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Why I support Newt Gingrich

By: garfieldjl (Diary) | April 13th, 2012 at 05:56 PM |

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A Romney supporter asked me to post why I think Gingrich is the best candidate. So here it goes.

The reasons I support Gingrich are the following.

He gives big ideas, and proposes solutions to fix things, not kick the can down the road. I want things fixed, not popping up again 5 years later.
He knows Washington DC politics, he knows about how everything has been mismanaged, and like the bullet-point above he proposes solutions.
He is able to take the MSM to task and make them look like idiots on live TV.
I think he is fairly charismatic, which would help against Obama.
Unlike the ideologue in the White House, Gingrich comes up with tons of ideas, while this is incredibly annoying when things are going well for the country, it is critical for when we are in crisis. If idea A doesn’t work, Gingrich won’t keep trying to use A, he’ll switch to B, if that doesn’t work he’ll go to C.
His record as Speaker of the House, Contract with America, a Balanced Budget, etc.
The fact the establishment hates him, he may once have been an insider, but he’s clearly an outsider now.
He’s able to explain Conservatism a lot better than the other candidates.
He would be incredibly hard for Obama to attack, because Obama’s own baggage would get in the way.
Gingrich has a clear line of attack on Obama’s baggage.
I admire Gingrich’s determination and refusing to give up.

While we all know that Gingrich was supposedly disorganized, there is a problem with that argument folks. When we won in 94, the Republicans hadn’t had control of the House in decades. The outgoing Democrat leadership did not brief the Republicans, they basically left them with a disorganized mess. So I think Gingrich did an incredible job, considering they were having to try to do things from scratch.

The “Ethics Violations” were laughable, once people know that it was due to a typo and Gingrich teaching a college course, a lot of folks will look at it as a political hitjob. Especially after all the shannigans of insider trading, which people remember.

Fact of the matter is given Gingrich has been outside of Washington for over a decade, means that he can being tied to the current congress. He can claim that he had everything working when he left, how did you manage to screw up the country.

Ordinarily he wouldn’t be electable, however considering we’re facing someone that Jimmy Carter doesn’t want to be compared to, I think Newt is very electable.

I consider Newt to be our Winston Churchill, he is a troubleshooter, and a very good one at that, he is the kind of leader you want in a crisis situation, which is what we’re in.

I know about all the out of context remarks used to bash Gingrich, including the “moon base,” one. I know about his personal issues, I don’t think they are relevent though with the country being in the shape it is.

That’s why I support Newt Gingrich

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gekster

If you would keep this up you wouldn’t get so much grief.

JSobieski

So if we are playing a game of “what if . . .” I wouldn’t settle for Newt.

If we are talking about non-fictional reality, Newt’s odds are barely better than Sowell.

noprisoners49

So Romney’s your choice. That tells me you like big government, high taxes, and limited freedoms. Lotta sheeple in this country anymore!

xymbaline

It’s you that hasn’t been listening.
http://abo.dr-rjp.com DrRJP

Newt is Ronald Reagan; Mitt is Ronald McDonald. Romney made a mess of Mass., and people want him to run and ruin the country.

Sure, he’s better than Obama. So is a mop.

Newt is the only person who can save America…not just to oust Obama and slow the decay it……but to return America back to its roots.

He’s done it before. Took the House away from 40 year of Democrat domination. Balanced 4 budgets. Hekped create 26 million jobs. Created welfare reform with a Democratic President.

Newt can send this to a brokered convention. People don’t want Mitt

gekster

He has little support and no money.
Just what can he do.

snowshooze

Newt has that in him, a bit of an egomaniac.
But that is not unusual in leaders. Look at me.
Sometimes it takes that to call a shot, gamble everything you own and pull it off when everyone thinks you are nuts.
I have done it. But it cuts both ways.
Sometimes you lose. Sometimes you lose everything.
Newt probably thought he would be better received by virtue of name recognition… and his history.
Well, not these days. So where hethought he would start at an advantage, it has been uphill the whole way.
Honestly, as much as I would rather have him as opposed to Romney… it doesn’t look very promising.
But he has fire, and guts. Neither of which Romney has.
As well as savvy. Romney doesn’t even know what that is.
If anyone could flip the game at this late date…
It would be Newt.
Money is the biggest problem, Romney spends more at lunch than Newt can pull in all week.

