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Eyes glaze over Cain harassment, faux racism and warped legal system

By: Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary)  |  November 5th, 2011 at 12:08 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

An unnatural, liberal-Democrat, trial lawyer, intimidation-machine culture, defined deviancy (Woodstock, OWS) down; made the outrageous (Ayers, Rev. Wright, Minister Farrakhan) normal; made the normal (Cain gestures) outrageous; and re-classified Clintonian assault & battery and extortion as mere “harassment”.

Decades ago, women entered an American workforce in which men were regularly harassed and offended. To live on Earth is to be regularly offended and harassed. The environment within which humans seek to gather food to eat is inherently “hostile.”

The Common Law, Prosser on Torts, and experiential common sense

We had a tort system handed down from the Common Law of England (pictured, English ancestor of DeVine Law Gamecock in barrister’s wig), based upon common sense experience, that required  negligent or intentional acts causing real injury before the injured could bring a case for money damages to court.

Also required for a tort system to remain rational and not self-defeating for pursuits of happiness economic and social, was, public common sense and judicial restraint among those wearing black robes. The judges failed us when, as Robert Bork describes, they succumbed to the political seduction of the law. Those with the courage to resist “the tempting” are called regularly called “outside the mainstream”.

In this bizarre culture, eyes glazed over as penumbras allowed Roe to kill a very small person occupying her womb, despite Wade’s objection; a president of the United States is celebrated despite serial attacks on women that exceed mere harassment; and a comment by a candidate for that office concerning the similarity in height between an employee and his wife is cause for another Clarence Thomas-like high tech lynching.

Opting out of the “eyes glazed over” culture and the Democratic Party

Born a Democrat, yet I turned down an associate position with a prominent Atlanta law firm headed by a prominent Democrat, right out of law school. Big Business, including law firms, had already surrendered to orientation package required “sensitivity” seminars. I had just endured three years of eyes glazed over liberal “living” constitutions and my DeVine constitution craved dead contracts that corresponded to human nature.

But I returned to Spartanburg to find my eyes glazing over during my Democrat Party precinct meetings and county conventions as mentions of God were hushed up lest we offend a nearby atheist with deep pockets for candidates that would tow the politically correct (eyes glaze to cataract status) line on sexual harassment laws that turn normal male/female workplace interaction into perilous events that threaten to ruin one’s life; “institutional” racism “civil rights” claims, since we rarely found anymore actual racists acting out on the job; and environmental/animal rights wacko laws that protect snail darters while humans dart about unemployed.

Dare to create a job, flirt with a future spouse on the job, or judge others by character content sans skin pigment consideration

I knew I was at the wrong party when fellow Democrats laughed at the notion of the Soviet Union as an “evil” empire; indulged celebrations of a blood-soaked O.J. acquittal; and feigned outrage over a Coke can adorned with a pubic hair communicated by a “victim” that followed the jokester from job to job, despite the “suffering”.

The release of hostages during Reagan’s First Inaugural, Democrat opposition to tax cuts that worked, and Senator Ted “The Swimmer” Kennedy’s description of Robert Bork’s America as a return to Jim Crow had already concentrated the mind against glazed over modern liberalism eyes. Bork agreed with the end of forced school segregation result in Brown v. Board but disagreed with reasoning that based said result on sitting next to white folks in class as  the essential ingredient  for discrimination-free quality education.

Bork, not the man that left a dead girlfriend to drown, is the outrageous deviant. Reagan, the man who defeated the USSR without firing a shot, the warmonger.

If you can’t find a racist, “institute” one…and sue

Eyes still glazed over as we held our nose for Dukakis just before we were sued by an “African-American” client (He was a Black guy) for whom we secured a $10K racial discrimination settlement solely on statistical “evidence” that presumes that equal opportunity means that promotions will always correspond equally as to the race of the employees. We won the lawsuit when the plaintiff played a tape he had secretly made of the conversation between me, my law partner and the client in the car on the way back to the office from the federal courthouse.

We never rode with a client to a trial again and we never heard the term “institutional racism” sans glazed over eyes. Our civil rights hero and this South Carolinian whose parents fought segregation, always wanted only character-content-based equal rights for our Black friends and women in the workplace. Not special victim-dependent rights for children.

Bill Clinton is elected running as a moderate, oh happy day. Yet, he immediately champions gays in military and socialized medicine. Newt ends 40 years of a Democrat House and the Reagan Recovery continues, but even when the “moderate” Democrat signs conservative legislation reforming welfare or freeing trade, he is compelled to surround the conservative truth with a pack of PC lies like he’s the head front-man for the kooks, with this then Democratic Party official a lieutenant fronting for kooks.

Making the Name of God akin to obscenity in elementary school

We watched a media culture that celebrates bad boys in sports and entertainment; apologizes for radical Islam as we ask why do they hate us; and that stays silent when a Heisman Trophy-winning Bronco is openly mocked for praying to his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Too bad he didn’t park his butt in Rev. Jeremiah Hate KKK America  Wright’s pew for 20 years. Too bad he doesn’t always refer to Louis Million Man March Farrakhan as “Minister” of “The Nation” out of respect for hating Jews and the White Man as a devil? Our eyes glazed over long ago.

