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Stimulus? We don’t need no stinkin’ stimulus.

Why another stimulus package would be a mistake

Whether the stimulus package didn’t work, or worked, is still working, worked but then quit working, was too little, too big, needs a second phase, or was juuuust right, is again becoming a matter of discussion among the ruling class.  No, I must amend that.  They are sure that at some level it worked.  For them the only question is how much to expand it and they don’t care much about those other questions.

For us in the country class the questions are more important, because we like to know if and why something works or doesn’t.  You know, so we can decide whether to do it again or not.

I’d like to offer a few ideas and ask some questions about The Stimulus.

What was the stimulus supposed to do?

Jump start the economy, or at least rev it up a little, and “save” jobs and create jobs.

It did none of that very well.  After the appropriation of over $800 billion, with the Administration demanding that it be passed immediately because the situation was dire, official unemployment rates are still at almost ten percent.  A good chunk of it (more than $300 billion) isn’t even in the economy, having not yet been spent for anything.  Forecast economic growth has just been adjusted downward by the Federal Reserve, from over 3% for 2011 to 2.7%.  That estimate is probably optimistic.  But enough of the numbers.

The real point is that a stimulus by definition is a short-term remedy.  It is supposed to work NOW, not next year.  It’s supposed to be, no, it has to be temporary.  If it’s to save jobs, it has to save them NOW.  It can’t be strung out over 2, 3, or 4 years.  Otherwise, it’s just another way for the government to overspend for the Administration’s own pet projects.  Yet, that’s the way the money in this stimulus package has been spent.

There are some requirements for success.

Any stimulus must come from borrowed funds.

No stimulus can work if it has to be paid for by collecting taxes at the same time to replace it.  That is just a game of taking money from one pocket (the taxpayer’s) and putting it in another one (the pockets of favored interests), with a good bit of it taken off the top to pay the bureaucracy.  So a successful stimulus has to be from borrowed funds. Remember this for later.  The idea is that we are borrowing from the future to avert catastrophe now, and we will pay it back after things are stabilized.  We are creating jobs now that will contribute to the growth of GDP now, which helps to repay the borrowed money in the future.  If that isn’t what happens, it doesn’t make sense to borrow the money and pay interest on it.  And the idea of paying for the stimulus by cutting some other program doesn’t make much sense either, even if it moves the spending up from the end of the year to the front.  It’s still moving money between pockets.

Stimulus funds must be spent quickly.

No stimulus can work if the funds that are supposed to be spent are not spent.  In fact, unspent appropriations work against a recovery by creating negative expectations.  They become part of the anticipated debt without contributing to any increase in economic activity.  Public expectation of higher government debt without realization of greater economic activity leads to anticipation of higher future tax collections and/or inflation, which depresses the current economy.

Governments make bad decisions regarding how to spend stimulus money.

They have already prioritized what they thought our taxes were going to be spent on.  Now they’ve appropriated billions of dollar more and they have to decide where to spend it.  The answer ALWAYS is to spend it on the administration’s and Congress’s pet projects:  Green energy projects.  Subsidies paid to individual states to prop up their payrolls, which amounts to subsidies to state employee union members.  Payments to states to cover expenses they can no longer afford, which delays their attempt to solve the underlying problem–excessive spending.  Payments to cities to hire more police or fire or garbage men.  Moving forward purchases of goods and capital improvements that had been planned for later years.  (That one isn’t too bad.  At least we would have something to show for the expenditures.)  The money NEVER goes where a consumer would spend it.

The trouble with these ideas and the others they come up with is that once the stimulus money is gone, they aren’t self-sustaining.  The states and cities still don’t have balanced budgets, corrective changes haven’t been made, and now they have even higher expenses (larger payrolls) and greater deferred obligations (pensions).  Now IF the economy has turned around in a year maybe that’s not too bad, but if it hasn’t it just makes things worse, and the economy is in a downward spiral.

Trusting the country class is the answer.

IF there is a true need to boost the economy, we should keep in mind that we have a consumer economy.  It’s driven by 300 million consumers, and those millions of consumers have more effect on the economy than any one-year infusion of even $600 billion by the government into specific industries, states, or companies.  $600 billion is only $2000 times our 300 million population.  Of course they haven’t even spent $600 billion yet.  Maybe just barely $400 billion.

