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Word of advice for Romney Supporters

By: garfieldjl (Diary)  |  April 12th, 2012 at 08:25 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

Stop attacking Conservatives and fellow Republicans.  I don’t want to see Obama win in the General election, however he probably will win if you guys don’t start building a case for your candidate and instead continue to pick fights with Social Conservatives.  You’re going to cost Romney the election (assuming he is the nominee).

No, the problem Romney faces is that his campaign and his supporters have run such a foul campaign.

Think of all the negative things said against other candidates by Romney and his supporters.  Did they give a damn how their words would be played back against Newt or Santorum if either of them were the nominee?

Did the editors of National Review worry in December about the Marvin the Martian cover being used against Newt?  Did the Romney campaign worry how its attempt to portray Newt as crazy would be used against Newt?

And how did Romney get to this point that he is the presumptive nominee?

By going massively negative on everyone else and using his campaign wealth to smother others.  His carpet bombing of Newt in Iowa and Florida is the only thing that kept Romney from the abyss.  I still see non-stop anti-Santorum ads on TV.

Romney has embittered a large segment of the people he will need to rally around him.  Profound and historic dislike of Obama is the only thing that will prevent a third party movement or a massive stay-at-home movement.

And it hasn’t stopped.  Romney supporters have shown themselves to be sore winners, and there’s nothing worse than sore winners heading into a general election.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/04/if-romney-loses-to-obama-it-will-be-because-of-his-supporters-not-his-opponents/

Look I don’t like Romney, but I don’t want Obama to get 4 more years.  As far as I’m concerned the primary isn’t over (my state has yet to vote), however we have to be able to unite at the convention, and picking fights with Social Conservatives and trying to bully them, isn’t going to help Romney (assuming he is the nominee) win in November.  In fact, you’re hurting your own candidate’s chances if he becomes the nominee.

I quoted that article above to point out the issue is real, whether or not you choose to take note of it, is entirely up to you.

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  • Finrod

    Just look at some of the responses I got to my diary earlier today. It wasn’t until the fourth Romney supporter showed up that I got an actual response instead of Romneybot talking points that proved that they didn’t even read what I wrote.

  • xymbaline

    Something strange is going on with this campaign. Romney only has slightly more than 1/2 the delegates and hasn’t gathered much over 40% of the votes. 60 – 70% of the Republicans have consistently chosen someone other than Romney.

    Nothing is over. The Convention isn’t until August, around 4 months away.

    Remember your Shakespeare …

    “There’s many a slip twixt cup and the lip”.

    • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

      with a strategy and delegate counts that demonstrates how Romney does not get to 1144. Also, where does Newt get the $$ to compete?

  • samcoastie

    Stop attacking Conservatives and fellow Republicans.

    Yes, some of Romney’s ( or his PACs) attacks were unfounded and uncalled for. I think the idea that Newt wasn’t part of the Reagon revolution was a stupid line of attack for Mitt and ended up hurting him more than Newt. The same thing happened in reverse with Newt’s vulture capitalist attack. I believe it was backlash from that coupled with the Fannie/Freddie link and bad timing for two subpar Florida debates that sunk Newt, not the carpet bombing. For me it doesn’t really matter.

    I don’t have any problem with those who say the fight isn’t over. Those who say they will not vote for Mitt if he is the nominee or that there isn’t a single reason to vote for Mitt over Obama are the ones that have opened themselves up for ridicule. You have at least implied that you will eventually vote for the nominee, even if you don’t like him.

    That’s all anyone is asking for. I respect your desire to continue to support your candidate.

    • garfieldjl

      The Bain Capital stuff is a valid cause of concern, I did a quick google search a while back and found that the Democrats already have compiled a bunch of videos with sob stories about how Bain Capital ruined the company a person worked for, forcing it go bankrupt (which cost people their jobs), while Bain walked off with millions. It wouldn’t surprise me if they will soon have sob stories where their parent committed suicide, blah blah blah, I think you get the idea.

      That’s a legitimate concern, and you can do the google searches yourself if you don’t believe me.