Other eyes-glazed-over moments:

  • BushLied Era
  • Man-made global warming requires bankrupting the coal industry and skyrocketing energy prices
  • Democrats nominate a man that started his political career in the living room of an unrepentant terrorist for President
  • Americans elect such a man and give him the nukes
  • Leftists expect us not to notice when they switch the line to “climate change” when winters get cold
  • Republicans will take away your welfare/social security/disability check
  • Republicans are racists, this from liberal Democrat lawyers that never hire blacks to work in their law firm
  • Homosexual “lifestyle”

Alice in Wonderland? No, Mike DeVine and 300 million others in what is still called the United States of America.

An America in which the middle class and poor are invited to envious hatred of “the rich” one-percent, i.e. all those making over $300,000 per anum. Where Atlas Shrugs  and capital remains on strike long after we were saved from some “abyss” by making GM/UAW a welfare company that need not sell one car to compete with Ford.

An America mocked as bitter clingers to God, guns and antipathy to people that aren’t like us? We elected this guy!

This tragedy didn’t begin with Barack Obama, but it can only end by ridding ourselves of him, the party of modern day liberalism that he heads, and those in the Party of Lincoln that revere Rockefellers  and Big Business that suspend their common sense while agreeing to all the sexual harassment/institutional racism fictions the Left can dream up, so long as their market share is protected.

Meanwhile, small businesses and most Americans get poorer, and poorer. No time for 9-9-9′s while chasing imagined poor behavior and imagined offense to the poor.

Wake up America. Say no to faux outrage. Say yes to removing the outrageous President and U.S. Senate that now rule over Common Sense with liberal intimidator nonsense.

Vote Republican every chance you get, and work to nominate c0nservative tea partying Republicans that are tried of eyes glazing over and who want to see the world as it is and return it to some approximation of a nation that could defeat evil abroad and maximize happiness pursuits in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.

Warning: It will take courage to stand up to anonymous ghosts via Politico.

Mike DeVine

Editor - Hillbilly Politics

Co-Founder and Editor - Political Daily

Atlanta Law & Politics columnist –  Examiner.com

“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

More DeVine Gamecock rooster crowings at Modern Conservative, Unified Patriots,  and Conservative Outlooks. All Charlotte Observer and Atlanta Journal-Constitution op-eds archived at Townhall.com.

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  • tngal

    Its the culture. “Lest we offend” is a key phrase. Not just with atheists but every other possible group conceivable. Maybe that’s why I’m on the Cain Train. He doesn’t care who he offends.

    I’m sure down the road a handler is going to tamp him down. But for right now he’s someone who actually speaks what’s on his mind and orders his sweat tea doctored up. I’m not going to fault someone for speaking southern.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I expected as much in liberal northern cities, but to see that crap read its head in the South! I opted out and chose small law firms, ie working for me to the good and bad. But I refused to operate for most of my days on this Earth, a slave of HR.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Liberating Americans from Too Much Law

    Economically and socially

    http://overlawyered.com/2009/01/philip-k-howard-life-without-lawyers-liberating-americans-from-too-much-law/

  • tngal

    Comes from Politico, if you can imagine. Actually started with them.

    Here’s the story of Maj. Gen. Peter Fuller, who was relieved of duties yesterday after talking with Politico.

    ______

    “In a Thursday interview with POLITICO, Fuller, a two-star general, slammed (Afghan President Hamid ) Karzai?s recent remark that Afghanistan would side with Pakistan in a war against the U.S., blasting the president?s comments as ?erratic,? and adding, ?Why don?t you just poke me in the eye with a needle! You?ve got to be kidding me. ? I?m sorry, we just gave you $11.6 billion and now you?re telling me, ?I don?t really care???

    “The U.S. is in this [too],? Fuller told POLITICO. ?If you?re in a very poor country like Afghanistan, you think that America has roads paved in gold, everybody lives in Hollywood. They don?t understand the sacrifices that America is making to provide for their security…”

    ______

    Maybe the US gov’t thought these remarks about the Afghan government could have been construed as offensive. So “lest we offend” lets just get rid of him. You’ll notice in this story they have no problem giving the name of a source.

    I like this Maj. Gen. He sounds like good people.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67653.html

  • wbf

    of reading your articles the past several years since I have been reading posts at RedState. Now that the election cycle has geared up I have posted some but really am not as politically savvy as you guys!!!

    I attended a Bible School that is situated at the foot of Paris Mountain in Greenville.(Many years ago!!) I will always be grateful for my time there. I can’t say that beyond the school I know the Greenville-Spartanburg area very well accept I met many very dear people through church.

    Even though I am voting for Perry as first choice and not Herman Cain as you are I am very glad we are on the same side.

  • wbf

    nt

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    it

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    heard of it

  • http://redmerrimack.blogspot.com/ charliebravoNH

    A lot of people would agree with him.

