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Tonight’s big GOP debate winner: Herman Cain

I just spent 90 minutes watching the Republican primary debate.  Tim Pawlenty, Herman Cain, Gary Johnson, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul each answered about a dozen questions on topics ranging from the war in Afghanistan to Obamacare to the economy.  Tonight’s big winner?

Herman Cain.

The loser(s)?

Gary Johnson and every candidate who didn’t attend.

Why did Herman Cain win?  Because the “front-runners” weren’t there.  He got his message out.  He made a good impression (Fox’s focus group had several people say he made the most sense and that his business background really showed through).  While others stayed away, Cain showed people he was a serious candidate.  He proved he could hold his own with the established, polished politicos.

Gary Johnson, on the other hand, appeared confused and whiny.  Granted, he had a point that, early in the debate, he hadn’t been asked many questions, but the way he approached it was unprofessional and un-polished.  His history and centrist positions on some issues are going to make it difficult for him to gain support among the base, and he didn’t have a single notable moment in the whole debate, other than his tantrum.

Ron Paul actually showed himself to be on-point in several areas, but he also contradicted himself, particularly in his opposition to Arizona’s controversial immigration law whilst simultaneously supporting state-level control over marriage and drugs.  Even though I think he did well, he’s a fringe candidate who, like in 2008, won’t gain the support of the broad-base of conservatives.

Tim Pawlenty and Rick Santorum performed as expected.  They are, after all, established politicians with experience in debates and campaigning.  They didn’t lose, but they didn’t do anything to establish themselves as big name candidates.  Which because of Cain’s performance, is a bit of a loss for them.

Romney, Gingrich and every other potential candidate who didn’t appear lost a lot of ground tonight.  Until now, Herman Cain has been a relative unknown.  Yes, he had a radio show and has appeared at several Tea Party events, but most people don’t know him by name. Tomorrow, his name will be all over Fox News and the blogs, and that will be a huge help to his chances.

Will he be the nominee?  It’s still unlikely.  He has little political experience and has never served in public office (though, as he stated, Washington is full of politicians and “how’s that working out for you?”).  He is, at best, a long-shot, but showing up to tonight’s debate was a coup for his campaign.  Tonight is probably not the beginning of a dark horse, insurgent campaign leading to Cain’s nomination.

But it might be.  Wouldn’t that be interesting?

Cross-posted at The Minority Report Blog.

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  • carolina

    He is not in the habit of political-speech. I like his direct statements. Of course, that may be what gets him into trouble in the slippery world of politics. – sigh -

    • http://seekingliberty.wordpress.com fmaidment

      …he’d have done so already on his radio show or one of his many public appearances. IMNSHO.

  • carolina

    He is not in the habit of political-speech. I like his direct statements. Of course, that may be what gets him into trouble in the slippery world of politics. – sigh -

  • expanding_man

    but he didn’t say much of substance. Can you explain his response about Afghanistan? He didn’t answer because he has no idea what the right thing to do is? Didn’t anyone tell him he was going to be in a debate where issues like this might come up? I thought he embarrassed himself, but mouthbreathers in Luntz’s focus group seemed to like him. He should stick to making pizza and maybe acting as a talking head on TV and radio.

    • Tom Anderson

      Wow…can’t believe you went there.

      If you listened further in the debate, he explained what he meant when he gave his answer about Libya. Go back and watch it again and see if you don’t understand it better the second time.

    • Bill S
      • expanding_man

        It was pretty funny!

        Look, the guy speaks pretty well. So does Obama. He’s clearly out of his depth when talking about foreign policy.

        In his defense, he’ll lose out to even worse but better funded and known candidates.

        • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

          Don’t do it again.

          • expanding_man

            Is there an official list of candidates that we cannot poke fun at while commenting on them? I assume Cain is on it but I didn’t get the memo.

            Why is that specific comment so terrible that I’m getting a warning? Making a joke confusing two obscure african american candidates seems pretty harmless. The point being that Cain is not known by many non hardcore political junkies.

          • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

            …but your compliance is noted.

          • expanding_man

            I acknowledge your authority but I would appreciate you explaining the reason for the warning.

          • powertothepeople

            This is their house, but lets put it in terms you may understand.

            You come to my house, I tell you that you are not allowed to speak, you have two choices, do not speak and remain in my home or speak and get tossed out. There are no explanations needed nor are you entitled to an explanation as to my rule. You simple abide by it and stay in my home or you chose to ignore my rule and leave.

            Same applies here. The fact that you think your attempt at humor was either funny or appropriate demonstrates that no explanation would ever be understood by you anyways. So just make your choice by either accepting the rule and move on or continue in the nonsense and the capable mods will help you to the door.

