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	<title>Comments on: The Club For Growth&#8217;s Depressing Study: Failure and Lies of the Tea Party Congresscritters</title>
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		<title>By: chbroussard</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-184247</link>
		<dc:creator>chbroussard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 01:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rightlane1111</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightlane1111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 15:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and remember this...Spain is in mega trouble today and while some on the board say &quot;not to worry&quot; because a Spanish company has now been given the responsibility of counting some of our ballots...it makes you wonder...doesn&#039;t it. :-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and remember this&#8230;Spain is in mega trouble today and while some on the board say &#8220;not to worry&#8221; because a Spanish company has now been given the responsibility of counting some of our ballots&#8230;it makes you wonder&#8230;doesn&#8217;t it. <img src='http://www.redstate.com/erick/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: checkmate2012</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183964</link>
		<dc:creator>checkmate2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 03:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[O comes out constantly &amp; says he&#039;s putting 80B for this and 20B for that.. It seems like the stimulus plague never ends. Yet if you look at the gov&#039;t stimulus website, it&#039;s all been spent or pledged. How does he keep coming up with money in his pocket if the House hasn&#039;t appropriated it? Are we just giving him blank checks?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O comes out constantly &amp; says he&#8217;s putting 80B for this and 20B for that.. It seems like the stimulus plague never ends. Yet if you look at the gov&#8217;t stimulus website, it&#8217;s all been spent or pledged. How does he keep coming up with money in his pocket if the House hasn&#8217;t appropriated it? Are we just giving him blank checks?</p>
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		<title>By: rightlane1111</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightlane1111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 01:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you think that all those regulations of Sustein&#039;s were free to we the taxpayers?   I think not.  Obama can spend plenty of money on our dime also...foreign affairs, wars, etc.  And let us not forget...Michelle&#039;s 20 something aides and her expensive vacations...oh and his too.

How&#039;s that for not needing the Congress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think that all those regulations of Sustein&#8217;s were free to we the taxpayers?   I think not.  Obama can spend plenty of money on our dime also&#8230;foreign affairs, wars, etc.  And let us not forget&#8230;Michelle&#8217;s 20 something aides and her expensive vacations&#8230;oh and his too.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for not needing the Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: hayekwasright</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183881</link>
		<dc:creator>hayekwasright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are correct in that seniority means nothing with regard to getting re-elected if the electorate wants someone out. What I meant was that seniority currently has a lot to do with leadership positions, committee chairs, and the like. As things stand now, these folks with the power positions have been pretty effective at shutting down the noble efforts of some well meaning junior members to serve the nation. In recent history, we have not done a very good job of voting out legislative leaders that wielded power in their respective houses.

The &quot;tone&quot; of leadership acting in this way for their own short-term political benefit, rather than doing what is best for the nation and future generations is a huge problem. That tone will change instantly if they begin to believe that the voters will throw them out on their ears if they keep it up. Again, there is a startling tendency for voters to re-elect their Sen. or Rep. if he/she holds committee chairs even when the person clearly needs to go.

