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Any blind Lady Justice sees race not a factor in Trayvon Martin shooting

By: Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary)  |  April 18th, 2012 at 02:44 PM  | 

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A properly blindfolded Lady Justice wouldn’t know if a corpus delicti looks like President Barack Obama’s imaginary son and wouldn’t weigh empathy in the scales of justice.

 

Unless one accepts the default assumption of “Civil Rights” industrialists, including the Attorney General-dubbed “anti-race cowards”  law firm of Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson, Lee & Nzinga, that White America (including so-called “white Hispanics”) circa. A.D. 2012 is a monolithic Jim Crow or that George Zimmerman’s heart, mind and soul is uniquely readable; there is no reason to suspect that the shooting of Trayvon Martin had anything to do with racism.

Rather than accept “Reverend” Jesse Jackson’s conclusion that “Blacks are under attack” in America and proceed to heed Cheif Magistrate Obama’s admonsihon to “search our souls”, why not first listen to the 911 tape, which reveals the following:

Zimmerman:

We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.

This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman:

He looks black.

911 dispatcher:

Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, a dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. He wore jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now … he’s just staring. [00:42]

Apparently the 6’2″ teen wasn’t singing in the rain and, like Gene Kelly, apparently wasn’t up to no good either; but most folks reserve leisurely strolls for non-stormy weather. All things being equal, including skin pigmentation, walks in the rain sans umbrellas can be seen as “suspicious” on some level.

We can’t read the hearts of John Does, Trayvons or Zimmermans, but what we do know is that the race of the unarmed man was only brought up by the 911 dispatcher, not the armed neighborhood watch volunteer who ended up injured about his face and head, but alive, after his confrontation that he claims ended with an exercise in the right of self defense.

Hopefully a jury will decide the matter, rather than New Black Panther Party vigilante bounties or Spike Lee tweets aiding and abetting same; all of which race-obsessed felonies continue to go un-acted upon by either Holder’s Justice Department or legal authorities in the Sunshine State.

Before President Barack Obama nominated his two Supreme Court nominees that now sit on the nation’s highest court, he said the main quality he looked for in a judge was “empathy” for the “weak” against the strong. We got a glimpse of what empathy means to the president when he immediately accused Cambridge, Massachusetts police of “acting stupidly” when they investigated a reported break-in at the home of a Black, i.e. “weak” Harvard Professor friend of his. That sad affair ended with Obama and Vice President Joe Biden eating crow at a White House “beer summit”.

The sad spectacle of AG Holder congratulating “Reverend” Sharpton while Black racist vigilante voter intimidators roam free in Sanford, Florida reveals that President Obama still favors a Lady Justice that peeks from under the blindfold to see if the Party of the First Part or the Party of the Second Part is the one that deserves her “empathy”.

Justice be damned.

This is what happens when you elect a man that sat at the feet of “Reverend Jeremiah Wright for 20 years.

Mike DeVine

Atlanta Law & Politics columnist –  Examiner.com

Editor - Hillbilly Politics

Co-Founder and Editor - Political Daily

“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

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  • Viet71

    It’s sad that the civil rights movement led by MLK has devolved to Florida v. Zimmerman, or whatever the case name.

    If Obama’s playing the race card here, he’ll pay dearly in November. Not because of his skin color. But because Americans of all stripes are sick and tired of the race card.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    ntea

  • Scope

    for not taking your eye off this ball. Just as with the Fluke distraction, it wasn’t about her dang birth control pills, it was much more about our religious freedoms being attacked. Unfortunately those on our side always get sucked up into the propaganda media control, and run with the narrative of it being a Republican War on Women. How many have stayed with it being a religious attack? Not many.

    Such is the case with the Zimmerman/Martin case. The media again very successfully contorted the entire case into a Republican, or more precisely white, war against the blacks. The Sharpton Jackson wannabe race hustler http://www.creators.com/opinion/roland-martin.html”>Roland Martin had an article up this past weekend, literally calling the young blacks to boot up, join hands, and call these white racial profilers, and gun yeilding idiots out for their continuing crimes against the blacks.