WillWong

putting their money where their hearts are supposed to be. Look at Santorum…even with the endorsements of Evangelical leaders, he couldn’t get the money to compete. Same with Newt and Huckabee in 2008.

Maybe it is the economy too. I maxed out with GWB in 2004 but so far, I am quite limited in my political contribution, mostly because of budgetary considerations. Which is all the more reason to vote President Zero out in 2012!
demsaresatanic

garf had been doing a great job keeping hope alive, as you can see.
mswalnut

More below at the end.

lastgopinillinois

It was televised by C-Span and will probably be repeated a few times over the weekend. He talked about the usual stuff we all know and love and threw in a suggestion for the NRA to be more aggressively on the offensive.

After we lost Perry as a candidate, I jumped right into Newt’s camp with some skepticism. Over time, I have firmly come to believe that he would aggressively move to change Washington, if he were President.

Now, I fear, we are going to be forced to take the pill being forced down our throats by the establishment. It may be our only shot.

If he becomes the nominee, can he beat 0bama??? that is very debateable.

Flagstaff

The “establishment” isn’t forcing anybody to swallow anything. Republican voters have voted as they wanted to, and the results have favored Romney. Did the “establishment” lose its magical powers in Iowa, South Carolina, other states won by Santorum? I don’t think so.

ps. Anything is debatable.

beccaleigh

There are a lot of voters in Virginia that were not allowed to vote for who they supported. I’ve heard all of the arguments about campaigns not being organized and not meeting requirements, but that just isn’t the case here and a lot of Virginia voters know it. I can prove it all with RPV (Republican Party of Virginia) emails to back me up but that is not a case for me to be making in a comment. Mark Levin and Larry Sabato both reacted to this with outrage (Sabato must’ve gotten a memo from the establishment to keep a lid on it) but have you never wondered why it took Romney $25 million in all negative ads against Newt to win FL?

http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

So prove it. Write a diary, lay it out.

APA Guy
Viet71

beccaleigh is another of the Dem interlopers o n this site.
rankandfileconservative

So now those who support Gingrich are “Dem interlopers.” If Romney as the nominee is so inevitable, why does this contingent who are vocal in support of Gingrich even matter to you? I mean really, Romney needs a much smaller fraction of remaining delegates than anyone else.

Shouldn’t people who are closer to Reagan than Scott Brown in their views be able to go out and support/vote for Gingrich with a clear conscience? If conservatism really matters, shouldn’t we as conservatives try to maximize our bargaining power, rather than preening to go along with the guy who was admittedly anti-Reagan when he had the chance?

In all likelihood, Romney will be the nominee; however, that does not mean conservatives should fall in line like lemmings. It’s our duty to force him as far to the right as we can, as we know that the pressure will be to move to the center for the general. The best way to do this is to vote for the only acceptable conservative left in the race–Gingrich.

The primary fight didn’t hurt BHO in 2008, and relatively easy primaries didn’t help Bob Dole in 96 or McCain 08. We need as many conservative delegates as we can get, if we want to be relevant in Tampa. Ceding the rest of the race to Romney will get conservatives absolutely nowhere.
APA Guy

Review the posts of the trolls in question…you’ll gain a better understanding of why we’re taking them to the woodshed.
xymbaline

From the Romneybot Dictionary:

‘Troll’ n. 1. anyone who won’t give up their own judgement and give in to the Dark Side of the Force;

2. Anyone with the guts to show that the Moderate Emperor is really and truly naked.
gekster

Gingrich is totally out of Money.
RP is a loon who won’t get elected.

So just who is going to beat Romney.

Flagstaff

why is Obama worried that he isn’t going to get his billion dollars to beat him with?

garfieldjl

That he considers even the tiny chance for Romney to win to be unacceptable.

His record is so bad a ham sandwich could beat Obama. To keep the spotlight off his own Record, Obama will be launching an epic smear machine to try to keep the focus solely on Romney and make the election about Romney.

He will constantly focus on class warfare, Romney’s flip-flops, Romney’s own record and how his governorship was so similar to Obama’s Presidency, and finally he will spam the race card.