But–had our government simply given rebates to taxpayers that come to a total of a few hundred billion dollars, the people would have been able to decide where that money would be spent.  It would have stimulated the businesses that the consumers wanted, and ignored the ones they didn’t.  There would be no false support for profligate state or city governments–they’d have to get their own spending under control.  Government worker and teacher unions would face the right questions–do they accept change, or do they accept unemployment?  Cutting edge technology companies would have to convince investors that they were developing a good product, one that people would want to buy.

What’s the theory behind a stimulus?

The theory is that a short-term infusion of a large amount of additional money into our economic system can sustain it past a temporary crisis caused by an anomaly:  The sub-prime mortgage crisis, made either better or worse by TARP funds, leading to the near-collapse of the world financial system and several US financial entities, rising unemployment, the government takeover of two bankrupt car companies primarily at the expense of their creditors, government direction oversight of those financial entities, doubling of the previous annual deficit leading to a runaway increase in the national debt.  Only all that’s clearly not an anomaly.  It’s a whole bagful of mistakes, most of them instigated by government intervention in the economy.  Still, it might be controllable, IF it were just a one-time event.  However, the government’s insertion of itself into the health care industry has guaranteed that deficits will be astronomical by historical standards for the foreseeable future.  Although true-believers might argue that point, sensible people will not.

Our national debt has just reached $13 trillion, while our GDP is in the $14 trillion range.  Debt will soon exceed GDP, perhaps by the end of this year.  For comparison, national debt was less than half that at the end of 2002, and it was less than 60% of GDP.  More interestingly, just one month before the elections in 2008 debt was a full $3 trillion less than it is now.  Debt increased by $4 trillion from January 1, 2003 to October 2008;  it increased almost as much from October 2008 to August 2010–70 months compared to 22 months.  It’s predicted by the Administration to hit $20 trillion within ten years, and it may not take that long.

At this point, anything that increases government debt that isn’t absolutely necessary makes the recovery more remote, the situation worse.  Much worse.  The effect of galloping deficits and mushrooming debt is to destroy confidence in both the government and the economy.  When consumers and producers and employers lose confidence in the economy, they quit buying, cut production, and cease hiring if they aren’t firing.  The only solutions for such deficits and debt levels are Draconian taxes at levels that will kill economic growth, or worse; high inflation as the government monetizes its debt; and/or massive cuts in government spending.  Since massive cuts in spending have never happened in recent history, private expectations are for either or both of the first two alternatives.

Off topic?

Not really.  A stimulus package cannot possibly counter all those negative factors.  The only thing that can is to restore confidence.  In the environment I just described, the single biggest boost to confidence would be delivered by the cancellation of ObamaCare, which won’t happen until Obama leaves office (another boost).  In the meantime, defunding it  would help.  Cut the budget and we cut the need for higher tax receipts.  A good beginning would be to return the unspent stimulus funds back to the Treasury.  Freeze the size of the civilian government workforce, and freeze government pay schedules in place.

If we do that, the future will look better and confidence will start to improve because the government will be displaying fiscal restraint.  The deficit will shrink.  GDP will grow, shrinking it faster.  Eventual inflation will start to look manageable.

And remember what I wrote above–to even have a chance for success a stimulus package must be paid for with borrowed funds.  In this environment, more borrowing would be counterproductive.  The next-to-last thing we need now is for unnecessary expenditures that add to the deficit.  The last thing we need is tax increases that take money out of consumers’ and producers’ pockets for redistribution by bureaucrats.  So no, we don’t need no stinkin’ stimulus.

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  • Death_of_the_Donkey

    1) Tax rebates were unlikely to work, since this is an atypical recession and (ie a credit collapse) and consumers were (and still are) in the process of reducing their debt loads (ie the rebates may have just been saved).
    2) Remember that classical Keynesian theory assumes that during good times government will run a surplus or break even. We essentially had $4 trillion in stimulus during the 7 years prior to the recession, thus greatly reducing the incremental impact of additional stimulus.
    3) A good deal of our current deficit problem is from a decline in receipts which are still roughly down 12% from their pre-recession highs (they are now well of the lows though).
    4) At some point we are going to have to accept that we are going to need both spending cuts AND tax increases in order to get our debt under control and to relieve the burden the last 30 years or so have placed on future generations (remember that we have greatly benefited from dramatically falling and low interest rates over this period).
    5) In other words. The stimulus could have been much better targeted and timely, but it still would have likely had less marginal effect since we have been living in a country awash in stimulus over the past decade.

