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Jobs-producing stimuli are not ‘swindles’ even if they help Obama

Beltway conservative elite’s focus on President Barack Obama’s fortunes are misplaced

Does Charles Krauthammer think tea partiers would rather wait another two years before taking actions to turn the economy around? Apparently, as he characterizes the deal struck with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) over extension of the Bush tax cuts and unemployment benefits as a “swindle”:

Barack Obama won the great tax-cut showdown of 2010 — and House Democrats don’t have a clue that he did. In the deal struck this week, the president negotiated the biggest stimulus in American history, larger than his $814 billion 2009 stimulus package. It will pump a trillion borrowed Chinese dollars into the U.S. economy over the next two years — which just happen to be the two years of the run-up to the next presidential election. This is a defeat?

The columnist this rooster respects so much that we dubbed him “The Master” back in 2002 is at his cynical worst as he evaluates the main business of the Lame Duck Congress solely through the lens of the 2012 election, when what matters is fixing the economy, deficits and debt. Moreover, to add insult to injury, he fails to recognize the difference between supply side and Keynesian stimuli as he adopts the talking points of the left regarding the “cost” to the government of tax rate cuts and reality of falling government revenues during a jobs recession as he continues:

If Obama had asked for a second stimulus directly, he would have been laughed out of town. Stimulus I was so reviled that the Democrats banished the word from their lexicon throughout the 2010 campaign. And yet, despite a very weak post-election hand, Obama got the Republicans to offer to increase spending and cut taxes by $990 billion over two years — $630 billion of it above and beyond extension of the Bush tax cuts.

Of course, tea partiers are not about the business at tilting toward semantic nomenclature windmills and most understand that unless the economy rebounds sufficiently to produce jobs at a prodigious rate, there will be no chance of reducing the size of government enough to eliminate budget deficits and reduce the currency-destroying debt. Doesn’t The Master understand that this deal was mainly about preventing a tax increase that could deepen the ongoing jobs depression (the underemployment rate of 17% approaches 1930s levels) and cause a GDP double dip? I must assume that he does but cares more about not risking Obama’s re-election more, as if that were a realistic possibility in any event.

I have observed that America is most certainly better off with the far left Obama having defeated the moderate McCain so as to re-educate Americans in the failure of liberal economics in time to save us from the tipping point of Republican-moderate aided incremental-ism slouching towards Gomorrah. But would Charles also have us push suffering Americans off the cliff with ObamaDems? I would hope not, and doubt his fears are realistic in any event.

Moreover, Krauthammer exhibits the same economic ignorance of elitist Republicans in their worship at the Church of static Congressional Budget Office deficit estimates that Ronaldus Magnus and Arthur made a Laffer of in the 1980s through the just-completed Naughts. Tax rate cuts increase revenues at least above 30%.

But even on this issue, Charles makes a grave error that elected Republicans must address and I suspect will address when the new GOP-majority House convenes in January, namely, that the Obama-McConnell Deal is not a package of the kind of Reagan-Laffer supply side tax rate cuts that actually simulate job growth. The leading columnist in America fears that Obama will be able to win the argument over policy in his 2012 campaign for re-election no matter the performance of the economy since he can claim credit for the deal if unemployment falls significantly and can blame GOP theory if it does not.

Yes, I suppose he could if he is aided in such fraud by elitist conservative Beltway pundits and silent elected Republican leaders.

Let the gamecock crow and find echoes on the right that point out that this deal is damage control and preventative medicine. Let the new Speaker of the House, John Boehner make this clear with actual supply side stimulus bills in 2011.

And let it never be said of the Party of Lincoln that we would prolong the suffering of the under-employed merely to win an election. We can win the White House and the Senate in 2012 by acting in the best interests of the American people and stating the blunt truth.

If tea partiers stood for anything last Election Day it was that.

P.S. I favor the deal because I have been against tax increases and for tax cuts of almost any kind since the 1980s, given the sufficiency of revenues to pay for a government of a sane size all of my adult life. I favor increased unemployment benefits during deep recessions. I don’t apologize for that but also don’t deny that conservative opponents make good arguments against the deal. I don’t agree with Hugh Hewitt and others that think we could get a better deal next year. Fred Barnes argued my position well yesterday on Hewitt’s show. The transcript is here.

