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Justice not planted in un-ripe Arizona lawsuit

Challenging illegal alien law before it takes effect obviously political or Holder is incompetent

Then Senator Barack Obama, famously during 2008 campaign debates in his future  Secretary of State’s home state, favored New York’s motor-voter law that automatically registered non-citizens to vote when they obtained drivers licenses.

President Obama halted ongoing construction of the border fence upon taking the Oath of Office on January 20, 2009; refuses to submit a border security enhancement bill to Congress; and now, has not only refused to defend the Grand Canyon State’s border against invasion and Mexican drug gang war spillover, but this week asked a federal judge to prevent Arizonans from defending themselves.

The legal geniuses of Attorney General Eric Holder’s (pictured) Justice Department that dismissed an obvious case of voter intimidation against New Black Panther Party members, refused Khalid Sheik Muhammad’s military tribunal 911 guilty plea to force an “OJ” trial on the City of New York, and insist on “Mirandizing violent extremists” as if they were mere shoplifters; now claim that the U.S. Constitution’s “Supremacy Clause” requires that the yet-to-take-effect Arizona immigration law be “pre-empted” before it causes “racial profiling” or enmity with a foreign country.

Only non-advisory opinions in “cases and controversies”

Clearly, if Congress wanted to pass a bill prohibiting  states from enforcing federal immigration laws, it would reign supreme. The problem is that not only has Congress not passed such a statute, federal and state cooperation in the processing of illegals seized by state law enforcement agencies is provided for in federal law.

Additionally, the manner in which the police, under the state statute recently signed into law by Arizona Governor Jan Brewer, are to identify federal immigration law violations mirrors federal statutes and the line of “stop and frisk” cases beginning with the civil liberties-sensitive Warren Court case ofTerry vs. Ohio (1968).

Moreover, Arizona revised the original statute, in late May, in response to criticism that it “could lead” to racial profiling, to go beyond current federal law and Supreme Court precedents to absolutely prohibit “race” as a factor in determining the presence of “articulable suspicion” of the violation of immigration laws that would allow an inquiry into the status of a suspect already stopped, detained or arrested.

No victims

Clearly, current law is more likely “to lead” to racial profiling than Arizona’s. Moreover, the Constitution only provides for jurisdiction in “cases and controversies”, which would require that an alleged victim of the law make a complaint.

I did mention that the law has not even taken effect, as we speak?

Given the absence of what the law calls “ripeness” and the absence of any Congressional act “preempting the field” of immigration enforcement; the only grounds available for Obama to argue that the statute be struck down would be if the statute were “unconstitutional on its face”, such as an obvious state  interference with the executive’s conduct of foreign policy.

But given that Arizona has not the power to deport, but can only identify illegals and refer them for prosecution to the federal government, it seems unlikely that the mere continuing enforcement of federal immigration laws by a U.S. state under more liberal standards than the U.S. holds for itself, would not qualify as unconstitutionally inhibiting presidential diplomacy with Mexico.

This strategy is especially curious given the obvious Supremacy Clause violations of “sanctuary cities” that not only refuse to enforce federal law but go one step further and invite illegal immigration and illegal immigrants (H/T Pilgrim of The Minority Report).

I imagine the Obama Administration could ask Congress to pass a law preempting the  enforcement of Arizona’s law.

But the Law Factory thinks even ObamaDems would balk at such a move, which would be akin to a December 8, 1941 law prohibiting Hawaii and California from repelling the Imperial Empire of Japan.

[Originally posted at 73 Wire Law Factory]

Mike DeVine

“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

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www.devinelawvista.com

COMMENTS

  • JadedByPolitics

    then it occurs to me that while he is quietly doing this he is accusing Arizona of being racist. He is talking out both sides of his mouth. The bottom line is Hispanics will vote for Democrats if allowed to be given AMNESTY even though Reagan gave and then Bush attempted to give them AMNESTY. They come from a socialized top down Country and they WANT that in America as well. That is why WE MUST NOT allow that to happen!

