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	<title>Comments on: Will The House GOP Break Apart the GOP-Tea Party Coalition</title>
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		<title>By: capeconservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>capeconservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 01:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[leadership positions - perhaps they do know what they are doing, but for some reason I am skeptical about believing them when they say they will HOLD FIRM on the issues that sent CONSERVATIVES to the polls in record numbers.

We do NOT want compromise with a party who has REFUSED for the past four years to even acknowledge there were ideas from &#039;the other side&#039; of the aisle!!!!!!

We DO want TOTAL REPEAL of Obamacare - it is NOT constitutional!  We do NOT want 1 page of those 2,700 pages in that bill to stay in effect!!!!  NOT ONE!

We DO want every bill offered for a vote to INCLUDE the CONSTITUTIONAL reference for its passage - if it can&#039;t, it won&#039;t get a vote, plain and simple!

We do NOT want earmarks - NOT ONE!

We DO want the current tax rates made permanent - until a Fair Tax can be implemented that would ensure that every person and every entity paid their &#039;fair share&#039; and NO MORE!

We DO want an immediate reduction of 10% ACROSS THE BOARD, through every agency!
 
We DO want a BALANCED BUDGET bill

We DO want ALL spending trimmed - NO MORE frivolous &#039;studies/grants&#039; to look into the effects of marijuana on the sexual activity of college students...or the sex habits of frogs!

We do NOT want card check

We do NOT want cap &amp; trade

We do NOT want to have world government dictate to the UNITED STATES of AMERICA

We DO want a LIMITED government as prescribed by our founding fathers

Is there a leader in the House &amp; Senate who will PROMISE TO STAY TRUE TO THESE CONSERVATIVE VALUES??????????

It&#039;s time to vote in NEW STRONG LEADERS who will listen to We the People!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leadership positions &#8211; perhaps they do know what they are doing, but for some reason I am skeptical about believing them when they say they will HOLD FIRM on the issues that sent CONSERVATIVES to the polls in record numbers.</p>
<p>We do NOT want compromise with a party who has REFUSED for the past four years to even acknowledge there were ideas from &#8216;the other side&#8217; of the aisle!!!!!!</p>
<p>We DO want TOTAL REPEAL of Obamacare &#8211; it is NOT constitutional!  We do NOT want 1 page of those 2,700 pages in that bill to stay in effect!!!!  NOT ONE!</p>
<p>We DO want every bill offered for a vote to INCLUDE the CONSTITUTIONAL reference for its passage &#8211; if it can&#8217;t, it won&#8217;t get a vote, plain and simple!</p>
<p>We do NOT want earmarks &#8211; NOT ONE!</p>
<p>We DO want the current tax rates made permanent &#8211; until a Fair Tax can be implemented that would ensure that every person and every entity paid their &#8216;fair share&#8217; and NO MORE!</p>
<p>We DO want an immediate reduction of 10% ACROSS THE BOARD, through every agency!</p>
<p>We DO want a BALANCED BUDGET bill</p>
<p>We DO want ALL spending trimmed &#8211; NO MORE frivolous &#8216;studies/grants&#8217; to look into the effects of marijuana on the sexual activity of college students&#8230;or the sex habits of frogs!</p>
<p>We do NOT want card check</p>
<p>We do NOT want cap &amp; trade</p>
<p>We do NOT want to have world government dictate to the UNITED STATES of AMERICA</p>
<p>We DO want a LIMITED government as prescribed by our founding fathers</p>
<p>Is there a leader in the House &amp; Senate who will PROMISE TO STAY TRUE TO THESE CONSERVATIVE VALUES??????????</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to vote in NEW STRONG LEADERS who will listen to We the People!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: capeconservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>capeconservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 01:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[come up with is the CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVE CAUCUS!  

I&#039;m happy to hear that she will be there for the new class - the last thing I wanted to hear was when Eric Cantor (I believe) said they would have &#039;seasoned staff&#039; to place in the offices of all new members immediately!  Not only is that a poor idea, I am hopeful that the newly elected CONSERVATIVES will recognize it as a wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing and let the leadership know they have their OWN staff - JUST SAY NO to all offers of &#039;seasoned&#039; staff!!!!!!!