Mike DeVine

“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

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  • izoneguy

    I talk with small business owners every week and they are saying that an “extension” is not good enough. It won’t produce more jobs. The tax rate must be made permanent. The GOP is gaining nothing in this deal and is giving cover for more spending. We have to hold Obama’s feet to the fire in the 112th.

    And the unemployed have had a good run on the backs of the business owners and taxpayers. Time for them to go flip some burgers.
    I like mine well-done. Thank You.

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    1) All the tax breaks are extended two years. Very few significant capital projects like “Hey, let’s build a new factory right xext door!” could get finished in that time frame.

    2) UI comes out of the pockets of small business people. Small business people create 80% of the jobs in the US. Hence, even as we call this stimulus, we poison the very people who need to be stimulated in order to create the jobs that assuage the problematic unemployment.

    RMJ remains deeply skeptical. I’m in the ironic position of owing Richard Nadler and Dennis Kookyitch a big thanx.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    We’ll see. But I always recco good writing and analysis

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    some one that keeps more of their pre-tax income and/or draws unemployment might plop down $120 for my discount credit challenge legal services so that I could get some Le Sueur peas to eat this weekend!

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    would cause more suffering in the short term than would the debt increase cause in the medium to long term. UI in people’s pockets also get spent in small businesses and preventing the tax hikes keeps more money in the pockets of small businesses.

    Its damage control and I admit its a close call.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    subsidies are included it could cause me to switch positions since I consider those subsidies to be an attack on the poor given their effect on the prices of food, gasoline and other necessities.

  • pilgrim

    At the bottom of the screen on C-SPAN2 it reads Sen. Sanders began what he calls a tax cut filibuster. In reality the filibuster will allow everyone’s taxes to go up. There are no tax cuts if the current tax rate is allowed to remain the same.

    I strongly disagree with the socialist, Sanders, but real ‘Mr Smith Goes to Washington’ style filibuster is something we have not seen in several years.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    hurts Obama and hands the GOP the tax issue perfectly timed for the 2012 campaign. I do not believe that there is any way that tax increases will be popular in 2012.

    Moreover, does Krauthammer and the other opponents of this deal think that tax hikes are good just now? And does anyone really believe that Obama and the Dem Senate will allow extension of the tax cuts next year? I think not.

  • Scope

    that izoneguy posted in another diary. Not only does it include the extension of ethanol subsidies, it is being larded up as we speak to many special interest Libs, mainly the green ones. This is most definately becoming a Bill of Bribes, just as Ocare was, just to get it passed. I also read that Pelosi will not go with the O deal unless she can “fix” it more to her and the Libs liking. You might change your mind if you see what’s being added. I am also thinking that the Republican leadership also promised to help pass START in exchange for supporting the O’s tax deal as is.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

    …at least not in the private sector.

    Too much will go into producing a handful of government positions at best (or rather at worst).

    For business expansion, investors (and businesses) need confidence of a long-term friendly environment that won’t pull the carpet out from under them a few years down the line – and confidence that the rule of law will remain in place.

    When they the incoherence and corruption behind this bill – in return for which they only get a two-year extension, which is not enough to plan for, the private sector will not buy in, but will mostly stay on the sidelines.

    In other words, capital holders will be convinced by this bill that the U.S. is an unstable political environment in terms of private sector. And with split governance for the next two years, they won’t change their minds soon, and certainly not after the bill in its present incarnation.

    So we may get some more consumer spending than if taxes go up, but were still going to suffer capital flight – and loss of attendant jobs.

  • izoneguy

    They will be held hostage again in 2012 and the socialists will demand more bribes. Let the tax rates go up. In the end the real pain caused by the higher rates will be on Obama and what is left of the dems.

    Obama will be forced to deal with the Republicans demanding permanent tax rates or risk a real depression.