Romney’s an incredibly bad candidate because his record torpedoes many of the lines of attack on Obama’s record. Obama still considers Romney to be a threat to his hold on power though.

noprisoners49

Romney is where he is right now because of open primaries, etc. where ANYONE and their dog could vote for him.

Also, Mitt is being investigated for possible bribery – that silly old sandwich thing you know. But it just shows how little regard he has for anything that stands in his way — and the Constitution is in his crosshairs too.

noprisoners49

So have no fear of a Gingrich – Obama debate. Both Rick and Mitt bailed on the final debates because of the enthusiastic responses Newt got from the crowds. Chickens.

They couldn’t compete against Newt’s knowledge, so they shut down any further opportunities to fairly compare all the candidates on one stage. And again I mention poultry products.

xymbaline

That’s it in a nutshell.

gekster

I thought you lefties didn’t like the intolerence of Religeon and God.

xymbaline

Nobody is blessing *you*

How’s the weather in Romneyville today, Mr. Serf?
APA Guy

…you’re needed back at DK for the daily “How can we salvage the Obama campaign hopes” meeting.

Scamper along now…
xymbaline

Repeat this another 20 times, and you might convince yourself.
APA Guy

kos is calling you…go to her (whispers)…

http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

I remember his very poor leadership during the Clinton years, I remember how Clinton rolled him, took his lunch money, and gave him a wedgie.

I remember how he made himself so obnoxious to his fellow republican legislators they could not wait to throw him under the bus.

He is a great Idea man, but a numbskull at communication and a total loser in leadership.

checkmate2012

he’s all over the map. Seems to me he has a focus problem which is needed to implement ideas-not just generate ideas. Heck, BO is full of ideas, but even with a super-majority couldn’t get them implemented.

I’ll take a doer like Romney over a dreamer like Newt. It’s hard to support New nowt, a candidate that can’t run a national campaign, with the responsibility of running the country. I do hope he gets some type of cabinet position as he does have many great ideas.

Economy, regulations, energy and taxation should be the focus in the beginning before taking trips to the moon!
phenne

Again, my expectations are there for all to see and hear — but there is in-fighting as sport going on, and on, and on …….

“As Ratified” should be the rally cry of the T.E.A. Party, IMHO.

snowshooze

He thought for himself… worked with Reagan and ruffled a lot of feathers.
He got a lot done.
Romney, bless his heart, is not Man enough to go head to head against him.
Well, I can see the point. Romney has everything to lose, Newt has everything to gain. It would be plumb dumb for Romney to debate Newt. It would not go well for him. And Romney will not do well against Obama, I really was amazed how poorly he performed when he was pulled off-script.
Newt is a bulldog, a bar-room brawler, and a guy I would have cover my back.
In a fight, I wouldn’t be surprised if I turned arounf and Romney was gone
But I would have to fight Newt for my share of trouble….
That is my feel.
I don’t think Romney is cut from the stuff it takes to lead.
He is a Manager who has spent most his time under the orders of someone else, and when he was running his own gig, he was fleecing the Taxpayers. Or raiding. I believe him to be an opportunist.
And he shouldn’t be allowed to own pets….lol
Newt has direction. He can lead, and he will throw his weight.
He knows all the tricks, where the bodies are buried, even those he did not bury himself.
Romney plays one side off the other and stands in the middle to collect profit. Time and again.
So I am supporting Newt.
In case you were wondering.

checkmate2012

how do you suppose he will run the country? No offense, but anyone that cries fowl over the other candidate spent too much is a whiner in my book. Like I’ve said b/4, get used to it as the O’machine will be way worse! And way more negative.

I grant you that Next is awesome and a great debater. So let’s pretend that Newt gets the nomination. Will he whine that BO spent too much money and got more stage time in the “Lincoln style debates” and that’s why he lost? Just asking

Not to mention the popular vote as in 40 and under.

The math doesnt’ work and reality sucks.

snowshooze

With an unlimited budget.
If you want to call that a campaign.

checkmate2012

If Newt had the #’s we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Again, candidate X against O’machine will have a very hard time. So making excuses now won’t win delegates or the election in November.

I should change my name from checkmate2012 to realitysucks.

acat

the trouble is, Gingrich got such a late start out of the gate, and the Values crowd pushed Santorum so hard that Romney’s swamped The Newt.

