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Warren did not need Land’s saddle on his back [re-updated]

Land, Warren best public faces for Evangelicals

Originally published in and introducing Gamecock’s DeVine Law

[2nd update]

Rick Warren pulled off a masterfully revealing “cone of silence” debate with identical, well-crafted questions to Obama and McCain tonight. All fears that Warren was in the tank for Obama were unfounded. His low key approach allowed Obama to hang himself with his halting non-answers vs. McCain’s honest, direct unflinching answers. Obama never identified that a baby in the womb ever has any rights. Most voters don’t want a confrontation like attack peppering Obama about Rev. Wright. I do, but what I learned tonight is something I learned long a ago in courtrooms against witnesses but never applied to politics: Ask a pointed question in a low key voice and count on the jury to get it.

Thank you Rick warren for your service to America, gamecock’s trust and hopes, and our Lord!

Your format and approach revealed a bright boy vs. a Man.

[end 2nd update]

The greatest and most blessed Land east (and west) of the Garden of Eden has needed continual healings of varying degrees since its founding. We became the last best hope of man on Earth, the arsenal of Democracy and God-given Liberty’s Shining City on a Hill because we sought and received healings of our Land via a Judeo-Christian prescription:

2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Dr. Richard Land, President of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), prescribed that Scriptural anecdote for what ails America recently as a guest speaker at the First Baptist Church in Charlotte.

Dr. Land is a frequent quest on Meet the Press and other prominent television programs and probably the best “public Evangelical face” save for Reverend Billy Graham, who best refutes the secular left’s false caricature of Christians as wanting to “impose our views” on America.


The fact is that Christians, and especially those of the Evangelical variety finally joined more politically active Catholics, and became politically active in large numbers when five or more lawyers on the U.S. Supreme Court began imposing their views via their re-written, non-ratified by We the People Constitution on them beginning in the 1960’s and especially after the early 1970’s ruling that struck down anti-abortion laws in most of the states.

Dr. Land has been calling for a healing of our land long before $4.00/gallon gas and milk; in no wise demands that non-Christians participate in the initial operation; and cites prior healings initiated in our history by Christians that healed the land for all.

Dr. Land distinguishes between America as “Blessed”, being an undeserved gift, and “Healed’ as having to be earned, and while he also cites Lincoln’s, we need to be on God’s side” along with the SBC admonition that God is on no political party’s side, he does not hesitate to declare that God is on Life’s side and that one cannot vote for a pro-abortion rights politician or judge and be on God’s side.

[update]

Rick Warren would do well to put Land’s Biblical saddle on his back if he wants to be true to his mission and not allow a fatal to the Go Ye mission under the Christian tent.

The life issue is simply fundamental, and Warren faces a moment of truth more than Obama and McCain.

But before turning to the “Chronicles” Plan, Land chronicles some past healings that are instructive for stanching today’s cultural rot. He cites the prominent role Christians played in the Abolitionist movement that lead to ending slavery; the Progressive movement that brought necessary workplace reforms; the Suffragette movement for women and the Civil Rights movement.

He then bemoaned that over the past forty years, the secular culture has influenced the Church more than Christians have been salt and light for America.

Our Constitution vests power in We the People, not just we the non-religious people, and Dr. Land enunciated the long held Baptist advocacy for separating church form State lest the state harm the church in its soul saving mission. But he also pointed out that Christians are part of we the people and that free speech is not just free non-religious speech. Land echoed gamecock in his, we speak, we vote, we accept the outcome till the next vote.

That said, Dr. Land then turned to the scripture and declared that the healing we seek for all of America’s land begins with God’s people, as it is God speaking in verse 14 above saying “my people.”

The formula Land cites seems eerily familiar to several periods in America’s history, some of which pre-ceded our founding and the Church’s (and Hebrew peoples’) history for the past 2000-5000 years. The formula?

Revival. Awakening. Reformation.

Revival occurs when Christians humble themselves, pray, seek God’s face and turn from their wicked ways. The first step is for “Christians themselves” to clean up their act so that others want in on the act. When others look and see the benefits of eschewing drugs, saving sex for marriage, staying married and living wholesome lives.

There is no imposing of anything. It is first about an example that persuades and draws others, so that healing is possible. No social construct can cure a disease when the ingredients (see us) are so diseased.

Land’s recent book, The Divided States of America: What Liberals and Conservatives are Missing in the God-and-Country Shouting Match! is a great amen to the sermon yours truly witnessed here in the Tar Heel state.

Christians and non-Christians alike should appreciate his approach to public policy if not all of the substantive positions.

In that regard, Dr. land recently endorsed Alaska Governor, Republican Sarah Palin for theVice-President spot on the McCain ticket. Baptists are truly the liberated woman’s friend. Land also dismissed any suggestion that Obama could peel off more than a marginal portion of the non-black Evangelical vote given his radical pro-abortion views.

Land was also one of many Christians last year and early this year that opposed having a pro-abortion presidential nominee like Rudy Giuliani.

Who says the influence of the Christian Right is waning?

Not me.

Let the healing of the land begin!

Mike DeVine aka Gamecock’s Charlotte Observer columns
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COMMENTS

  • ilitigant

    The headline just made me tilt. Now that I understand I feel all better and stuff.

  • gamecock

    wizard?

  • Harold_Vaughn

    but by the external evidence of real life (love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance). This life was not produced by anything of themselves, but by the internal working of the Spirit of Jesus Christ the Son of God (the creator of life).

