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	<title>Comments on: Now We See It All.  Mitch McConnell&#8217;s Pontius Pilate Act Is Cover for Tax Increases</title>
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		<title>By: kliff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116708</link>
		<dc:creator>kliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to calculate the good that Erick Erickson &amp; Glenn Beck has done for the conservative movement, each,  in his own way. And as with everyone, sometimes positions taken that are somewhat slanted. But, on occasion, both will slip the public load of crap. This just happened with the attack on Coebrurn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to calculate the good that Erick Erickson &amp; Glenn Beck has done for the conservative movement, each,  in his own way. And as with everyone, sometimes positions taken that are somewhat slanted. But, on occasion, both will slip the public load of crap. This just happened with the attack on Coebrurn.</p>
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		<title>By: davesinsanantonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>davesinsanantonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is not a very &quot;intelligent&quot; move.  There is a difference.

As someone once said, there is no statement so silly that some intellectual will embrace it.

What we need in Washington (and in our universities) is fewer intellectuals and more intelligence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not a very &#8220;intelligent&#8221; move.  There is a difference.</p>
<p>As someone once said, there is no statement so silly that some intellectual will embrace it.</p>
<p>What we need in Washington (and in our universities) is fewer intellectuals and more intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: davesinsanantonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>davesinsanantonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davesinsanantonio</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116672</link>
		<dc:creator>davesinsanantonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I visited the old Soviet Union back when, and one interesting statistic came out:  Half of all residential fires in Moscow were started by faulty TV sets.  When was the last time you heard of a TV in the use starting a house fire?
Here is my point, when you have a government managed economy the bad producers suck up to the bureaucrats and politicians to protect their financial base.  Then to be able to afford the graft and campaign &quot;donations&quot;, they have to cut even more corners on their products.  So, products get shoddier and shoddier.  I went in to several &quot;supermarkets&quot; there, and wouldn&#039;t want to eat anything they had on the shelves.  Even the canned goods looked sick.  Eventually, the &quot;good&quot; producers have to also cut corners to compete, and the whole mess begins to look like a &quot;soviet&quot; economy.  Which is one reason it collapsed.
I was stationed in Berlin in the Seventies, and the difference between East and West Berlin should have been an eye-opener for anyone.  And, eventually even the totally indoctrinated East Germans had had enough.  Why are OUR Lefties so stupid they can&#039;t see the truth when it smacks them in the face???  And, smack them in the face it will!!!  But, by then it will be too late!  For all of us!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited the old Soviet Union back when, and one interesting statistic came out:  Half of all residential fires in Moscow were started by faulty TV sets.  When was the last time you heard of a TV in the use starting a house fire?<br />
Here is my point, when you have a government managed economy the bad producers suck up to the bureaucrats and politicians to protect their financial base.  Then to be able to afford the graft and campaign &#8220;donations&#8221;, they have to cut even more corners on their products.  So, products get shoddier and shoddier.  I went in to several &#8220;supermarkets&#8221; there, and wouldn&#8217;t want to eat anything they had on the shelves.  Even the canned goods looked sick.  Eventually, the &#8220;good&#8221; producers have to also cut corners to compete, and the whole mess begins to look like a &#8220;soviet&#8221; economy.  Which is one reason it collapsed.<br />
I was stationed in Berlin in the Seventies, and the difference between East and West Berlin should have been an eye-opener for anyone.  And, eventually even the totally indoctrinated East Germans had had enough.  Why are OUR Lefties so stupid they can&#8217;t see the truth when it smacks them in the face???  And, smack them in the face it will!!!  But, by then it will be too late!  For all of us!</p>
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		<title>By: davesinsanantonio</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116670</link>
		<dc:creator>davesinsanantonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True!  But, I don&#039;t want to be banned for saying what I really think of this &quot;weasel&quot;.  In fact, I think &quot;Benedict Arnold&quot; is even &quot;a kind way to describe this loser.&quot;  But, I can&#039;t think of a stronger one yet.