    It is that serious. We cannot go on like this.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    1) Is your opposition to the deal based in any way on your optimism that the new House majority and increased Senate minority can achieve extension of the tax cuts in a better bill in early 2011:

    and

    2) If the above cannot be achieved, what do you think the consequences on the lives of the underemployed and their dependents will be if taxes are raised and not corrected for at least two years?

    The main reason I still favor the deal, even given the add ons as of this hour is primarily based upon the damage to lives the raising of taxes will do.

    Secondly, I think most of the add ons are minor and that most can be corrected by the new GOP House.

    I think that the opponents of the deal are underestimating the degree of increased economic suffering that will result from the hike in taxes.

    more later

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Its about damage control. See questions I ask above of the opponents. More later and thanks for the exchange.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Yes, emphatically, on #1.

    #2, I don’t accept that the new Congress will make a better bill (basically a long-term or permanent extension of the tax cuts, with none of that other crap), and that Obama will veto it. Not more than once anyway. It will not stalemate for 2 years.

    And it will be retroactive to Jan 1 anyway, that is a given. I don’t like the suffering that will cause in the near term, but a better deal sets our nation, AND all its suffering citizens, on the road to recovery. I see nothing in this deal that does anything better than maintaining a bad status quo.

    And i DO consider some of those add-ons just extremely tough to live with, and a 2-year temporary extension of the Bush Tax Cuts was worth more than all the concessions, given that “we won”.

  • izoneguy

    It is more spending that must be paid for with borrowed money. It is the same old liberal blackmail that gave us the Stimulus, Trillions in debt and ObamaCare.

    The free market has been hamstrung by the libs since 2006.

    If you give in now it will never stop. People find work about a month after their benefits run out. I have heard dozens of stories about small business owners having trouble hiring people because the people applying are on benefits and taking a job would net them less money.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39693099/ns/business-eye_on_the_economy/

    3 weeks – the republicans need to hold firm until the new congress is seated. The republicans can then push Obama to the wall and demand the tax rates be made permanent – without extending benefits.

    The economy won’t crater on Jan 1 when the tax rates go up.
    It will be painful but the medicine will be a conservative slap to Obama’s head.

    This must be done or America will look like France, Spain & Great Britian in 10 years.

  • Scope

    You don’t have much faith that the new incoming members of the 112th congress will have a chance at making the tax bill better. You do have faith that the new incoming 112th Congress will be able to correct all of the add ons. If they can correct the add-ons, can they also correct the now egregious tax bill?

  • acat

    where the owners somehow managed not to pay into the state unemployment insurance… and hired a manager who’s a bad fit….

    It could almost be a comedy…

    The manager knows the score, and is being very careful to not do anything that could cause termination .. but is also not doing the job…

    The owners know the manager knows .. and are being coldly polite to their wayward employee … while picking up the slack on top of their jobs.

    Eventually, something’s gotta give, but in the meantime, were I slightly further on the outside, it’d be comedy gold.

    Mew

  • izoneguy

    Would be getting rid of Obama and the Marxists in 2012….
    Until then I have no hope of any real growth.

  • Flagstaff

    “When is enough, enough?”

    He’s referring to a claim that for the top 400 income-earners, their effective income tax rate was cut almost in half from 1992 to 2007. Called them “crybabies,” in fact. I do not know if his claim is correct.

    “When is enough, enough?”

    I would answer that with more questions. Bernie, are you talking about tax rates? Because if you are, I join in your question. What tax rate will be high enough to satisfy your craving to stick it to the “rich”? When IS enough, enough.

    What tax rate on the “rich” will balance the budget, pay off our debts, provide free health care to all, balance Social Security, and bring us peace in our time?

    What tax rates will bring in enough revenue to the treasury that you will not feel compelled to spend just a little bit more, paid for with borrowed money?

    Bernie, I just might go along with you if you can answer my questions with a response I believe. In fact, I might agree that we should keep those rates high as they are (oh, yes, that’s not the question, is it?), I mean, let those top rates rise. And the other rates, too. After all, don’t you socialists demand “fairness” above all else?

