“They want us to surrender.”
That is a direct quote from a mostly non-political observer I met during my recent vacation who confessed confusion with the mostly opposite takes of economic, foreign and other political events found on Fox News Channel vs the Drive-Bys (CNN, NBC, et al).
Yet, this non-ideological victim of the Great Recession reaches a quintessentially conservative conclusion succinctly reduced to layman’s terms: The ObamaDems want Americans to surrender their independence for dependence on government.
Stimulants vs. Depressants
What else can we conclude, given their obvious definition of stimulants that makes depressants obsolete?
During this gamecock’s respite from announcements of dawns, President Barack Obama and surrogates have floated a “second stimulus” trial balloon.”
A second stimulus? Yes, I remember the nomenclature of the first $780B bill accompanied by breathless demands for immediate passage lest unemployment reach as high as 7.9% before Christmas on the way to the eventual collapse of the American economy inherited from the Bush Administration. No mention of a Democratic Party-controlled Congress since 2007 that, with then Senator Obama’s votes, passed the budgets and the Fall of 2008 Housing/Credit Crunch bailout bill, but I digress.
The “Recovery Act” aka Stimulus was essential to arrest the “worst recession since the Great Depression” (never mind the worse numbers in 1981-2 about which we have more to say below) and, we were told, would “save or create” two million jobs. Congress passed it with but three Republican votes on a Friday. The President signed in 72 hours later. Guess “immediately” has a different meaning in Obama-tongue?
Weeks after the passage of the first stimulus, in an effort to stop the precipitous tanking of the stock market, the Obama Administration said that the economy wasn’t as weak as previously thought. Yet, in recent weeks the President follows Vice-President Joe Biden in blaming the skyrocketing unemployment rate and post-Bernanke printing press mini-rally, fall in the DOW on underestimating the severity of the inherited recession.
Dizzy yet?
Republicans warned at the time that the Stimulus would not live up to its name unless one meant to stimulate government by creating new, permanent federal bureaucrats to regulate what remains of a ravaged private sector and save state government jobs.
Republicans must quit saying the Stimulus has not created nor saved jobs. It has. The problem is that the jobs are those that taxpayers will have to fund in perpetuity and not the kinds that produce taxpayers with real jobs in the private sector.
Second? Obama has sold five bills as stimuli
That was the first stimulus, but we have been scared into accepting a monstrous budget that threatens to destroy the currency with a $1.8 trillion deficit in Obama’s first year as compared to Bush’s worst deficit of less than $450B. And oh yeah, the few shovel-ready jobs were mostly postponed until the second half of the next election year (curious) when the gardening implement more likely to be needed will be wheel barrows as inflation-adjusted wallets.
We have been told that the budget, the $400 Omnibus Spending bill, Cap and Trade (and tax and tax and tax…food and energy aka necessities that is a direct assault on the poor), and Nationalized Health Care are ALL necessary for recovery. Stimuli by other names stink the same, but do increase in price.
So, what do we conclude about the need for a second stimulus bill?
1980-82 vs. 2008-10: what works and what doesn’t
I’m waiting on the first one.
In 1980-1, Ronald Reagan inherited an economy from a filibuster-proof Democratic confess and President with inflation, unemployment and interest rates all worse that the one inherited by Obama from Bush and the Dems in 2008-9. President Reagan was able to get a real stimulus passed by a Democratic Congress. We know it was real because of the unprecedented, historic 25-year recovery that followed.
The private sector was stimulated by tax-rate and regulation cuts. Reagan’s party actually suffered Congressional losses in 1982 due to the drastic steps required to rein in inflation via restrictive monetary policy, but won a landslide in 1984 and later took over Congress for the first time in 40 years ushering in a conservative era that even Bill Clinton had to embrace.
It seems that the post-Clinton Democratic Party doesn’t prefer that “kind” of stimulus, as they have yet to even try to encourage small business formation. Rather, they demonize entrepreneurial producers and investors and continue policies that have kept them on strike, where they have been since the Democrats took over Congress in 2007 with promises not only of no more tax cuts but, rather, tax increases on those that actually stimulate the economy.