  • daveoconnor

    and we win.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Sometimes the race card is properly played (when its true and can advance the candidacy…although as an American, I would also say that sometimes campaign moments are the only time we get the whole country to focus on an issue/the culture and expose modern day liberalism)

    and Do Redstaters play the race card when we properly and accurately point out that it is the Left that advocates race-based laws and can’t abide a minority or woman as a nationally recognized success as conservatives because it destroys the whole narrative for the Dem Party’s need for existence? No, we are accurate.

    A few days before the Politico “story” (you know, the woman that deems the gestures not important enough to save America from a Cad?), there were many weeks of attacks by similar media calling him an Uncle Tom, essentially. That same media drags out a supposed Anita Hill on lawyered-up steroids, and its suddenly improper to bring up the import of the ecvents of the past few weeks specifically pertaining to Cain, not to mention their actions since Clarence Thomas and continuing through how Condi Rice as charicatured, etc

    It is wrong the way the Left “plays the race card” because they lie and they are projecting accusations of what they do 24/7 365.

    It is not improper to tell the truth.

  • llorta

    “Playing the race card” is NOT the same thing as actual racism. We do not refer to the abolitionists as “race card players.”

    To play the race card is to cry racism when there is no actual racism, or the charge of racism is highly dubious.

    For example, when Cain & his supporters cried racism regarding the Politico story, that was playing the race card. The fact is, any media outlet would be overjoyed to run a story about sexual harassment settlements regarding ANY Republican, white, black, brown, or blue.

    If Perry had sexual harassment settlements in his past, you had better believe Politico would have gladly ran the same story.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    the race card” while also declaring that “playing the race card” must never be done. You need to work on your definitions and match them with your values.

    I assume that it is anathema then for conservatives to utter the truth about the Left and their attacks on Thomas, Cain, Condi, Rubio et al and that the Left can’t abide a successful public minority conservative?

    The LEFT is racist. Its true. Is the truth somehow wrong to utter because you re-categorize the truth as “playing the race card”?

  • llorta

    Playing the race card is NOT the same thing as pointing out actual racism.

    And Cain HAS played the race card – he’s claimed racism when it wasn’t there, in order to divert attention and place the blame onto someone else.

    Cain wants to bring the use of the race card into the Republican party, and sadly, many Cain supporters cheer him for doing so.

  • retire05

    are you saying that since the left plays the race card, althoough we conservative have been denouncing those tactics for decades, it is now OK if one of our own plays the race card on others as Cain has on Perry?

    How does that make Cain any different that the left?

  • llorta

    Draws upon white guilt? Check.

    Uses the race card? Check.

    Blames others for his mistakes? Check.

    Clueless? Check.

    Inexperienced? Check.

    Plays the victim? Check.

    Has a following based upon speaking style and cult of personality? Check.

    The only real difference between Cain and Obama is that Obama was seriously running for president. I believe the balance of evidence indicates that Cain is not running to actually win.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    We at Redstate and conservatives generally state often as a matter of fact that the Dems have, for over 45 years, lied about us a racist, bigots and homophobes; engage in high tech lynchings of conservative blacks; and are the party of the liberal plantation? We usually define as evil when the Left engages in the above and properly so, because they are not honest. They draw ridiculous conclusions about the hearts of conservatives based on irrelevant and illogical gotchas from sentence fragments.

    That is not what Cain is doing. Cain is under attack from anonymous sources from the same media that we all bemoan as above for 45 years and that has attacked him over race for 4 weeks.

    To just dismiss anyone that points out the racialist activity of others is not the same as what is usually meant by “playing the race card”, but I can tell you that the paranoid thinking of many conservatives but mostly moderates is to immediately shut up if the MSM cried race card playing. This means that liberals attacking us are treated as reasonable and our side immediately retreats from proper assessment of the Left and media and Dems as they slander our side.

    Crying race card playing doesn’t end the argument here. It just begins it.

    Cain is right that his status as a black conservative leader does animate the Left against him in a special way. Yes, all conservatives will be smeared, but the Left is the one that plays race cards venally. Not Redstate when we point it out, and not Cain for saying what he and us have truthfully stated for decades, esp since Clarence Thomas.

  • paulplantowin

    Cain and other minority conservatives get attacked over voting blocks, IMO
    Dems have a huge block of Black voters. Cain threatens to split that vote, and bring large numbers over to the conservative side.
    A growing movement has been simmering for years – but Cain could turn out to be a rallying point.
    It seems valid to me that Dems feel strongly threatened by the potential for Cain to split the Black vote- and not just for 1 election, but for good.
    Cain articulates this at times – at other times he ‘shorthands’ it and sometimes even takes cheap shots.
    But his potential to split the Black vote is the core issue.
    And the Dems know it.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    race-based laws. And their actions and policies for 45 years and the last 45 days confirms their vitriol against Cain, as like Thomas and Rubio. Did you miss that discussion here at Redstate? Have we all been improperly playing the race card as you say, as a “tactic”? What tactic? Its speech. The Left speaks with forked-tongue on race. That is what is venal. Not merely that race is part of one’s speech.