      Another point I’ll make sam, is that it isn’t just some conservatives that have the view that Obama and Romney aren’t all that different. It is independents, his style of campaign has caused a lot of damage to our chances to win in the general if he is the nominee.

      That is my honest assessment of the situation. Romney supporters need to be able to construct a case as to why Romney would make a good President, not start bashing Conservatives whom currently are not getting behind Romney. If Romney supporters want the situation to change, they need to be able to construct a good case to support Romney. Not one that someone can deconstruct in under 5 minutes.

      Romney and his supporters inflicted the damage to themselves, they need to work to repair the damage and mend fences.

      • Viet71

        Sure he’s not pleasing to many conservatives; far from it.

        You know the alternative, Obama. I don’t particularly like Romney, but I trust him a whole hell of a lot more than I trust Obama. Obama’s a con man, Romney’s not. Romney’s smarter, better educated, better prepared by experience. He’s trying to get elected. He tried to make tons of money at Bain Capital. He’s all about success and succeeding. And he’s not a bad person.

        I say, bury the hatchet and close ranks.

        • gekster

          Tribbles gotta tribble.
          And the only thing he’s got is bashing Romney, in the vane hope his candidate, I think he hinted Gingrich once, who he never trys to build up, will get the nod.

          You are talking to one of those stone heads at Easter Island.

        • garfieldjl

          I’m voting Newt when my state is up.

          Viet71, we all know any Republican in this race at this point is better than Obama.

          I think a Drunken Jimmy Carter is better than Obama.

          That said, I base my decision on who I think would be a good President. I don’t believe Romney will be a good President, the problem here is that we can’t survive with even a Mediocre President due to the damage Obama has caused. We need to pick whom we think is the best person for the job, not vote over “electability.”

          To make matters worse, from what I’ve seen Romney is in serious trouble in the General Election. Part of being able to play chess and be good at the game (heck mediocre even), is to be able to anticipate your opponent’s moves and keep the opponent on the defensive.

          While the attack on Ann Romney was incredibly stupid on the Democrat’s part, their objective was to go after Romney because he is wealthy.

          I look at the general election and I’m scared to death because I’ve seen some rather glaring holes that Obama can exploit, and if I’ve seen them, it is reasonable to suggest that Axelrod saw them before I did.

          I was looking forward to November 2012, where we could kick the radical-in-chief out of office. Heck, I was looking forward to having party election night and the news that Obama was beaten.

          While I’m not the greatest at getting my points across, nor the best at persuading people, I often do know what I’m talking about. I’ve been focusing on politics since 07-08, because I was concerned about the election and the possibility of Obama (whom was a radical) getting elected. I’ve been telling people that voted Obama in 08 that I told them so, and some have admitted to me that I was right.

          Viet71, I really wish I’m wrong about Romney, I really do. However, I haven’t seen anything that suggests otherwise. I don’t think that it is likely for him to beat Obama, and if he does, I think it is unlikely that he will even try to reverse course. Maybe in coming days, his VP pick and other actions he takes may convince me otherwise, but right now I’m going to state it rather bluntly I don’t believe a word Romney says because he continues to defend Romneycare.

          All Romney has to do is say that the intent of Romneycare was to make sure that people would get healthcare, it was a noble goal; however the monstrosity known as Obamacare demonstrated that Romneycare was a bad idea, because Obama and Democrats showed that government couldn’t be trusted with that kind of power, and why Romneycare should be repealed. He would be able to walk away then and make Obama look bad. Obama couldn’t run around claiming that the two were similar, because Romney could start implying the intent was different.

          Why hasn’t he renounced Romneycare, it’s really simple and easy to do in a way that doesn’t hurt Romney and takes a swipe at Obama, Pelosi, and Reid?

          • Flagstaff

            I really wish I

          • avgjo

            I’ve read a lot of your posts.

            I was/am an ardent Newt supporter.

            I don’t trust Romney any further than I can throw him.. I haven’t forgotten his mid-debate (1994 vs. Ted Kennedy) switch of positions on abortion. More recently, I haven’t forgotten his ‘I’m running for office for gosh’s sakes’ comment about the illegals he had working for him.