    “The post-civil rights movement generation-I am a member of it because I was born in November 1968, often has been reluctant to embrace a social justice agenda. Instead too many have a me-myself-and-I mentality. Very few issues have led this generation to say “Enough is enough! The death of Martin may be the catalyst that I and others have said is long overdue.”

    Get that, we blacks have to ban together in our cause because we have to have the numbers to fight these white jackarses that we still have grievances against, even though we have enjoyed the benefits of the civil rights movement, the affirmative action laws, and the push from the first black president to recognize what would have looked like his son if he had one. Hey Pigford wasn’t nearly enough.

    One of the saving graces, I hope, was actually written by a liberal law blogger here where she says that the state, by including signed sworn statements by the special investigators, saying that Zimmerman said “punks” instead of the racial slur others seem to have heard, they all but foreclosed on any federal hate crime legislation, should the feds try to bring those charges against Zimmerman in the future.

    As you said, this case has nothing at all to do with justice, it has everything to do with an excuse to wage racial war on this country which no doubt will result with major destruction, and even possibly death. I’m sure you’ve read about the May 1 Arab spring, OWS type day of rage coming to the US. As Roland Martin advised in his call to action piece, they need all the blacks to hit the streets, just as it was the 1960′s all over again. George Zimmerman was only the sacrifical offering, by the weak kneed, intimated Fla. Gov officials, all the way up to the Gov., who folded to the mob. All Scott did was sign the permits for riots across the US, and his state will not escape the mayhem.

    Just as the media turned the Fluke crap into a contracpetion debate, and forgot the religious liberty angle, the Zimmerman/Martin case has been excused away as nothing more than a local law issue, even though a person is sitting in solitary confinement, already convicted by a rabid leftist press, and the message of innocent until proven guilty, and following the rule of law has disappeared from the discussion.

  • Ned Reck

    Excellent!

    Ned

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    intee

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    nt

  • betheljcovel

    Thank you for your article. I live in Orlando, It was a disgrace that the Black Panther’s were passing out posters in Sanford and around here, George Zimmerman “Wanted Dead or Alive” Talk about Vigilante Justice! Also, Sharpton and Jackson had crawled out from under their rock and was stirring up civil unrest. Innocent until proven guilty, I don’t think so.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    entei

  • demsaresatanic

    there was probable cause to arrest Zimmerman, do you believe that there is probable to arrest those new black panthers who called for Zimmerman’s kidnapping dead or alive?

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Don’t be a revisionist historian. Let’s deal with what I actually write and not imagined inferences and of course there is probable cause to arrest panthers and spike lee.

  • texastaxpayer

    We all need to ensure this doesn’t just “slip” our or our neighbors, friends and families memories this fall. Obama is a racist period. Eric holder is a racist period. People need to remember that when it comes time to vote….

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Probable cause is a low threshold and clearly there was probable cause to arrest Zimmerman, which is a totally different subject than this present column.

    Reading whole columns is fundamental before commenting.

    PS Texastap, sorry to use your comment to coax and school demsare’…smile

  • demsaresatanic

    “Zimmerman admits Trayvon was unarmed, that no third party witnessed the initial encounter between he and Trayvon, that he shot Trayvon and that Trayvon is dead. Those facts establish probable cause to arrest for homicide,” is exactly what you wrote.
    http://www.redstate.com/uplateagain/2012/03/30/why-zimmerman-has-not-been-arrested/#comment-263

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Two totally separate issues. One could be motivated by racism to follow a person and there not be probable cause for homicide or one could be not motivated by race and there be probable cause for homicide. One has nothing to do with the other. There can be probable cause that a crime was committed and that the defendant committed it with out regard to racism and that person be properly found not guilty of any crime or guilty of a lesser crime than the original charged.

    Now, the term “homicide” encompasses possible guilt of several crimes and can later be deemed justified self defense. The latter issue will depend on exactly how the immediate confrontation that led to the physical encounter occurred and who provoked it at the moment of confrontation AND whether AFTER the confrontation ensued if the defendant rightly believed he had to use lethal force to prevent his own death or serious personal injury.