    It depends on WHAT one says ABOUT race.

    The Left lies. They attribute racism to our spending restraints. They play gotcha with Rush and other’s language.

    That si not what Cain is doing.

  • llorta

    Cain HAS played the race card several times, and if you aren’t willing to acknowledge that, then it only damages your credibility.

    Yes, when people attack conservative blacks as “Uncle Toms” & “Oreos,” they are being racist. But that does NOT mean every attack against a black conservative is racist.

    It isn’t racist to go after Cain for his verbal gaffes. It isn’t racist to go after sexual harassment settlements in his past.

    And here you go again, with Cain being under attack by anonymous accusers. The fact is, Cain DOES know who his accusers are. A lot of people do. In fact, the media does, too, they just haven’t publicized their names (yet). Your claim that these are anonymous accusers is ridiculous, because you can’t make settlements with and write a check to anonymous claimants.

    Furthermore, it appears likely that these women weren’t the ones to bring all this up, that there was a third party who leaked the story. And the identity of the leak doesn’t really matter, as the essence of the leak – that there were two sexual harassment settlements involving Cain – is a simple matter of fact.

  • paulplantowin

    It is clear the liberal Black ‘leadership’ of the JesseJackson. NAACP, CBC ilk have a lot invested in keeping Blacks in the Democrat party.
    It is clear Black conservatives threaten that Block of voters.
    Cain threatens to split the Black base far more than ever before.
    The man is therefore a target for destruction – by Dems – by whatever means they can find.
    Sort of a race card thing – but really about votes (power).
    And Dems do not mind playing real dirty.

  • bzip

    If you can’t see that Cain and other conservative pundits have been using the race card – you are so far gone it isn’t even worth the time.

    I reject and denounce all use by the left and right for the use of the racial card. It’s about time people started getting back to their principles instead of hiding behind the race card.

  • tngal

    I’m still wondering why Perry put his hand on Cain during that one debate and called him brother. Someone tried to pass it off a religious thing, but that’s not how it came across.

    Perry didn’t touch his shoulder and say, “Brother Cain, I love you…” he said “Herman, I love you brother…” Man that was awkward. The R word came to mind.

    So what were the two women so upset about?. We do know a girl at a radio staton was ‘uncomfortable” because he said “darlin would you doctor up my sweet tea.”

    This is normal speech in the south were most men call women darlin’, honey, sweetie. married or not. And in fact women call both men and women the same thing. If these are the types of phrases the NRA women are upset about Herman has shot straight with you all along, There is no harrassment.

  • izoneguy

    be judged by the color of his skin instead of the content of his character

  • Ann_W

    –nt

  • llorta

    The fact is, the “darlin doctor my tea” incident didn’t lead to a sexual harassment settlement.

    But it is rather telling that you imply that the women who did reach sexual harassment settlements against Cain were making something out of nothing. Despite the fact that you don’t KNOW the facts behind those allegations.

    You see, Cain and his followers would have us give Cain the benefit of the doubt, since we don’t know the facts. And since we don’t know the facts, it is a free-for-all to smear his women accusers. That seems fair, uh huh.

    Stay classy you Cain supporters.

  • tngal

    until Proven Guilty. It’s a little thing we do here in the US. it’s trivial really, but what can you do huh?

    You’re right We don’t know all the facts so until then it is— and will remain—-INNOCENT until proven otherwise.

  • pttx333

    one that you should know by heart. So what is the big deal with it?

  • llorta

    This isn’t a court of law, where we’re looking at locking him up in jail. This is the court of public opinion. And yes, voters can make any judgments they want, by any standard they want.

    But like I said, it really isn’t about “innocent until proven guilty,” because Cain, you, and a WHOLE LOT of Cain’s supporters only apply that to their candidate, and NOT with his accusers.

    And by the way, you still didn’t address my point, you only tried to divert it by pointing the finger, just like Cain does.

  • jrmax13

    Contrary to what is being propagated: “I love you brother” is not a purely Southern expression. Can anyone here tell us where or in what context they have heard this ?

  • llorta

    Exactly, “brother” is used in a number of different contexts. One of those being a term of endearment that accompanies a statement, to indicate “I’m saying this as a friend, not as an enemy.

    But tngal, you continue chasing racism where there is none, and ignoring it where there is some.

  • llorta

    nt

  • retire05

    You seem to be confused. Perry NEVER put his hand on Cain’s shoulder. I don’t believe that at the debate where Perry called Cain “brother” they were even standing next to each other. Perhaps you can show where they were.

    But being a TN gal, you seem rather uninformed by Southern lexicons. I would say to you, in the South, “tell me, sister, why do you support Cain?” (of course, I have asked you that for which you have no legitimate answer. To a man I might say, “Hey, brother, you going to the deer lease this weekend?”

    And no, men in the South don’t typically call women “darlin’, sweetie, honey” or any such terms of endearment, not unless they want the husbands to call them down on that. Most Southern men are gentlemen. They don’t call women nicknames. Ms/Mrs Tngal would be approriate. Obviously you hand out with a rude bunch.