It’s not over, but .. it is getting pretty darn late in the game and Gingrich has to score several runs to even push it into overtime, let alone winning.

Yes, Romney has to get to 1144 .. but that’s not quite true.

Romney can get there by making a deal with Ron Paul to trade delegates for naming Rand Paul as Sec.Treasury… and by making a deal with Santorum to name sweater-vest Rick Sec.HHS… or new head to the NLRB.

Romney is in a much stronger position to make these deals, eh?

I don’t like it… but at some point, we have to swing the focus back on replacing the POTUS… even if it’s with a candidate whose guts we hate.

Mew

checkmate2012

I elect you the Secretary of Trade for the potential swaps you just proposed! Very creative but still on track for your last sentence

JSobieski

I should point out that I voted for Newt in the Michigan primary this year.

I like Newt.

I would prefer Newt to Romney in 2012.

But heck, I preferred McCain to Obama in 2008.

What we prefer doesn’t really matter. Particularly when both nominees are selected.

checkmate2012

just the headline alone was great!

My new signature is realitysucks.

checkmate2012

and I wanted Romney over McCain in 2008. But no matter, as TX is under the thumb of Holder so again, we are mute.

dajeeps

It’s all about principle for my primary vote. Voting for Romney in November, which I have resigned myself to doing, will be about saving our collective arses from financial ruin among other things too dreadful and numerous to delineate here. If we think Obama has been the worst president to date, another term for him would simply remove any lingering doubt. He must not be reelected, and if I have to swallow every bit of pride and principle I have to see it done, then that’s what I have to do.
samcoastie

with the Pacers trailing by six with about 20 seconds left and getting on with my day. A couple hours later I found out Reggie Miller had hit a 3, stole the inbound, dribbled back and hit another three and then after the Knicks missed 2 freethrows Reggie hit a two pointer. In all he scored 8 points in 8.9 seconds.

Had you asked any pundit what the Pacers victory plan was with 20 seconds left, down by 6, most would have said pray, ’cause it’s over.

Newt needs a miracle to win. There is no ‘plan’ that can pull it out. But the final buzzer has not sounded.

In the field that remains, I prefer Romney to Gingrich. But I recognize the valid arguments of those that feel Gingrich is the better candidate. He may well be as both Romney and Gingrich require a person to believe they won’t repeat some things they have done or said in the past. I have no problem if Gingrich supporters wait until the buzzer sounds to get on board team Romney, or if that’s to much, at least team Nobama. I have no problem voting for Newt if he hits a three and steals three consecutive inbound passes, sinking a three each time, overcoming an 11 point deficit with 20 seconds to go. That’s about how I see the race at this point.

I don’t believe Garfield has said he will never vote for Romney, so why the outcry? It is grossly misplaced and does nothing to promote unity or rebuild bridges that we will need to beat Obama.

xymbaline

And that’s the point … The buzzer hasn’t sounded and the bell hasn’t rung. Nobody’s got the 1144.

Claiming that the game’s over is just counterfactual advocacy. It’s not over.

Back in ’08, when McCain picked Palin, the pair went from double digits down to several points up. Obama was on the ropes. However, the ‘Global Bank Failures’ were declared, and we *had* to give up billions *that weekend* or the world would collapse. Or so the media screamed.

McCain could have won conservatives back right there if he’d opposed the bailout. I was watching, and I was sitting there pulling for him to do the right thing.

He didn’t, though, He rolled over while ‘suspending’ his campaign, and it was no contest from that point.

So there’s nearly 7 months left to the election, and there’s a lot of time for similar ‘emergencies’ to be declared. Any of them could be a game-changer in any direction.

I’m here because I just don’t believe that Romney would handle such a manufactured crisis any better than McCain did. If you do, fine, but what if you’re wrong?

checkmate2012

been the nominee. It’s the primary schedule that should be fixed and we would’t be in this fix.

snowshooze

Not good.
The_Gadfly

And I say that as someone who opposes him most of the time. Sadly that hasn’t changed. The simplest formulation of all the problems with Romney is that with him as the Republican nominee, conservatives will be voting against The Big 0, not for Romney. And while all those establishment polls think that is the same thing, it isn’t.