    Hope that helps. I have written two columns, i.e the first about the improper injection of race by Obama and this one about the lack of evidence that Zimmerman was motivated by race. But Zimmerman could be motivated by good reasons and still have acted so that probable cause exists for his arrest and be guilty of a charge in the death, ie probably manslaughter. But I haven’t written a column on the matter because I linked to McCarthy and other columns that addressed that in detail, but due to your apparent confusion, I will try and do one in detail this weekend.

    God bless and thx for the exchange.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    that I mostly agree with McCarthy below that the affidavit certainly doesn’t present facts that should survive a PC challenge on the charge of Murder 2nd, given the elements required to prove that specific charge.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295997/martin-case-affidavit-andrew-c-mccarthy

  • demsaresatanic

    you reached the conclusion that there is probable cause to arrest Zimmerman for homicide, which I quoted above.

    You took, “Zimmerman admits Trayvon was unarmed, that no third party witnessed the initial encounter between he and Trayvon, that he shot Trayvon and that Trayvon is dead,” and concluded “(t)hose facts establish probable cause to arrest for homicide.”

    Obviously there is a “lack of evidence that Zimmerman was motivated by race,” it is your conclusion that there is probable cause to arrest Zimmerman that I disagree with.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Of course “homicide” includes voluntary and involuntary manslaughter and you never state why you disagree. You just take pot shots and that’s fine and being a non-lawyer, you really wouldn’t have the knowledge to explain explain way. But I will say that Andrew McCarthy whose judgment as a prosecutor I trust totally also doubts there is PC even for manslaughter, so you are in good company.

    Many times my comments are incomplete, esp for non-lawyers and for that, I apologize.

    I do agree that the national Dems are satanic, so you get a pass on your exalted view of probable cause, which view would have many obvious dangers to society running loose! smile

    I would say that the practical way that the definition of PC is employed in real cases is that the threshold for arrest is even lower than the threshold at preliminary hearings, grand juries, and especially after the State rests in a jury trial.

    When an unarmed dead body lies near an armed shooter under these circumstances, and especially those known near the time of the incident, probable cause to detain, ie arrest the shooter is very low, for a good reason.

  • Scope

    are not versed in the law, will you please comment on this article that was written by a lawyer, who goes paragraph by paragraph in determining that no criminal activity has been displayed by Zimmerman. The author believes that within the four corners of that document, not only is there a lack of any pertinent data to warrant a charge of 2nd degree murder, but even a charge of manslaughter is very questionable. The article isn’t that long, and I would appreciate your critique of the analysis made of the PCA.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    for 2nd degree murder, which I have said repeatedly. But homicide encompasses charges from Murder One down to involuntary manslaughter or reckless homicide and clearly there was probable cause for lesser charges that a competent affidavit could allege based upon many facts revealed in the press, and that I have commented on for weeks. I have not written a column on the issue of probable cause to put all that together and may not given that I was contracted for two columns that addressed the issue of race. But in my comment above I did discuss the practical issue of the differing applications of the PC standard immediately after the incident, at preliminary hearings and after the State rests its case in chief at trial.

    Haven’t yet read the linked article but will try to before Monday here.

    I have mentioned and linked earlier to articles by Dershowitz and McCarthy that take the same position that you describe is made in your link.

    Good discussion.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    and perhaps the police should have taken Mr. Zimmerman into custody to begin with (although I’m not going to second guess their actions for who could have anticipated what’s happened). However, I really doubt it would have made much difference if they had. Sharpton, Jackson, et al. would have found a way to turn this into a race war regardless of what actually happened before, during or after Mr. Martin’s death.

  • texasref

    and it is up to him to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that he did so to defend himself against great bodily harm. The fact that he experienced great bodily harm before he was able to stop the threat is very favorable to his defense.

