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Innocent life: McCain protects the “punishment” Obama lets die in soiled utility rooms

Another directive from Boata to Gamecock

[We swap editing roles for this one.]

Originally published by Mike DeVine as Legal Editor for The Minority and HinzSight Reports

My brilliant conservative, non-columnist friend in the banking industry desires, and rightfully so, that Obama and the Democrats be hit again and again – at least by McCain and his ads! – on a number of issues. My most recent economics column introduced Boata’s desire that liberals be defeated by references to facts and refuted by logic to the point they are shut up or relegated to filibustering incoherently (which they are very good at). This is an event gamecock has often achieved under the nomenclature of placing liberals in the corner in the fetal position, and so don’t we all wish they would stay in that position!

They don’t, but Rush sees great benefits in having a few libs around spouting liberal drivel so we are reminded of the decrepitude of their ideas and proven failed policy proposals. What we must do is defeat them at the polls.

Boata’s debut at Redstate dealt with the economy.

Now GC is directed to deal with the following, which I will deal with in the context of “innocent life vs. evil”:

(1) The detonation of a nuclear device (most probably multiple devices) in the next administration. Most likely will be delivered via shipping to the US and set off in harbors likely in conjunction with at least one trucked to Israel. No one will talk about this – not PC and heads in the sand – but it is going to happen. I know the differences in Obama and McCain’s handling of crisis situations has been mentioned, but this backdrop is stark and sobering – if anyone will take it seriously.

and

(2) Obama’s view on abortion. This is a topic most are afraid to approach, but it is a topic that has seen a turnaround in views the last couple of decades. No longer is pro-choice in the majority. Obama’s ‘pay grade’ needs to be hammered home, and the fact that when life begins really has only 5 possibilities 1) At birth 2) At viability (which shrinks
practically every year) 3) At start of brain activity 4) At start of heartbeat 5) At conception. If Obama does not know when life begins, then the logical and moral stance is to play it safe.


At the Saddleback Church debate, Pastor Risk Warren asked Obama and McCain about what we should do about evil in the world and at what point a baby gets human rights.

Facts:

Obama responded by calling on America to confront evil in Darfur and on our streets. Obama identified no time before birth that a baby gets human rights. Rather, he changed the question to when life begins and also refused to answer his own question.

Looking at Obama’s record and statements pre-Saddleback, one can’t determine when a born alive infant human baby gets human rights either given that he was instrumental in preventing the enactment of a bill, while serving in the Illinois legislature requiring that physicians give life-saving medical care to babies they fail to kill via abortion.

Obama claimed that the bill would jeopardize abortion rights granted by the US Supreme Court and that babies were already protected by current state law.

He lied.

Witnesses from Illinois abortion clinics and hospitals have confirmed on live television/radio and in print media that babies born alive after botched abortions are left to die on the abortionist table or out of sight in soiled utility rooms. We searched in vain for any prosecutions of “doctors” allowed these out of the womb deaths, some of which suffering lasted for hours.

Moreover, Obama claimed that he would have voted for the bill had it contained the same supposed “Roe v. Wade abortion right preserving language” of a federal law that passed before his recent election to same by an overwhelming majority with the backing of many abortion rights groups and even California’s junior Senator Barbara Boxer, often referred to as the Senator from planned parenthood given her (and most democrats in Congress for that matter) support for partial birth abortion (baby is partially delivered with its feet outside the womb reaching to touch Earth while an abortionist rams its womb encased skull with scissors and then sucks its brains out so one can’t call it murder under state law) and opposition to a federal law outlawing same.

The fact is that the second version of the Illinois law that Obama opposed was fashioned after and contained the EXACT same language as the federal law.

Obama never mentioned the evil of the perpetrators of 911 at Saddleback. He has mentioned that he would sit down without pre-conditions with Iran’s genocide against Israel seeking President and has often spoken of America’s military actions against Islamist terrorists as morally equivalent to the acts of the terrorists themselves.