I favored the extension of unemployment benefits and would have loved to see more shovel-ready highway projects funded in 2009 to relieve suffering, but those provisions were a minuscule portion of the trillions in debt we have incurred to save and create jobs for government growthulus.
We need to repeal most of the five stimuli passed or proposed and pass a real stimulus that cuts tax rates and regulations; and which encourages expanded oil exploration and the building of oil refineries and nuclear power plants, all of which have been on hold for 31 years.
But then again, if ObamaDems were to do that, they would be surrendering their Utopian vision of a government-directed economy and populace to the old run of the mill, historically-tested means of stimuli that have come to be known as conservatism’s favored Free Market Capitalism.
The only question remaining is will the ObamaDems surrender due to election-prospect realities before too many recession-ravaged Americans surrender to Big Brother.
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“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
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Surrender ?
Kenny Solomon Wednesday, July 8th at 12:09PM EDT (link)I don’t think so.
Homey don’t play that.
They’ll have to kill me….. and I honestly don’t put that possibility past anybody on The Left….from Obama on down to the local loons.
Cheers !
Of course you can have my guns……. Bullets first.
I didn’t say rounds, shells or magazines……
I said bullets first.
thx for the wisdom of solomon - nt
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Surrender Hell! I have not yet begun to fight!
David Hinz Wednesday, July 8th at 12:36PM EDT (link)and you can quote me!
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
Stephen Decatur copyright expired? - nt
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John Paul Jones
David Hinz Wednesday, July 8th at 1:11PM EDT (link)if Steve used that quote he was violating copyright law…
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
I will return and have but one life to give for my country
Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, July 8th at 1:17PM EDT (link)What was Decatur’s quote? or did he not have one?
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Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, July 8th at 1:24PM EDT (link)found it
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Nuts!
Vegas_Rick Wednesday, July 8th at 1:22PM EDT (link)Said Gen McAuliffe to the Germans at Bastogne.
The statists do want us to surrender. They want us to feel that nothing we say or do matters.
Nuts!
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
exactly, as they pass stimuli that don't - NuTs
Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, July 8th at 1:25PM EDT (link)a
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wouldn't stimuli that don't fall under the definition of oxymoron?
Steph C Wednesday, July 8th at 1:44PM EDT (link)If so, wouldn’t that make the Dems the ultimate masters of oxymorons since everything they do does the opposite of the definition of the word they use to describe what it is they’re doing?
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Oxymoron
Lammo Wednesday, July 8th at 2:17PM EDT (link)Person unable to understand how to use acne medication.
ACORN: Association of Criminals Obama Represented in the Nineties. (jupitersuite)
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (Fr. John Corapi, SOLT)
Crime never takes a holiday. (Dennis J. O’Shea, R.I.P.)
Unlawful is against the law. Illegal is a sick bird. (Ooold joke)
Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read. (Groucho Marx)
I thought oxymoron
David Hinz Wednesday, July 8th at 2:25PM EDT (link)was criticism of Billy Mays…
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
Well, considering Pelosi is the Botox Queen...
Steph C Wednesday, July 8th at 2:44PM EDT (link)nt
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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agreed re oxyDems but their stimuli does stimulate misery
Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, July 8th at 2:52PM EDT (link)that advertises itself, thank God
Even Michael Jackson can’t hide it.
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Have to agree with you on that.
Steph C Wednesday, July 8th at 7:18PM EDT (link)Misery is about the only thing that was stimulated.
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"...will the ObamaDems surrender due to election-prospect realities..."
stang Wednesday, July 8th at 3:05PM EDT (link)In a word, no.To the left, political power is a zero sum game. They want it all and us to have none. The full context of your question implies that they will actually change their minds in accordance with the will of the people when in fact, such modifications of their positions are a deception intended to maintain their seat at the table until conditions are more favorable for their continued march towards tyranny.
As such, genuine compromise will never be possible with them. Their goals are antithetical to republican self governance. They are without honor, and are willing to lie, cheat or steal to advance their cause. They are enemies of the American people and the Constitution they swore to uphold and protect and must be treated as such. Their ideaology must be exposed for what it is, discredited and completely and utterly destroyed.
In a zero sum game, the stakes are nothing less than our survival.
“We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.”