We have been part of the tea party movement (NOT ever thinking of a 3rd party) since the first gathering on April 15.  However, there are far too many in the msm and even in Congress who would use that &#039;label&#039; to paint a tainted picture of those with conservative values who have been gathering by the hundreds of thousands since Rick Santelli&#039;s Chicago rant.  Therefore, Rep. Bachmann&#039;s decision to rename her caucus the Constitutional Conservative Caucus is a good one.

We the People will be paying close attention to those we have elected to office...and if they stray from their conservative values, we will let them know of our concerns immediately!

202.224.3121 is the Congressional Switchboard - let them hear YOU!

It is time for the leaders in Congress to recognize that ALL BILLS that are presented to be voted upon MUST be in accordance with our CONSTITUTION!  If the present leaders can&#039;t bring themselves to demand that accountability, then it is time for NEW leaders!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>come up with is the CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVE CAUCUS!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy to hear that she will be there for the new class &#8211; the last thing I wanted to hear was when Eric Cantor (I believe) said they would have &#8216;seasoned staff&#8217; to place in the offices of all new members immediately!  Not only is that a poor idea, I am hopeful that the newly elected CONSERVATIVES will recognize it as a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing and let the leadership know they have their OWN staff &#8211; JUST SAY NO to all offers of &#8216;seasoned&#8217; staff!!!!!!!</p>
<p>We have been part of the tea party movement (NOT ever thinking of a 3rd party) since the first gathering on April 15.  However, there are far too many in the msm and even in Congress who would use that &#8216;label&#8217; to paint a tainted picture of those with conservative values who have been gathering by the hundreds of thousands since Rick Santelli&#8217;s Chicago rant.  Therefore, Rep. Bachmann&#8217;s decision to rename her caucus the Constitutional Conservative Caucus is a good one.</p>
<p>We the People will be paying close attention to those we have elected to office&#8230;and if they stray from their conservative values, we will let them know of our concerns immediately!</p>
<p>202.224.3121 is the Congressional Switchboard &#8211; let them hear YOU!</p>
<p>It is time for the leaders in Congress to recognize that ALL BILLS that are presented to be voted upon MUST be in accordance with our CONSTITUTION!  If the present leaders can&#8217;t bring themselves to demand that accountability, then it is time for NEW leaders!</p>
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		<title>By: capeconservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>capeconservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 01:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[woman gets &#039;dissed&#039; as too this...too that!

Michelle Bachmann speaks with a great understanding of the subject being discussed and gets her point across with style and pizzazz to boot!

It is time for those in the past leadership...who have REPEATEDLY come across as very ineffective - to step aside and let some new faces show what they can do!

No matter what position Rep. Bachmann is given, I&#039;m confident we will not be disappointed.  She is the REAL DEAL and it is time for those who are afraid of SMART BEAUTIFUL women to get over it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woman gets &#8216;dissed&#8217; as too this&#8230;too that!</p>
<p>Michelle Bachmann speaks with a great understanding of the subject being discussed and gets her point across with style and pizzazz to boot!</p>
<p>It is time for those in the past leadership&#8230;who have REPEATEDLY come across as very ineffective &#8211; to step aside and let some new faces show what they can do!</p>
<p>No matter what position Rep. Bachmann is given, I&#8217;m confident we will not be disappointed.  She is the REAL DEAL and it is time for those who are afraid of SMART BEAUTIFUL women to get over it!</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 06:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I wouldn&#039;t want to step in those states&quot; category, not the primary targets category.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t want to step in those states&#8221; category, not the primary targets category.</p>
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		<title>By: sirjason</title>
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		<dc:creator>sirjason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 20:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fred Upton is worse than a RINO!  Good grief, he is a progressive socialist who has been posing as a Republican long enough to be  considered for the Chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee! 
This is GOP SOP leadership at it&#039;s worst and blatant disregard for &quot;We the People...&quot;   Fred Upton should have been fired from any committee after he cast his first Obama-Pelosi-Reid vote and sent home...NOT to the back benches!
The T.E.A. (Taxed Enough Already) Movements do NOT want a 3rd Party nor do we want a ONE PARTY system that has been destroying our country for more than a century!