    Why would I do that? Because I know that your “plan” will bring in less money, not more. Because I know that you will then be forced to borrow even more, and it will be obvious to everybody as the deficit balloons each year. Because I know that if you don’t borrow to spend more, you’ll lose some of your base, and if you don’t borrow to spend more, the size of the federal government will be forced to shrink.

    And because I know that the best way to protect our liberty is to shrink the size of the federal government.

  • Flagstaff

    By turning down the Obama-centric agreement, they have given US the opportunity to make it better. In fact, they want to hold the American people hostage to an increase in the estate tax rate over 35%.

    Back to the bargaining table for us, because we really do have the best arguments, to demand:

    First, a permanent extension of the current tax rates, which are too high anyway. (This holds in reserve the real objective we should have for 2012, which is to LOWER all tax rates.)

    Second, if they want their extension of unemployment welfare, it must come from the unspent Stimulus I funds. Can not add to the deficit; cannot be paid for with borrowed funds. The same for a tax holiday on Social Security taxes. (BTW, does that mean SS benefit credits for 2011 will be reduced? Nobody has mentioned this issue.)

    Third, no other spending bill can be attached to this one. Nothing for ethanol; nothing for American-Samoa.

    Fourth, if they refuse points 2 and 3, then just go with #1.

    If not that, let the Democrats have their tax increases.

    (Personally, I’d accept the current tax rates for two years only and let the Dems run on tax increases in 2012. But only without the Christmas Tree bill attached.)

  • Rusty_S

    Agreed. It’s unbelievable to me that we are having to fight so hard to simply keep things as crappy as they currently are.

  • conservativecurmudgeon

    -about your critique vis-a-vis Krauthammer; while he has a brilliant mind, sometimes I think his clutch slips a tad.

    But, I disagree vehemently about the extension of Unemployment Benefits, especially when part of a larded-up “deal”. Either this sort of wild out-of-control spending stands on its own merit (as in helping the unemployed), or it doesn’t. Many, many years years ago, I took unemployment, and it was embarrassing, dehumanizing, and belittling (even though I did it to “get back” at my employer, whom I felt had VERY wrongfully dismissed me).

    I will say, though, that the government has a significant role to play in helping the unemployed, but not the chronically unemployed–for that, we have a pantheon of programs already in place. But, one thing we could do for these folks, is let their lack of income carry over for seven to ten years after regaining employment as a deduction against income tax. Corporations get to do this, in a sense, when they have yearly losses. People ought to able to do this, too.

  • littlel

    on this.

    1st. There are No tax cuts in this measure that will stimulate anything. Giving a minimum wage earner $5 more a week stimulates nothing.

    2nd. For a business to expand or build a new plant and hire more workers, it takes 2 years to get the city, county, state, feds to agree the new facility will not harm the environment, neighborhoods, traffic flows…hence no expansion

    3rd. We have no money to spend on any “Sweetners” for either side, it is all Borrowed.

    4th. 50% of Americans already pay ZERO income taxes so even if the tax rates went up 1-1-11, they still pay nothing.

    5th. Economic expansion is not fueled by anything Govt’s do, it expands when People expand it.

    6th. Govt has so overregulated everybody, from Barbers to CPA’s–Doctors to Heating/AC Techs…You cannot even have your lawn mower repaired without a “Certified” Tech doing it or a Federal Law is Violated.

    Hence this is another Pork laden measure which helps few but costs us all. We were “Pledged” by out Electeds that Spending would be reigned in and borrowing stopped. This tells us backroom deals are alive and growing in DC and it is time to flood our Electeds with our displeasure! Otherwise the Repubs will hand the White House back to Obama and the House back to Nancy!–

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    the main reason for accepting the original Obama-McConnell bill was due to the damage that will be done to the economy and poor people’s lives by a tax increase. Just because it wouldn’t make the tax cuts permanent as would be preferred doesn’t mean that it should have been rejected on those grounds alone.

    more later below

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    is not the precise deal that Obama struck with McConnell.

    No, I do not have any faith in the new House until they show me they got the message. Hence my support for the American Drive In on Opening Day

    http://theamericandrivein.com/

  • izoneguy

    for initial accepting the first tax extension deal.