  • pttx333

    to some folks. Jeez – I suppose “Miss” would also be construed as “racist” because that is how I refer to my dearest girlfriends – “Miss Carol,” “Miss Margaret” – and so on. This PC BS run amok!!!!

  • retire05

    with Southern lexicons when she claims to be Southern. Makes you go Ummmm?

  • llorta

    Cain: “I am the Koch Brothers’ brother from another mother. Yes. I’m their brother from another mother! And proud of it!”

    So by tngal’s own standard, she must admit Cain is a racist, because “brother” = racist.

  • jrmax13

    You paid folk are slipping, you forgot another context of Brother — Fundamentalist Christians use it in every other sentence. Isn’t Cain a minister ? I’m just sayin’

  • pttx333

    she should be even more aware of Southern colloquialisms than we Texans. Wouldn’t ya think so? And we’ve got a whole slew of them that are near and dear to my heart.

    And even if Perry did ever put his hand on someone’s shoulder would be no big deal to me – not even remotely. That is also a Southern thing, or at least a Texas thing. I’m a “toucher” and don’t even realize I’m doing it most of the time. It isn’t a threatening or demeaning or belittling gesture in the least – it is more of an endearment gesture, I suppose to show affection.

    I think some folks need to stop all of the politically correct BS and join the real world. As for me, when I’m mad, everyone will know it – and I think that our “brother” Perry would be the same. LOL

  • llorta

    and I don’t get paid to do this. Projection perhaps?

  • pttx333

    playing real dirty. In fact, I believe they plot on a regular basis as to how to smear those who do not agree or just go along with them – and take delight in the entire process! And that is why we need a take-no-prisoners type of President. That is what it is going to take to get rid of the scum in D.C. to the extent it can be done.

  • tngal

    Here’s from Wapo 10/19/11… They did a short blurb on the “brother” reference. There are a bunch more but I just pulled off the first few. Naturally, MSNBC threw fits, but others had a problem, too. Some think it might be religous, others think it might be north/south/ others think its the R word. I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE uncomfortable.
    _______

    ?Herman, I love you, brother, but let me tell you something, you don?t need to have a big analysis to figure this thing out,? Perry said. ?At the end of the week, I?m going to be laying out a plan that clearly — I?ll bump plans with you, brother, and we?ll see who has the best idea about how you get this country working again.?

    In the Fix?s live blog during the debate, here?s how people reacted:

    Comment From Andrew: Two ?brother? references already

    Comment From e-trout: twice!

    Comment From Me: if he calls him boy, Im turning this off

    Comment From Dave: Rick Perry has been taken over by the late Randy Savage! Get him some slim jims!

    So, just what did Perry mean when he called Cain ?brother,? a term he didn?t use with anyone else on stage (in fact, Perry called Romney ?sir? three times, even as Perry was being attacked and on the attack. His disdain was apparent with each ?sir.?).

    Was Perry channeling scholar Cornel West or even the late wrestler Randy Savage, both known for referring to everyone as brother? Or was Perry attempting a do-over of sorts on matters of race? (Remember that it was Cain and Cain alone who spoke out against the hunting camp incident, though the later backpedaled.)

    Perry?s spokesman Ray Sullivan said on CNN?s American Morning of the exchange: ?He is a friendly fellow. He uses that kind of language. And he views all those folks on stage as colleagues, as fellow Republicans, and he speaks accordingly.?
    __________

    So he called Romney sir 3 times. But called Cain “brother” three times in that debate. Cain did not call him on it. Cain did not say a word. He could have, but he let your candidate slide. I would have grilled Perry’s liver, plus ordered a side of some kind of beans and a nice bottle of chianti.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/rick-perry-called-herman-cain-brother-why/2011/10/19/gIQA9UFwxL_blog.html

  • llorta

    Did you realize that Cain is a member of a “social justice” church that has people like Jesse Jackson as guest speakers, and a lead pastor that cites Malcolm X as an inspiration?

    Is anyone really surprised then to find out Cain uses the race card when it suits him? And do we want to allow Cain and his supporters to usher in the use of the race card into the Republican party?

    No thank you.

  • retire05

    to tell us who you are supporting.

    Cat got your tongue?

  • pttx333

    aware of which church Cain attends, but after the couple of weeks or so, I’m not one bit surprised – unfortunately.

    Thanks again for another eye-opener!

  • retire05

    originated the “rock” story is a sure sign of your desparation. Now, obviously you are not a true Southerner, or you would know that “brother” is a term we use regularly, just as we call women “sister.”

    You must be a Tennessee transplant.

  • tngal

    Yes brother can be construed as racist. And Darlin can be construed as sexual. But Brother, as you have pointed out, is not always be racist. And Darlin’, as I have tried to point out, is not always sexual.

    Funny thing about words. Isn’t it?

  • pttx333

    or one that would even know/understand how the word “brother” is used in places outside the Beltway?

  • llorta

    “Uncomfortable?” Oh brother! Whoops, there racist me goes again!

