.

    If you notice, I have not taken all of the positions you have ascribed to me. You might recall my “legit beef” comment early on. I’m sure we’ll get along better later.

    In the meantime, I have no apetite for Beltway-Republican-play-it-safe argumentation. That thinking is what got us where we are today.

  • http://ruminationsaspirations.blogspot.com jonbingham

    Should expectations of early money attraction be identical for high name ID Coats and low name ID Stutzman?
    Thou doth protest too much.

  • randd

    And God bless you, too.