Winston Churchill
“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”
John Locke
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IJB Wednesday, July 8th at 3:20PM EDT (link)The true aim of the Left is not our surrender - their true aim is ultimately to dump our corpses into mass graves.
In the end, they’ll never stop until they achieve that, or until we wear them down to extinction, just like we did the (real) Commies.
I'm hoping for better replies to some of Obama's stuff.
pilgrim Wednesday, July 8th at 3:12PM EDT (link)When Obama tells a bunch of bankers that he is the only one who stands between them and an angry mob they should say something like this…
Sir, you are mistaken if you think you are a king addressing his subjects. You do not stand between us and an angry mob in our Constitutional Republic.
When Obama says he will allow you to keep your doctor this needs to be said…
Sir, what divine right do you think you have to talk about allowing me to keep my doctor. My keeping or discharging my doctor has always been my decision not yours.
It is a great advantage to a president, and a major source of safety to the country, for him to know that he is not a great man.Calvin Coolidge
555! (nt)
larueladue Wednesday, July 8th at 4:41PM EDT (link)“Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.” - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus (Vegetius) in “De Re Militari,” Book III.
GC you are making a mistake in your assumption...
antisocial Wednesday, July 8th at 10:49PM EDT (link)The assumption being the Dems (leftists and/or communists) care about power. No they don’t. That is a typical characteristic of radicals. Agenda is more important than anything else. Now that they have complete control I don’t think they are going to give up. Look at the rate the President is effecting the damage. Consider this…. It will take a very long time to undo the damage if at all all the damage can be undone.
Unfortunately 2010 might be the last hope…. People Power has to overpower the communists….
PS: If I remember correctly you came up with the term “Government Growthulus” for the 780 bn package. Don’t change that. That is the most accurate term for that particular package.
No you can’t - Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
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Republicans who lost the Crap-and-Raid fight in the House -
Mary Bomo Mac (CA-45)
Mike Castle (DE)
Mark Kirk (IL-10)
Frank A. LoBiondo (NJ-02)
Chris Smith (NJ-04)
Leonard Lance (NJ-07)
John M. McHugh (NY-23)
Dave Reichert (WA-08)
thx re government growthulus but aren't you
Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, July 8th at 11:11PM EDT (link)contradicting yourself in your comment re power given that it takes power to enact the agenda and given your acknowledgment they have “complete control” i.e. power?
I agree it is crucial we arrest the agenda advancement in 2010.
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But I also see that what you may be saying is that they don't want power for power's sake
Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, July 8th at 11:14PM EDT (link)but mainly to advance their agenda to affirm the truth of their Utopian religious faith in Man as God, and on that I agree that most on the Left are animated in that way to varying degrees. see here
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-1597-Charlotte-Law–Politics-Examiner~y2009m6d26-Do-Democrats-care-more-for-the-poor-or-their-Utopian-religious-vision
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They have been dreaming to get this sort of power for a long time
antisocial Thursday, July 9th at 12:04AM EDT (link)Now that they have got power they have the best chance to implement the Agenda fully. They might not have this chance ever again. Lefties realize that. It is probably now or never for them to take total control. If they can get the population addicted to government assistance, get amnesty for illegals, get crap-and-tax in place, get free health care for slackers and get the agenda of green creeps in place it is going to be impossible to reverse course…. New deal was and is irreversible…. Once the Agenda is fully implemented power comes by default.
To top it all they have got a committed radical in place. Probably the first real communist since FDR…. Remember he wants to remake America. “Never let a crisis go to waste”….. Who thinks the constitution is negative… it says what government can’t do to you but doesn’t say what the government must do on your behalf…. All the classic signs are there.
The only chance to stop this train wreck is 2010. If 2010 is not utilized for rescue it might be too late.
I am hoping he fails demonstrably (for a majority of population it takes too much to recognize failures…) and quickly… before 2010 elections…
No you can’t - Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
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Republicans who lost the Crap-and-Raid fight in the House -
Mary Bomo Mac (CA-45)
Mike Castle (DE)
Mark Kirk (IL-10)
Frank A. LoBiondo (NJ-02)
Chris Smith (NJ-04)
Leonard Lance (NJ-07)
John M. McHugh (NY-23)
Dave Reichert (WA-08)
5555555555 - nt
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Totally off topic - "Go Gamecocks" movie reference
ColdWarrior Thursday, July 9th at 12:30AM EDT (link)Mike,
I’m sitting here typing away trying to recruit conservative PCs online while watching “There’s Something About Mary” on FX on cable.