    There is no question that there exists probable cause to charge Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder. However, that is not the only standard a prosecutor must consider. The prosecutor cannot ethically bring a charge that a reasonable prosecutor of ordinary prudence would find more likely than not that a jury would find the defendant did act in self defense.

    So while there is PC for the charges, they never should have been brought.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    that he has to prove it was self defense, but for the Gov to get him on Murder two, they have to prove their case, which in this case, they have to prove he has a depraved mind, and he set out to kill that night. That will not happen, unless they have something huge that none of us know about. But to convict him,, the gov has the burden. He still has constitutional rights after all.

  • texasref

    by a preponderance of the evidence.

  • garfieldjl

    I don’t think Zimmerman will have any problem proving the “Stand Your Ground” law applies, heck traditional self defense would apply in this case.

    There may be grounds of Prosecutoral misconduct in play now, because from what I understand the prosecutor may have deliberately excluded those photos.

  • Scope

    what you would see as possible PC arguments, not based on what they could “allege” but what shows anything in that document that directs anyone to evidence that is fact based to prove criminal intent, whether it is 2nd degree murder, or even manslaughter. Do you have any evidence at all that shows that Zimmerman in fact lied when he said that he turned away and was walking back to his vehicle? Do you see any evidence that leads you to believe that Zimmerman was in fact the aggressor?

    I’m just asking because you seem to believe that the PCA did in fact meet the standards for a judge to find PC in the document, and was willing to issue an arrest warrant based on that info.

  • Scope

    So you believe that a citizen, who is innocent until they are proven guilty, should just be picked up and put in jail, because he was guilty of shooting someone, and no self defense should ever be considered by any police or investigators. You are aware that the original police and investigators, as well as the sitting prosecutor believed that there in fact was a case for self defense was at least a plausible argument in Zimmerman’s favor, right. Even the original investigator, Chris Serino, who everyone is falsely stating wanted to arrest him that night, did in fact ome back after the many interrogations of Zimmerman, said that Zimmerman’s accounting was adding up with witness reports etc. You do know that right?

    When we, in this country, can just pick people up, and put them in jail, for shady or no reasons, we are in deep deep trouble. NO?

  • Scope

    except for the fact that it has become more and more obvious that the prosecutors had no interest in seeking equal justice both for the victim and the defendant. The states case, as was more than obvious yesterday in the bond hearing, never gave the first look at the defendants case. The scale of justice according to the FLA. prosecutors, were weighed heavily on the side of the victim. They never even talked to those that were on the other side. That was never a thought in their mind.

    Anyone can be on any side in this case, however, both sides had their rights to justice. Ignoring the evidence for the “other” side made this a very unequal, unfair, and a one sided justice system. Isn’t there something wrong with a prosecutor that never even talks to the defendant, his family, his witnesses, or anyone else on his side of the incident. That is why I am so outraged at the debacle that has been this case.

  • garfieldjl

    The prosecutor can actually face criminal charges if what I read is true. It’s similar to committing perjury.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    ntease

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    There two schools of thought on that, but even the school that argues that they should not file charges would not leave a prosecutor subject to even ethical violations, much less criminal charges. Early in any case one can;’ be sure they can ultimately win the case, hence the lower probable cause threshold.

    But I would fall in the school of thought that says that in homicides like this one, that it certainly is proper to file the charges for some lesser offense at least given an unarmed victim and a shooter that at some level caused the confrontation to occur. But it is obvious now to see why no charges were filed for so long.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    like they suggest and especially that they need to lay out exculpatory evidence. That has not been my experience in criminal matters in SC, NC and Georgia. The charging documents are usually quite brief and general.

  • demsaresatanic

    of the doubt given your training and experience. As I see it, if all it takes is this;

    ?Zimmerman admits Trayvon was unarmed, that no third party witnessed the initial encounter between he and Trayvon, that he shot Trayvon and that Trayvon is dead. Those facts establish probable cause to arrest for homicide,?

    then the stand your ground law sounds worthless.You stand your ground until your head gets bashed in and you also have injuries consistent with self defense, then you shoot, and can still get charged with criminal homicide under your example. What the blank does that stand your ground law mean?