    It did make sense in many ways.

    But I think the democrats have shot themselves in the head
    for not going along with it. They actually made out like bandits
    with the first deal but the greed & corruption over powers their
    will to do the right things.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    One of the main reasons for my column supporting the specific Obama-McConnell bill was also to call out Krauthammer for sloppy language on stimuli.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • Scope

    all the way.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
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  • Scope

    I also agree that unemployment benefits should be extended, but, only to a degree. All through the last year or two, those benefits were extended for less periods of time, with a lower cost. Why now go for 13 months, with a big price tag. The Dems wouldn’t agree to take monies from the Stimulus or anywhere to pay for those shorter term benefits. Further, what happens to states when the fed money has run dry, and, you have a gazzillion people on unemployment. It is going to hurt the state’s, as the employers are going to have to come up with more money in order to keep Greek riots out of the streets. The employers are hurt badly anyway, those that are and will be left after the Won. It’s hard to appease a long term dependent society. I’d go for a shorter term extension, with the money coming from the unspent stimulus funds, that haven’t stimulated diddly squat. They can’t keep their union and re-election monies at the price of the people.

    I knew that the “deal” with the O and the Republican leadership would never be the final deal. We’ve seen the larding being added in order to sweeten the deal for the Libs. Pelosi, to my knowledge, hasn’t even come out yet with what she promised to be fixes to this deal. It is getting worse as the days go on. I read an interesting comment somewhere, the Republicans got a boost in these recent elections. It was a mandate to them to “cut spending” everywhere possible. The House Republicans in particular said they learned their lesson. Now we have some that are willing to go along with more massive spending, in order to get the current tax rates extended. Aren’t they shooting themselves in the foot to accomplish exactly nothing?

  • Scope

    because your heart is so much with the people. Also, you are as willing as the rest to tell them where to stick it when necessary. As Rush said, I want this bill (is there anything in writing) to fail.

  • Scope

    LOL. VA Atty Gen. Cuccinelli gets a decision from Judge Hudson on Monday, with respect to his Ocare “mandate” lawsuit. As the country’s most respected legal mind, any opinion?

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    in which I stated that due to the depth of the economic crisis, Americans were going to be tested in their character for many years, yet, due to the depths we have reached, I still try and cling to some hope of amelioration even with Obama in office. Hence my desire to prevent a tax hike that will make the test even worse and which could be the catalyst for what i think is the inevitable stock market crash.

    I should quit trying to delay the inevitable for marginal amelioration.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    the mandate could be upheld due to the fact that the only enforcement measure is to withhold a tax refund based on the 16th amendment.

  • avgjo

    of why I resent (sorry, but that’s the truth) this administration and its mindless minions. The dangers of keeping people on UI for a long time are clear and present. But so are the dangers of having large numbers of people without any means of sustenance; folks in that situation are especially ripe for demagogues of the most dangerous kind. (Think Germans between the wars. That’s for another diary, but the point is, if it can happen to them, it can happen to us.) We have been put in this precarious place by the democrats, who have done this solely to satisfy their libido dominandi.

    There are many kinds of hacks, scoundrels and low-lives in this world. Those who destroy the lives of innocent others are of the worst kind, and that describes Democrats to the letter.

    This tax bill stinks. But this is one of those rare moments where the argument ‘we have to do something’ actually works. A real pickle, eh folks?

  • avgjo

    those who destroy the lives of innocent others for their own gain, are of the worst kind.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I am reminded of statements I have heard about how “we survived the Carter years”. Well, that depends on what you mean by “survive”. Yes, a nation called the USA still exists, but many people had their lives irrevocably ruined by the Carter years. And so I try to urge folks here to understand that sometimes damage control is the best we can do for a time and that just because we knwo that we can’t reverse Obama laws until 2013, that doesn’t discredit efforst to lessen the damage.

    But, I also am sure that it was best for the long term that Obama was elected so that we could all re-learn the evil of modern day liberalism.

