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Non-lawyer Cain and the deflation of Krauthammer’s Panel

Herman Cain endures Beltway  economic ignorance and poor legal advice on non-disclosure agreements from The Center Seat on FNC’s Special Report, The Panel segment, on Tuesday

This time, Americans want a man with courage to implement the values and principles that might just save America, rather than a Barbie Doll that gives all the lawyered-up, Beltway-approved “right” answers. Americans are amenable to a normal conversation with non-lawyers rather than a gotcha game.

We know that people with courage and the needed convictions aren’t necessarily those that respond like gold medalists in the perfect-answers-approved-by-peanut-gallery talking heads.

We like, admire and trust Herman Cain. We know that fixing the economy requires courage and Reagan-like principles and polices more than being a non-gaffe geek.

We hate the lawyer, PC, make-a-mistake-and-we’ll-sue-you liberal culture. We loathe it like the plague. We are tired of staying silent with glazed-over eyes as we endure the victimhood of women that heard a bad joke or got flirted with. We are tired of defending lawsuits because of “institutional” racism.

We have been tired for a long time. But now we are tired and poor.

Herman Cain sat in the Center Seat of Special Report’s The Panel on Fox News Channel last Tuesday night. He was cross-examined/ridiculed by Charles Krathammer et al on the regessivity of the sales tax portion of his 9-9-9 (modified 9-0-9 for the poor) Plan.

Was Charles tired on Tuesday’s Special Report Panel?

He looked exhausted, and his third question on behalf of the poor is Exhibit A for same and possibly some elitism? Charles knows that the price of goods contains embedded taxes. Yet, when Cain explained that the cost of goods would inexorably decrease due to the removal of embedded current rates of up to 35% and more income, corporate, and capital gains taxes down to 9-9-9, instead of acknowledging same and arguing over the extent and time of said re-pricing, he ridiculed the notion with: “So there will be deflation under your plan”?

Bad Charles! You know that deflation is a systemic fall in prices based upon the money supply and a lack of confidence in the markets, bearing no relationship to tax cuts. Ever heard of the phrase too little money chasing too many goods? I thought so. So, despite the raised eyebrows, upturned noses and sceptical looks of you, A.B., and Bret, Herman was right and you three looked like deaf, dumb and blind mice on Economics 101 that day.

Tort settlements, severance agreements and confidentiality/non-disclosure clauses

Charles, you have a legal education of sorts. What would have been your advice to a client formerly accused of sexual harassment client that was involved in both a termination of employment or severance agreement with one accuser and a damages settlement with another, if they were asked about same? Given that non-disclosure agreements were signed, wouldn’t you advise that they plead the Fifth Amendment upon advice of counsel? Of course, but you didn’t criticize Cain of that did you? No, because you know that its not possible for a candidate for President of the United States not to agree to a full anal exam.

So, do you have any compassion for non-lawyers thrust into that situation of being asked a vague question that could apply to two different incidents? You should. Most Americans do. We’ve elected the smooth “smart” people that play the Beltway game and get kudos from the like of you for cute answers.

The rest of America wants a chance, just a chance, at bold solutions to this crisis once known as an economy. That chance is a non-politician that’s willing to take the slings and arrows of conventional establishment types, i.e. The Timid, and push for a mandate for 9-9-9.

What you need to do is count to ten (sheep), get some sleep, look up the definition of deflation and get over yourself.

Mike DeVine

Editor - Hillbilly Politics

Co-Founder and Editor - Political Daily

Atlanta Law & Politics columnist –  Examiner.com

“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

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COMMENTS

  • Tbone

    Totally wrong, totally misplaced, totally illogical, totally off topic, and totally a waste of pixels.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    so?

  • satchman3

    Cain says he doesn’t even know about the NDA. That suggests he is not a party to the NDA and it is likely an agreement between the NRA and the accuser – I suspect it was completed after he left the NRA but this is speculation. Yet many people are telling Cain he should ‘release’ the accuser from the NDA so she can speak freely – how could he even do that if he is not a party to the agreement?

    Cain may be guilty of bad actions here but I really think he’s being unfairly smeared by a little innuendo and a lot of speculation.