Please primary this loser weasel at the earliest possible date.  Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True!  But, I don&#8217;t want to be banned for saying what I really think of this &#8220;weasel&#8221;.  In fact, I think &#8220;Benedict Arnold&#8221; is even &#8220;a kind way to describe this loser.&#8221;  But, I can&#8217;t think of a stronger one yet.</p>
<p>Please primary this loser weasel at the earliest possible date.  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: davesinsanantonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>davesinsanantonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a box of rocks.  If they punt on this one, no one will be able to trust them and so will not vote Republican next year!!!  Who would trust a presidential candidate, or a candidate for any other office, from a party with so little brain power and absolutely no backbone or integrity???  I mean, REALLY!!!  &quot;What fools these mortals be.&quot;
Most Americans would much rather vote for someone who fights for what is right and risks losing than for a weasel who only cares about his or her re-election--especially when the survival of the country is at stake!!!  We do not want our chance for survival &quot;kicked down the road&quot;.  Get a backbone and stop being a weasel, you weasels!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a box of rocks.  If they punt on this one, no one will be able to trust them and so will not vote Republican next year!!!  Who would trust a presidential candidate, or a candidate for any other office, from a party with so little brain power and absolutely no backbone or integrity???  I mean, REALLY!!!  &#8220;What fools these mortals be.&#8221;<br />
Most Americans would much rather vote for someone who fights for what is right and risks losing than for a weasel who only cares about his or her re-election&#8211;especially when the survival of the country is at stake!!!  We do not want our chance for survival &#8220;kicked down the road&#8221;.  Get a backbone and stop being a weasel, you weasels!!!</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116602</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they&#039;re unlocking the credit card for a compulsive spender

BRILLIANT!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they&#8217;re unlocking the credit card for a compulsive spender</p>
<p>BRILLIANT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Goldwater_Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116521</link>
		<dc:creator>Goldwater_Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what I would do, much less the right thing to do.  I&#039;m just saying, in a purly political sense, the GOP has no incentive in solving the problem now while on Obama&#039;s watch.  They have every reson to kick the can down till 2013 and have their new President come in on the white horse and solve all things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what I would do, much less the right thing to do.  I&#8217;m just saying, in a purly political sense, the GOP has no incentive in solving the problem now while on Obama&#8217;s watch.  They have every reson to kick the can down till 2013 and have their new President come in on the white horse and solve all things.</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116510</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who bend over for the big boys in exchange for special treatment and protection...he&#039;s not a traitor, he&#039;s not stupid, he&#039;s an unprincipled coward who would sell his wife, mother and kids down the river for a crumb form Harry Ried&#039;s table,

He&#039;s Harry Ried&#039;s B__ch thus my new name for him...Mitch the B__ch.

He&#039;s a loathsome creature not even worthy of our contempt and should face the wrath of the conservative movement next time he&#039;s up which won&#039;t be soon enough for me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who bend over for the big boys in exchange for special treatment and protection&#8230;he&#8217;s not a traitor, he&#8217;s not stupid, he&#8217;s an unprincipled coward who would sell his wife, mother and kids down the river for a crumb form Harry Ried&#8217;s table,</p>
<p>He&#8217;s Harry Ried&#8217;s B__ch thus my new name for him&#8230;Mitch the B__ch.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a loathsome creature not even worthy of our contempt and should face the wrath of the conservative movement next time he&#8217;s up which won&#8217;t be soon enough for me</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116507</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but it cracks me up how you and others in the green eye shade crowd keep going from cave afcter cave saying how brilliant a move each successive cave is because it sets the stage for something dreamy down the road....&#039;

of course...we never get to the dreamy party because we have to set the stage for the next brilliant strategy from Mitch the B__ch and the geniuses advising him...

but who knows...maybe you&#039;ll finally be right this time...

but then again...

&lt;img src=&quot;http://farm1.static.flickr.com/37/74353767_04c2efc838.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot;&gt; 