            He will keep the seat warm for the next communist (demiocrat) president. I don’t expect him to make much of an effort to undo the damage Obama did. Rush’s crap the other day about his talk with Romney reminded me of Bush telling us he looked into Putin’s eyes and saw a good man or whatever. Suckers, both of them.. (I admit that in the sense it’s possible that Newt could get the nomination, Romney could have had a change of heart. Possible, but in the real world, highly, highly unlikely.)

            I could sit here and talk about how we arrived at this disheartening point because of a failed GOP leadership, a failed conservative media and a failed TEA party and moronic conservative voters, and I’d be right on most of it.

            Here’s the thing. None of that will be productive right now. If Romney loses, and there’s a very good chance of that, we’ll have plenty of time for a post-mortem., The only substantial reason I can see to vote for Romney is that the damage he does will be slower than that Obama will do in a 2nd term, and that might buy people like me and you time to figure something out. And because I feel obligated to God to occupy my inheritance, and I feel a duty to my family and country, I’m going to do everything i can to get people out to vote for Romney because of the (last?) chance it might provide to straighten America out.

            These efforts include not saying anything more negative about Romney after this post during the election season. The pollyanna Romney supporters, the disingenuous pundits (EE and a few others excluded – they have called Romney what he is since the beginning) and Romney himself make it awful tempting to take potshots. But this is where not living by emotion and self-discipline is called for. These qualities are needed to save the country.

            I hope you’ll take these things into consideration. I know that in the realm of absolute possibilities, Newt could get the nomination. I also know that barring some miracle worthy of the Old Testament, that won’t happen. So we have to be real. Please at least consider what you will do if/when Romney gets the nomination, and think of duty to God (if you believe in Him), your famiily and country in so doing.

            .

      • Flagstaff

        The Bain Capital stuff is a valid cause of concern, I did a quick google search a while back and found that the Democrats already have compiled a bunch of videos with sob stories about how Bain Capital ruined the company a person worked for, forcing it go bankrupt (which cost people their jobs), while Bain walked off with millions.

        They’ve already been discredited as lies. Believe it or not, Obama will stoop to lying.

        Now consider that the Won can lie about anything, and you see that we have a problem, but it isn’t with the candidate.

        • Flagstaff

          didn’t work. First paragraph was a quote from your comment.

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  • checkmate2012

    your plea to withhold from insults for legitimate arguments against Romney is honorable. But it is exhausting to some, sorry should have said me, that no matter what case we make for a Romney win, it’s not valid to you as you seem to be stuck in Newt gear and turn a deaf ear, even given that most here didn’t want Mitt, including me as a former Newt supporter.

    Like I said, this should be easy given the history of this admin (did you read my diary from earlier today yet? (What the Rosen Fluke is going on?” but know it won’t be unless we point out the flaws of our opponent more than we dis our soon to be officially named nominee. I know the race isn’t over yet and I did read your math & it still didn’t convince me that Romny won’t be the nominee.

    Just curious, if Newt doesn’t win any more state primaries, will you concede that Romney is the defacto nominee before the Tampa convention or will you need to wait until after the convention is over?

  • garfieldjl

    Okay if Romney ends up getting the required number of hard delegates, then the primary is technically over and the decision as to who the nominee is will be before the convention (assuming Romney doesn’t drop out due to some scandel or other). As to whether or not I will throw 100% support to Romney before or even the convention past, that remains to be seen, because it is entirely dependent on Romney’s behavior.

    The stunts Romney pulled really ticked me off, and in all honesty I think it is a toss-up as to whether Romney was responsible for the hit job on Cain, or Obama was. It fits both Romney and Obama’s M.O.

    You are right that the Obama administration is probably one of the worst Presidencies this country has ever seen. He makes Nixon look like a Saint, and Carter look competitent. My issues with Romney date back a ways, all the way back to 2008, I didn’t like him then, and was actually glad McCain beat him. I didn’t usually agree with McCain, but McCain wasn’t nearly as slimy as Romney.

    To start with this election season, I didn’t care for Romney, still thought he was slimy, but any Republican would be better than Obama. After Romney pulled his stunts in Iowa, the cake incident in South Carolina mocking Gingrich over Pelosi’s witchhunt from nearly two decades ago, then his smear job in Florida. Then the shannigans in Virginia with the signitures, the shannigans with the Florida, Arizona, and Idaho delegates, etc. he actually sunk low as Obama in my book for a while.