    • http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/blog/loren_heal Socrates

      We don’t need tax increases. We need spending cuts, giant, deep, and structural spending cuts. We need to eliminate whole Departments (like Education and Transportation) and cut the rest down to FY2000 levels.

      If you increase taxes, they will just spend the money.

      Keynesian theory is stupid and wrong. It’s premise is that economic downturns are to be avoided because they are painful. But missing is a downturn’s instructive and creative impact: we learn what doesn’t work right now. We need pain to help find the right way out.

      Built into Keynesianism is the extra-stupid idea that all demand is equal. That’s plainly false: does building a road stimulate the economy? Well, what about building a second one parallel to it, or a third? Clearly, every dollar doesn’t have the same return. And yet that is Keynesian.

      • Death_of_the_Donkey

        I was pointing out that his economic theories shouldn’t even be applied in our circumstance. Also, we will need tax increases to reduce our debt even with drastic spending cuts (I believe we need both). We need to get taxes to around 19% of GDP (and keep them there), while getting expenditures back below that number. And while, I agree that typical business cycle downturns have a beneficial longer term impact on efficiency and growth, credit crisis recessions do not unless we identify the causes of said crisis and change them (ie ratings agencies, loan standards, trade imbalance, commodity speculation, leverage, etc), which we have not done.

    • Flagstaff

      1) It wouldn’t matter if consumers did spend their extra disposable income on paying down their debt. I’m doing it right now. Reduce your personal debt and tow things happen. Your interest expense goes down, giving you even MORE money, and lenders receive their capital back enabling them to make new, better loans. Good for you, good for them.
      2) What reduces the incremental impact of the $800 billion stimulus is its relationship to the total economy and the fact that its spending is targeted by government, not by the people who will need to continue to support the enterprises that survive.
      3) That’s an unavoidable effect of a “recession” unless a response to the recession includes a reduction in tax rates.
      4) Tax increases? Rates or receipts? Neither one has ever helped generate a recovery. (See Soc’s reply) If higher taxes are “bad” now, why would they be “good” later?
      5) You’re playing fast and loose with the meaning of words.

      • Death_of_the_Donkey

        1) Long-term sure, but as we are seeing right now, it has no impact in the short run (debt service as percent of disposable income is down and savings are up). Consumers aren’t consuming and banks still aren’t lending.
        2) Look, you are preaching to the choir. I was never a fan of the stimulus as a package and was simply pointing out other reasons as to why it wouldn’t work besides the obvious ones.
        3) You aren’t actually trying to say that lowering taxes in a recession will produce more revenue, right?
        4) Well, I think I answered it below, but I think what we need is a policy to stick to a certain level of receipts (as percentage of GDP) and have built in escalators (both up and down) to keep revenues at this level (excepting out recessions for obvious reasons). And again, I am advocating spending cuts that would enable us to actually reduce our debt. Without debt service payments, tax rates can be quite a bit lower.
        5) Oh, I don’t think so. One can easily look at stimulus as any government spending beyond the level its current receipts could support. In that respect we have had many years of “stimulus” even if it wasn’t in some fancy pre-packaged form.

        • Flagstaff

          3) Yes. I’m not just trying to say it, I am saying it. It will produce more revenue sooner than raising rates will.

  • http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/blog/loren_heal Socrates

    The only time a stimulus has even a theoretical chance of working is if the government has the money in the bank. And it won’t work even then, because government always spends on the wrong things. It can’t help itself.

    Take, for instance, the concept of a “saved” job. Now, it’s hard to tell what jobs are saved by government money, but that’s actually beside the point.

    Because the jobs government saves, like the mortgages it props up and the businesses is bails out, are exactly the ones that should go away. These are jobs, mortgages, and business the economy no longer needs.

    Likewise, the businesses that government thinks should be created (green this or sustainable that) are never the right ones. Because if they were the right ones, the free market would already be producing them.

    • Death_of_the_Donkey

      I agree wholeheartedly, but since our government already skews the market in many industries, subsidies are needed in order for potential new ones to compete with the established subsidized ones (I am thinking energy here). A nice level playing field where each business has to account for all of its costs (including societal ones) would be the ideal market leading to optimal business discovery.

      • http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/blog/loren_heal Socrates

        Since the government skews the market, it has to pick winners, too?

