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Will Indiana choose right-to-work?

Indiana Republicans want to make the state a right-to-work state. Instead of being required to pay dues to the unions there, employees would instead have the right to refuse union membership and keep their money.

Bills filed in the Indiana House that would ban workers from being required to pay union dues could spark a debate so divisive that Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels wants to avoid the issue.

The so-called right-to-work legislation has been filed by Republicans who gained a House majority in the November election. Labor Committee Chairman Doug Gutwein of Francesville says he supports such a law, but doesn’t know yet whether the committee will consider it.

Predictably, Democrats oppose the measure. Their links to Big Labor have been well documented. Right-to-work states limit the ability of Big Labor to organize and forcibly collect dues from employees. Since Big Labor supports the Democrats, Democrats oppose right-to-work laws.

Right-to-work laws essentially allow individuals who don’t want to be forced to hand over part of their paycheck to union bosses to keep their full paycheck. Laws vary by state, but these employees are generally paid the same as unionized employees, and are supposed to receive the same protections the union offers its members.

The alternative is the union-shop state, where every employee is required to pay dues to the union, if one exists, even if they chose not to join. Indiana currently falls into this category.

During college, I lived in a union-shop state and worked for two different employers, one unionized, one not. Both were major retailers and I held the same job in both companies. Both were “premium service” stores with many value-added services. While covering different markets and being different in overall size, they were both large companies and in many ways very similar. My experiences, however, were very different.

While working for the unionized company, I had $12.50 per week removed from my paycheck and handed over to a subsidiary of the AFL-CIO, no matter how many hours I worked. If I didn’t work in a particular week, an additional $12.50 was removed from the following paycheck. In exchange for this I had no health insurance, no work stability, hostile middle managers, limited strike benefits (I was part-time) and the one “benefit” that I did see was discounted admission to Six Flags.

After seven months with the unionized company, I moved. Thankfully, the nearest store was too far away to be practical and no positions were open at the time. So I took a couple of months off and depleted my savings before taking on a new job with the non-union store.

For the same job function, I recieved better pay ($1.75 more per hour!), health insurance, a stable work schedule and friendly managers at all levels. I never had to worry about a strike. There were monthly company barbecues where individual and team awards (with real rewards) were handed out. The opportunity to advance or change positions felt real, and I saw multiple people earn promotions or department transfers within a few months.

Had the state been a right-to-work state, I could have worked at the first company and chosen not to pay dues to the union. I’d have kept my $12.50 for myself (what a horrific thing to do!). My money would have been used to pay my bills and build my savings instead of supporting an organization with a leftist ideology that acts to support politicians that directly oppose my personal views.

The fact is, Big Labor is not a friend to conservatives. Unions support liberals and socialists who harm employers in favor of the short-term interests of the union leadership. According to the Washington Times blurb, Governor Daniels appears hesitant to spend political capital on facing-down Big Labor. If that’s the case, it’s a long-term losing strategy for Republicans, who will face better-organized, better-funded campaigns with strong union backing.

If employees want to join together in a union, they have that right. Forcing individuals to pay an organization with whom they may have ideological or other disagreements, or from whom they see no benefits isn’t a protection, it’s a violation of an individual’s right of free association. If a union is really beneficial, then the employees will join and pay dues voluntarily; if it is not, employees should have every right to opt-out.

COMMENTS

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    to require unions to supply Beck information to all members automatically. I think when members find out what they are paying for political activities they’ll keep that portion of their dues.

    • http://www.laborunionreport.com LaborUnionReport

      Employers can do the same…

      • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

        Instead of making Beck an “opt-out” I’d use Beck and make payment of the non-bargaining related portion of dues an “opt-in”.

  • The_Gadfly

    he needs to get on the right side of this issue and quickly. The slings and arrows of Big Labor don’t diminish when you move to The Big White Office.

    • aesthete

      Good way to further demonstrate that IN is a safe location for businesses to invest in, as well.

    • http://Blackberrybear.etsy.com knitwit

      and trying to stay on the fence out of the fight!

      • IJB
    • LibertarianHawk

      It’s being reported that he opposes the Right-to-Work legislation. That is not true.

      Rather, he has said that he doesn’t want it derailing his legislative priorities (which primarily have to do with the budget, local government reform, and education).

      The problem is that the Democrats still have the power to trump the whole process by denying the Republicans a quorum in the House. They’ve done it in the past and they will almost certainly do it again to prevent Right To Work from passing.

      What ought to happen here is that House and Senate Republicans should agree to table Right to Work until they get Daniels’ priorities passed…..at which time he’ll agree to support the movement of Right To Work.

      You can say that it’s not a high enough priority for him. And that may be a valid criticism. But you cannot say he’s “only the wrong side” of the issue. In fact, I think he’s even gone so far as to say that he’d sign it if it landed on his desk.

      • The_Gadfly

        It worked so well for Kerry in his campaign.

