“The NRA has never supported — nor would we ever support — any version of this bill. Those who suggest otherwise are wrong. ”

“I can assure you that I would never countenance a “deal” of the sort you think the NRA made with Congress to further Democratic attempts to restrict political speech. I consider such restrictions to be not only repugnant, but blatantly unconstitutional, an opinion shared by NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and Institute for Legislative Action Executive Director Chris Cox…

“…Last week Democratic leadership in the House capitulated by agreeing to exempt the NRA from the act — not in return for NRA support, but to avoid a political war that might cost them even more seats this fall.

“I have to tell you that I never thought the Democrats would agree to this — not because they have much regard for constitutional rights — because I didn’t believe their left wing would allow it. The events since their capitulation convince me that their fear of NRA retaliation forced them to take steps that split their coalition and could easily doom the whole bill.” – David Keene, NRA First Vice-President

I’m not saying I agree about it either way, as I don’t know enough about the issue, but I thought everyone should at least hear their words before attacking them. We must be EXTREMELY careful to sever support and ties to those that further our cause. “United we stand, divided we fall.” We will lose when we start fighting amongst ourselves.

I think the NRA has earned a lot of our support over the years and they should be given more opportunity to explain themselves because of that trust. So, rather thank just taking a tidbit of news someone heard somewhere and running with it, I think we should get information from both sides before discrediting either.

Since we (groups) are all connected and inter-twined, are are of these groups now the same? I think not, in fact we are all out for the same thing!

It all depends on how you look at the glass on things – you know: Is it half full or half empty!

Then there’s all the other groups to pop in on like GOA, the Sportsmans Federation and all like groups to see that we are all working on the same thing.

Don’t start th bickering amongst ourselves for that is what the opposition wants!

If this were true, you would not have made this ignorant statement above: “when a groups sole purpose is one thing, such as defending our right to arms”

Quit lying. You know nothing of the NRA.

The NRA doesn’t have a sole purpose. It does have a SINGULAR political issue which is the Second Amendment , not the First.

Funny, so many others on this site and many other sites have the same or close to the same opinion as me. And being that I have been a NRA member for most likely longer than you have been speaking, was president of a local NRA chartered group, and until recently, was a very vocal supporter of the NRA, I do not need you to teach me anything about the group. You can continue your tirade in an attempt to be the internet big man, I will move on to those who are actually intellectually big men and women. But feel free to continue in your internet pissing contest to prove yourself if you are so inclined to do so!

That kind of thing is troublesome to me, a lifelong NRA member.

Why was that? One reason was probably to punish Hostettler for shutting down the Clinton & Wesson deals of the 90′s, which were basically a sneaky way for the Clinton administration to use its awarding of government contracts to manipulate gun manufacturers into making guns according to the “safety” standards that the administration was not able to succeed at getting passed legislatively. But Smith & Wesson was a big beneficiary of that move by the Clinton administration, so they didn’t like Hostettler’s meddling. And when push comes to shove, the NRA answers to the big gun manufactures, not the Constitution.

I believe the NRA is salvageable, but it requires that all members call them on the carpet when they make a bad decision.

On the whole, they do more good than harm, but they do need to be chastised occasionally.

So, you obviously didn’t go look at NRA.org or read any of the other posts choosing to remain ignorant. That choice makes you stupid.(Stupid people like to remain ignorant, it suits their personas.)

As for me, I’m a multi-tasker. I can tell people they’re ignorant and stupid to their face while pissing on their leg. It gives them such a warm feeling.

Now run along, there is another chapter of Bartlett’s you need to read.

Time and again, Ted’s put in anti-gun politicians into positions of power here in the Buckeye State. The current Lieutenant Governor, Lee Fisher, has actually said that he’s not seen a gun control bill he hasn’t liked. His current running mate, Yvette McGee-Brown, has said that she disagrees with Ted about guns (and is therefore anti-gun). The list goes on and on. Check it out at http://www.turnaroundted.com/nra

It’s absolutely ridiculous!

That said, if this doesn’t damage the NRA’s credibility, their endorsement of Harry Reid over Angle does. Wow.

Who they endorse does not matter, they still have become puppets. The union has endorsed republicans, many groups who are crap have endorsed republicans, And since all dems step in line with the agenda of Obama, Reid, an Pelosi, why are they endorsing dems even 1% of the time when dems want guns and such limited as much as possible or even banned?

And all their other ventures, buying land for conservation/hunting, funding campaigns, etc etc still have always boiled down to protection of our right to have guns and use them. And with many of their latest decisions, endorsements, and partisan politics, they have stopped being who they were founded to be.

And your PS, I know you think your envision line is the most original thing, and that your steak name is just the bomb, but don’t worry about what I and many others put in their sig line. Not that I have any reason to explain it to you, but I have had my own original lines, switch it often, and this time decided to mimic the many others on here and give honor to the men and women we respect. Don’t like it or my post, move on and read someone who you do like. Just as easy as that steak man!

Let us know how your fare being tough in real life!