When we compare our present state of health care with that of countries with socialized medicine, such as Canada and Great Britain, there is one giant difference that is almost never pointed out. It may be alluded to in passing, but it’s almost never addressed directly. I’ll get to it in a few paragraphs, but first, how are the systems similar?
First, some people never get the treatment they need, under both systems. This is undeniable.
Second, some people have access to better health care providers than do others. Often it’s the richer patients who get the better care. Be real. Richer folks always can get better anything. It’s life.
Third, both systems have entrenched networks of doctors and a bureaucracy who have a vested interest in keeping the system in place, and a contrasting network of doctors who say the system is failing.
Fourth, patients might have to wait for treatment under both systems.
Now, for the difference that doesn’t rate a mention in the news, and it’s the reason that our system is the one that patients from other systems fall back on when they run into similarity number one.
Patients in the United States might not get the treatment they need because of its high cost, lack of insurance, or rejection by their insurance carrier. But if they run into this situation, they have recourse. They can borrow money to pay. Friends and neighbors fund-raise for them. Doctors and hospitals reduce their fees, or grant them long repayment schedules. They even take credit cards. Still, some don’t get treated.
Patients in Canada might not get treatment they need because they have to wait so long for it (issue number four) that it’s no longer effective, or they’ve died. But it isn’t because they couldn’t pay for it. It’s because there is no doctor or facility to deliver the care.
Simply put, in the US we might have some patients who get no treatment because they can’t afford it. In Canada, they don’t get treatment because it isn’t available.
Under which of these systems would you rather live? One where you might not be able to afford care, yet there are ways to make it affordable, or one where the care might just be not there at all, one where you can’t get it whether you can afford it or not?
I go with the former.
Jeff Emanuel
Neil Stevens
Excellent observation, Flagstaff
civil truth (Diary) Tuesday, July 21st at 9:38PM EDT (link)Not only that, but we will likely also see the dismantling of R&D – at least in much of the private sector – which will slow down or halt medical treatment advances.
So not only will medical care be unavailable, many medical advance will never see the light of day – which means that people will die or suffer unnecessarily because of treatment that ObamaCare prevents.
So just as Obama likes to talk about “jobs saved” from Porkulus, perhaps we should take a leaf from that playbook and talk about “lives lost” from ObamaCare.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
I like that "lives lost" idea.
Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, July 21st at 11:22PM EDT (link)Except that “jobs saved” is an imaginary, made up, never knowable, politically malleable, based on nothing, unreal number.
“Lives lost” is imaginary and speculative, that is “made up,” now, but they will be real when the time comes.
I’d hate to have to descend to their level.
I really wanted to stress, however, that we are facing a “fork-in-the-road,” (which I have heard this week) where we are choosing between a system that can give us the moon in terms of medical advances, some of which will be unaffordable in the near future for some of us, and a system that will stagnate to the point that even if these advances come from elsewhere, there will be no way to deliver them to those who need them in a timely manner. “In a timely manner” is a way of saying “before the patient dies.” Fewer people will receive worse treatment.
Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977
This analogy and comparison goes to the heart of what makes America unique
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, July 22nd at 8:56AM EDT (link)Only in America has the wealth been available to make so many prosperous; the poor obese and to build a military superior to the megalomaniacal nations that enslave others to conquer territory.
Why is that wealth “available”? Because our liberty gives people the incentive to create it in the first place.
Liberals take the existence of wealth to pay for their supposed Utopia for granted.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Another simple way to think of it
bk (Diary) Tuesday, July 21st at 11:27PM EDT (link)Try to make a mental comparison of how often you’ve heard of Americans going abroad for any sort of fairly normal treatment vs how often you hear stories of people from Canada, Mexico, England, etc., etc., coming here for treatment. If Michael Moore needs to see a doctor I don’t think he goes to Cuba to do it.
However, it would be nice if he did. nt
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, July 22nd at 12:08AM EDT (link)Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977
Only if he stayed... -nt-
civil truth (Diary) Wednesday, July 22nd at 12:16AM EDT (link)The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
Chances are good that if he went there for a serious health problem
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, July 22nd at 12:19AM EDT (link)it would be a permanent stay.
Let’s donate to a stomach stapling for him. And a shave.
Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977