JX12

There’s been a lot of sound and fury in this thread, but no real indication that the self-proclaimed Newt supporters posting herein will rally behind the duly-chosen nominee in his bid to unseat Obama unless he’s…well, Newt.

I like Newt. I like Santorum. For that matter, I like Perry. I am, however, under no illusions at this point that any of them will be the nominee. Would I have preferred a more conservative nominee than Romney? Absolutely. Will I take my ball and go home if I can’t get my way coming out of the primaries? BETTER NOT. Neither should you. If you have to reason in your mind that you’re voting for the “not-Obama,” then so be it. If you have to take the “lesser of two evils” approach, then fine – whatever it takes to get you to the polls.

If you decline to vote, you’re casting a vote for Obama. If you vote 3rd party, you’re casting a vote for Obama. If you write-in another candidate, you’re casting a vote for Obama. ANYTHING other than going to the polls and voting for the Republican nominee in November is casting a de-facto vote for Obama.

We can play “what if” right up to the convention. The real question is whether or not you’re going to support the Republican nominee (whoever he may be) once he has been officially proclaimed at the convention. If you’re not going to do that, then nothing any of you have said here will matter. All you will have managed to do in the end is contribute to Obama’s re-election (or at the very least, you will have done nothing of value to defeat him).

Conservative in the primary, REPUBLICAN IN THE GENERAL. Put up or shut up.

garfieldjl

I’m well aware of how bad Obama is, I’m also well aware of how bad Romney is.

I’m voting Republican in the General if Romney is the nominee, he’d get the vote, but it will only be because I’m against Obama. Romney has done nothing to get me to support him on his own merits.

checkmate2012

n/t

checkmate2012

tho’ you’ll take incoming for those that oppose that Romney and others that support realistic views like yours (well put BTW). So I will withhold my optimism for Romney (not my 1ast pick either) but I will speak out for conservative values and hope to push our “presumed” nominee in the right direction, as in send emails to his website to keep him on the straight and narrow.

snowshooze

Why would he care?

mswalnut

The argument that Newt does not have the money to compete with Obama is plain wrong.

Both Parties have big donors and individuals who will support their Party nominee in the general, just like we support our own candidates in the primary. They don

mswalnut

for those who think Newt is a better candidate to take on Obama, they should consider making a donation to Newt now. He really needs all of our support and now is the time when our donations will truly make a difference.

Argentum

If we can keep Romney from getting the 1144 delegates necessary, then we can have a brokered convention and get a real conservative in there, whoever that might be.

So really, even if your guy isn’t in the race any more, why would you rubber stamp the media’s choice for us by voting for Romney?

gekster

do you have a plan, something that might work,
or are you just another tribble taking the field.

Argentum

Well any plan to stop Romney has to center around keeping him from securing the 1144 delegates required to win on the first ballot.
Newt has to stay in. Any other candidates who might also be running should also stay in.
The ABR (anybody but romney) vote has to be legitimized, so that people know they don’t just have to vote for Romney when they go to the primary. We do that by resisting the pressure to just go with the flow. (I’m talking to YOU John Boehner)
No matter who wins in Tampa, we’ve got to rally ’round. But it doesn’t HAVE to be Romney. Not yet. We’ve still got time.

gekster

there are only two others in the race.
RP, who is basically a loon who draws mostly a few
collage kids and a few fringe others,
and Gingrich, who says Romniys going to be the nominee,
and has said he is only staying in the race to influence the Republican platform, and is also out of any money to mount any real challenge to Romney.
To late for any others to jump in, and whether you believe that the establishment and/or media is somehow forcing people to vote Romney, he is non the less geting the votes to win.

Just what can change that, scenario in a realistic way.

Argentum

that a brokered convention can nominate anyone they want, even if they’ve suspended their campaign?

Maybe someone more knowledgable than myself could answer whether the delegates might even be able to nominate someone who is not running at all?
gekster

A brokered convention is highly unlikely at this point.
In honesty, I wanred a different candidate to win.
It won’t happen, it is what it is.
We have to go to war with the geneal we have/will choose.
Argentum

I’m working here in the trenches, and the numbers I’m seeing are NOT reflected in the RCP delegate count. Don’t give up!!