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    from my comment. I agree with Mike on his low threshold argument, and I did say “perhaps” the police should have taken Zimmerman into custody. My main point was that it wouldn’t have made any difference because the libs and media would have played the race card anyway.

    I despise what the media and Sharpton, et al., have done to Zimmerman and his family and the way this entire thing has played out. I don’t buy the portrayal of Martin as the wonderful young man planning to go to college accompanied by the photo of him to drum up sympathy. Or that of Zimmerman as a racist out for blood. Based on what I’ve read, I hope the judge throws the case out. I believe there’s a much clearer case against the Black Panthers and Spike Lee for their actions, and that they should be arrested. I think there are only 2 people who actually know what happened and one is dead.

    Regardless, isn’t everyone who is arrested innocent until proven guilty? An arrest doesn’t doesn’t determine guilt or innocence.

    However, as a person who values life, I think the death of a person under circumstances that are not as clear as one which has, say an eye witness, warrants a full and thorough investigation. Maybe even one which takes more than a few hours. And even for a dead man who may very well have been up to no good.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Ground law, it really is only a minor expansion of self defense under Common Law, the latter of which has been mischaracterized by many in terms of its supposed broad “duty” to retreat. The term duty in this context is not a good term that has developed in the law because what the law really eschews are people that SEEK a confrontation. Common law self defense allows for standing your ground quite reasonably in my opinion.

    But what this case really demonstrates is that if a person is going to carry a gun, essentially look for trouble beyond merely watching, and ends up killing an unarmed person, they will have to account and ought to. I think the odds are that the state can’t prove even most if not all of the lesser included offenses below Murder 2nd, but he ought to have to account, imho. There is a dead body that would not be dead but for the actions of Zimmerman. Now, it may well have been Trayvon that provoked the immediate confrontation, and that Zimmerman was justified in the use deadly force and the State must prove Zimmerman guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to take away his liberty. But there is probable cause to arrest and charge, again, imho.

    But the laws of self defense are not “useless” merely because someone can be charged despite their arguments. They can be acquitted based upon self defense.

    God bless

  • hls87

    There’s no excuse for a prosecution and no prospect of a legitimate conviction where the defendant can make out a prima facie case for self-defense and the prosecution cannot refute that case beyond reasonable doubt.

    Zimmerman can clearly make out a prima facie case for self defense (with or without a Stand Your Ground law). Unless the prosecution is sitting on dramatic evidence that hasn’t leaked into the public realm (which at this point would be a serious breach of ethics) there is no way to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is lying about the events that led to Martin’s death. Since proof that Zimmerman is lying would be the essential prerequisite of any prosecution, even for involuntary manslaughter, a successful prosecution is impossible, absent a perversion of justice. There is no way Zimmerman should be in court on any charge.

    Your idea that some prosecution is warranted whenever one person shoots another is nonsense. The problem here isn’t that the prosecutor overcharged. The problem is that the prosecutor has no case on any charge and she only indicted in response to political pressure. This is deeply disturbing. The abuse of criminal justice for political purposes is a key attribute of every totalitarian state. It is getting disturbingly common right here in River City (DeLay, Libby). The left is up to no good here an you shouldn’t be suggesting that there is any trace of legitimacy in its actions.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Never have had any of my four Murder One defendants convicted of that charge, got one off on self defense and kept one out of the electric chair.

    I have discussed all you mention in detail in comments to this column and elsewhere and a resort to my profile page and review of same answers all your questions and issues ad nauseum. Not gonna be Oliver Northed and answer the same question over and over.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    smile

    Defendants make out cases for self defense in jury trials! Prosecutors don’t do it for them before indictments.