&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:3em&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt; you probably won&#039;t!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but it cracks me up how you and others in the green eye shade crowd keep going from cave afcter cave saying how brilliant a move each successive cave is because it sets the stage for something dreamy down the road&#8230;.&#8217;</p>
<p>of course&#8230;we never get to the dreamy party because we have to set the stage for the next brilliant strategy from Mitch the B__ch and the geniuses advising him&#8230;</p>
<p>but who knows&#8230;maybe you&#8217;ll finally be right this time&#8230;</p>
<p>but then again&#8230;</p>
<p><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/37/74353767_04c2efc838.jpg" alt=""/> </p>
<p><span style="font-size:3em"><span style="color:#000000"> you probably won&#8217;t!!!</span></span></p>
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		<title>By: caboose</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116483</link>
		<dc:creator>caboose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[about it, McConnell is taking advice from lobbists Trent Lott and Bob Dole. He must not be allowed to get away with it. The Washington Switchboard congressional number is 1 202 224 3121. As for your representative&#039;s office whether Senator or House Congressman by name and they will put you through. I just called McConnell&#039;s office told his staff that if McConnell wanted to keep me as a contributor, he damn well better abandon the surrender treason bill he and the two DEM gooks cooked up. I also ask Mitch to step down as leader of the minority in the Senate. If there is a sleeping giant left in this Country and is capable of awakening up, it needs to be done before this country is totally destroyed. Mich McConnell has betrayed us and Boehner is now suspect. When you call demand that Mitch step down]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>about it, McConnell is taking advice from lobbists Trent Lott and Bob Dole. He must not be allowed to get away with it. The Washington Switchboard congressional number is 1 202 224 3121. As for your representative&#8217;s office whether Senator or House Congressman by name and they will put you through. I just called McConnell&#8217;s office told his staff that if McConnell wanted to keep me as a contributor, he damn well better abandon the surrender treason bill he and the two DEM gooks cooked up. I also ask Mitch to step down as leader of the minority in the Senate. If there is a sleeping giant left in this Country and is capable of awakening up, it needs to be done before this country is totally destroyed. Mich McConnell has betrayed us and Boehner is now suspect. When you call demand that Mitch step down</p>
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		<title>By: Sheet Anchor</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116469</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheet Anchor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[our ability to stop President Obama, it is now time to speak in plain terms to Republicans in Congress. We must stop Mcconnell&#039;s proposal, Hence, time to tell our elected Republican representatives that any support for Mcconnell will trigger support for primary opponents in 2012. Further, we will withold campaign contributions from any Republican who supports this proposal, and will actively work to defeat them in a primary.

If you have not called or e-mailed your representatives in Congress, it is time. We sent them there last November to stop President Obama at all costs - now and not next year. 

We must hold the line here, and let President Obama decide whether or not the United States wil default while he has the checkbook to the pay the current interest on the debt, and social securiiy. If we cannot hold the line now, then when and how can we save this country? A debt ceiling of $16.7 trillion is unacceptable and  maddening. The 101st Airborne Division held the line at Bastogne. We must hold the line now, until relieved in 2012 with a new President.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our ability to stop President Obama, it is now time to speak in plain terms to Republicans in Congress. We must stop Mcconnell&#8217;s proposal, Hence, time to tell our elected Republican representatives that any support for Mcconnell will trigger support for primary opponents in 2012. Further, we will withold campaign contributions from any Republican who supports this proposal, and will actively work to defeat them in a primary.</p>
<p>If you have not called or e-mailed your representatives in Congress, it is time. We sent them there last November to stop President Obama at all costs &#8211; now and not next year. </p>
<p>We must hold the line here, and let President Obama decide whether or not the United States wil default while he has the checkbook to the pay the current interest on the debt, and social securiiy. If we cannot hold the line now, then when and how can we save this country? A debt ceiling of $16.7 trillion is unacceptable and  maddening. The 101st Airborne Division held the line at Bastogne. We must hold the line now, until relieved in 2012 with a new President.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/18/nih-backed-study-examined-effects-penis-size-in-gay-community/#ixzz1STwDzLxo&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;NIH-Backed Study Examined Effects of Penis Size in Gay Community&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;This country is broke and we cannot spend money on this kind of stuff,&quot; said Andrea Lafferty, president of the Traditional Values Coalition, which drew attention to the report as part of a six-month investigation into NIH grants for examples of &quot;institutional waste.&quot; 

&quot;We&#039;re spending money on wacky stuff,&quot; Lafferty said. 

Lafferty&#039;s group drew attention to several other studies Monday that it claimed were &quot;bizarre&quot; in the current fiscal climate. Among them was one that asked individuals to &quot;mail in their toenails&quot; to measure &quot;toenail nicotine,&quot; according to the values coalition. 

&quot;The president has said he&#039;s going to hunt down waste. Well, I&#039;m going to give it to him on a platter,&quot; Lafferty said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/18/nih-backed-study-examined-effects-penis-size-in-gay-community/#ixzz1STwDzLxo" target="_blank">NIH-Backed Study Examined Effects of Penis Size in Gay Community</a></p>
<p>&#8220;This country is broke and we cannot spend money on this kind of stuff,&#8221; said Andrea Lafferty, president of the Traditional Values Coalition, which drew attention to the report as part of a six-month investigation into NIH grants for examples of &#8220;institutional waste.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re spending money on wacky stuff,&#8221; Lafferty said. </p>
<p>Lafferty&#8217;s group drew attention to several other studies Monday that it claimed were &#8220;bizarre&#8221; in the current fiscal climate. Among them was one that asked individuals to &#8220;mail in their toenails&#8221; to measure &#8220;toenail nicotine,&#8221; according to the values coalition. </p>
<p>&#8220;The president has said he&#8217;s going to hunt down waste. Well, I&#8217;m going to give it to him on a platter,&#8221; Lafferty said.</p>
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		<title>By: lineholder</title>
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		<dc:creator>lineholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cutting the deficit can also mean increasing revenues via taxes, so I&#039;d like to see what Coburn has in mind.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cutting the deficit can also mean increasing revenues via taxes, so I&#8217;d like to see what Coburn has in mind.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Freedoms Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116464</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedoms Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Well, whatever the commission comes up with, it?s going to be deemed filibuster proof&quot;