        You may be correct, his position may be more nuanced, but given the current mood of the country vis-a-vie the debt, and vis-a-vie unions, nuanced doesn’t cut it for somebody who wants to run for President in 2012. If he wants to stay in IN, be governor, and stick with his nuanced position that’s fine.

  • grandma

    Daniels’ rhinoscopic colors are showing in this.

  • Castor

    With Republican governors and majorities in state legislatures we must push Ohio,Wisconsin,Pennsylvania,Michigan,Maine and Iowa to do the same.
    Right to Work for everybody. The Beck decision posted in every work place,photo ID like Indiana’s to vote and E Verify to work.
    Oops,I didn’t mention New Hampshire.There are enough Republicans there to overide Lynch’s veto!

    • Jim Tomasik

      I learned to hate unions as a small boy sitting in a car at a picket line in Ohio with my father. It was GoodYear Areospace. He had just gone back to work after a devastatingly long layoff. They were striking for more pay. I think my father should have been happy just to have a job and not been part of a group of people demanding better pay at a company who was having a hard time keeping everyone working.

      He told me that he had to go along with what the union voted to do. I was probably six years old and knew enough to know that this made no sense.

      When he finallly moved us to TN, he was never again layed off and never went on strike again until he retired even though he insisted on a union company to work at.

      • Deskpilot

        as a part-timer. I too had $12.00 stolen from every paycheck. I NEVER saw, used, or was made aware of a single benefit for being ing that MEAT CUTTERS Union of Acme Markets of Delaware. One slow afternoon, I completed the deli slicing order for a CUSTOMER. She then said that she had not been able to find a particular soft drink product where it would normally be stocked. I siad I would look in the stock area. I found it and walked the store to find her. She was so grateful for my effort, she had the General Manager paged to praise my customer service. When I returned to the Deli, my superviosr chastised me for doing the job of the foks in the GROCERS Unio. I VERY FORCEFULL told her that my nametag said AMCE, not UNION and she was a ACME CUSTOMER, and that if she EVER QUESTION my customer service again, she would be dancing in front of the manager before she could exhale her next breath. She NEVER said anything EVER AGAIN.
        I vowed to never be in a union shop again. I’ sooner stay part of the 9.8%

  • http://soleynm.blogspot.com/ soleynm

    Unions and the left are like peas in a pod. The left relies on the Unions to do their dirty work, and the Union elite rely on the left to keep them strong against the will of the average union member.

  • flamerock

    While I believe that his being our governor has been far better than a continuation of the dreary last 16 years of Bayh/O’Bannon/Kernan, there remain some things about him that leave me cold.

    Among them are his squishyness on social issues – and I believe that opposing more Big Labor power grabs and rolling back their positions whenever possible to be a major social issue in that ending (or at least severely diminishing) the unions’ stranglehold over the American economy would only help more people have jobs that would reduce overall dependence on government largesse.

    If Mitch has any thoughts about perhaps running for any office in 2012, he needs to get on board with this proposed legislation. Now.

    • LibertarianHawk

      If you want to say that this ought to be a higher priority for him than his budgetary and education reforms, then that’s fine.

      But it is simply NOT TRUE that he opposes the right to work legislation. Rather, his point here is grounded in the likelihood that Right-to-Work is unlikely to pass because Republicans don’t have the numbers in the House. If Democrats remain united against RTW (which, let’s face it, they will), then all they need to do is walk out and it will fail.

      And, not only will it fail, the entire session will have gone up in smoke — so not only does RTW stall, but so does the rest of his agenda.

      What needs to happen here is an agreement between Daniels and legislative Republicans: pass his stuff first, then he’ll clear the path for RTW.

      But it’s not going to pass….I’m just warning you.

      • Right Reason

        I think, by and large, we have had it up to here (takes elevator to top of Empire State Building, climbs step ladder, holds hand over top of head) with people on “our side” who give up without firing a shot. I don’t buy that RTW needs to be tabled so that the Dems play along on the other items.
        1.) Dems don’t play that way, only our squishes do (see the START treaty). Dems will oppose it all regardless what conciliations we make.
        2.) If it’s popular, and I would imagine it is, PUSH FOR IT. Force the Dems to be on record opposing it. Daniels’ way just lets them off the hook.
        3.)”What needs to happen here is an agreement between Daniels and legislative Republicans: pass his stuff first, then he

        • JSobieski

          Agreed, Daniels is too timid in his statements

          Daniels actually governs better than he talks (opposite of most politicians), but what a leader says matters.

          Unilateral proactive timidity is not the way to get things done.

          At a minimum, a US president cannot operate in a stealth/understated mode. At a governor in certain places, that may be effective–but it is not an option for a US president.

          • LibertarianHawk

            The guy has a spine of steel, JSob, when it comes to things he wants to see.