All it takes to get a brokered convention is to deny Romney the 1144 he needs on the first round. To do THAT we need to help people understand that they don’t need to vote for Romney just because the TV says to.

Vote for whom you want, even if his campaign is suspended!
Ender

in any trenches with your fantasy numbers. And receiving the same replies over and over. What a joke. Dimwits.
Argentum

Other than you’re a Romney-bot and don’t want anyone raining on your parade.

clintonformccain

…. he was the only candidate in the entire field who demonstrated the ability to run a disciplined, big-league, national campaign. You know, like, with basic stuff such as fundraising and advertising and oppo research and surrogates and messaging — the stuff that will be essential to send Barry’s butt back to Chicago where it belongs.

Argentum

We’ve got opportunity to put forward a REAL conservative because, quite frankly, “Occupy Whitehouse” (Obama for those of you in Rio Linda, as Maharushie would say) is going to defeat himself.

Not that it won’t take work, but I think any Republican (within reason) could beat him like a rented mule.

http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

I really have my doubts that either Santorum or Gingrich could have beaten him. They both had so many negatives and had said so many squirrley things that could be used against them.
clintonformccain

I think the Republicans have a chance (which they didn’t have in 2008 with Bush fatigue), but I think it will be very difficult election requiring a serious, big league, national campaign with tremendous message discipline.

Argentum

It’s going to take work. But it’s very very very do-able, no matter who we run.

Argentum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvOjycyH54g&feature=youtu.be

Don’t know why they put RP in the tags (??), but here’s a clip of Soros discussing Romney, Santorum, and Newt.

Ender

you sound like another leftist plant, pretending to be an extremely delusional “tea party patriot”. You guys are reading from the same script on this nonsense, all through this thread. This is like a gathering of idiots.

Argentum

I just thought it was interesting that Soros thinks there’d be no real change with Romney.

Don’t YOU find that interesting?

You do know who Soros is, right? Think Dr. Evil, except without the silver suit and shark tanks.

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exitsfunnel

who do you like in last years super bowl?

-exits
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

Please lay out a plan, state-by-state with delegate counts and show us how Newt is going to stop Romney from getting 1144. Also please note how he’s going to fund his campaign.

FWIW, I don’t disagree with your talking points with the exception of calling on Winston Churchill. That is simply not the case.
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

Newt is going to stop Romney. You need to cover:

** A state-by-state breakdown of delegates;
** Where Newt’s money is going to come from to compete.

Be sure to include your assumptions.
noprisoners49

What is it with you, mbecker…? The same old talking points “state-by-state”, blah, blah, blah. Do you sincerely want to bludgeon folks into voting for someone they despise? Just askin’…
JSobieski

So good for you.

Now, what are we going to do about unseating Obama in 2012?

I voted for Newt in Michigan this year. I suggest you vote for Newt when you have the opportunity.

You may also choose to vote for American Idol one or more times.

But again we return to the question of —-what are we going to do about unseating Obama in 2012?

I don’t think Newt has anything to do with how that question is answered? At least not in the world of non-fiction.
garfieldjl

Never have, not a really big sports fan in general but I digress.
APA Guy

Romney is the GOP candidate…PERIOD. Your choice is Obama on steroids or Mitt Romney…you make the call.
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

You’re avoiding the obvious.

Come on, show us you’re actually bright enough to produce an electoral analysis.
snowshooze

Or is is it just mbecker..
noprisoners49

Hold your opponents to a higher standard, make them prove everything

What an obvious trap. The author of this diary entry has nothing to prove to you mbecker.
beccaleigh

It is something that has become very clear with the focus of the political discussion turning to the 2nd Amendment.

Sure, Mitt gave a good speech at the NRA Convention but it’s a shame that it was practically a carbon copy of what Newt has already said.

We have Obama who understands exactly what the 2nd Amendment means and why it is so important, but he does not believe in the same values that we do.

Romney refers to it only in terms of hunting rabbits and shooting quail. He has no grasp on it’s importance.

Newt both understands and espouses the fundamental rights granted to us and what it takes to keep them. That is the best way to show how the 3 of them view our Constitution and it will take a true believer to beat the “Constitutional scholar” who has studied the document for the sole purpose of subverting it.
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

Because none of the virulent toads who keep insisting Romney isn’t/won’t be the nominee can produce an analysis that details how that’s going to happen.