    Are you really that oblivious, or are you just being intentionally obtuse?

    Hello! A lot of people use “sir” when referring to someone with contempt.

    And a lot of people use “brother” when indicating they are saying this as a friend, not an enemy. Hence “Herman, I love you brother, but let me tell you something, you don’t have to have a big analysis to figure this thing out.” Prefacing his criticism with “I love you” is the same thing as calling him “brother,” – Perry is indicating he means this criticism in the nicest way possible.

    Notice there is lots of hostility from Perry to Romney, but none from Perry to Cain (despite incredible malice from Cain to Perry).

    And remember, if “brother” is racist, Cain uses it, as well as phrases like “a REAL black man,” and don’t forget the classic, I am “Black Walnut Ice cream ?.it tastes good all the time.”

    But why don’t you ignore all of these points and just launch another lame attack.

  • llorta

    pttx333, there’s far more than just that. Read this article, and pay special attention to how one of Cain’s friends describes Cain’s views on racism in the tea party.

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/18/the-liberal-church-of-herman-cain/

  • windwaker24

    Perry called some white guy in NH “brother” last week in his speech. I guess he’s an equal opportunity racist.

    As for men calling women darlin’, honey, sweetie, etc. from my own personal experience, it usually means something else, if you know what I mean. I walk away FAST and stay away!

  • jrmax13

    I have yet to decide which candidate deserves my vote the most. As you may be aware, I am moving almost the same week as the election (primary) here in this lovely, lone star, state. So, maybe I will vote twice. Against Perry here and against Perry in the new, beautiful, full of water place I am moving to. Getting back to your original boring question. I cannot say yet – It really depends on how the Cain stories fold out in the next week or two. Even if Cain’s situation gets better and the accusers turn out to be liars, here is my most likely rundown — Gingrich # 1
    Cain # 2
    Bachmann # 3
    Paul # 4
    Huntsman # 5
    Santorum # 6
    and coming in at lucky # 7 is Tricky Ricky Pewwy.

    Pewwy/Fwwank 2012 !

  • avagreen

    and other non-spoken communication that goes along with it.

    You do know that 10% of communication is verbal, while 90% is non-verbal?
    That’s why so many misunderstandings can happen on the internet when someone can’t gauge the facial messages, the tonal message, the body language message, etc.

  • pttx333

    a total mess we have. However, I’ve been for my guy Perry from Day One (and long before that) and will not waver or stumble in my support. As I’ve always seen it, he is the the one who can get the job done to the extent it CAN be accomplished – given the huge mess he will be left in D.C. Lordy, is there enough bleach in this world to even begin to clean it up????

  • avagreen

    http://cultivatingexcellence.com/CX%20Papers/90%25%20NonVerbal%20Factor.pdf

    That’s why you can smile and someone and say something nice, but if you slam the door on the way out of the room, you’ve destroyed the smile, and left a hostile comment.

    This is just a part in anger training, and how to cut down on miscommunications (when someone “thinks” they’ve said the “right thing”, but someone the argument continues on.

  • acat

    Announcing intent to commit vote fraud. In public.

    Better hope nobody traces your IP address.

    Also, the “Perry’s gay” smear doesn’t seem to be working. Either there never was anything to the story, or his people are better at Clinton and Cain’s at making sure nothing leaks…. In either case, you’re looking pathetic.

    Mew

  • tngal

    Honey, you got a problem. Did you ever watch the show “Alice”. its big line was Kiss my grits. But that show offered up a slice into southern vernacular.

    I buy my gas daily a little quick mart. There are 3 young men and at least six women working at that shop. Various days of the week, various times. Two know my name. I go up and say I want 10 dollars on pump five, or something similar. The ones who know me address me by name . The others, male and female call me darlin’ or sweetie or honey, or my fav sunshine. Depending on whether they are older than me. Its nothing to have a 40 year old man say, that all you need tonight darlin? How bout donating a dollar to the food bank? I’m 52. No sex there. Just a guy that doesn’t know my name and calls me darlin’ because it sounds better than “That all you need lady?” or Wha’elsetchu wan???

  • windwaker24

    When I am called “honey” or “sweetie” by man it usually means he wants something more than just a conversation. Usually, it’s a man who has no business talking to me in the first place that’s why I said I walk away FAST!

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    anonymous. By your standard of guilty when anyone leaks a story, so that then the accused must imagine all the women that may have been offended by his gestures?

    I reject that.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    somehow”playing the race card” in a way that’s indistinquishable from how the Left venally plays same. But you can assert the conclusion that Cain has misplayed the card rather well. Nice try.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    got links? Or just slurs?

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    makes some statements. No link, no name of church…just hearsay. BTW, Reagan had Jesse in to the White House when he brought a hostage back from Cuba.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    when he rejected the Nation of Islam’s hatred, denounced the leader’s adultery, and was probably killed by Farrakhan.

    So that the bare bones statements by llorta are quite meaningless absent context.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    a menace

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    huh?