  • Tbone

    I’ll leave it to the analysts to explain why.

    Kinda like I didn’t have to feed the dog to recognize dog poop.

  • carolynr

    Even having a conversation about something that will not pass is stupid. Think about this…it is stupid. It is like talking to an insane person…you can never get the point across.

    This dumb plan has nothing to do with JOBS. Has everything to do with a tax on the poor and middle class, restricts the GDP and also constricts spending. Dud…dud….dud. What the heck is poor ole Herman going to do…micro-manage EVERY INDUSTRY WITH THEIR SUPPOSED HIDDEN COSTS and then award empowerment zones to people who haven’t earned anything…other than they are poor. In other words…ANOTHER WORD FOR REDISTRIBUTION.

    Enough said…stink a fork in this PIG (999) and let’s move on.

  • eabjr

    Your comment on Mike’s article describes your understanding of it, certainly not Mike’s very relevant points. Sadly, too many of you “redstaters” are proving the point: “Herman, if you were just as good as Bill Clinton on handling the media right, no matter if the story is true or not, we would feel much better about you being a president. We will stick with our professional liars, thank you…Go Romney, Perry!”

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    of labor!

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    he may yet, and seems likely to implode through incompetence, but he seems the best chance at real big change that is desperately needed.

    Slick non-tea partier lawyers have wrecked the country. We actually want to fix the country, not just beat Obama.

    We will beat Obama. Obama has beaten himself.

    more later on the whole issue of sexual harassment…and how campaigns provide unique opportunities to get a cultural consensus for change…

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Veteran oracles know that the easiest way to up one’s prediction average is to say what “won’t happen”, rather than what will. So that, one could declare all the candidates finished today and be guaranteed of being 8 for 9 right when all is said and done.

    Of course its also easy to say that any plan won’t pass. Few do.

    Next! (and please some substantive arguments next time…)

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    including the drastic reduction in embedded taxes in prices of new goods as lowing prices for said goods; that it only applies to new goods, which is quite a small percentage of what even the poor spend, since housing, services etc aren’t taxed; I am convinced that its still small but real regressivity is so low as to be acceptable given the massive good in throwing out the current tax code, eliminating many taxes, and so low rates that it will trigger a massive economic boom…. I think it superior to Mitt and Rick’s plans, of which Perry’s is second to Cain’s. imho…but I do respect opposition to any federal sales tax.

    We could look at any of their plans and declare that they won’t pass, and be right 99% of the time. So? Many laws have been passed that had that prediction attached.

  • tngal

    I actually read your article over at the examiner. I read it, then checked out the author and thought, where do I know that name DUH! (smack forhead.) Nice article.

    Along with changing the narrative on how we should review our cumbersome, unwieldy, outdated tax structure I applaud Cain for something else. More and more posters at various newpaper sites comment how they hadn’t paid attention to politics in years or had never voted. Herman got them motivated. After all that’s what he does. That’s what this party needs.

    You always hear the GOTV meme, Well Cain took it a step forward. He doesn’t just draw those who are registered but stay home. He also draws new ones to the party.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    anal exam continues

  • Common_Cents

    A handful are obsessed with the sleazy attacks on Cain as well as promoting them. Going out of their way doing the left’s bidding for them. What happened to Reagan’s words? What happened to if you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say it. Especially with this situation where NOBODY knows ANY facts.

    I want ONE person here to post the original case facts, NDA, or any of the documents of the situation. Nobody can.

    Secondly, I could see where Cain would get into trouble in the first place, why? If he was under some NDA, why would he admit to anything when hit w/ the gotcha reporter hounding him about it. Cain was put in a pickle. The very not responding is what got him scrutiny, where could he really respond if he was under some NDA? Cain was being smeared at that point. Whether he got good advice on how to handle it as it developed is suspect for sure, but to jump on the guy for it is disgusting.

    It’s ironic that we cry about all the slick DC politicians whispering sweet nothings in our ears, but as soon as an outsider attempts to break the DC insiders club, they get attacked and then we cry for someone who is slick and teflon!!!