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    sort of way!

    smile

  • snowshooze

    Good article Mike.
    Ok, I don’t see this as all bad, I thought Arizona could deport, but that is not a major isseu if they can imprison them.
    Now I keep throwing this out, and I do not know if it will hold water, but the way I see it is like this:
    First, the lawsuit;
    The Federal Government cannot afford to lose.
    Their options are:
    1. Protracted battle, keeping it in court through motions and horseplay.
    2. Withdrawal including some sort of deal with Arizona to save face.
    3. Dismissal

    I do not believe an outright loss will be something they can afford.
    As I see it, if they did suffer an outright loss, Arizona could implement an entire program, build fences and prisons and do pretty much everything they ever wanted to and hand the bill to the Federal Government in Court.
    And of course, all 57 States would be able to join in..
    ( Did you know there are 57 Arab States? Was that an Obama slip?)
    Anyhow Mike, could we seek relief through the courts?
    And then…by proxy..would that open the door to the rights of the States, Guarantees to the States…Federal Overreach..
    I am hoping Obama has mopped himself into a corner.
    What do you think?
    Thanks,
    Mark

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    neither convict, imprison, nor deport illegals for federal immigration law violations, as I understand the new law and current federal law. Beck’ and achance may know more than on this.

    The AZ law is only about clarifying under what circumstances state officers can inquire about immigration status. They are allowed, under current law, to detain suspects until they can be turned over to the federal government for investigation and prosecution.

    Courts cannot force the federal government to enforce the law or secure the border. That will only happen via politics.

  • Scope

    with your reference to the courts not being able to force the federal government to enforce laws, but, isn’t that at the same time saying that the federal government is above the law? Isn’t that saying the the federal government, who writes the laws, doesn’t have to abide by what the Reps. and Senators have voted on and passed? With the current admin., when they have not been pleased with judge’s rulings, they just pass new legislation to get what they want. The SC Citizens United ruling, and, the judge’s ruling stopping the drilling moratorium are some examples. As I said, I understand what you are saying, that politics rules the day over laws, but, the whole system desperately needs to be changed. I read that Holder’s DOJ requested that the case be heard by the same judge that was to hear the 5 other cases. When the suit was filed, it was originally assigned to another judge. I don’t know if it was reassigned to the Clinton appointed judge or not.

    As to the feds lawsuit against the AZ law, you had me in your title when you referenced un-ripe. The law has not taken effect, and, no one yet has been harmed by the law. Oh, there will be lotsa those harmed, guaranteed, real or manufactured. I remember hearing similar sentiments about Obamacare. No one has been harmed by the law yet, so it is not ripe for lawsuits either. At the same time the DOJ is asking that the VA lawsuit against the feds requirement to purchase health insurance be dropped. As I said they just keep coming back until they get it just the way they want it.

    I keep hearing that the feds don’t want states making patchwork laws of their own with respect to immigration. That seems to be the code word put out by the brainaics. I am reading that Rhode Island has been upholding laws similar to AZ for years. There are also something like 6-7 states that have been upholding the federal law. To say that Holder is incompetent is an understatement. Does he plan on bringing suit against all the various states if he wins in AZ? He would have to to stop the patchwork of laws throughout the country. I understand that if the feds lose in AZ, there are many other states waiting to enact their own laws similar to AZ.

    Unfortunately, the answer will probably be the Lefties will pass comprehensive amnesty in the lame duck session. They will easily peel off at least one R in the Senate. Great way for some that have been fired to get there last slap in.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    because the super-majority Dem Congress loves what Obama is doing more than it loves either the rule of law or the check and balance powers of their own institutions in the House and Senate. They don’t want to balance power against the executive because he is carrying out their lifelong liberal dreams.

    Was glad to see NOLA fed judge and 5th circuit ct of appeals enforce the rule of law on the oil drilling moratorium, but ultimately, We the People will have to be the rule of law by voting the statist tyrants out!