        • Death_of_the_Donkey

          My point was that government should get out of skewing the market. But, since it won’t, you almost have to subsidize new technologies or they will never be able to get out of development since the artificial prices set through subsidies on existing industries do not reflect their actual cost, while the new technologies are paying full freight.

          • Flagstaff

            to change government behavior. Quit skewing markets. Gradually or quickly.

            For empirical data, check out Spain’s “green” industries. The pain in Spain falls mainly from the greens.

          • Death_of_the_Donkey

            We subsidize the heck out of oil/nat gas/coal so that solar and wind then need more subsidies to compete (and maybe they can’t in a subsidy free world, but it would be nice to let the actual market decide) and in the end the taxpayer eats the bill instead of the end user. And don’t even get me started on ethanol.

          • eburke

            opposite direction of fixing the problem?

            Because that’s what you’re recommending here.

          • Death_of_the_Donkey

            is to end ALL the subsidies. That is the ideal solution.

          • eburke

            going to happen, then subsidies were needed for things that otherwise wouldn’t get off the ground.

            To me that’s analagous to saying that even do we don’t like affirmative action, the fact that it’s already in place means that to be fair we need to extend it to more people.

            My belief is that same as either SCOTUS Justice Roberts (or was it Alito) who said, quite simply, the only way to stop discriminating is to stop discriminating.

            The way to level the playing field is to stop all subsidies, not extend them to even *more* industries which is what this comment of yours is promoting:

            “My point was that government should get out of skewing the market. But, since it won?t, you almost have to subsidize new technologies or they will never be able to get out of development”

          • Death_of_the_Donkey

            I do support ending all government subsidies, I want to get that out of the way.

            However, if we are going to keep subsidizing the heck out of the current energy industry, then you almost have to subsidize solar/wind or else they will never develop, even if in fact they are the superior technology (personally, I think nuclear would win out in a subsidy less and fairly regulated world). So in order for any technological advances to be made we will need further subsidies because of the current ones in place now. I am not in favor of any subsidies, but without them (and with coal getting its’) then government will actually hinder potential progress.

          • http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/blog/loren_heal Socrates

            if we are going to keep subsidizing the heck out of the current energy industry, then you almost have to subsidize solar/wind or else they will never develop…

            We are not subsidizing the current energy industry. Yes, there are governmental programs, like the interstate highway system, that insulate the oil market from finding customers, but that isn’t a direct subsidy. On the other hand, the industry is taxed like mad. There are carveouts and credits here and there, but nothing like the amount they pay.

            “Then you almost have to …”: Why? And why “almost”? And since it’s almost, that means it’s optional.

            And so what if they never develop? What that means is they aren’t needed. Experience tells us that when these things are needed (because conventional supplies are too expensive), they will be there.

          • Death_of_the_Donkey

            http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/servicerpt/subsidy2/pdf/execsum.pdf

            That is a report from EIA at the request of Senator Lamar Alexander that shows $16 billion in total subsidies (including renewables for electricity generation) and another $9 billion for non-electricity production fuels (ie like ethanol). So that is $27 billion per year in energy industry subsidies just from the Feds (many states also subsidize energy).

      • eastbaylarry

        If this were really the best idea, and if the government was actually doing this 100 years ago, then today there would be a large buggy whip industry in this country running 100% on subsidies.

        There is nothing a government *can* do in a free market that does not end up being a disaster. ALL subsidies need to go away, especailly any that include the word ‘green’, (that includes ethanol subsides too).

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      while I crowed for what we know works, i.e. supply-side tax cuts, regulation cuts, etc in 2009, I also favored extended unemployment benefits and MASSIVE public works stimulus, that we never got.

      I do think some good psychological effect even if small econ effect, along with the re-building of assets like roads and bridges would justify that kind of stimulus.

      What we got was revenue sharing to keep states from having to fire/lay-off union democrat voters in state and local govt jobs that were and are NON-essential.

      • Flagstaff

        intended to revive a staggering economy, anything that goes into the private economy that isn’t simple waste and that isn’t simultaneously extracted from the same economy can be stimulative.

        Extension of unemployment benefits can fit that description. The question is, do such extensions help, or in the end not help very much or hurt? I don’t have the stats to know if he’s right, but which Obama Administration official was it (Larry Summers?) that said extending such benefits tend to extend the average period of unemployment? But since the benefits may not be that large and are paid to just a relatively small subset of the population (fortunately), they also don’t have much stimulative effect. What they do is help some people stay afloat until the can find a place to land. But they ARE stimulative, and that last extension should have been paid out of stimulus funds.