You are also correct in that a real key is to wake-up and educate voters. Sadly, history teaches us that many are very sound sleepers, perhaps even comatose, though still somnambulating to the polling places. On the bright side, this primary season is looking pretty encouraging, at least in the Senate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct in that seniority means nothing with regard to getting re-elected if the electorate wants someone out. What I meant was that seniority currently has a lot to do with leadership positions, committee chairs, and the like. As things stand now, these folks with the power positions have been pretty effective at shutting down the noble efforts of some well meaning junior members to serve the nation. In recent history, we have not done a very good job of voting out legislative leaders that wielded power in their respective houses.</p>
<p>The &#8220;tone&#8221; of leadership acting in this way for their own short-term political benefit, rather than doing what is best for the nation and future generations is a huge problem. That tone will change instantly if they begin to believe that the voters will throw them out on their ears if they keep it up. Again, there is a startling tendency for voters to re-elect their Sen. or Rep. if he/she holds committee chairs even when the person clearly needs to go.</p>
<p>You are also correct in that a real key is to wake-up and educate voters. Sadly, history teaches us that many are very sound sleepers, perhaps even comatose, though still somnambulating to the polling places. On the bright side, this primary season is looking pretty encouraging, at least in the Senate.</p>
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		<title>By: ihateliberals</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihateliberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is that we conservatives have already tried and failed at taking the GOP back.  The elites ate our candidates alive once the were with in the Party that is why a mew party has to be formed and Quash, get rid of the Liberal Republicans. Notice I said Liberal Republicans.  These are the dinosaurs like Boehner, McCain etc that have somehow gained control of the Party.  while they are exactly the same kind of liberal as a Democrat there isn&#039;t really much difference.  They are all ready claiming they want ot keep portions of Obamacare.  They don&#039;t seem to get it.  We The People don&#039;t want nor need Obamacare in any shape or form. We want and need insurance reform not government controlled Healthcare.  There is a big difference.  WE need a two party system for sure and that needs to be Conservatives and liberals.  What we have now is a three party disguised system.  We have a Party of Progressive Liberals and one Party that contains both Progressives and Conservatives and that isn&#039;t working.  As long as we keep sending soldiers into the lions den they wil destroy them unpon arrival just like the did in 2010.  They only way we can fight them and win is on our own terms.  Once we go into the Den it turns into their rules.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that we conservatives have already tried and failed at taking the GOP back.  The elites ate our candidates alive once the were with in the Party that is why a mew party has to be formed and Quash, get rid of the Liberal Republicans. Notice I said Liberal Republicans.  These are the dinosaurs like Boehner, McCain etc that have somehow gained control of the Party.  while they are exactly the same kind of liberal as a Democrat there isn&#8217;t really much difference.  They are all ready claiming they want ot keep portions of Obamacare.  They don&#8217;t seem to get it.  We The People don&#8217;t want nor need Obamacare in any shape or form. We want and need insurance reform not government controlled Healthcare.  There is a big difference.  WE need a two party system for sure and that needs to be Conservatives and liberals.  What we have now is a three party disguised system.  We have a Party of Progressive Liberals and one Party that contains both Progressives and Conservatives and that isn&#8217;t working.  As long as we keep sending soldiers into the lions den they wil destroy them unpon arrival just like the did in 2010.  They only way we can fight them and win is on our own terms.  Once we go into the Den it turns into their rules.</p>
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		<title>By: brojohn2</title>
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		<dc:creator>brojohn2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 19:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the second conservative. The liberal arm of the Republican Party can soon join the Democrats, that is really what they are anyway. McCain talking with Dems about Campaign finance reform  RINO!

The conservative Republicans can keep the name of Republican, but call it the Conservative Republican Party, and then lets go kick some liberal butt. Reinstate the Constitution as the REAL law of the land. Put the election of Senators back into the State Senates not the popular vote, make these jokers responsible to someone who will do something about them. NO MORE career politicians. TERM LIMITS on the pack of these jackals. I don&#039;t care if they are good conservatives or not. I remember when Ron Paul first ran for office, no more than 3 terms he promised, and no raises either. He even returned money for office staff. What happened to him?? CAREER politicians are automatically CROOKS!

Rid us of all of them with term limits, get them out with no more than 2 terms for Senators and 4 for Representatives. Make them go back and live under the laws they stick us with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the second conservative. The liberal arm of the Republican Party can soon join the Democrats, that is really what they are anyway. McCain talking with Dems about Campaign finance reform  RINO!</p>
<p>The conservative Republicans can keep the name of Republican, but call it the Conservative Republican Party, and then lets go kick some liberal butt. Reinstate the Constitution as the REAL law of the land. Put the election of Senators back into the State Senates not the popular vote, make these jokers responsible to someone who will do something about them. NO MORE career politicians. TERM LIMITS on the pack of these jackals. I don&#8217;t care if they are good conservatives or not. I remember when Ron Paul first ran for office, no more than 3 terms he promised, and no raises either. He even returned money for office staff. What happened to him?? CAREER politicians are automatically CROOKS!</p>
<p>Rid us of all of them with term limits, get them out with no more than 2 terms for Senators and 4 for Representatives. Make them go back and live under the laws they stick us with.</p>
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		<title>By: PowerToThePeople</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183855</link>
		<dc:creator>PowerToThePeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 18:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[seniority means nothing, &quot;tone&quot; means nothing, if the people want to get rid of you. Lugar is a prime example of a very powerful politician who learned that the hard way.