Lastly, with respect to the democrat, we got a glimpse of Obama’s view on the worth or “intrinsic value” of human life, when, speaking in favor of grammar school sex education; contraception distribution at schools and abortion rights when he expressed his wish that neither of his daughters not be “punished” with an unwanted pregnancy.

John McCain, on the other hand, stated to pastor Warren that life begins at conception and that we must defeat evil, and especially the innocent life threatening Islamist terrorists that perpetrated 911 and who are trying to defeat the desires of freedom loving people in Iraq and around the world.

With respect to homeland security, McCain has supported, and Obama has opposed, most all efforts to strengthen the hand of the executive branch under the Commander in Chief to identify foreign and domestic threats, whether it be with respect to surveillance of telephone calls by and to suspected terrorists and immunity for telecom companies for post-911 assistance.

Could the choice be more stark?

I think not.

[On a side note with respect to prospect of a WMD attack by terrorists inside the United States, I think we owe President Bush and the GOP a great debt of gratitude for keeping us safe since 911.

The combination of the roundup of 900+ muslin nation visa overstays immediately after 911; breakup of numerous terror cells thanks to aggressive interrogation of captured terrorists and CIA and FBI changed missions and tactics; the killing of tens of thousands of terrorists diverted from the Lower 48 to prevent a free Iraq; and aggressive domestic surveillance has kept us safe.

But, I think it is inevitable that we will suffer WMD losses on our soil and that the real choice is how often we will suffer. The choice is best encapsulated that we fight them over there so that we don't have to fight them AS MUCH over here.]

Mike DeVine’s Charlotte Observer columns

“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

COMMENTS

  • Harold_Vaughn

    Protect the innocent around the world, but not the unborn in the USA!

    Thanks GC for the reminders of what it is that we are fighting for this election: getting the tyranny of the Federal government out of our lives.

  • paulag1955

    It’s more important to protect the whales than an unborn baby! Or even a baby that miraculously survives an abortion procedure. There are NO moral grounds on which Obama’s position can be supported.

  • speciallist

    McCain…or…..Obama

    “Could the choice be more stark?”

  • DetriusXii

    In 2004 and 2006, gay marriage and the defense of traditional marriage became a large issue for discussion. There were several arguments for or against each. But since McCain was elected, the advocates of traditional marriage became silent and likely couldn’t reconcile how having a divorce was upholding a traditional marriage. The administrators stated it wasn’t an election issue this year. But it could become an election issue again next year, and the next candidate the Republicans run could theoretically have had an abortion. Seeing how the members here are willing to overlook McCain’s divorce, even though they had a history of arguing for defense of traditional marriage, I question your advocacy of anti-abortion policies. Is it a fundamental position that your candidate must be anti-abortion or are you willing to bend the rules a little when the candidate is running as a Republican?

  • gamecock

    5

  • izoneguy

    It’s sad to think that Obama has said out right that if his daughters made a mistake they should not be punished with a baby. I really wish Obama would think before he speaks. My best friend and his wife aborted their first child almost 25 years ago because they said they were not ready. They went on to have a daughter and a son. This guy – my best friend since high school said – “Having that abortion done was the worst mistake we ever made.” That weighed heavily on my friend for 19 years. He committed suicide in 2002.

  • From_ME_to_you

    My girlfriend had an abortion 15 1/2 years ago and there is not one day that I have not thought about it.

    I work at youth events at my church and as I see the kids in that age range I can’t help but wonder what my son or daughter would have been like.

    There’s a hole in my soul that will never be filled but I can’t let that stop me from living. If I can stop just one person from making the same mistake my continued life is justified.

    Saving one life is saving a world. The lives that the one saved life will impact is unknowable but still valuable.

    My heartfelt symapathy to you and your friends wife. There are three victims with an abortion, the child and the mother and father. The “adults” may not realize that they’re victims until it’s too late!

  • speciallist

    I was worried about you!!