  • snowshooze

    So…Arizona cannot enforce Federal Law, but with the additional State law..then they could imprison the Illegal Aliens?
    Does that improve the case for damages against the Federal Government for their lack of enforcement? Are damages even possible? I would think so.
    My angle is obvious…if the courts would uphold damages, all the States could self-enforce and claim damages, which would force the Federal Government to seriously police the borders..I am looking for a Judicial Mandate to secure the borders, backed up with real teeth…a bill.
    Again, I can hardly wait for this battle to unfold.

  • snowshooze

    So…Arizona cannot enforce Federal Law, but with the additional State law..then they could imprison the Illegal Aliens?
    Does that improve the case for damages against the Federal Government for their lack of enforcement? Are damages even possible? I would think so.
    My angle is obvious…if the courts would uphold damages, all the States could self-enforce and claim damages, which would force the Federal Government to seriously police the borders..I am looking for a Judicial Mandate to secure the borders, backed up with real teeth…a bill.
    Again, I can hardly wait for this battle to unfold.

  • snowshooze

    Some kind of glitch here..ok, again, one click real careful..see what happens..

  • renny

    and 71 districts already participate in.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • ashforkdanaz

    1. The People created the federal government to be their agent for certain enumerated purposes only. The Constitutional ratifying structure was created so it would be clear that it was the People, and not the States, that were doing the ratifying.
    2. The Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that which has been delegated by the people to the Federal Government, and also that which is absolutely necessary to advancing those powers specifically enumerated in the Constitution of the United States. The rest is to be handled by the State Governments, or locally, by the people themselves.
    3. The Constitution does not include a congressional power to override state laws. It does not give the judicial branch unlimited jurisdiction over all matters. It does not provide Congress with the power to legislate over everything. This is verified by the simple fact that attempts to make these principles part of the Constitution were soundly rejected by its signers.
    4. If the Congress had been intended to carry out anything they claim would promote the ?general welfare,? what would be the point of listing its specific powers in Article I, Section 8, since these would?ve already been covered?
    5. James Madison, during the Constitutional ratification process, drafted the ?Virginia Plan? to give Congress general legislative authority and to empower the national judiciary to hear any case that might cause friction among the states, to give the congress a veto over state laws, to empower the national government to use the military against the states, and to eliminate the states? accustomed role in selecting members of Congress. Each one of these proposals was soundly defeated. In fact, Madison made many more attempts to authorize a national veto over state laws, and these were repeatedly defeated as well.
    6. The Tenth Amendment was adopted after the Constitutional ratification process to emphasize the fact that the states remained individual and unique sovereignties; that they were empowered in areas that the Constitution did not delegate to the Federal Government. With this in mind, any Federal attempt to legislate beyond the Constitutional limits of Congress? authority is a(n) usurpation of state sovereignty?and unconstitutional.
    7. Tragically, the Tenth Amendment has become almost a nullity at this point in our history, but there are a great many reasons to bring it to the forefront. Most importantly, though, we must keep in mind that the Founders envisioned a loose confederation of states?not a one-size-fits-all solution for everything that could arise. Why? The simple answer lies in the fact that they had just escaped the tyranny of a king who thought he knew best how to govern everything?including local colonies from across an ocean.
    8. Governments and political leaders are best held accountable to the will of the people when government is local. Second, the people of a state know what is best for them; they do not need bureaucrats, potentially thousands of miles away, governing their lives. Think about it. If Hitler had ruled just Berlin and Stalin had ruled just Moscow, the whole world might be a different place today.
    9. A constitution which does not provide strict limits is just the thing any government would be thrilled to have, for, as Lord Acton once said, ?Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.?
    10. We agree with historian Kevin Gutzman, who has said that those who would give us a ?living? Constitution are actually giving us a dead one, since such a thing is completely unable to protect us against the encroachments of government power.

    If you want to first halt then reverse the tide of government overreach, pass these points around to your friends and send them to your state and U.S. representatives.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    GOP