  • hls87

    I’ve looked at all your relevant postings and you don’t have the foggiest notion what you’re talking about. It is unethical for a prosecutor to seek an indictment knowing that there is insufficient evidence to meet the state’s burden of proof. Given that Zimmerman can clearly make out a prima facie case for self defense with his own testimony and that of other witnesses butressed by physical evidence, the prosecution’s burden is to show, beyond reasonable doubt that Zimmerman was not acting in self defense. That’s how proof of affirmative defenses in a criminal case works, as you should know. In this case there is no realistic prospect that the prosecution could bear its burden and therefore no legitimate reason to be hauling Zimmerman into court.

  • hls87

    They don’t (or at least shouldn’t) when no reasonable juror could conclude beyond reasonable doubt that anyone is guilty of a crime. That’s the situation we’re in here and you really ought to understand that.

  • Scope

    the fact that GZ has the right to an Immunity hearing? I have no doubt that GZ atty. O’Mara will request that hearing. It is up to a judge to decide if he will hold that hearing, and if the hearing goes forward O’Mara can bring forward evidence of self-defense, witnesses, records etc. If the judge rules that GZ in fact did act in self-defense, he is exonerated of the charges. The prosecution can appeal the decision, and if GZ wins again on appeal , he is a free man. What part of the SYG laws provides is that GZ is free from criminal and/or civil prosecution. That means that the Martin parents can never file wrongful death charges against him, and totally bankrupt the guy for the rest of his life. If the case goes to trial, even if GZ is found innocent of all charges, the Martin parents can bring a wrongful death lawsuit against him. GZ is already indigent, so how does he come up with additional legal fees for that lawsuit? Sybrina Fulton said many times that she just wanted an arrest. Immediately after the Corey presser she came before the cameras and said Thank you God, thank you Jesus, all we wanted was an arrest, nothing more, nothing less. Why would the mother only want an arrest and not a conviction of her sons killer? Crump answered that when he said that the arrest was only the first hurdle, they still had the Immunity hearing hurdle to get over. No Immunity hearing, and no SYG exoneration, and the Martin’s have hit the jackpot, or the lottery. Who is Benjamin Crump, a personal injury lawyer who will also benefit from a wrongful death lawsuit. You can’t get blood out of a stone, GZ is indigent. Who else will they sue?

    You’ve heard the talk about involving the feds. They sent in the FBI to investigate. They want to have hate crime charges brought against GZ. Hate crimes are federal charges. Why do you think O’Mara had GZ’s mother talk on Friday about how GZ mentored 2 black children. He stuck up for a black homeless man who was beaten in Sanford. Thankfully she didn’t mention that the beater was the son of a local law enforcement officer. Why do you think O’Mara stayed on the “profiling” language in the PCA?

    From the Friday bond hearing, all the attention has been focused on GZ’s apology. That actually wasn’t the big news of the hearing. The bigger, and more important news should be focused on the fact that O’Mara got one of the top guys, the lead investigator on the state side, to admit under oath that to date, they do not have any evidence to disprove Zimmerman’s claim that he turned away and was walking back to his vehicle when he was attacked by Trayvon from behind. The media has done a number on convincing everyone that GZ was the aggressor. O’Mara also got Gilbreth to admit, again under oath, that he has no evidence, records, witnesses or anything to date to prove who threw the first punch. O’Mara didn’t only poke holes in the prosecutors case, he blew a crater in their case. That was the start, mostly for the judges purposes I’m sure, to begin to build the case for self-defense, and an Immunity hearing.

    The prosecution’s case has incredibly seemed to mirror the media lynching, which was orchestrated by the Martin family atty. Benjamin Crump. Early on he started calling GZ a loose cannon, self proclaimed neighborhood watchman, who was a wannabe cop. The fact is that there are other neighborhood watch people for that community, and he was “appointed” the watch captain. Sybrina Fulton works as a project director for the Miami-Dadfe Housing Agency, and right on their website they have a whole section where they ask the members of the community to get involved in their neighborhoods to help watch for “suspicious activity” and to report it. GZ had the right to be there, and to report a suspicious person just walking about looking at the houses. That was the first time Martin had been to Sanford, and was unknown to GZ. GZ has been portrayed as some stalker who “profiled” an innocent teenager doing nothing more than walking while black, with nothing more than a can of tea and some skittles. It was dark, GZ told the dispatcher that he had something in his hands. How did GZ know if he wasn’t holding a gun or some sort of weapon?