&quot;We the People...&quot; of the T.E.A. grassroots movements want this Constitutional Conservative Class of Representatives to begin steering the GOP in governance of the people, by the people and for the people.  

Please do NOT let it perish or violate your oath of office to serve, protect and defend our Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic...If you do &quot;We the People...&quot; will fire you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred Upton is worse than a RINO!  Good grief, he is a progressive socialist who has been posing as a Republican long enough to be  considered for the Chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee!<br />
This is GOP SOP leadership at it&#8217;s worst and blatant disregard for &#8220;We the People&#8230;&#8221;   Fred Upton should have been fired from any committee after he cast his first Obama-Pelosi-Reid vote and sent home&#8230;NOT to the back benches!<br />
The T.E.A. (Taxed Enough Already) Movements do NOT want a 3rd Party nor do we want a ONE PARTY system that has been destroying our country for more than a century!</p>
<p>&#8220;We the People&#8230;&#8221; of the T.E.A. grassroots movements want this Constitutional Conservative Class of Representatives to begin steering the GOP in governance of the people, by the people and for the people.  </p>
<p>Please do NOT let it perish or violate your oath of office to serve, protect and defend our Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic&#8230;If you do &#8220;We the People&#8230;&#8221; will fire you!</p>
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		<title>By: kenchely</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenchely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of the senators mentioned are as conservative as you could elect from their states, or are such institutions that you won&#039;t beat them.

Scott Brown has to be supported firmly.  He&#039;s the first right-of-center senator the state has had since Leverett Saltonstall, whose last term ended in 1966. If you somehow torpedo him, you&#039;re not going to get a moderate Democrat--you&#039;ll get another leftie fanatic.  Similarly, whom are you going to replace Olympia Snowe with? Chellie Pingree?  Let Paul LePage start making his imprint on the state and get the state used to a conservative Republican in office.  If he&#039;s a good governor, other conservatives will do well after him; look at the legacy of Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin.  

Orrin Hatch has been a conservative at times when it was very hard to be a conservative.  He&#039;s also someone who can get things done.  You&#039;re not going to get anyone much more conservative than he is.  He&#039;s not the same as Bennett.  Leave him alone.  He&#039;s the guy who may be able to put together coalitions big enough to override Obama vetoes.

Kay Bailey Hutchison isn&#039;t awful.  Still, her little two-step with the governor&#039;s race didn&#039;t win her any friends.  It&#039;s probably Michael Williams&#039; time.  But run the primary on how good Williams is, not on how bad Hutchison is.  You DON&#039;T want some Democrat getting in because we cut ourselves to ribbons in a rough primary.

Dick Lugar has gone Washington. He&#039;s become a shield behind whom Democrats claim to be bipartisan.  Still, he generally votes right. You don&#039;t want to beat him with someone who then loses.  If you can get Mitch Daniels to run for Senate, go for it; he&#039;d be a strong candidate.  Maybe Lugar can be encouraged to retire. He&#039;s been there for 36 years.  But don&#039;t beat him just to beat him. There was a long time that he served well as a conservative before he started moving left in his last couple of terms.  Even now he votes right most of the time.  We just told Evan bayh-bayh; don&#039;t give him an encouragement to try to come back.

Kyl, Wicker and Barrasso are very firm conservatives.  Ensign is pretty solid, though there&#039;s sort of a truce between him and Reid on each other&#039;s elections--Ensign doesn&#039;t campaign against Reid, and Reid doesn&#039;t campaign against Ensign (the two had a razor-thin race against each other back in 1998, which Reid barely won, before Ensign ran and won in 2000).  Corker&#039;s pretty much from the Lamar Alexander wing of the Tennessee GOP.  He&#039;s been more conservative in the Senate than anyone expected.  Again, we don&#039;t want to open the door for a new Algore or Jim Sasser.  Leave him alone; he&#039;s doing better than we thought he would.  