        Massive public works can definitely help, too. An advantage I didn’t mention above is that their outcome is capital improvement that is needed but hadn’t yet been budgeted. Those improvements don’t then need to be done again later. The hard part, as you note, is that they don’t get done quickly, if at all. Because they are construction industry centric, they provide a true stimulus to just a sector of the economy. A large one, but still a sector. Better than nothing, though, and far better than hiring new city, state, or federal employees.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
        • Flagstaff

          I should have said “better than what they’ve done.” In fact, “nothing” would be better than what they’ve done. The English language is strange, isn’t it?

        • Achance

          paying Davis-Bacon wages means that they employ very little of that very expensive labor and the projects take forever to finish. D-B jobs on a PLA cost two or three times what a privately funded, non-union project would cost.

          Davis-Bacon is supposed to guarantee that publicly funded jobs don’t drag down local wages and conditions by establishing the “prevailing wage” for each trade and craft in an area. There are whole big most federally funded sections in your state’s Department of Labor that do nothing but review contractor payrolls and make sure they’re paying D-B and also establishing what the prevailing wage should be. Here’s a flash: Departments of Labor are OWNED by unions. In a union state, you aren’t even going to get a job in one without being vetted by the unions. Consequently, the only people actually making that D-B “prevailing wage” are the guys, mostly, who are working on publicly funded construction jobs. One of the sad realities of union dispatching for these jobs is the seniority system. Consequently those bikini-clad babes that every union rep worth his salt took to bed in exchange for getting her a flagger job back in the heyday of the ’70s and ’80s here is STILL the flag “girl” because she has seniority, but you don’t want to see her in a bikini these days.

          • Flagstaff

            I couldn’t do that as well as you did because my knowledge is more general and doesn’t include that info. All I could say was “anything that goes into the private economy that isn?t simple waste….”

            Your comment is a lot better.

  • texasgalt

    I need the government to back the heck off. Quit bringing bogus actions against me. Quit making me collect child support, FICA, back taxes and sales tax without compensating me. Stop getting between me and my employees. Stop getting between me and the customers. Stop inventing new, insane building code requirements. Repeal the 2000 pages of government mandated health care. Stop the insane Fed policy of ZERO interest rates. Stop taxing me at confiscatory rates.

    Or we can go on with the status quo and have 20 years of no growth, like Japan.

  • Flagstaff

    I read that President Obama has proposed (detailed in an article quoted from USA Today’s Dennis Caushon on 8/10/2010) to raise civilian

    http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20100810/BUSINESS/100810004/Federal+pay+tops+private+workers

    and military

    http://www.airforcetimes.com/benefits/pay/military_2011_pay_raise_020410w/

    pay scales by 1.4% in 2011. Obama also “ordered a freeze on bonuses for 2,900 political appointees.”

    1.4% is a small increase, compared to recent years.

    “Congressional Republicans want to cancel the across-the-board increase in 2011, which would save $2.2 billion,” although Rep. Joe Wilson suggests that the military segment should be 1.9%, in keeping with the effort of recent years to achieve parity or military pay with civilian government pay.

    ‘”Americans are fed up with public employee pay scales far exceeding that in the private sector,” says Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., the second-ranking Republican in the House.’

    Data from the NJ/USA Today article:

    “? Benefits ? Federal workers received average benefits worth $41,791 in 2009. Most of this was the government’s contribution to pensions. Employees contributed an additional $10,569.

    ? Pay ? The average federal salary has grown 33 percent faster than inflation since 2000. USA TODAY reported in March that the federal government pays an average of 20 percent more than private firms for comparable occupations. The analysis did not consider differences in experience and education.

    ? Total compensation ? Federal compensation has grown 36.9 percent since 2000 after adjusting for inflation compared with 8.8 percent for private workers.”

    Reducing the salary increase (in the old days, Democrats would call that a cut in pay) to a 1.4% rate sounds good, but it’s not. Did you even know he’d proposed it? To have any stimulative effect, he has to demand a freeze–no increase of any kind in the schedules.

  • Flagstaff

    This article looks at recovery from a different perspective; recovery through “encouraging productive investment.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704388504575418964014417740.html?mod=djempersonal#articleTabs%3Darticle

    “Stimulus by infused demand” must be followed by policies that support continued business and economic growth which can sustain consumer demand.