    The prosecutors case seems to be heavily weighted on the telephone call Martin was having with his so-called girlfriend at the time of the incident. She was a past girlfriend, and she currently had another boyfriend who she prolifically tweeted about. The boyfriend tweeted that they were coming up with names for their children. DeeDee is 15-16. Crump gave the media Trayvon’s phone records. Trayvon’s phone was one of 4 phones on Tracy’s account. He only released the phone calls from 2/26, the day of the incident. There was in fact a phone call to Taryvon at 7:04 PM, and another one at 7:12 PM. They forgot to remove the statement right on the bill that says that all times listed were Pacific time (not Eastern time). Those phone calls were supposed to have been made hours after Trayvon was already dead.

  • hls87

    You seem confused about Florida procedure. This case should clearly be disposed of before a jury is ever empanelled.

    In Florida’s fifth circuit Zimmerman will be entitled to an evidenciary hearing to determine whether he is “immune from prosecution” because he acted in self defense. If he can show that he did by a preponderance of the evidence he’ll be entitled to dismissal of all charges. Since there is substantial evidence that Zimmerman acted in self defense and no evidence at all that he didn’t, the case shouldn’t get past the immunity hearing. The evidence isn’t just preponderant in favor of dismissal. It’s uncontradicted. There is no evidenciary question for the court to consider. As Scope points out below, the prosecution admitted during the bail hearing that it has no evidence to offer tending to defeat Zimmerman’s claim of immunity.

    There was no basis for an indictment in this case. There is no justification for a trial. Unless the judge is corrupt or idiotic there will never be one. By suggesting that there is any legtitimate question in this case you are giving aid and comfort to the (leftist) enemy and you should be ashamed.

  • westcoastpatriette

    as — even though I am not an attorney — that is exactly how I see it.

    Zimmerman should be immune from prosecution for the reasons you stated under the SYG law.

  • Scope

    “Cognitive Codependency: When a seemingly rational person, dismisses available facts, internalizes irrational illogical presentations from the media, thereby reconciling the absurd to fit their informational understanding. This is caused by a historical script of general acceptance of media narratives, caused by media created indoctrination of analysis. A willful and willing acceptance of irrational normalcy.” Coined by sundancecracker at The Last Refuge.

    When anyone, especially from the legal profession, promotes the policy of let’s put the person on trial, at great expense to defendant, lack of free movement by a defendant, and the meme of let him prove his innocence at trial, this country has gone to the dogs. Probably every state in this union have self-defense laws. About 11 states have SYG laws, which bars criminal and civil action from anyone who was truly defending their life from death or great bodily harm.

    You are showing your defense lawyer panties here with saying, over and over, let’s just take this Zimmerman guy to trial, and let’s see what he’s got. Thank you God for the upstanding Mark O’Mara’s in this country, who is working for little to no money, but understands the travesties that have been waged against his client. The media has now successfully made him into the most hated male in this country today. But hey, let’s make sure he goes to trial, right GC, the great defender of equal justice under the law.

  • demsaresatanic

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law#Florida

    and then tell me, if you can, why 776.032 (1) does not apply to prevent
    “arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant,” (Zimmerman) despite your claim that,

    ?Zimmerman admits Trayvon was unarmed, that no third party witnessed the initial encounter between he and Trayvon, that he shot Trayvon and that Trayvon is dead. Those facts establish probable cause to arrest for homicide,? As I see it nothing there removes the case from the immunity granted by that statute given Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense after being attacked and beaten.

    I understand that you are tired about talking on this subject however it is a matter of much concern to me and many others here.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    And now, Oliver North has left the building and his potted plant lawyer is literally off this morning to a prelim on an assault and battery case in which we will argue no probable cause ! Smile

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Your kind is exhibit A for how the level of discourse at red state has degraded over the past two years.

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