    We cry about obama and Romney being teflon, slick, flip flopping but then turn right around and attack Cain for being a gaffer.

    Watch out what you wish for, you just might get it.

  • retire05

    instead of shooting off his mouth about a rock. Instead, he tried to use the race card against an opponent. Not cool by anyone’s standards, unless they are a Democrat.

    We have been warning some for a long time that politics ain’t beanbag. And now everyone is going to get a trophy. If you think it is not better for Cain to address these problems now, before say, October, 2012, you’re nuts.

    You’re also wrong about Cain not being a DC insider. Do you think the head of one of the largest lobbying agencies in D.C. is not an insider? Why do you ignore Cain’s actual history?

    And yes, Team Cain has handled this miserably. He obviously did not think he was bound by the NDA when he relayed explicit details on Greta’s show. This was a man who understood that while the women were bound by the NDA, he wasn’t. So he proceeded to smear one of the women. Not a wise move.

    Cain can end this by simply requesting the NRA release the documents on both cases of accusations. It is just that simple. But I am beginning to think that Cain doesn’t want this to go away until the victim stchick doesn’t work anymore. Right now he is garnering a lot of sympathy (the whole ‘a black man who is a conservative is being unfairly attacked thing) but that is not going to last and the shelf life is going to be short.

  • Common_Cents

    Yeah, agree Cain fell for the media trap on that w/out checking out the facts as the lame stream was trying to stir up trouble. However, It was hardly an over the top attack on Perry. Cain said the rock was insensitive, not really blaming Perry.

    The Cain camp made a dumb blunder coming out now blaming Perry camp for this stuff coming out now, unless he had some proof. I condemn the Cain camp for the same crap.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

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  • retire05

    “Cain said the rock was insenstive, not really blaming Perry.”

    Er, no, he didn’t.

    “There isn’t a more vile, negative word than the N-word, and for him [Perry] to leave it there as long as he [Perry] did, before I hear that they [the Perrys] finally painted over it, is just plain insenstive [meaning the inaction of Perry to paint over it earlier] to a lot of black people in the country.”

    Cain tried to play the race card on Perry. And there is just no way you can try to twist that fact. Cain did not say the rock was insenstive, but the inaction of the Perry’s was insensitive.

    I know when I listened to that interview by Cain I thought “My God, tell me he did NOT just play the race card on Rick Perry.” because he did.

  • Common_Cents

    I doubt Cain or anyone thinks Perry is racist so quit making a big deal out of it. It’s silly.

    And you are falling for the left wing media trying to stir up the pot.

    Cain probably spoke off the cuff when given the wrong set of facts by the media. they probably implied that Perry knowingly left it for years.

    Cain should have said, “I don’t have the facts but if that’s the case, it was insensitive.”

    This is just a silly issue and we are falling into the left wing biased media trap.

    I’m not even a main Cain supporter. I’m just tired of the freakin BS being thrown around by the biased media and the various campaigns biting on it.

  • retire05

    Cain has a campaign team, He should have been briefed on the “rock” issue before he gave the interviews. He wasn’t. He was shooting from the lip in both interviews, instead of saying what you suggested.

    But we have seen that Mark Block is a total inept ignoramous, who is running a lousy campaign. Cain needs to fire him.

    And no, this doesn’t have anything to do with the hit pieces the left is going to continue to do. I has to do with the way the Cain campaign reacts to everything, like an amateur.

  • patriot4freedom

    Have to agree with you, “retire05″ . . . I am saddenned to hear of the allegations about Mr. Cain, and have no truck with the liberal media beating him to death with endless stories (Brent Bozell says 50 stories against Cain to 7 stories about Clinton’s allegations ?)
    However, there is a serious point to be made about how this episode has demonstrated Mr. Cain’s judgment, preparation, and ability to lead/inspire/ motivate people. By all accounts, he has done a poor job of handling this, despite 10 days notice. Further damaging his cause was the ridiculous accusation against Perry’s campaign – which was being walked back Thursday afternoon. Time will tell how this all plays out !