    So that, I am persuaded that even if we can’t reverse the tax hikes, it is still best that we not give in on this bill.

    I can’t tell you how much I hate the weakness of our position and that I must submit to a long term plan, but God is in control.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Too many think that it is. But, I think that the tough lovers are mostly right even if most of them are not suffering like the hobos in the B&W movies on TCM.

    I tell you folks that there is a growing population of people that are of the same plight as those that said “Brother can you spare a dime”. It is real and it is now and it is going to get much worse before it gets better even if the GOP wins every election and every legislative battle for the next 6 years.

    We are being tested my friends.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    to events and circumstances. May I quote Ronaldus Magnus’s support for a federal safety net for the truly needy?

    Let those whose BMW payments are made on time be humble and let those whose cars have been repossessed not resort to scoffing.

    In Christ

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • jstjoan

    Then the House will pass its own bill after the first of the year and make it retroactive but without the $850 Billion in new debt spending the Left is porking into it.

    According to an email I received two days ago, this bill violated Boehner & Co. recent “Pledge to America” in five different ways when they promised to:

    “Permanently Stop All Job-Killing Tax Hikes” (p. 16) Estate Tax would definitely kill jobs in family businesses if not the whole business itself, ie. some family farms.

    “Act immediately to Reduce Spending” (p. 21) This bill adds “Stimulus” levels of earmarks, bribes, and other deficit spending.

    “Cut Government Spending to Pre-Stimulus, Pre-Bailout Levels” (p. 21) The added deficit spending will make this harder to achieve.

    “Read the Bill” (p. 33) When bills have this much packed into them they become “must-pass-it to-know-what’s-in-it’ type of bills. If I may borrow a recent quote of Rep. Mike Pence “…of such insulting complexity that they are heavier than chains.?

    “Advance Legislative Issues One at a Time” (p. 33) No explanation needed here.

    I honestly cannot even believe that the Republicans are seriously considering voting in favor of this as it stands now.

  • jstjoan

    in your original post. Or, at least the P.S. portion?

  • avgjo

    Love remember the folks in need.

    The last words of the carol Good King Wenceslas apply now; please heed them as you can.

    Therefore, Christian men*, be sure
    Wealth or rank possessing
    Ye who now will bless the poor
    Shall yourselves find blessing

    It may sound silly to some, but I really believe that if we all take up one another’s burdens, we can make through this storm. The Obama administration, as have so many tyrants in the past, seeks to make the government the sole source of sustenance; perhaps the most important part of the principled spiritual and intellectual resistance we are obligated to engage in is to resist the temptation to let the needy go to the government for their assistance. If we do this, we exacerbate the state-dependency; government grows more powerful; then they’ll control all resources; finally, they’ll use those resources to divide us, weakening us spiritually and morally, rendering us incapable of taking back our freedom. Please, please, PLEASE get involved with your church/synagogue/good civic organization to clothe, feed and house those less fortunate and let’s make it clear to Nanny Gov that we don’t want or need her.

    * This is the wording of the carol. I am unashamedly a Christian, but I don’t quote this with intention of excluding men and women of good will of all faiths, or no faith, and my prayers and thanks are with those folks for the good they do for the poor and unfortunate.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    He’s brilliant, but he’s done a couple of odd things in the last 6 month. I don’t get him sometimes.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    my complaints about Krauthammer’s use of the term stimulus remains. My opposition to “a” bill changed because the contents of same changed.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • Flagstaff

    It would have been an acceptable proposal, minus the porkulus add-ons.

    Even the reduction in SocSec tax collectible and an extension of unemployment welfare would have been choked down if paid out of Stimulus I. Thus, my points above.

    I have been far from the news recently. Does anybody in the House and Senate get it, besides DeMint and Pence?

  • Scope

    They claimed that if history repeats, and the Bush tax rates are not extended, the stock market will crash by year end. If Capital Gains taxes go from 15% to 20%, the investors will pull their money out this year, and pay the 15% on any gains. I’m hoping that those that control 401K’s have moved the funds to safer ground. If anyone is still invested in the stock market, and doesn’t have their big toe at least, out of the quick exist door, they will be in for some major financial pain. I’d probably watch the DOW stocks that Uncle George is invested in very closely. When he pulls out, we’re ready for the dive.