Anything with tax increases are DOA in the House.

It doesnt matter what they recommend, nothing will be done with Obama in the WH, because nothing he will accept will be acceptable to 220+ House Republicans.  Beohner has at least been consistent there. So it doesnt matter what &#039;deal&#039; is cooked up. it won&#039;t sell.

In my opinion, the Senate gasbags are just creating another Simpson-Bowles-like destined-for-round-file proposal. The mischeif here is not that it might get passed, but that ONCE AGAIN we are letting the President off the hook and letting him play &#039;present&#039; without any plan at all. Good policy, since whatever he proposes will be awful, but bad politics, if the whole point was to get the President on the hook for this.

Senator Tom Coburn, on the other hand, has offered in my mind the real game-changer proposal. Why?
Because we have used Ryan as the GOP &#039;baseline&#039; of &#039;what can we save&#039; and Coburn is now upping the ante and saying: &quot;Look, we can cut the deficit by $9 trillion over 10 years.&quot; It puts to shame the dishwater $1.5trillion in &#039;cuts&#039; from Biden talks, and it trump Ryan in terms of deficit reduction.  I would also like to see the RSC and Rand Paul budget ideas get more play, as both go more vigorously after the discretionary spending.

If Coburn can get significant Senate GOP support for his approach, it could be a good counterpart to the House backing for the Ryan roadmap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, whatever the commission comes up with, it?s going to be deemed filibuster proof&#8221;</p>
<p>Anything with tax increases are DOA in the House.</p>
<p>It doesnt matter what they recommend, nothing will be done with Obama in the WH, because nothing he will accept will be acceptable to 220+ House Republicans.  Beohner has at least been consistent there. So it doesnt matter what &#8216;deal&#8217; is cooked up. it won&#8217;t sell.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the Senate gasbags are just creating another Simpson-Bowles-like destined-for-round-file proposal. The mischeif here is not that it might get passed, but that ONCE AGAIN we are letting the President off the hook and letting him play &#8216;present&#8217; without any plan at all. Good policy, since whatever he proposes will be awful, but bad politics, if the whole point was to get the President on the hook for this.</p>
<p>Senator Tom Coburn, on the other hand, has offered in my mind the real game-changer proposal. Why?<br />
Because we have used Ryan as the GOP &#8216;baseline&#8217; of &#8216;what can we save&#8217; and Coburn is now upping the ante and saying: &#8220;Look, we can cut the deficit by $9 trillion over 10 years.&#8221; It puts to shame the dishwater $1.5trillion in &#8216;cuts&#8217; from Biden talks, and it trump Ryan in terms of deficit reduction.  I would also like to see the RSC and Rand Paul budget ideas get more play, as both go more vigorously after the discretionary spending.</p>
<p>If Coburn can get significant Senate GOP support for his approach, it could be a good counterpart to the House backing for the Ryan roadmap.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus_Traianus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no intellectually plausibly, well thought out reason for McConnell&#039;s overture. It is not, as has been implied, a clever tactic in which he makes the Democrats &quot;own&quot; the debt limit increase.

What McConnell has done is to display that prior experiences and outcomes mean nothing to him. He has now given Democrats a cudgel, which they will use to articulate, ad nauseam about the &quot;extremists&quot; in our party and how they are not serious or surreptitiously uncaring about the debt situation- or was that his intent?

McConnell has demonstrated for them what is otherwise a  fairly united front has a weak spot in its armor; his personal vanity.

Notice the press has now taken up &quot;McConnell&#039;s Plan on which &quot;he and Reid agree&quot; as a headline, as proof. This confuses the outcome which was otherwise running in favor of Republicans very well articulated plans- as opposed to none from the President or Democrats.