All the talk about corruption, tone, term limits, seniority means nothing when the electorate gets involved. If people want real change in politics, they need to spend the time, money, and effort waking voters up and educating them. Nothing else will ever work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seniority means nothing, &#8220;tone&#8221; means nothing, if the people want to get rid of you. Lugar is a prime example of a very powerful politician who learned that the hard way.</p>
<p>All the talk about corruption, tone, term limits, seniority means nothing when the electorate gets involved. If people want real change in politics, they need to spend the time, money, and effort waking voters up and educating them. Nothing else will ever work.</p>
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		<title>By: hayekwasright</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183842</link>
		<dc:creator>hayekwasright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 15:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[either by ballot box or by regulations, there needs to be a restructuring of the value placed on seniority in both houses. Those with seniority pretty much have the power to keep this from happening. Therefore we are mostly back to dramatically changing the tone of both houses before we can make many of the other changes that are needed. We are making good progress with the current Senate primaries, I just hope we can reach the tipping point this November.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>either by ballot box or by regulations, there needs to be a restructuring of the value placed on seniority in both houses. Those with seniority pretty much have the power to keep this from happening. Therefore we are mostly back to dramatically changing the tone of both houses before we can make many of the other changes that are needed. We are making good progress with the current Senate primaries, I just hope we can reach the tipping point this November.</p>
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		<title>By: hayekwasright</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183840</link>
		<dc:creator>hayekwasright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 15:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But another luxury we don&#039;t have is that of time. Unfortunately given the sheeple nature of the voters, it is going to take a long time to replace all the wimps. I do think if the replacements we are able to make now are really strong ones (like Ted Cruz for Kay Bailey Hutchison) we may be able to reach critical mass a little sooner. If the go along to get along crowd realizes that they need to go along with the likes of  Jim DeMint and Mike Lee, we may be able to make headway while some of them are still there. Then we can dump them later and replace them with genuine good folks for the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But another luxury we don&#8217;t have is that of time. Unfortunately given the sheeple nature of the voters, it is going to take a long time to replace all the wimps. I do think if the replacements we are able to make now are really strong ones (like Ted Cruz for Kay Bailey Hutchison) we may be able to reach critical mass a little sooner. If the go along to get along crowd realizes that they need to go along with the likes of  Jim DeMint and Mike Lee, we may be able to make headway while some of them are still there. Then we can dump them later and replace them with genuine good folks for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: PowerToThePeople</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183838</link>
		<dc:creator>PowerToThePeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[term limits that already exist via the election all because of name recognition and stupid voters? Humm, lets look at that lazy thought process for a sec and see if it makes any sense..........

Name recognition. So no new candidates would have name recognition? No one who has served in another branch or is well known through the state would run? How about name recognition via tons of commercials......... This argument is really absurd.

Stupid voters. So somehow term limits will make the voters smarter? Are you saying they will not fall for the new cons lies? Come on........

And you say it will break up corruption. How is that going to be achieved? So somehow replacing everyone every 6, 8, 10 years is going to make them not be corrupt while they are in office?

Absurd, absolutely absurd. 