  • patriot4freedom

    I am sure that Charles Krauthammer knows the definition of deflation. I am not sure why he asked Mr. Cain if there would be deflation, rather than a decrease in prices, if his plan was implemented. I did not think Mr. Krauthammer was being elitist with his questions – but it is entirely possible that he set a small trap that Mr. Cain missed. The simple response would be to correct Mr. Krauthammer’s use of deflation as a term applying to the decrease.
    We can all set our own standards for what we expect from any person running for office. But I believe it is a facile argument to claim that a person who is not a “slick-talking” professional politician should be excused for not being able to effectively communicate, or for not being prepared to answer direct questions that challenge the points that one makes.
    Finally, I would disagree with your statement that “the rest of America wants a non-politician [chance] to promate bold solutions to this crisis once known as an economy.” Some people want a knight in shining armor from outside the political realm, but they do not constitute the majority. But I do think the majority do NOT want someone who is not ready for the big leagues.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    you made my day

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Krauthammer was being too cute by half, seemed tired…not his best performance. BTW, I dubbed Charles “The Master” 8 years ago, I have so much respect for his intellect. He screwed up. Cain explained embedded taxes and the proper response from Charles should have been: “Correct”

  • Flagstaff

    Bad Charles! You know that deflation is a systemic fall in prices based upon the money supply and a lack of confidence in the markets, bearing no relationship to tax cuts.

    I noticed it at the time, too. Deflation is not ever, as in never, defined as a reduction in final cost of goods and services because of a reduction in the taxes that accompany those costs. That would be like calling the daily sale prices at Walmart contributors to deflation. Yet,

    Herman was right and you three [Charles, A.B., and Bret] looked like deaf, dumb and blind mice on Economics 101 that day.

  • Flagstaff

    if Cain were to ask for the NRA to release the information from the files, he would then be accused of “exposing the victim of sexual harassment” to public scrutiny after she had obtained a promise of anonymity.

    Even though, as you note, he wasn’t himself a party to the agreement.

  • Flagstaff

    “Charlemagne” before, but perhaps that’s over the top. I still like him a lot, but we all know he can be wrong about many things, like anybody else.

    Charles is basically in favor of a version of Cap-and-Trade, which can be argued reasonably, but only if you believe that strong measures to reduce the use of carbon combustion technology are required for our survival, and that such measures are even possible. I’m not sure either is true, so I don’t agree with him on this.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    is the regressivity of same on the poor for necessities! Yet here is Charles overstating the regressivity of 9-0-9 and mocking the obvious effect of less embedded taxes in prices of goods as like Depression-causing/effect “deflation”? Yes, Charles is human. Beltway human.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    is scolding those that think they could have easily made this media-created “scandal” go away and that those who do so are in one sense admiring better liars that cover things up rather than be a normal person trying to deal with ghosts and shadows treated serious as our eyes glaze over.

    That last phrase defines my column this weekend concerning the public’s tiring of these fake crimes the left created.

  • center77

    has got to start paying attention, because Cain is not the one, yes we want a anti-establishment guy, but Cain has been their pet for years, and he is a pawn in their game, thats why he tried to help them by taking Perry out for there buddy Romney, and Cain did not want his support to go to Perry, so he tried to slam him, to help Newt.

  • tngal

    post. He tried to take out Perry because he liked Romney. So he tried to slam Perry to help Newt? What? O.K. I’m not drunk enough to figure this one out.

    I’ll come back later when my vision has doubled. Maybe it’ll make more sense.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    This is about America, not just perry v cain v mitt

  • westcoastpatriette

    In this piece, you state that Krauthammer had a “legal education of sorts.” What did you mean by that? He was a psychiatrist before he entered politics as a writer and policy shaper.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    answers on that program and in columns for the past 10 years shows that he knows quite a bit of law. So much so that I’m impressed that he usually knows the issues like a lawyer would.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    education appears to be self taught. The man is a genius.

  • westcoastpatriette

    Your phraseology in the diary could give people the impression that Krauthammer was an attorney…don’t want to mislead anyone.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    smile

  • westcoastpatriette

    I’d be working overtime trying to keep up with your artistic flair!

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I ain’t paying overtime! smile

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