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Romneycare as states rights debating point

Remember those conservatives during the Republican presidential primaries that thought Romneycare would prevent Mitt from being able to take on Obamacare? I do. I was one of them. We were wrong.

Rarely have we had a true back and forth debate between presidential candidates of opposing parties like we did last night. Thanks to Mitt Romney’s initiative and Jim Lehrer’s wisdom to let it flow, and to Hades with the format, rather than 30-120 second soundbites, we were treated to a true back and forth defense of liberalism and conservatism. I didn’t think President Barack Obama performed as badly as many. I just think conservatism trounced liberalism and Obama’s dismal record.

Yes, Mitt Romney took some issues off the table like education and pre-existing conditions health coverage, although he did indicate he would relegate more of the former to states. Yes, he waxed eloquent about reaching out to Democrats, but in retrospect, it looks like an ingenious strategy for victory and was more than made up for by his frequent and eloquent advocacy of free markets as the more moral choice:

 “Well, first, I love great schools. Massachusetts, our schools are ranked number one of all 50 states. And the key to great schools: great teachers. So I reject the idea that I don’t believe in great teachers or more teachers. Every school district, every state should make that decision on their own. The role of government — look behind us: the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. The role of government is to promote and protect the principles of those documents. First, life and liberty. We have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means the military, second to none. I do not believe in cutting our military. I believe in maintaining the strength of America’s military. Second, in that line that says, we are endowed by our Creator with our rights — I believe we must maintain our commitment to religious tolerance and freedom in this country. That statement also says that we are endowed by our Creator with the right to pursue happiness as we choose. I interpret that as, one, making sure that those people who are less fortunate and can’t care for themselves are cared by — by one another. We’re a nation that believes that we’re all children of the same God. And we care for those that have difficulties — those that are elderly and have problems and challenges, those that disabled, we care for them. And we look for discovery and innovation, all these things desired out of the American heart to provide the pursuit of happiness for our citizens. But we also believe in maintaining for individuals the right to pursue their dreams, and not to have the government substitute itself for the rights of free individuals. And what we’re seeing right now is, in my view, a trickle-down government approach which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams. And it’s not working. And the proof of that is 23 million people out of work. The proof of that is one out of six people in poverty. The proof of that is we’ve gone from 32 million on food stamps to 47 million on food stamps. The proof of that is that 50 percent of college graduates this year can’t find work. The path we’re taking is not working. It is time for a new path.”

But by far what tickled this conservative’s ears the most were Romney’s numerous references to how Obamacare cut over $700B from Medicare. Finally, a rebuttal to the old Democrat bromide that the GOP wants to hurl grandma over the cliff. This time, Democrats are scrambling to climb out of the ravine into which they fell from the cliff of lies they had built for the last 45 years. At least under the former Governor of Massachusetts’ plans, bad plans are relegated to only wrecking one state or none, and not the remainder of the Fruited Plain.

The Party of Lincoln, for the first time since Ronald Reagan, has an articulate advocate for conservatism running against a liberal Democrat with a failed record. There is now true hope for change I can believe in.

Mike DeVine

“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

Editor - Hillbilly Politics

Co-Founder and Editor - Political Daily

Atlanta Law & Politics columnist –  Examiner.com

COMMENTS

  • mrmacphisto

    I’ve thought for awhile that Romneycare is a strength, not a weakness. I’m not a fan of the plan itself, but it was done in a states’ rights manner. Romney has never advocated for a Federal variant, but instead has preached in the past that the states are “incumbators of democracy”, that states could look to Massachusetts and see what they thought was good and what was bad, what would work in their state and what would not.

    That is a strong argument because it gives us competition inside the system. A state that mishandles things will lose employers and people as they migrate to a state that does the job better. When the Feds do it, we have no where to run. A true federal system keeps state power in check too because people can always leave for greener pastures.

    I thought some of Romney’s most eloquent moments came towards the end as he spoke of our Founding Documents with very earnest devotion and respect. I have no doubt that he regards them far more highly than Obama – and maybe moreso than anyone since Reagan to run.