            Simple as that.

          • expanding_man

            Just think it’s a little heavy handed given the nature of the comment.

          • Aaron Gardner
  • Flagstaff

    For similarly obvious reasons highlighted above, he isn’t likely to become our candidate for President. He could become this election’s Mike Huckabee, though.

    Herman Cain would be a solid President though, and he’d be a solid Vice President to help the right running-mate get elected.

    I had an even better response to the debate than you did. I felt very good after watching it. All five acquitted themselves well, and I’d agree with your implied order of finish, too. I do believe Pawlenty helped himself almost as much as did Cain, though, and Santorum didn’t seem to gain quite as much as Pawlenty did.

    On substance/content, I rated Cain and Pawlenty about even, with Paul next, followed by Johnson (that’s right) and Santorum last. By content, I mean the guys delivered SOMETHING, even if it was something I disagreed with. I may be too hard on Santorum, but that’s the way it hit me. Another appearance like that on national TV and Cain will start being noticed and becoming known.

  • hudsonwilde

    Loved his answer on Afghanistan. That is exactly what executives are supposed to do when dealing with complex issues. And Afghanistan is a complicated issue with no clear right or wrong. It is a matter of “is it fixable” and cost benefits analysis, roadmap and performance matrix. Cain territory. All others offering easy solutions looked like fools by comparison.

  • http://www.tooncesthecat.wordpress.com tooncesthecat

    the one-eyed man is king. Except for Pawlenty, none of the candidates in this first debate has a chance at the nomination–for President of Veep. By Labor Day, Johnson, Cain, and Santorum won’t even be on stage in these debates. I can’t believe how many of you took this debate serious, as though it will have any effect on the nomination.

    • catt

      I think Cain has a better shot than Pawlenty. A candidate has to be able to connect with voters. The first time I saw Cain speak was the recent debate … and I heard some of Erick’s show with him too … and you can’t deny that he’s got the kind of personality to connect with voters. With T-Paw … I’d rather read a transcript to find out what he said than have to watch him say it.

      It’s not hard to understand why Cain’s been getting so much attention after that debate. When we get to debates with the big names in them … Romney can’t run away forever … I think you’ll see the same effect on a bigger scale.

      Cain’s “Common Sense Solutions” brochure … see the link at the top here: http://www.hermancain.com/inner.asp?z=15 … sets priorities that will have broad appeal reaching deep into the independent/moderate part of the political spectrum. Read it and see if you don’t agree. People talk about needing a candidate who can appeal to the right _and_ the independents and Cain seems to pull that off pretty well.

      I have some qualms about him supporting the Fair Tax … a really bad idea for quite a few reasons … but I think there’s a silver lining to this. Putting a concrete proposal like the Fair Tax on the table … even a proposal that is deeply flawed … puts opponents on the spot to say what they would do better and to be detailed and specific about it. That’s a debate I’d like to see both in the primaries and in the general.

  • obviousliberal

    I can’t either

    Sad to see Bobby Jindall not mentioned lately.

    Had the administrative chops, but he’s a horrible communicator.

    • WillisNYC

      So far it is the only game in town where you got to see some of the candidates on stage together as we will later in the process. What I found most instructive was the response that Cain got from the focus group. I thought Cain did well, but had no idea how well until I saw the focus group’s reaction. Since I am such a political junkie, it is unlikely I am anywhere near a proxy for the average Republican, but that focus group would be a good proxy if Luntz did his job properly. (And it is very likely that he did!) He seemed very surprised by the outcome!

      • http://www.tooncesthecat.wordpress.com tooncesthecat

        1. Herman Cain won.
        2, Rick Santorum came in second.
        3. Ron Paul raised a million dollars.
        4. Gary Johnson was allowed to participate.
        5. Tim Pawlenty was the star attraction.
        6. Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich took a pass.
        7. Mitch Daniels didn’t ride his Harley on-stage at the last minute.
        8. Michelle Bachmann was not “all in”.
        9. Sarah Palin and Donald Trump are still doing reality TV shows.
        10. Mike Huckabee hasn’t decided whether he’ll give up his half million dollar gig on Fox News to try to win a job that pays half that amount and requires a lot more work.

        • http://seekingliberty.wordpress.com fmaidment

          …realistically expected Barack Obama to win the Primary for the DENC nomination in 2007? No! Everyone expected Hillary and MAYBE Obama would get a VEEP nod.

          It probably won’t be Cain, but I’d rather support someone I believe in and hope his voice is heard than just go in order of whose turn it is.

          Besides, you never know what might happen…

    • acat