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    those spreading the rumors had racial motives. How could he not answer in the affirmative knowing the panoply of media spreading the rumors. Many are the same that publicized the racial attacks on him.

    Deal with actual facts rather than vague “race card” talk that relieves you of the need to think in specifics.

    Also, when you make allegations of facts, you should provide the links justifying same, as in Cain’s church, etc.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    the liberal victim tells us so! That is what is wrong in America and with the attacks on Cain. They are per se illegitimate until proven otherwise. We have all lived in this stupid work environment for the past 25 years and are disgusted with those that take this crap seriously.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    nt

  • tngal

    You’re the energizer bunny! I had to get some sleep but you’re still manning the fort. They are a tenacious lot. I say lets set up the trebuche and start flinging cows, goats and assorted fruit over the walls. they couldn’t smell any worse than they do now. Might knock some sense into them.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    for the last 30 mins. Do I post quickly and prolifically? Yes. But I have not been “on the job” refuting race card playing for more than 60 mins max. We have a life…football and House re-runs!

  • gekster

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/18/the-liberal-church-of-herman-cain/

    Don’t shoot the messenger, just informing.

  • retire05

    ad?

    And how do you say that Cain is NOT playing the “race” card when he was asked, point blank, if he thinks the scandal was due to his race and he said “Yes, but we have no proof of that?” Could he have not said instead “No, I think it is because of my poll numbers in the primaries.”

    Yes, Cain is using the left’s tactics of playing the race card. He doesn’t need to keep reminding us that he is a “black” conservative. We have eyes that see, you know.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Not seeing a problem. I also backed a Mormon in 2007-8 before and after Fred and fully expect to be settling for a Mormon in 2012…smile

    I am a very theologically conservative Southern Baptist and was even when I was a Democrat until age 38. I have been members of churches that were more or less liberal or conservative on politics. Cain is a staunch conservative politically. Not seeing a problem with Cain. I do see a problem with innuendo by many on this thread. Not you ‘ster, and thx for the link.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    my column and comments have already asked and answered. You don’t like the answer, but that doesn’t mean I play Oliver North w/o a lawyer as potted plant while you ask the same question different ways. Again, you attack magic to a phrase “play the race card” as if that definition is well defined and one of the 7 deadly sins…rather than explain what is wrong about what Cain said.

    Again, the Left is racist in all ways and regularly attacks black conservatives as Uncle Toms, which they did for weeks before the sex harassment claims surfaced by the same media. Again, the Left media is racist, all the time. Cain acknowledges same in this context. Nit seeing a problem.

    Dems regularly accuse Repubs as being racist w/o substance.

    The latter seems bad. Maybe even as bad as murder or, egad! palying the race card?

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    the recession is hurting us all…smile

  • tngal

    Burns & Haberman at Politico.

    “A new woman alleging sexual harassment by presidential hopeful Herman Cain will break her silence at a news conference with her powerhouse attorney Gloria Allred Monday afternoon in New York City, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting. ”

    Not sure where this is going, just know Gloria Allred has always come off a bit flakey. I know she’s trying to boost ratings for some show she has. Maybe this is a pro-bono thing, who knows. But i’m putting this out there for everybody to keep your ears perked for this. You can check out the radar online story (its entertainment fluff stories ) or the politico thingy.

    http://www.politico.com/2012-election/

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Christians are about saving souls for eternal life with God. This trumps politics and may well argue for a man to stay as a witness in his home church. It is unrelated to politics.

    I would say that despite all of Jesse Jackson’s bad politics that he has had the down with dope, up with hope message since I was in High School and that is a good message for church too.

  • retire05

    killed the chances that Meg Whitman would ever be governor of California. I am sure that was Allred’s goal, but people would rather have Governor Moonbeam over Whitman.

    The devil they knew over the devil they thought they knew.

  • nathanalbright

    …is willing and able to come out into the public, at least we might have some chance of getting some details besides all the internecine mud-wrestling and smoke-blowing, considering Cain hasn’t been very willing to clear up the confusion about this issue.

  • tngal

    But I know a lot of people are looking for someone to come forward so Allred dug one up. You know where my loyalties lie. I just put it out as an annoucenment so everyone (cainiacs and perrypushers alike ) could be alert.

    At this point I don’t care if the entire lineup of the Crimson Tide cheerleaders quit their grazing in the endzone long enough to come forward and charge him with harassment. I’m still on the cain train.

    (sorry tide fans. It’s an ole tn joke. Really gals, it IS a joke. )

  • joayn

    I think it was on Hannity, where Sean asked him about Perry’s use of brother and did that bother Cain. Cain’s reply was,”Heck no, he’s (Perry) my christian brother, I took no offense at all.” I’m paraphrasing but Cain totally brushed it aside even though Sean was looking for something. I gave Cain a lot of credit for saying that.

  • tngal

    As I said, I was squeemish by it. And other posters seemed a bit concerned as well. But this didn’t bother Mr. C. I guess he doesn’t take offense as quickly as say, some aggrieved woman might, over a word or two.