Basically, you leave these guys alone unless you are pretty sure you can win in November with your guy.  Support Williams against Hutchison and Daniels against Lugar, but don&#039;t back minor-leaguers against these people.  

Above all, leave Scott Brown alone!  I&#039;m originally from Massachusetts.  The year I was born, the GOP had both senate seats from that state. Conservatives wanted to punish the senior senator from the state, Henry Cabot Lodge, for heading Eisenhower&#039;s campaign (they liked Robert Taft), so they backed a young Democratic congressman who had a pretty conservative record in the House.  His name was John F. Kennedy, and what followed in Massachusetts politics is history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the senators mentioned are as conservative as you could elect from their states, or are such institutions that you won&#8217;t beat them.</p>
<p>Scott Brown has to be supported firmly.  He&#8217;s the first right-of-center senator the state has had since Leverett Saltonstall, whose last term ended in 1966. If you somehow torpedo him, you&#8217;re not going to get a moderate Democrat&#8211;you&#8217;ll get another leftie fanatic.  Similarly, whom are you going to replace Olympia Snowe with? Chellie Pingree?  Let Paul LePage start making his imprint on the state and get the state used to a conservative Republican in office.  If he&#8217;s a good governor, other conservatives will do well after him; look at the legacy of Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin.  </p>
<p>Orrin Hatch has been a conservative at times when it was very hard to be a conservative.  He&#8217;s also someone who can get things done.  You&#8217;re not going to get anyone much more conservative than he is.  He&#8217;s not the same as Bennett.  Leave him alone.  He&#8217;s the guy who may be able to put together coalitions big enough to override Obama vetoes.</p>
<p>Kay Bailey Hutchison isn&#8217;t awful.  Still, her little two-step with the governor&#8217;s race didn&#8217;t win her any friends.  It&#8217;s probably Michael Williams&#8217; time.  But run the primary on how good Williams is, not on how bad Hutchison is.  You DON&#8217;T want some Democrat getting in because we cut ourselves to ribbons in a rough primary.</p>
<p>Dick Lugar has gone Washington. He&#8217;s become a shield behind whom Democrats claim to be bipartisan.  Still, he generally votes right. You don&#8217;t want to beat him with someone who then loses.  If you can get Mitch Daniels to run for Senate, go for it; he&#8217;d be a strong candidate.  Maybe Lugar can be encouraged to retire. He&#8217;s been there for 36 years.  But don&#8217;t beat him just to beat him. There was a long time that he served well as a conservative before he started moving left in his last couple of terms.  Even now he votes right most of the time.  We just told Evan bayh-bayh; don&#8217;t give him an encouragement to try to come back.</p>
<p>Kyl, Wicker and Barrasso are very firm conservatives.  Ensign is pretty solid, though there&#8217;s sort of a truce between him and Reid on each other&#8217;s elections&#8211;Ensign doesn&#8217;t campaign against Reid, and Reid doesn&#8217;t campaign against Ensign (the two had a razor-thin race against each other back in 1998, which Reid barely won, before Ensign ran and won in 2000).  Corker&#8217;s pretty much from the Lamar Alexander wing of the Tennessee GOP.  He&#8217;s been more conservative in the Senate than anyone expected.  Again, we don&#8217;t want to open the door for a new Algore or Jim Sasser.  Leave him alone; he&#8217;s doing better than we thought he would.  </p>
<p>Basically, you leave these guys alone unless you are pretty sure you can win in November with your guy.  Support Williams against Hutchison and Daniels against Lugar, but don&#8217;t back minor-leaguers against these people.  </p>
<p>Above all, leave Scott Brown alone!  I&#8217;m originally from Massachusetts.  The year I was born, the GOP had both senate seats from that state. Conservatives wanted to punish the senior senator from the state, Henry Cabot Lodge, for heading Eisenhower&#8217;s campaign (they liked Robert Taft), so they backed a young Democratic congressman who had a pretty conservative record in the House.  His name was John F. Kennedy, and what followed in Massachusetts politics is history.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingmom52</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingmom52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and gave him every suggestion Erick named. They took notes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and gave him every suggestion Erick named. They took notes.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingmom52</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingmom52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[can&#039;t come quick enough for me. He&#039;s target #1 as far as I&#039;m concerned, and I can&#039;t wait to help boot him out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t come quick enough for me. He&#8217;s target #1 as far as I&#8217;m concerned, and I can&#8217;t wait to help boot him out.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan(ley) Pruss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan(ley) Pruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Work within the Republican party to take over the party by becoming a precinct committeeman!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Work within the Republican party to take over the party by becoming a precinct committeeman!</p>
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		<title>By: promise</title>
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		<dc:creator>promise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you said it all! You speak for us. I am praying everyday for wisdom to be given to these &quot;new faces&quot;. They have already been though the fire so to speak &amp; are &quot;free&quot; thinkers, so I&#039;m believing they know thier enemies in DC. I just don&#039;t believe the enemies realize how tough our new leaders are going to be! Praise the Lord for them(newbies)!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you said it all! You speak for us. I am praying everyday for wisdom to be given to these &#8220;new faces&#8221;. They have already been though the fire so to speak &amp; are &#8220;free&#8221; thinkers, so I&#8217;m believing they know thier enemies in DC. I just don&#8217;t believe the enemies realize how tough our new leaders are going to be! Praise the Lord for them(newbies)!</p>
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		<title>By: scorpio0679</title>
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		<dc:creator>scorpio0679</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The mistake of going third party has already been made, and as Beck says, if we don&#039;t learn from the past we will keep repeating the mistakes in the future.