This is absolutely one of the most contra-intellectual political moves I have ever seen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no intellectually plausibly, well thought out reason for McConnell&#8217;s overture. It is not, as has been implied, a clever tactic in which he makes the Democrats &#8220;own&#8221; the debt limit increase.</p>
<p>What McConnell has done is to display that prior experiences and outcomes mean nothing to him. He has now given Democrats a cudgel, which they will use to articulate, ad nauseam about the &#8220;extremists&#8221; in our party and how they are not serious or surreptitiously uncaring about the debt situation- or was that his intent?</p>
<p>McConnell has demonstrated for them what is otherwise a  fairly united front has a weak spot in its armor; his personal vanity.</p>
<p>Notice the press has now taken up &#8220;McConnell&#8217;s Plan on which &#8220;he and Reid agree&#8221; as a headline, as proof. This confuses the outcome which was otherwise running in favor of Republicans very well articulated plans- as opposed to none from the President or Democrats.</p>
<p>This is absolutely one of the most contra-intellectual political moves I have ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: leehazel</title>
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		<dc:creator>leehazel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This McConnell ploy is just what you think it is. It is a bare knuckled approach to force the Tea Party to try to go it alone. I think we all know what the result would be and this is what the PowerCrats/Criminals (aka SOBs) in WDC (Washington District of Corruption) want.

They are betting that if they can kill the threat of a GOP takeover by the Tea Party the PowerCrats of both current parties can retain office and can preside over  the demise of the Late, Great USA.

After all in WDC the have the resources to protect their worthless hides from being displayed on the razor wire fences they will erect to keep the riff-raff out.

Folks, this whole thing is out of control and it is about to get real ugly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This McConnell ploy is just what you think it is. It is a bare knuckled approach to force the Tea Party to try to go it alone. I think we all know what the result would be and this is what the PowerCrats/Criminals (aka SOBs) in WDC (Washington District of Corruption) want.</p>
<p>They are betting that if they can kill the threat of a GOP takeover by the Tea Party the PowerCrats of both current parties can retain office and can preside over  the demise of the Late, Great USA.</p>
<p>After all in WDC the have the resources to protect their worthless hides from being displayed on the razor wire fences they will erect to keep the riff-raff out.</p>
<p>Folks, this whole thing is out of control and it is about to get real ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: lineholder</title>
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		<dc:creator>lineholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That politicians in general (which does include some Repubs) have developed a lot of really stupid, ignorant bad habits and a mindset that is dependent on spending far more in public funds than is genuinely needed.  

The best hope that our country has to alter this pattern of behavior is to make sure that we get fiscal conservatives elected into office in 2012.   

The outcome on this point is dependent on our actions, first and foremost, not the actions of those in Congress.  If we can&#039;t step up, stay engaged, and exercise our right to vote, then we have no one but ourselves to blame.  

If we do stay engaged and exercise our right to vote, then we have a chance of succeeding, which could turn things around for all us. 

That this is just one of those times when we have to be proactive rather than reactive, and we have to &quot;go for the gold&quot; so to speak DESPITE the foolishness and idiocy that is being displayed by some of those currently in Congress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That politicians in general (which does include some Repubs) have developed a lot of really stupid, ignorant bad habits and a mindset that is dependent on spending far more in public funds than is genuinely needed.  </p>
<p>The best hope that our country has to alter this pattern of behavior is to make sure that we get fiscal conservatives elected into office in 2012.   </p>
<p>The outcome on this point is dependent on our actions, first and foremost, not the actions of those in Congress.  If we can&#8217;t step up, stay engaged, and exercise our right to vote, then we have no one but ourselves to blame.  </p>
<p>If we do stay engaged and exercise our right to vote, then we have a chance of succeeding, which could turn things around for all us. </p>
<p>That this is just one of those times when we have to be proactive rather than reactive, and we have to &#8220;go for the gold&#8221; so to speak DESPITE the foolishness and idiocy that is being displayed by some of those currently in Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: earlgrey</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/18/now-we-see-it-all-mitch-mcconnells-pontius-pilate-act-is-cover-for-tax-increases/#comment-116455</link>
		<dc:creator>earlgrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[play into what McConnell is doing or how we can respond?

There is only so much $$ to SCF, Heritage, American Majority can do.  I am at a loss.  With the Republicans betrayal it will be even more difficult to recruit independent voters to vote Republican or vote at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>play into what McConnell is doing or how we can respond?</p>
<p>There is only so much $$ to SCF, Heritage, American Majority can do.  I am at a loss.  With the Republicans betrayal it will be even more difficult to recruit independent voters to vote Republican or vote at all.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and if McConnell is trying to restore power to the establishment by minimizing the Tea Party....we&#039;re just going to have to fight that much harder and prove them wrong, politically.  We may just have to take a different approach in the fight.  