    Well said GC, well said!

  • gamecock

    as how too many Christians have let secular politics get in the way of the mission?

  • Hermes

    Although I don’t agree with the SBC’s theology, I must agree with the conclusions that Dr. Land has reached. Absolute hands down, FTW statement:

    “God is on Life?s side and that one cannot vote for a pro-abortion rights politician or judge and be on God?s side.”

    And that sums up politics in 2008. Party of Life (mostly) v. Party of Death. Any man who calls himself Christian, Muslim or Orthodox Jew cannot with any real spiritual honesty cast a vote for Senator Obama.

    Another solid point by Dr. Land:

    “It is first about an example that persuades and draws others, so that healing is possible.”

    Echoing, among others, Peter Maurin:

    “And because the poor
    were fed, clothed and sheltered
    at a personal sacrifice,
    the pagans used to say
    about the Christians
    “See how they love each other.”
    In our own day
    the poor are no longer
    fed, clothed, sheltered
    at a personal sacrifice,
    but at the expense
    of the taxpayers.
    And because the poor
    are no longer
    fed, clothed and sheltered
    the pagans say about the Christians
    “See how they pass the buck.”

    Finally,

    “Who says the influence of the Christian Right is waning?”

    The MSM, the DEM’s and the Rockefeller Wing of the Republican Party.

  • gamecock

    nt

  • gamecock

    many of the Founders were not “believers” in the theology, but all were for Judeo-Christian principles.

    love your final sentence!

  • gamecock

    Dr. Land distinguishes between America as ?Blessed?, being an undeserved gift, and ?Healed? as having to be earned, and while he also cites Lincoln?s, we need to be on God?s side? for the non-partisan SBC admonition that God is on no political party?s side, he does not hesitate to declare that God is on Life?s side and that one cannot vote for a pro-abortion rights politician or judge and be on God?s side.

  • gamecock

    got out of the primaries that he would end up with a FNC TV show.

    Cockstradamus alert

  • mbecker908

    I heard Warren on the radio this afternoon – either Medved or Hewitt – talking about how both candidates trust him and how he “likes both of them” and they like him, blah, blah, blah.

    Warren is absolutely full of himself with this. If you look at the topics, nary a one has anything to do with morality, the Church or any relevant issue that a pastor should be addressing.

  • gamecock

    nt

  • redneck_hippie

    interviewed first. Could be interesting as an open thread. Could foresee intense guffawing and / or need for further anger management tuition (is there a gov’t. program to pay for this, at least until BO is finally engulfed in the dustbin? I await further developments. 9 eastern check listings or:

    http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/429197.aspx

  • redneck_hippie

    for Barack.

  • gamecock

    The structure of the questions on abortion and evil produced the stuttering incoherent leftist boob we have come to adore. The contrast with McCain will be stark.

    It will not be lost on Christians that Obama never said a baby EVER has rights!!!!

    And all the evil in the world is in Darfur and America.

  • speciallist

    n/p

  • gamecock

    the election is over and McCain hasn’t even gotten to the abortion question.

    This man will be a great president.

    Character

  • pilgrim

    His answer to the question of which 3 smart and wise people he would rely on the most waas puzzling and weird. I get General David Petraeus, but John Lewis and Meg Whitman? Until John McCain went on to say that ms Whitman is the founder and CEO of eBay I had no idea who he was talking about.

  • SteveLA

    Carlie and Meg Whitman are well known in business circles as successful and powerful woman CEO’s. By naming a woman as a person McCain listens to, he appeals to Hillary supporters.

  • pilgrim

    Barack has an extreme disadvantage to John McCain in terms of accomplishments and service to the USA, but he has one advantage of the perception that he is more inclined to listen to the wise counsel of folks than the maverick John McCain. McCain’s answer to Pastor Warren on who he will listen and rely on was not reassuring to me.

  • gamecock

    but his wisdom on most issues today is hard to see

    but he is a great man

    think selma

  • Susannah

    I totally agree with your update GC. I think that Warren did a great job tonight. McCain definitely cleaned Obama’s clock.

    On a side note, I remember during the Democratic primaries that Obama always looked like an armature in the debates next to Hillary. I remember thinking that Hillary was a strong debater. Now, after tonight, I’ve decided that part of the problem is that Obama is a really bad debater who gives meandering, incoherent answers, and is lost without his teleprompter. I think that Obama will always appear lost in a debate with any candidate that is more experienced than he is. However, in fairness to McCain, he was really on fire tonight. :-)

  • gamecock

    a half second between every word and all those uhhs…

    grating

  • aceintx

    Time for a plate of crow:

    [IMG]http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd230/bobert_051/EATCROWCAKE.jpg[/IMG]

    Turns out GC was right to urge us to wait till the debate happened before criticizing Warren. I was pleasantly surprised at the even handed treatment of each candidate and the informative nature of the format.

    Some of you will also be pleased to know I can now say president McCain without having a bucket handy to catch the spew…I was genuinely impressed with his answers…let’s just hope he keeps his AGW, and Immigration positions to himself through November!

  • aceintx

    Eat Crow

  • aaronbg

    n/t

  • NightTwister

    -nt-

  • aaronbg

    n/t

  • gamecock

    nt

  • gamecock

    that mccain’s agw will be relugated to small ball.

  • aceintx

    :>)

  • gamecock

    nt