Third party talk is nonsense.  Even if the GOP doesn&#039;t &quot;get it&quot; in this cycle, we identify, target, and destroy those who stand in our way next cycle.  The GOP is OUR party, and it will represent the will of the people and defend the Constitution.

We shouldn&#039;t waver in that goal --- talk of third parties is nonsense.  Keep focused and keep notes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mistake of going third party has already been made, and as Beck says, if we don&#8217;t learn from the past we will keep repeating the mistakes in the future.</p>
<p>Third party talk is nonsense.  Even if the GOP doesn&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221; in this cycle, we identify, target, and destroy those who stand in our way next cycle.  The GOP is OUR party, and it will represent the will of the people and defend the Constitution.</p>
<p>We shouldn&#8217;t waver in that goal &#8212; talk of third parties is nonsense.  Keep focused and keep notes.</p>
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		<title>By: scorpio0679</title>
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		<dc:creator>scorpio0679</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The nudging was happening from 2004 onward with massive protests to amnesty, entitlement expansion, and &quot;compassionate conservatism&quot; in general.

There was nothing gentle about this election.  It was a massive SHOVE.

I am very optimistic that the House gets it and I think Erick is correct to demand a changing of the guard in committee chairs and assignments.  I think the Senate needs some tea party love in this next election cycle, with an emphasis on GOP primaries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nudging was happening from 2004 onward with massive protests to amnesty, entitlement expansion, and &#8220;compassionate conservatism&#8221; in general.</p>
<p>There was nothing gentle about this election.  It was a massive SHOVE.</p>
<p>I am very optimistic that the House gets it and I think Erick is correct to demand a changing of the guard in committee chairs and assignments.  I think the Senate needs some tea party love in this next election cycle, with an emphasis on GOP primaries.</p>
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		<title>By: southcoast</title>
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		<dc:creator>southcoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This victory is the template for taking the senate and white house in 2012 in addition to expanding a command of the house. 
People must be mindful the statism we see has been imposed on Americans over the past century. 
People should be prepared for a process of change which will take years and several election cycles. 
This is the process by which the progressive politics of the last century were foisted on a passive public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This victory is the template for taking the senate and white house in 2012 in addition to expanding a command of the house.<br />
People must be mindful the statism we see has been imposed on Americans over the past century.<br />
People should be prepared for a process of change which will take years and several election cycles.<br />
This is the process by which the progressive politics of the last century were foisted on a passive public.</p>
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		<title>By: HappyBunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>HappyBunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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S.T.U.P.I.D. doesn&#039;t even being to describe you.  Who in the world feeds you and dresses you.  I&#039;m guessing we could probably pay them to stop.]]></description>
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<p>S.T.U.P.I.D. doesn&#8217;t even being to describe you.  Who in the world feeds you and dresses you.  I&#8217;m guessing we could probably pay them to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dmccracken</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmccracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even 1 cycle where Democrats get in due to a 3rd party can be disastrous. Also, it seems to me that it is far better and probably somewhat easier to reach the goal by pursuing the hostile takeover of the Republican party. There you have an existing party apparatus, a spot on the ballots in every district (as has been pointed out already), and a recognizable name for those that are not &quot;politically aware&quot; to see.