            I remember, after a big budget battle a few years ago, a Democratic legislator from Gary was quoted saying (paraphrasing) “I admire the governor a lot. He may be a small man, but he stands up tall, proud, and strong for what he believes is right. He’s got guts.”

            I support RTW legislation, BTW. I’d love to see it happen. And I don’t know whether it’s right or wrong for it not to be one of his top priorities as compared to those things which are.

            But it is where it is on his agenda — and it would be nice if Indiana Republicans show they can govern effectively with both Houses and the governor’s office.

            If, like me, he doubts that RTW has any real chance of passage, it makes sense for him to take the tact he is. Get what he wants done first and then he’ll clear the path for RTW afterwards.

            That’s the best way to proceed.

        • LibertarianHawk

          Keep in mind that he has already laid down some very clear — and pretty ambitious — priorities for the legislative session. Now, you may not agree that his priorities are in the right order. But that’s a different discussion entirely.

          Moreover, he put a huge amount of effort (and money) in getting the legislature he wanted and needed to move this agenda forward. The guy was all over the state trying to elect Republican legislators — and always making a point of saying what he wanted them for.

          The Democrats are holding a huge trump card — the right to deny a quorum. And they’ve not only used it before, they used it on him back in 2005. It’s not hard for them to do.

          They would pay virtually no political price for opposing right-to-work. Trust me on this. And all it would do is jeopardize the agenda he laid out in town after town in the 2010 campaign.

          You can agree with that or disagree with it. I just don’t want to hear anybody say that he opposes RTW. He doesn’t — he said he would sign it if it got to his desk.

          It’s just that it probably won’t get to his desk whether he pushes it or not. So what would be the point of blowing up the whole session for naught?

          • Right Reason

            that they would pay no political price for opposing right to work legislation, IF voters were made aware of it. And I am almost certain that they WOULD pay a politcal price for shutting down Indiana’s business to save their union buddies by refusing to convene with the assembly. I remeber that it worked really well for the Democrats in TX who fled the state to try and stop redistricting in 2003.

            I’m not saying that Daniels doesn’t support RTW. What I am saying is that “I’ll sign it if it gets to my desk” is not leadership – ESPECIALLY from someone with Presidential aspirations.

          • aesthete

            It’d be great if we got right-to-work to pass, but that’s easier said than done. Let’s not forget how Arnold Schwarzenegger’s ambitious agenda via a vis unions caused Dems to destroy him and allowed them to neuter him. We should be hard on our pols while recognizing that their states impose various limitations on what they (and we) want.

          • JSobieski

            and Mitch’s reticence in IN.

            Politics is dynamic. Presuming that voters stay where they are is an error. Voters can be moved.

            Arnold was overly ambitious in CA, and then became devoid of ambition. I would like to see Daniels push the envelope more. If he is going to run for President, its a good idea politically. If he is not planning on running, its good for the state.

          • LibertarianHawk

            He’s very unconventional. It’s not at all right to consider him a capitulating shrinking violet. Quite the contrary, really.

            He fights battles — and, more often than not, wins the ones he fights. But he picks them pretty carefully first. And he clearly doesn’t want to get sucked in to the battles somebody else has picked.

            I don’t know if you’re a football fan at all, but watching him reminds me a lot of watching Bill Polian. One day, everybody is wondering what the hell Polian’s thinking and why he’s not making the obvious move that everybody’s clamoring for. The next day everybody thinks he’s a genius.

            I used to scratch my head at every move Polian made. He’s proven me wrong (or, at least, himself right) enough times that I long since stopped doing it.

            I, personally, would rather see RTW than some of these other reforms that Daniels is seeking. But I’ve also learned to trust his judgment.

          • Right Reason

            I used to live in Buffalo. It makes me sick to think of the way they’ve let the team he built rot from top to bottom.

            As far as Daniels goes, looking from the outside in I don’t see the downside of pushing for RTW. And as for trust, with politicians it’s not trust, but verify, it’s verify then trust. If he does it his way and gets RTW as well, I’ll be the first to sing his praises. BUT, if he somehow forgets RTW, the tune I sing will have a slightly different melody.

          • aesthete

            from the pov of the battle of ideas, not the prism of politics. Were it simply about ideas, school choice and free trade wouldn’t be used as clubs to beat politicians over the head with. Politics, more often than not, is more about personalities and turnout than ideas, and RTW is an issue that Dems can use to hammer Repubs in some states. I don’t live in IN, and I never have, so I won’t claim special insight into the politics of RTW in that state. However, I have lived in the Midwest, and observed how union interests can really frak up the gears from a political standpoint. In those states, union interests are a hill for the Dems to die on, just as public unions are in CA. I don’t know how that works out in IN, but I do see merit in not biting off more than one can chew at a time.

  • redneck_hippie

    including the input in comments as well; especially the information about priority-setting. Sort of points to a certain governing style. I’ll be watching to see what the outcome of this session is for his priority choices.

  • redneck_hippie

    Pence
    Daniels
    Palin
    Barbour