There are term limits, they are called elections. And if someone needs fired, we need to be educating the voters and making them understand the need for change. Term Limits do nothing to stop the bad stuff and only remove the good ones we have such as DeMint. Term limits are a stupid idea backed by lazy people unwilling to work for what is right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>term limits that already exist via the election all because of name recognition and stupid voters? Humm, lets look at that lazy thought process for a sec and see if it makes any sense&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Name recognition. So no new candidates would have name recognition? No one who has served in another branch or is well known through the state would run? How about name recognition via tons of commercials&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; This argument is really absurd.</p>
<p>Stupid voters. So somehow term limits will make the voters smarter? Are you saying they will not fall for the new cons lies? Come on&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>And you say it will break up corruption. How is that going to be achieved? So somehow replacing everyone every 6, 8, 10 years is going to make them not be corrupt while they are in office?</p>
<p>Absurd, absolutely absurd. </p>
<p>There are term limits, they are called elections. And if someone needs fired, we need to be educating the voters and making them understand the need for change. Term Limits do nothing to stop the bad stuff and only remove the good ones we have such as DeMint. Term limits are a stupid idea backed by lazy people unwilling to work for what is right.</p>
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		<title>By: ihateliberals</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183836</link>
		<dc:creator>ihateliberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 15:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been a Republican all of my life since i learned about politics while in high school. It took me no time at all to understand the the Democrats wanted everyone to be equal. what that meant to me was equally poor. Then I went to War in Vietnam after that I lived in Germany. I know what the free market is all about and I made my fortunes and raised my family to appreciate this country. I raised five children and somehow they are all conservatives. One thing I have learned in all my travels is that a Progressive is an evil person.

What some people can?t get through their heads yet is that there are Progressive Liberal Republicans. A Progressive is a dangerous person and an enemy of freedom as we have known it for the past 236 years. Progressives have to be stopped no matter what their party. They have been infiltrating the Party for many years now and slowly taking it over. Both of the Bush Presidents, Karl Rove, Boehner, McConnell and McCain just to name a very few of them.

As I said in my banner The time has come for a Party of and for The People. We need a WTP party ?We the people?. This needs to happen soon or it may be too late. It may already be too late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a Republican all of my life since i learned about politics while in high school. It took me no time at all to understand the the Democrats wanted everyone to be equal. what that meant to me was equally poor. Then I went to War in Vietnam after that I lived in Germany. I know what the free market is all about and I made my fortunes and raised my family to appreciate this country. I raised five children and somehow they are all conservatives. One thing I have learned in all my travels is that a Progressive is an evil person.</p>
<p>What some people can?t get through their heads yet is that there are Progressive Liberal Republicans. A Progressive is a dangerous person and an enemy of freedom as we have known it for the past 236 years. Progressives have to be stopped no matter what their party. They have been infiltrating the Party for many years now and slowly taking it over. Both of the Bush Presidents, Karl Rove, Boehner, McConnell and McCain just to name a very few of them.</p>
<p>As I said in my banner The time has come for a Party of and for The People. We need a WTP party ?We the people?. This needs to happen soon or it may be too late. It may already be too late.</p>
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		<title>By: johninohio</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183834</link>
		<dc:creator>johninohio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 14:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The word is &#039;toe&#039; the party line. The image is that everyone in the party stands shoulder to shoulder in a straight line by standing with one&#039;s toes on a line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word is &#8216;toe&#8217; the party line. The image is that everyone in the party stands shoulder to shoulder in a straight line by standing with one&#8217;s toes on a line.</p>
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		<title>By: johninohio</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183833</link>
		<dc:creator>johninohio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 14:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[because the incumbent always has the advantage in name recognition and financial backing. And let&#039;s be real--too many of the electorate are easily fooled. Something has to be done to break the cycle of corruption. Especially in the Senate. Six years is too much time for corruption to go unchecked.

Unfortunately though, the SCOTUS has already declared term limits for federal congressmen (not state congressmen) to be unconstitutional. There would need to be a Constitutional amendment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because the incumbent always has the advantage in name recognition and financial backing. And let&#8217;s be real&#8211;too many of the electorate are easily fooled. Something has to be done to break the cycle of corruption. Especially in the Senate. Six years is too much time for corruption to go unchecked.</p>
<p>Unfortunately though, the SCOTUS has already declared term limits for federal congressmen (not state congressmen) to be unconstitutional. There would need to be a Constitutional amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: 2warabnvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>2warabnvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 14:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[for &quot;Boner&quot; &amp; Co. when these newbies arrived in Congress was to force them into line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for &#8220;Boner&#8221; &amp; Co. when these newbies arrived in Congress was to force them into line.</p>
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		<title>By: PowerToThePeople</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183802</link>
		<dc:creator>PowerToThePeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 13:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it is called elections. Get involved and quit crying for something so stupid.