  • Scope

    Obama opened many eyes that were previously closed. Without his radical agenda, even more radical than Carter’s, to many it would have remained- same thing different day. I was in my young and dumb years during Carter, but, I remember sitting in gas lines on the odd and even days. I remember being cold all the time. That was more than 30 years ago, and many today have not experienced that first hand, or were too young to remember any of it.

    Now in my old and dumb years, I am scared to death of skyrocketing food prices, worse than they are now. I’m very worried about gas prices going even above $4 a gallon. When people are cut off from even their meager unemployment monies, I’m really really worried about the streets becoming unsafe to travel. It will look like Greece or the UK.

    A warning from Glen Beck that I have taken seriously is that the price of clothing will increase more than 30% nest year. Cotton is trading at an all time high. Get your threads now, or put them on your Christmas list.

  • Scope

    is being a useful idiot and is against the bill. All for the wrong reasons mind you, but useful to our side. If the House leadership votes for this bill with all the pork, the “Pledge” will immediately become obsolete. It will have ended even more quickly than Gringrichs Contract with America. At least the newly elected Congress was seated when Gringrich gave in.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
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  • redneck_hippie

    Obama is weakened, not strengthened, by caving on the rates and also being forced to sign another pork-laden bill. Whether he is more weakened by the one fact than the other remains to tell.

    From this debacle, people will be more convinced to make the change necessary to the tax code for a flat(ter) tax.

    Obama caved because he is afraid of the new congress. He may perhaps have some inkling that America is vomiting until we are at the dry heave stage over the fake racism, class warfare and boondoggle legislation.

    For over a year I’ve said O’s is a failed presidency. Now for the next 2 years we’ll be denigrated for dismantling the damage he created.

    The symptoms Obama is displaying make me wonder each time what it must feel like to have lied continuously for political gain and to have lost what respect he had on obtaining office.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/255206/respectful-and-loving-opposition-krauthammer-larry-kudlow

  • JSobieski

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/254940/unbundle-welfare-state-jim-manzi?page=1

    A conservative approach to entitlement reform that acknowledges a role for a federal safety net. I think it makes a lot of sense, particularly with respect to SS.

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  • texasgalt

    http://yfrog.com/f/f74utj/

    I don’t mean to sound cold-hearted, but it is easy to say “bear the burdens of others.” Somebody carries the freight for that- whether they want to or not.

    Meanwhile, down here in TX, I have an $11 per hr job that has gone unfilled for 7 weeks. I know, that’s not a great wage, but you’d think with people unemployed for over a year, maybe somebody might want to try to reclaim their dignity.

    Unemployment benefits should not be viewed as a welfare program and compassionate conservatism isn’t always that compassionate in practice.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    due to the hard times now and those to come.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I mentioned the coming increase in boarding house; extended families moving in with each other; more backyard gardens; chickens in the yard; and professional people taking $10/hr jobs.

    I said we were going to be tested in our character as I thought, rightly that the depth of the problems had reached a tipping point that ensured many years of recession no matter if we implemented right policies that day.

    Here we are 2 years later and its worse due to bad policies and we still face 4-5 years or more of very bad times. But there can be a silver lining if we discover our shared humanity and become more tolerant of others as we suffer together.

    Forgive the Baptist sermon…smile…and pray

  • texasgalt

    and I am praying. This thing is much bigger than what man alone can handle.

    If families, friends, communities and churches pull together, we can come out better on the other side of this.

    In the meantime, stock up on store brand peas. :-)

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  • Flagstaff

    What are they thinking of? An agreement to pass a Christmas Tree (whoops, a “Holiday Tree”) is precisely what we voted against in November.

    Fox News just had an unscientific poll:

    To improve the economy, Congress must (A) cut spending or (B) increase spending.

    Out of 1780 votes so far, it is 1771 to 9 in favor of (A).

    Unscientific or not, that should tell us something.