    Obama only recently managed to sink even lower than Romney with his latest attempts to intimidate the Supreme Court, and his campaign site being set up to accept donations from Identity thieves when all the Republicans put in the safe guards.

    All I will say is I will vote Republican for President at this juncture, If Romney is the nominee, unless he starts repairing bridges and mending the proverbial fences, that’s all he’s going to get. I don’t trust the man, I think he just wants to be President for it’s own sake, and that worries me. However, I think Obama is even more power hungry than that.

    Romney genuinely does scare me, his record doesn’t match his rhetoric, and his defense of Romneycare, makes it rather obvious he has no intention to lift a finger to repeal Obamacare.

    Romney has shown he wants to win, all well and good, but being willing to taint yourself by cheating (or giving the appearence of cheating), how he acts entitled to the nomination and Presidency, is really scary. The fact he isn’t quite as bad as Obama, is in itself scary.

    So that’s all I can say on the subject.

  • gekster

    Can we expect you to answer the rest of those posed to you.
    (not holding my breath here)

  • lastgopinillinois

    in their State Primaries, it should be recognoized by everyone that the RedState mission statement says:
    We promote conservatives in the primaries and support the Republican nominee in the general elections.

    Okay, so, it IS still the primary. This is not the general election yet.
    Romney is NOT the nominee officially at this point.

    There are many who have not had their State primary elections yet. Let them vote for the conservative of their choice without name-calling (idiot, paid liberal troll, stonehead, or whatever) as I have seen repeatedly over many different diaries here. What happened to the 11th commandment?

  • garfieldjl

    n/t

  • gekster

    and only bashing Romney, without showing support for anyone else,
    you got the behaviour you deserved.

  • checkmate2012

    on your diary.

  • snowshooze

    McCain, Romney and the like..
    Or even closer, a straight up GOP establishment site.
    Romney has money, so it is good. The GOP will have to bear less burden.
    Therefore, the GOP can pee their money away on their feifdom.
    Instead of wasting it on a candidate.
    It don’t matter if we win or lose, so long as we are in control.

  • gekster

    it was still individual voters who caste thier votes for Romney, and who intend to cast thier votes for Romney.
    I don’t know how the establishment got into the voting booth to make anyone vote for who they voted for.
    Do I like it. No
    But a standing rule of this site is Consrvative in the Primary,
    Republican in the General.
    Didn’t vote for McCain or Romney in the Primary, as I myself saw someone else as more Conservative.
    I will get my nose plugs and vote for Romney in the general, because dispite what all of these recent Romney Bashers have to say about him, even He would be better than Obam.
    If you have a miricle or a favor owed to you by God, I beseech ye to use it now.
    Other than that, we go to war with the army and it’s leader we got.

    I don’t think anyone could be worse than Obama.

  • rightwingnut2

    …but, a couple months back, Romney supporters were banned here just for showing their faces. They tell me that all the time. I blog on a site dominated by Rombots. Now, he’s a conservative? I don’t disparage anyone for pledging to vote for him.. I may vote for him myself. I just don’t understand what the rush is to jump on his bandwagon. Make the guy earn your vote!

  • checkmate2012

    is in effect a vote for BO referring to your comment “As to whether or not I will throw 100% support to Romney before or even the convention past, that remains to be seen, because it is entirely dependent on Romney

  • snowshooze

    If it makes you feel better.

  • rightwingnut2

    …stack the deck in favor of the moderate.

  • checkmate2012

    from not rom.

  • checkmate2012

    Republican standing after Tampa. At that point, staying home will only keep BO in the White House and that would be the worse case scenario, far scarier than Romney.

  • gekster

    They were banned for going overly stupid.

    He is the presumptive nominee now. No one can show how he won’t be.

    We all hang together or…..

  • snowshooze

    Has nothing to do with Staff. values or anything else.
    Money. Cars. Offices. Staff, Buildings, Jobs for the kids.
    The REAL important stuff.

  • snowshooze

    nt