Given that in any election you will probably get 40% voting Democrat and 40% voting Republican just because that&#039;s what their &quot;family has always voted&quot;,with a 20% swing vote (except in times such as this, of course, when the swing vote grows due to massive excesses by the government, but I speak of historical numbers) you have to be recognizable because we still are cursed by the apathetic in this country, and you do need them to win elections.

A third party would give the libs the opening to come back and finish their destruction. The only answer is to reform from within.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even 1 cycle where Democrats get in due to a 3rd party can be disastrous. Also, it seems to me that it is far better and probably somewhat easier to reach the goal by pursuing the hostile takeover of the Republican party. There you have an existing party apparatus, a spot on the ballots in every district (as has been pointed out already), and a recognizable name for those that are not &#8220;politically aware&#8221; to see.</p>
<p>Given that in any election you will probably get 40% voting Democrat and 40% voting Republican just because that&#8217;s what their &#8220;family has always voted&#8221;,with a 20% swing vote (except in times such as this, of course, when the swing vote grows due to massive excesses by the government, but I speak of historical numbers) you have to be recognizable because we still are cursed by the apathetic in this country, and you do need them to win elections.</p>
<p>A third party would give the libs the opening to come back and finish their destruction. The only answer is to reform from within.</p>
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		<title>By: mirac777</title>
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		<dc:creator>mirac777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The truth shall set us free. One truth soon to be exposed, is who is going to bat for the people of America, and who is gunning for more wasteful earmarks to keep their jobs. This will expose those who need to be both primaried and outed in 2012. We will be watching and reporting. we will be vigilant and informed. They can&#039;t escape those facts, no matter how many decades they have been entrenched up on the Hill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth shall set us free. One truth soon to be exposed, is who is going to bat for the people of America, and who is gunning for more wasteful earmarks to keep their jobs. This will expose those who need to be both primaried and outed in 2012. We will be watching and reporting. we will be vigilant and informed. They can&#8217;t escape those facts, no matter how many decades they have been entrenched up on the Hill.</p>
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		<title>By: mirac777</title>
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		<dc:creator>mirac777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Hostile takeover&quot; statement in any form here. The teaparty will be the new GOP&gt; BOTH will be true to conservative ideology, with no progressive Rinos involved. We are looking at the NEW GOP, I sometimes call it the TotalTeaParty. After all it is the people speaking and speaking loudly. Isnt the goal to have a gov&#039;t that abides by our constitution and laws? Groups have to evolve, and to use a Beck Phrase here, we the people have &quot;Nudged&quot; the GOP to get back to it&#039;s conservative roots. It will still be called the GOP. And it will listen to the people, which it got away from for decades. The Teaparty is the people, the true American voice. The GOP has been taught a lesson that goes back to our founding fathers. We shall have a gov&#039;t OF the People, BY the people, and FOR the people, period. Just how we achieve this again will be interesting, to say the least. One thing that is evident: Its a new beginning, based on old principles, and it is wonderful to be a part of.

