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The notion Congress was “too late” to suspend Newton’s Third law

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

The party is over.

The inebriated invitees depart the party locale for home with their mates. Sober mates of the inebriated (see wives) desire to cure their charges. Some use Folgers ($1.10/cup). Some use No Doze ($2.34/pill). Some use Reds (priceless).

All hurl in the Porcelain shrine at various times, but the Folgers drinker has more resources remaining to address dehydration.

Would that speed-addicted Congress drank Folgers.

People, we had a good ride, despite being told every day that Bush World was 1929 2.0. We blackberried from SUV’s on the way to Big Screens housed in two-story non-common stock in big-hole-less post-911 cities, suburbs and ex-urbs, cursing the non-burning Bush that kept them hole-less.

Nice ride, but too bad we bought the reds before the hurling was over. We could have spent every dime we had and felt more secure before the ejaculation.

Looking at the ejaculation, we wish we had post-Folgers dimes for a better clean up.


America is going to be tested to the depths of its soul.

No Paulson panic prevention bill, that puts smiles on glorified, yea/nay drones of any amount can suspend the effect of gravity on apples nor the effect of debt on disposable income.

Quaker States, Model T’s, Microsofts and “alternative energies” don’t bail us out at our beck and call. The tech bubble burst, so we turned inward on the American dream and ate the seed corn: our homes.

We turned the hearth into a brick, mortar and dry wall certificate of deposit.

Nature demands a withdrawal, and Congress can put words on paper Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow (see Beatles album) all it wants, but the withdrawal will be had.

The vain will say that “if only” Congress had genuflected at Paulson’s feet 15 days ago, we could have suspended the apple in mid-air.

Bull!

We will pay for the party. The only question raised by machinations over when glorified representatives would pat themselves on the back, was how much ammo we would have left when payment comes due.

Thanks to the GOP, we will have more ammo when it comes, but the whole focus on same misses the big picture.

Fellow Americans, I would suggest that you watch 1930′s black and white movies that feature boarding houses occupied by the non-familial and take notes.

Then go to Church, and pray.

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  • speciallist

  • gamecock

    5

  • speciallist

    mini-bump

  • olsmithie

    Well put GC.

    Once again, as many times before in the last eight years, I feel the need to tell myself that Bush is not really an idiot, that I obviously don’t understand the “big picture.”

    However, I must accept reality.

    After viewing the original Bush/Paulson plan and listening to Bush’s remarks begging the public to do what is best!!??,in spite of the public’s wishes, I can only conclude the man is completely ignorant on the subject of economics and not smart enough to sort out who to listen to. Doesn’t mean he is not a nice guy. jimmy Carter was a nice guy,way back when.

    Obviously, Bush has never heard of Milton Friedman, but he sure is taken in by the Keynesian economic (read Socialist) crowd.

    I thought his father disgraced the country badly, but G41 can’t touch the damage Jr. has done. It amazes me that some posters question why I only like candidates that are firmly conservative, considering a moderate to be one without the guts to commit. Hang around a while and watch the economy, you’ll see why..

    Perhaps we don’t need damage from an Obama presidency to give us the next Reagan.
    We have Geo 43.

    Regards

  • aesthete

    At the time, his ideas looked feasible. Nowadays, though, it’s about as credible a theory in a post-Neoclassical economics world as Scientology.

  • gamecock

    if things get too bad, I would want the government to put people to work on public works.

  • izoneguy

    n/t

  • David123

    to tell the terrorists there’s no such thing as a free lunch – TWICE

    and…

    Attitude adjustment in Libya

    Sadaam Hussein is no longer with us

    No plane crashes in 7 years

    I know Bush isn’t perfect, but don’t criticize the man too much – he has done a lot of good for America.

  • olsmithie

    I certainly agree that he had his moments and I have applauded them in the past.

    I just don’t see how he could be so good on foreign policy and so bad on domestic.

    Regards

  • wennejunk

    Jobs and energy. What more could we ask?

  • gamecock

    5

  • ridewind

    Frankly, I actually do not think Bush causes the economic problem. Look an economy problem of this scale got to be brewing for a long time.
    If one look at the trade deficit growth chart of US, it will be crystal clear that this national debt growth started in 91,92. So guess who was in the office then? The policy at that time started to loosen the fiscal conservatism and prudency which just unwind itself bigger and bigger.
    So many people have their finger in this dirty pie.

  • gamecock

    Congress essentially does largely control econ policy.

  • Flagstaff

    but it’s probable that there is nothing that can be done abut the housing bubble, other than letting it pop. We can mitigate some of its effects, but the market is never wrong.

    At the same time, a change in accounting rules would greatly help against the current problem of mis-pricing of mortgages in that market.

  • gamecock

    McCain’s mortgage buy out?

  • Flagstaff

    it’s excluded from that or if it’s part of the mitigation. It’s not even clear if it makes sense to begin with.

    It was a needless thing to present last night, I think.

    The housing market problem:

    Easy mortgages inflated prices (not values) beyond what they could sustain if the easy mortgages went away. ACORN and anti-redlining legislation made it worse.

    Mark-to-market accounting rules forced lending institutions to mark down the value of those mortgages they held, to below their actual financial value. This put pressure on them to sell those mortgages, driving the SECURITY PRICES (not values) down further. As you see, a downward spiral was created.

    Less money became available for business and mortgage lending, hurting both the economy and housing prices. This made more homeowners less able to pay their mortgages. Downward spiral.