  • From_ME_to_you

    Got a little busy, a little sick! A lot sick with my lib acquaintances!! (Must keep Christian attitude and not wring their scrawny necks!)

    Did miss RS! One of the few refuges of sanity on the net!

    Things are looking grim for McCain-Palin here in the People’s Socialist Republic of Maine! Fortunately our RINO Senator, Susan Collins, is handily beating (not literally, unfortunately) her Democrat opponent! Better to have a RINO than a Socialist in the Senate!

    The incumbent Representative Tom Allen in my district isn’t running for re-election having chosen to run against Senator Collins for her Senate seat. I guess he’ll be unemployed soon. Last poll I saw was Sen. Collins by 16 points.

    The race to fill his seat is probably going to the Democrat but we can pray!

  • speciallist

    Welcome back…see ya around

  • izoneguy

    n/t

  • Mary_Contrary

    This is the issue that can win this election.

    Listen to the McCain campaign rallies. The issue that gets the largest cheer and round of applause is the mention of the culture of life. People will fight for the cause of life. It creates unbridled passion.

    A lot of the battleground states…states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia… are filled with people who are strongly pro-life. And even those who wouldn’t consider themselves pro-life are still offended by the idea of partial birth abortion and infanticide. Play back the tapes of Joe Biden harassing John Roberts. Put out the words of Barack Obama speaking to the Planned Parenthood PAC.

    If these voters are consistently reminded and told just how anti-life the Democrat ticket is, they will vote their conscience. They will side with life. The voters in those swing states won’t be able to go in that booth and pull the lever for an anti-life candidate.

    But they have to be reminded.

  • Menlo

    This was not about abortion. It was about actual MURDER of the born! Obama was supporting INFANTICIDE. What he supported is defined as murder under federal and Constitutional law.

    This is not something any halfway civilized or reasonable person could possibly overlook, much less “disagree” upon.

    Obama is an accomplice to murder.

  • groundgame

    Check the voting record of McCain. And yet, after two terms of Bush, abortions are just as available as they were in 2000.

    This is just another base rallying issue Republicans have no intention of ever truly taking action on. So as individuals, religious people, and anti-abortion activists, concentrate your energies on policies that reduce unwanted pregnancies – if there is no conception, there is no life by both your and McCain’s definition, and no desire by anyone for an abortion.

    Certainly we can agree on at least that.

  • Harold_Vaughn

    to elevate the life of the unborn above disposable trash.

    On this we can not agree!

  • itrytobenice

    She ended up marrying the dad, but she was never able to get pregnant again. Did you know sterility is one of the potential side effects of abortion? They don’t mention that at the abortion clinic to college kids.

    Anyway, if she could turn back time, there would be a 23 year old son/daughter in their lives, and probably several more as well.

  • From_ME_to_you

    If ALL the risks were truly reported I truly believe the number of abortions would drop dramatically.

    I’m truly sorry for your friend! I would hope that she would get involved with a local pregnancy resource center.

    When someone who has experience tells a story it is more believable. She cannot change her past but by telling her story she may be giving a mother and her baby a future!

    “And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world.”-Jerusalem Talmud, Sanhedrin 4:8 (37a)

  • From_ME_to_you

    If your goal is to make abortions illegal, you may succeed in changing the law but you will not stop abortions. Someone will always find a way to get it done!

    As long as the humanity of the unborn child is denied then any action is justifiable.

    If your goal is to have no abortions you must elevate the status of the unborn child to a position equivalent to that of a human being!

    Until the sanctity of human life for an unborn child is acknowledged abortions will continue.

    We need to win the hearts and minds not the territory!

  • gamecock

    Ain’t she great!

  • redneck_hippie

    n/t

  • gamecock

    the murders of the born, which are illegal and have been since Cain and Abel.

  • DavidS1787

  • ILLINOIS_CONSERV

    Which is why she gets attacked so mercilessly. All that pro-life, pro-family, pro-God stuff. Scares the hell out of the left!

  • kevinforrester

    The Weekly Standard has Sarah’s comments here.