However, when it comes to considering the impact that is going to have on our economy...I&#039;m going to say my piece, rant or not.  

For months on end, consumers have been cautious in regards to how they spend their disposable income.  Just cautious.  It hasn&#039;t reached &quot;fearful&quot; yet.  Couple that caution with the unemployment rate and rising prices, and it&#039;s caused our economy to flatline on the demand side.  We need to stay out of the &quot;fearful&quot; range as much as possible, but decisions like this are more likely to push us into that range.  

The left is going ga-ga over this idea that the glory days of free-market capitalism are now gone, and that the only way we will see growth and development in our economy is via managed capitalism methods resulting from government intervention.  This is what they want to happen, so they are projecting that the free-market enterprise system is now collapsing for the purpose of justifying both government intervention and additional tax increases to support these government intervention efforts.  

But these idiots know absolutely nothing at all about what it takes to establish or maintain a successful business venture.  All their managed capitalism ideas are pie-in-the-sky grand schemes, with products/services that are mandated to the general public (taking away from consumer disposable income) supposedly for the purpose of generating jobs.  

Yet to make sure that the demand for their choice of products/services might be sustained, they put regulations into place that limit or eliminate competition (which kill jobs and lowers the disposable income across our society as a whole).  

Then to get the demand for their products/services up to the sustainable level they want to see happen,  they subsidize either purchase or provision of the product/service or both, which does nothing more than generate a bunch of artificially-inflated bubbles across our economy as a whole.  

Idiots and fools!  If they&#039;d pull back on the regulatory measures, keep tax increases on the back burner, let the economy stabilize, and give the American public a chance to determine where true demand for products/services actually exists, we could probably find a way to turn things around.  But, oh, no, in their infinite wisdom and superior intelligence, they have to keeping monkeying around with it, don&#039;t they?  

I never thought I&#039;d hear myself say this, but I&#039;m now beginning to support those who have been presenting the idea that we need to reestablish supply-and-demand chains at the local level, separate from the influence of government intervention as much as possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and if McConnell is trying to restore power to the establishment by minimizing the Tea Party&#8230;.we&#8217;re just going to have to fight that much harder and prove them wrong, politically.  We may just have to take a different approach in the fight.  </p>
<p>However, when it comes to considering the impact that is going to have on our economy&#8230;I&#8217;m going to say my piece, rant or not.  </p>
<p>For months on end, consumers have been cautious in regards to how they spend their disposable income.  Just cautious.  It hasn&#8217;t reached &#8220;fearful&#8221; yet.  Couple that caution with the unemployment rate and rising prices, and it&#8217;s caused our economy to flatline on the demand side.  We need to stay out of the &#8220;fearful&#8221; range as much as possible, but decisions like this are more likely to push us into that range.  </p>
<p>The left is going ga-ga over this idea that the glory days of free-market capitalism are now gone, and that the only way we will see growth and development in our economy is via managed capitalism methods resulting from government intervention.  This is what they want to happen, so they are projecting that the free-market enterprise system is now collapsing for the purpose of justifying both government intervention and additional tax increases to support these government intervention efforts.  </p>
<p>But these idiots know absolutely nothing at all about what it takes to establish or maintain a successful business venture.  All their managed capitalism ideas are pie-in-the-sky grand schemes, with products/services that are mandated to the general public (taking away from consumer disposable income) supposedly for the purpose of generating jobs.  </p>
<p>Yet to make sure that the demand for their choice of products/services might be sustained, they put regulations into place that limit or eliminate competition (which kill jobs and lowers the disposable income across our society as a whole).  </p>
<p>Then to get the demand for their products/services up to the sustainable level they want to see happen,  they subsidize either purchase or provision of the product/service or both, which does nothing more than generate a bunch of artificially-inflated bubbles across our economy as a whole.  </p>
<p>Idiots and fools!  If they&#8217;d pull back on the regulatory measures, keep tax increases on the back burner, let the economy stabilize, and give the American public a chance to determine where true demand for products/services actually exists, we could probably find a way to turn things around.  But, oh, no, in their infinite wisdom and superior intelligence, they have to keeping monkeying around with it, don&#8217;t they?  </p>
<p>I never thought I&#8217;d hear myself say this, but I&#8217;m now beginning to support those who have been presenting the idea that we need to reestablish supply-and-demand chains at the local level, separate from the influence of government intervention as much as possible.</p>
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