    McCain’s suggestion might work to stop the spirals. In fact, I thought that was part of the original bailout plan, but maybe it’s a refinement on it.

    The primary problem with Fannie and Freddie was that Democrats ran them into the ground in order to further their political gains. If their successors can be stabilized and put back into the private sector, they should be OK, and McCain’s idea not too bad (the devil’s in the details, which I haven’t seen).

  • gamecock

    a) they would make more income before the ARM kicked in

    and/or

    b) that house value would rise so they could re-fi for lower payment

    PERIOD. If some buyer thinks they were a victim of fraud, they can sue. Few were. They gambled, and by God, I shouldn’t have to pay for it, and further by God if we protect people from irresponsibility, we can kiss the country good-bye.

    agree?

  • Flagstaff

    I think it could indeed cover some of such people, but I think it would exclude those who applied fraudulently (did not have the resources to pay for the mortgage they received) and it’s restricted to one residence per family. It would serve a worthy purpose if it stops the downward spiral before it overshoots.

    I don’t understand your point b. Increased value would only help if you wanted to sell. Point a is far from unusual, especially in good times. Most people who find themselves in trouble with this weren’t unethical or immoral, but they did have bad timing. Should they be protected from their own bad judgement? Individually, no. But when there are enough of them to adversely affect the rest of us, it behooves us to consider helping them and helping ourselves in the process.

    That’s not to say I couldn’t come up with a better plan. Such as modifying the mark-to-market regulation.

  • Flagstaff

    I don’t like the idea.

    The fact that it’s so bare-bones and obviously last-minute makes it a bad idea to introduce during a debate, anyway. You introduce major policy proposals with speeches where you can explain them. That’s one thing that was wrong with the first Treasury proposal.

  • gamecock

    “didn’t have the resources”

    Ther problem was that people got homes that told the truth and were allowed to get into home where the payment was more than the usual allowed % of income.

    Yes, one could sell on that hope for the increase in value. They should not now get the principal reduced to an affordable price. They should be f/c on and another buyer can by the home at the FMV.

  • gamecock

    pay for the homes of others, ie gamblers that lost is the downfall of this country.

    They gambled on ARMS and values. They tried to buy and hosue and failed. They must suffer the consequence. The issue as to how many can be dealt with by other means as the crisis is not the individual who has a job and can go rent. Its that we need liquidity for NEW GOOD LOANS. For that we need not bail out anyone, least of which people that would gain a home at my post-divorce expense.

    If we don’t have a nation where irresposibility has a price and regulators take over the market for the most important item, then neither will we reap the reward for being responsible as the dollar plummets, and regulators tell Wachovia they must not allow s/h’s a better price and risk damages in court.

    This is the bull. Its the slouching into Gommorah’s gate.

  • speciallist

    n/p

  • stang

    ?The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.?

    I believe we have quite enough fools now without the government manufacturing any more.

  • Flagstaff

    we are told, is that lenders are going overboard the other way. They won’t loan at all or are loaning only to gold-plated borrowers, which they no longer think exist.

    That makes sales impossible, adding to the downward spiral, forcing foreclosures rather than even distressed sales.

    I agree with you that the recipients of our largess should be required to pay a price–that’s a big part of what is wrong with this proposal as stated. Lower payment can be arranged without reducing the principal beyond what the current lender writes down as a loss on the sale of the mortgage. That’s the advantage of a government lender–the term and interest rate can be adjusted more or less at will. There should be no guarantee against eventual foreclosure, though.

    Of course the people don’t deserve it, but something may need to be done for our benefit.

  • Flagstaff

    This discussion got way off track.

    There may be something that can be done and should be done, but this doesn’t seem to be it.

  • birdmojo

    If there were more who had this insight, I suspect that there would be more people with Fiscon inclinations that would be willing to say “well, I can stomach my distaste at the Dobson-types long enough to vote for smart economic policies.”

    I can think of one person who might qualify as persuadable, anyway.

  • gamecock

    my ass off the past 16 days and ONE good aspect of the still shouldn’t have been passed bill was that the language was watered down re f/c’s that they be “minimized” as any mtg holder would do, but now, McCain wants to ruin that part with forced re-fis where the taxpayer takes their gambling loss.

    I have found out that under McCain’s plan only those that made down payments are eligible, but the point of all this is to un-clog loan arteries and f/c’s do not prevent that as I have dealt with in detail.

    see my archive

    Earth, see my recent archive entries!

    smile

  • gamecock

    increase liquidity nearly as well as other ways covered in my 5 columns about the crisis over the past 16 days. The original Paulson plan and the main plans offered as ways to unclog the arteries DID NOT involve saving borrowers. Nor should it. Increasing available capital is the ticket.

  • ridewind

    Now there are many who like Obama whether we like it or not.
    But no one likes the congress.
    Everyone knows after the Dems took over the congress, it was stalemate.

    If McCain wants to win, explain the bailout bill items (see my diary for more) and dig the dirty laundry of the congress out in open. It will be a lot more effective than hitting Obama.

    It might sound crazy but build a whole strategy based on this can in effect take the Dems out of both white house and congress.

  • ridewind

    pose a big threat to his term in the white house because Dems congress will use the same tactics they stall Bush.

    With his age it is unlikely for him to run 2 terms. So it is really do or die for him.

    While the economy provided a fake opportunity for Obama, it will provide a real opportunity for McCain.