    Hammering on an out of touch bureaucracy is a winner. People want more localized control in government, not more centralization. I’d like to see Mitt hit this very clearly, asking people if they think those in DC are best able to make decisions for Ohio, Colorado, Florida, etc or if it’s better to distribute power by lessening the power in Washington.

    That’s also a winner when it comes to money in politics. Who is more easily lobbied, the 537 elected officials in DC or the over 7,000 elected state officials spread across 50 different states? If those states also give up power and give more to counties and cities it becomes even more difficult to lobby. Centralized power is the reason so much money is in politics. Obamacare will not change that. But a state centric approach that empowers consumers will.

  • barleycorn

    Yes there is a lot of crow to go around among us Romney-doubters. The good thing is that served with the right mix of spices crow can be quite tasty!

  • http://www.bohnetlaw.com rightappeal

    I agree that Mitt did very well in discussing healthcare last night, but I still think that nominating him cost us much of our edge on the issue. If the nominee had been Daniels/Pawlenty/Perry/Gingrich/Santorum/whoever, they’d be railing hard against the individual mandate and government domination of healthcare. They’d be warning that Obamacare will explode costs while reducing choices and quality of care. And they’d be using the Massachusetts experience as a warning rather than as a model. They’d be painting Obamacare as an unconscionable disaster whose repeal was critical for the country’s future. I think the whole national political landscape would look much better if that was the focus of the Presidential campaign.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Agreed, but I think we will really like the way the political landscape looks the day after Election Day.

  • mrmacphisto

    I’m not too sure. The problem is that others don’t have a record of actually doing something about it, but only talking about it. Romney has credibility in the middle because he did work across the aisle and did do something. Truth is, what Mass has now is not what he envisioned either. And there is truth that the idea was a conservative one. Romneycare was helped along by Heritage.

    Romney has credibility here because he’s done something. Same thing with the bipartisan talk – he has credibility just like Reagan did. Both had to work across the aisle to get things done.

    Romney has never championed a Federal system and has always favored state solutions. He has also acted to create a state based solution that we may not like, but he did it. And I think it does reflect what Massachusetts wants.

    People want solutions. They want a leader to rise above the fray and do more than just lampoon the opponent. Romney’s record here helps him. He looked like the one who could bring two sides together last night. He argued very well for states rights and limited government to protect liberty.

    I’m not sure that anyone else in the GOP has the credibility to say that they’d do something. And it’s not about reaching the base, but reaching those independents that will decide the election. They will vote for conservative values, but they want someone who will act and not just talk. We have that. If it had been Newt/Santorum/Whoever, they may not have had the same kind of leadership cred.

    Perry governors a deep red state. Pawlenty would have more cache here, but I’m not sure he’d have the presentation. Gingrich and Santorum are legislators. I’m also not sure how commanding Daniels would appear.

    But Romney got things done in a deep blue state. He was able to inch them slightly to his side – ever so slightly.

  • fightnright

    good post; I also wonder if any of Romney’s points from his USA Today editorial in 2009 might be useful toward reaching some centrist voters:

    ‘…And the president is rushing changes that dwarf what any business I know has faced.

    Republicans are not the party of “no” when it comes to health care reform. This Republican is proud to be the first governor to insure all his state’s citizens. Other Republicans such as Rep. Paul Ryan and Sens. Bob Bennett and John McCain, among others, have proposed their own plans. **Republicans will join with the Democrats if the president abandons his government insurance plan, if he endeavors to craft a plan that does not burden the nation with greater debt, if he broadens his scope to reduce health costs for all Americans, and if he is willing to devote the rigorous effort, requisite time and bipartisan process that health care reform deserves.’**

    **my emphasis

    http://mittromneycentral.com/op-eds/2009-op-eds/mr-president-whats-the-rush/

  • westcoastpatriette

    One thing that Romney has in his favor — and I hope he does not take advantage of it if he wins the White House — is that Obama is such an unmitigated disaster and extremely repugnant traitor to us conservatives that, by contrast, Romney’s moderate leanings seem like minor flaws.