The Ben Stiller character was in jail in S.C. because of the rest stop arrest. When he get’s sprung from jail, there’s a shot of him in bed with a great big “bubba” who has his around him. On the wall is this graffiti:
“Go Gamecocks.”
Had you seen this?
At any rate, thought you’d enjoy hearing about it.
Best regards,
Cold Warrior
American first, conservative second and Republican precinct committeeman by necessity.
http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com, so you can say, “I became a precinct committeeman before it was cool.”
“Elections have consequences, my friends.” — John McCain
thx for that info - will get the video! - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, July 9th at 9:56AM EDT (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
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The elephant in the room is the 80's recession
scottbomb Thursday, July 9th at 11:20AM EDT (link)It has always amazed me how Obama gets away with calling this “the worst recession since the Great Depression”. Sure, it rhymes, but it’s far from the truth and NO ONE, not even our elected officials, are taking him to task on this.
It seems that Obama would much rather we completely forget about that time (I don’t remember it as I was only about 10 yrs. old and not paying attention to economics…). So here’s the deal: keep comparing it to the Great Depression and the people will think about the beloved Roosevelt and his New Deal that saved America from starvation (as our history books say). This sets up Obama to be the “next Roosevelt.” And remember, he acknowledges that the New Deal didn’t end the depression but he says it was because Roosevelt didn’t spend enough money…
Now, on the flip side of this coin, Obama would sure hate it if the 80’s recession (and hence it’s cure) was brought into the national conversation. So what’s a teleprompter to do? LIE and say our current recession is “the worst since the Depression.” And of course, the lap dog liberal media is more than happy to play along.
My question is, where is our party leadership? Why aren’t they denouncing this garbage?
http://www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Before its over it probably will be the worst, but I agree
Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, July 9th at 1:03PM EDT (link)that till now, it is not. But I think the real elephant in the room is the donkey with the big ears and his increasing ownership of this Great Recession, which will devastate his party in 2010, I am convinced.
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ObamaDems may not surrender, but they're coming apart
jonreagan Thursday, July 9th at 3:08PM EDT (link)To your diary’s point, I’m not just getting dizzy….it’s more like whiplash.
Obama told ABC news on Tuesday that additional stimulus measures would be “counterproductive”. On Wednesday, he told the G-8 Leaders that “the door must remain open to additional stimulus measures.” Huh?
My sense is that these people are not only dangerous, but very, very confused at this point, and may well be coming apart at the seams. Similar confusion occurred early in the week when on Sunday, Biden gave the green light to Israel to attack Iran…. and on Monday, the State Department issued kind of a yellow light…..and on Tuesday, Barak himself threw up a red light (surprise, surprise). As all this incompetence becomes more evident, the public disgust grows, and poll numbers—like today’s Rasmussen numbers—reflect an administration in trouble.
I am amazed that beginning with Romer last week, and then continuing with Biden and Laura Tyson this week, they’re floating the idea of Stimulus II. That talk is actually going to give cover to Dems like Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu, who won’t support Cap & Tax OR Socialized Health Care as the deficit projections continue to worsen. I firmly believe that the Stimulus II talk will derail both of these initiatives……and that’s the good news.
The confusion is due to their assumption that they had enough wealth to spread
Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, July 9th at 3:49PM EDT (link)and wouldn’t need any more to be created! They were wrong.
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American people surrender?? HA!
marshmom Friday, July 10th at 10:16PM EDT (link)Patrick Henry said it best…….”Give me liberty or give me death.”
I’m sure the democrats would love nothing more than to have us roll over and submit to their totalitarian authority. Keep dreaming!
If the tea parties didn’t tell them anything, maybe the melting phone lines in the House over Cap and Tax gave them some indication of what the American people are willing to do to save their freedom, liberties, and their country.
America is the last frontier. Unlike our founders, we have nowhere to escape to if we let allow our country to succumb to tyranny. We must fight if we wish to remain free.
amen - nt
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