  • tngal

    Herman has written for this syndicated group for several years.

    Here’s a taste of what’s in the op-ed. go to their site for the full story.

    ______________________
    Consider: I held various executive positions in corporate America for several decades. I had thousands of employees working for me. I can?t even begin to recall how many conversations I had with people during that time, how many directives I gave, how much friendly banter might have taken place.

    I also had to make tough decisions during these years. I turned around a poorly performing region for Burger King, then turned around a struggling Godfather?s Pizza organization. At some point during a career like this, someone will not like things you do, or how you do it. Someone will complain.

    ___________

    Go to
    http://www.northstarwriters.com/

    and click on herman’s picture.

    Or do it the long way….

    http://www.northstarwriters.com/2011/11/06/media-obsessed-with-nonsense-the-voters-and-i-are-not/

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Hence, my disinterest in “harassment”. I have been harassed my whole life.

  • joayn

    Couldn’t resist.

    Actually this helps Romney, Obama, and congress (both Dems & Repubs). I still think it was either the Obama peeps or the Romney camp. Whoever dropped this story knew this would take the oxygen out of the race and I think it only benefits one candidate. But that’s just my opinion; I have no proof. But I’ve always thought this was a two-fer – a take out of Cain and Perry.

    It’s the Cain scandal AGAIN 24/7!! G*d I hate this stuff. And Gloria Allred? Please, nooooooooo ….

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    example – Love it! Thx ‘gal.

  • retire05

    how Cain closed almost half the Godfather’s stores and laid thousands of people off, putting them in the unemployment linen (911 stores to 497)? Or any mention how Cain reduced the value of Godfather’s to $30 million that he, and another investor purchased, in a hostile takeover?

    Or did that just slip his mind like the women?

  • tngal

    former worker whose making at least one of the claims? He doesn’t mention the numbers. He says he had to make tough decisions. That’s what you do when you’re a boss.

    Kinda like the guy who had to lay off workers at his coffee shop because OWS was blocking streets and not letting potential customers get to the store. No profit means no business and no jobs for anyone.

  • bzip

    You might find the following article interesting and there are many more like these by many different people os it isn’t just a single person making these claims;

    Checking the Fact Checkers on Herman Cain and Godfather?s Pizzas
    http://jayraskin.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/checking-the-fact-checkers-on-herman-cain-and-godfathers-pizzas/

  • tngal

    different piece on NRO today about Mr. Cain, which gives insights into how Cain handles employees.

    ___________________
    Cain energized his headquarters staff with after-work sing-alongs and expected top supervisors to communicate on a first-name basis with all of their subordinates. Cain tested them on this skill. He also pressed $50 bills into the palms of employees whose customer service or pizza-making prowess impressed him as he visited Godfather?s outlets.
    ______________________

    There’s a bit in there as well about the allegations and also some about the left wing media is ignoring his background.
    Primarily the article focuses on his business belief. Now why did I bring up the part about Mr. Murdock being black? Because he didn’t. He never held it up as a story about a successful black businessman. He just wrote up a story around a successful Businessman. He could could gone the other way. But chose not to .

  • tngal

    Sorry, it slipped away. But I caught it.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/282326/herman-cain-successful-ceo-deroy-murdock

  • retire05

    company from #3 in the industry to #5, liquidating almost half of its assets, laying off thousands of people and reducing the company’s value tremendously as a success. But in most people’s mind, a company is successful if it grows, not shrinks.

    And perhaps Herman Cain could emulate Delroy Murdoch and eliminate the word “black” from his dialog.

  • gekster

    What does the writer being an American with African descent have to do with anything.
    What were you trying to say by posting that way.

  • Melody Warbington (a/k/a rwm52)

    of the comment. Appears tngal already addressed your question.

  • joayn

    I would say that it was a spontaneous and honest response, and that he did not take Sean’s obvious effort to rope him into to accusing Perry of something that just didn’t exist.

    But big of him? No.

  • gekster

    Just wondered why she brought it up.
    I don’t think it was necessary.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    It had structural problems that came due and morale was very low. I looked in to this back in 2004 when I backed Cain for US Senate here in GA. He also saved Burger King.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    2 pictures of currently operating Godfathers and Burger King.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Cain fixed two employee-heavy companies (everyone forgets he saved Burger King?) from going under and thus employing zero.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    faith

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    not allred

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    keep their women inside the house?

    You go outside, you go into the brutal world and workplace, and yet no one has any business talking to you?

    See, this is the problem. Men are out here trying to make money to eat.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    reduce it to 9%!

    http://blog.heritage.org/2011/11/08/obama-couldnt-wait-his-new-christmas-tree-tax/

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    it wasn’t worth the trouble, ie not serious enough to ruin a man’s rep.

  • center77

    but since he is running now, it makes sense to come out and tell your story, when you hear there are others, it makes even more sense, then when he says they are lying, wouldn’t that cause her to come out, if he did do it. So saying she did not come out before means she is not telling the truth is just not honest. I still think conservatives should be better than liberals, and right now, many are showing me I was wrong.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    get it