  God Bless America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hostile takeover&#8221; statement in any form here. The teaparty will be the new GOP&gt; BOTH will be true to conservative ideology, with no progressive Rinos involved. We are looking at the NEW GOP, I sometimes call it the TotalTeaParty. After all it is the people speaking and speaking loudly. Isnt the goal to have a gov&#8217;t that abides by our constitution and laws? Groups have to evolve, and to use a Beck Phrase here, we the people have &#8220;Nudged&#8221; the GOP to get back to it&#8217;s conservative roots. It will still be called the GOP. And it will listen to the people, which it got away from for decades. The Teaparty is the people, the true American voice. The GOP has been taught a lesson that goes back to our founding fathers. We shall have a gov&#8217;t OF the People, BY the people, and FOR the people, period. Just how we achieve this again will be interesting, to say the least. One thing that is evident: Its a new beginning, based on old principles, and it is wonderful to be a part of.</p>
<p>  God Bless America.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...has given Etheridge an opening to steal the election by siphoning votes from Ellmers, which is absolutely all they are good for. I swear I will spit on the next car I see that has a libertarian bumper sticker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;has given Etheridge an opening to steal the election by siphoning votes from Ellmers, which is absolutely all they are good for. I swear I will spit on the next car I see that has a libertarian bumper sticker.</p>
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		<title>By: renny</title>
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		<dc:creator>renny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 12:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clinton won twice with 43% of the vote because Perot took 12% in 1992 and 9% in 1996, very good showings for a third party candidate. And defeat for Bush I and Bob Dole.

Sometimes parties collapse and become another identity, as the Whigs fell over the question of slavery in the expanded territories in the 1850s and then re-emerged in 1854 as the Republican Party, an anti-slavery party.

I doubt with today&#039;s communications, in-place structure, and significant membership that today&#039;s GOP is going to disintegrate and yield to a &quot;Tea Party&quot; official pol. group. 

When the tea partiers allied with the Reps., they got ballot space on every local, state, and fed. election roster, something &quot;outside&quot; parties need to take time, lawyers, and money to do from district to district and state to state, which is why Nader, for instance, had an impact on CA races to a degree because the state acknowledges a Green Party, but he had negligible impact over all because he did not press for a Green Party line in every polling booth.

A &quot;party&quot; we should work to de-legitimize is the Working Families Party (WFP) that is a creature of ACORN and union buddyship. In most states, if a party does not garner 10% of the vote, they get stricken from the line in the next election. 

It was a surprise to me that in some NJ district, &quot;outliers&quot; ran on a &quot;Tea Party&quot; ticket--like in the Runyan-Adler 3rd district race--when there is no statewide recognition of a Tea Party per se. Since Adler stands accused of &quot;creating&quot; such a candidate to siphon Rep. votes in the district and an investigation is looking into fraud, maybe such an anomaly won&#039;t happen again, soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton won twice with 43% of the vote because Perot took 12% in 1992 and 9% in 1996, very good showings for a third party candidate. And defeat for Bush I and Bob Dole.</p>
<p>Sometimes parties collapse and become another identity, as the Whigs fell over the question of slavery in the expanded territories in the 1850s and then re-emerged in 1854 as the Republican Party, an anti-slavery party.</p>
<p>I doubt with today&#8217;s communications, in-place structure, and significant membership that today&#8217;s GOP is going to disintegrate and yield to a &#8220;Tea Party&#8221; official pol. group. </p>
<p>When the tea partiers allied with the Reps., they got ballot space on every local, state, and fed. election roster, something &#8220;outside&#8221; parties need to take time, lawyers, and money to do from district to district and state to state, which is why Nader, for instance, had an impact on CA races to a degree because the state acknowledges a Green Party, but he had negligible impact over all because he did not press for a Green Party line in every polling booth.</p>
<p>A &#8220;party&#8221; we should work to de-legitimize is the Working Families Party (WFP) that is a creature of ACORN and union buddyship. In most states, if a party does not garner 10% of the vote, they get stricken from the line in the next election. </p>
<p>It was a surprise to me that in some NJ district, &#8220;outliers&#8221; ran on a &#8220;Tea Party&#8221; ticket&#8211;like in the Runyan-Adler 3rd district race&#8211;when there is no statewide recognition of a Tea Party per se. Since Adler stands accused of &#8220;creating&#8221; such a candidate to siphon Rep. votes in the district and an investigation is looking into fraud, maybe such an anomaly won&#8217;t happen again, soon.</p>
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