    On the other hand, maybe Romney will find himself less inclined to lean moderate when being shaped and influenced by a more conservative House and Senate — should we succeed in winning both chambers. Interesting times ahead, for sure.

  • TravisMonitor

    All true conservatives need to rewatch this debate. Yes, Romney hedged in places, in non-meaningful ways (batting down the strawman that Republicans are for ‘no regulations’ for example), but highlighting what is correct about conservative principles in other ways.

    “The Party of Lincoln, for the first time since Ronald Reagan, has an
    articulate advocate for conservatism running against a liberal Democrat
    with a failed record.”

    Correct, so we have hope than 2012 will be the change election just like 1980 was.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    …and 2010. thx Travis

  • mrmacphisto

    I think as a nation we have been so blessed to have the right leaders come forward in our hour of need.

    It happened at the Founding in spades, from George Washington refusing to hold onto power (twice), to the brilliance of Jefferson laying forth our Declaration, and onto Hamilton, Jay, and Madison as they framed the Constitution and argued for it in their Federalist Papers.

    It happened when the horrible blight from our founding, slavery, had finally torn us asunder and Abraham Lincoln stepped forth.

    Despite how terrible he did as President during the Depression, FDR was a strong leader during WWII who had enough conviction to move forward with the Lend-Lease program to keep Britain afloat until America could join the fight against darkness.

    It happened once more in 1980 as the nation stagnated and belief in itself teetered when Reagan inspired us and led us. I was a kid then, but he always struck me as my third grandfather. That day in January of 1986 when I was 7 and the Challenger went up in flames in front of our eyes on the TV as all of us were watching Christie McAuliffe be the first teacher in space is one I will never forget. I had no idea what it meant and how to respond, but President Reagan comforted me and gave me hope in the midst of tragedy.

    And, yes, it happened when George W. Bush stood in the rubble of the WTC and lifted the nation up. I can never see Gore being able or willing to do what W did. There are a lot of things he did I disagree with one the domestic side of things, but he had the courage of his convictions.

    But there was still a debt and deficit. There was still future insolvency. There were many challenges.

    In 2007, I read Hugh Hewitt’s A Mormon In The White House? and was astonished at how incredible Romney seemed. He was too good to be true. He had moral conviction, he was willing to work with others, and he had a history of finding solutions.

    I realize now that 2008 was too early for Romney, but that conviction still stands. I believe that Romney is the man for these times. His career has prepared him for the heavy lifting he will have to do. And we saw last night that he is a leader. From reading about him, I also know he is a delegator who is more interested in getting a job done right than getting credit. That sounds an awful lot like Reagan.

    Like Reagan, I think he can sell his vision across the aisle. Reagan accomplished much with a Democratic Congress (mostly). Romney won’t have the same constraints, but I think he can make our tone much more civil. The media won’t report it, but so much comes from the far left anger at Bush that they could never get over (really dating back to the 2000 election that they still insist was stolen) and Obama brought that baggage with him. He caused it to be worse.

    Romney may be the best qualified person to ever seek the office. He didn’t get that way by doing easy things. Remember, his career was built on going into bleak territory, finding the light, and amplifying it.

    It is my hope that in 20 years we will look back and speak Romney’s name alongside Reagan’s as we, our children, and our grandchildren enjoy a renewed America built on rock solid conservative principles of limited government and personal responsibility. It takes a person of courage to lead us there because going up against the Chicago machine is no easy task. I’m not sure that anyone but Romney could do it right now. He is the right man at the right time.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    ‘phisto, GC thinks you nailed the top leaders Providence bequeathed the United States when we most needed them, as Old Hickory said, one man with courage t[o] make a majority.

  • jamesm

    Hi-Yah!
    “Remember those conservatives during the Republican presidential primaries that thought Romneycare would prevent Mitt from being able to take on Obamacare? I do. I was one of them. We were wrong.”
    Yep. I thought the issue was off the table. Brilliant act of political jujitsu or should I say karate?
    One Star

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