PS Term limits will not stop one bit of the problems in politics and to claim otherwise is moronic. The only thing that will cause politicians to tow the line is an involved electorate. It is a lazy fool who calls for forced term limits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is called elections. Get involved and quit crying for something so stupid.</p>
<p>PS Term limits will not stop one bit of the problems in politics and to claim otherwise is moronic. The only thing that will cause politicians to tow the line is an involved electorate. It is a lazy fool who calls for forced term limits.</p>
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		<title>By: givemefreedom</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183795</link>
		<dc:creator>givemefreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 13:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If not NOW WHEN, if not by the newest members of congress then who?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If not NOW WHEN, if not by the newest members of congress then who?</p>
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		<title>By: givemefreedom</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183793</link>
		<dc:creator>givemefreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 13:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The way to MAKE/FORCE politicians to perform as they promise is to take away the lifetime job guarantee and limit the house members to 4 terms and the senate to 2 terms!
The discussion about all the resultant positives of TERM LIMITS can start in another blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way to MAKE/FORCE politicians to perform as they promise is to take away the lifetime job guarantee and limit the house members to 4 terms and the senate to 2 terms!<br />
The discussion about all the resultant positives of TERM LIMITS can start in another blog.</p>
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		<title>By: funwithknives</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183791</link>
		<dc:creator>funwithknives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 12:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but look at the other side of the page:  Who in their right mind,and what passes for average morality in this age, Wants to be involved with such a sticky, gooey mess. {the one we call politics}

When the registered who do not vote see this process as-is ,why would they WANT To get involved? Many ,seing this mess ,would just scrape it up with a &#039;dozer and haul it away To a dump. {metaphorical, of course}

You ,myself and everyone here Knows non-engagement is futile.&quot;If you do not engage, it catches up to you and runs you down..&quot; ,  is a mantra I espouse constantly.  {...and sends many fleeing...}

How to get them to engage has no set formula. The One Thing I find that is constant, is to take a personal example [affecting them] and make the engagement  totally Their Idea. Once this occurs, more often than not ,they&#039;re off to the races.

Then, you watch them for your old foibles, burnout......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but look at the other side of the page:  Who in their right mind,and what passes for average morality in this age, Wants to be involved with such a sticky, gooey mess. {the one we call politics}</p>
<p>When the registered who do not vote see this process as-is ,why would they WANT To get involved? Many ,seing this mess ,would just scrape it up with a &#8216;dozer and haul it away To a dump. {metaphorical, of course}</p>
<p>You ,myself and everyone here Knows non-engagement is futile.&#8221;If you do not engage, it catches up to you and runs you down..&#8221; ,  is a mantra I espouse constantly.  {&#8230;and sends many fleeing&#8230;}</p>
<p>How to get them to engage has no set formula. The One Thing I find that is constant, is to take a personal example [affecting them] and make the engagement  totally Their Idea. Once this occurs, more often than not ,they&#8217;re off to the races.</p>
<p>Then, you watch them for your old foibles, burnout&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaf1</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/05/16/the-club-for-growths-depressing-study-failure-and-lies-of-the-tea-party-congresscritters/#comment-183778</link>
		<dc:creator>tanstaf1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 11:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While one can agree with the 10 general pro-economic growth goals, it would be nice to know the exact bills or amendments used to tally pro or con votes and whether the votes were for amendments or just the final bill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While one can agree with the 10 general pro-economic growth goals, it would be nice to know the exact bills or amendments used to tally pro or con votes and whether the votes were for amendments or just the final bill.</p>
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