Perhaps you’d like to try?
garfieldjl

I think it is a pretty big deal if Romney really did simply parrot what Newt had already said.
noprisoners49

Mittens…? Meh. He stole one of Newt’s earlier speeches. Poser.
WillWong

I have been quiet for a while but my support for Newt has not wane at all.
noprisoners49

It’s good to know someone else is concerned about preserving the power of our Constitution!
noprisoners49

Smack ‘em down and shut ‘em up, eh mbecker? Didja read where Romney only got 38% of the delegates in Colorado the last coupla days? Toldja the trend would continue, but will you listen? Heavens no!

We’ll see you at the Convention.
noprisoners49

History is being made. Let’s see what happens. My prediction is that if the American electorate find their stones, Mitt is outta here.

BTW, did you see that Romney only took 38% of the delegates in Colorado this weekend? What did I tell you? Mitt can’t get his numbers up no matter how much money he spends or how many sandwiches he buys.
noprisoners49

Better let their citizens know it’s over. They’ll be so pleased that voting is not really required this time around.
noprisoners49

Don’t you get tired of this tactic?
xymbaline

Goober.
Wayne

until the convention. As Americans, we are entitled to our opinions and right to support whomever candidate we wish. For whatever reason or not reason at all.

The sentiment toward Romney in most that I discuss is one of reserved support, yet all wishing there was another choice. I do believe that the Republican Party leaders made it clear of their support for Romney and knew that they would have to get the “more conservative” elements of the party in line eventually.

Enough said.
Christine

Vote for whoever you want, because your voice should be heard. I personally intend to do the same when my primary finally comes along.

That said, you have to remember when you vote that at this moment, unless someone can come up with that state-by-state analysis MB mentions that would prove otherwise, no one but Mitt has a real chance. That’s reality, and it doesn’t matter if you believe that reality was manufactured or not (if you do, then your focus should be to work on the primary process and the GOP after this election).
http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

Actually, he got 42% (43% if you include alternates)

Here’s the rest of the story….

Romney 42% (43%)
Santorum 13% (11%)
Paul 0% (6%)
Undecided 44% (41%)

This is a textbook case showing why caucuses should be outlawed. Remember when it was announced that Santorum won Colorado? Over 40% of the delegates representing Colorado are going to Tampa uncommitted. If you count the Santorum delegates now that he’s dropped out, it’s over 50%. How does that represent the wishes of the voters in Colorado? It’s a farce. When the State GOP calls and asks for money, what should I tell them?

Oh, like half of the delegates going to Tampa, I’m still undecided…

If you think those Undecided voters are going to suddenly jump to Newt Gingrich, I want what you’re having, and I was supporting Newt until it was clear he had no chance at the nomination (roughly right after Florida voted). Newt got zero delegates here in Colorado. He just didn’t have the organization to compete.
xymbaline

n/t
xymbaline

- Curt Gowdy, toward the end of a fantastic AFL game before the merger.

The most wild and wooly football I have ever seen.

Let’s keep the spirit going!
xymbaline

Of course, you could change the SF analogy. There are many that fit.

Romneybots are the V on the space ship.

Romneybots are the Aliens that Ripley had to fight.

We still have time to shout:”"Gort! Klaatu barada nikto!”

We are the Eloi, and the Romneybots are the Morlocks.

Lots of fun to be had here.
xymbaline

in my Senior Citizen lifetime.
BigRedConservative

It’s their Maoist obsession with Gingivitis’ cult of personality, and their Brownshirt-esque fanaticism. Get a grip on reality, Newt is as much a big-governmentist as Romney, and only just less so than Obama. At least Obama doesn’t make any bones about his socialism – Newt finds it necessary to disguise his support for cap-and-trade, Medicare part D…

I will vote for Newt over Obama. What worries me is that you guys probably wouldn’t vote for anyone else but the serialism adulterer Newt.
APA Guy

You have been exposed…both of you. I shall call you Troll 1 and Troll 2. “right”wingnut2 is Troll 3 and garfield is Troll 4. This will make you all easily identifiable.

Glad to help…
gekster

I guess that take the place of a detailed plan of how someone can beat Romney.
APA Guy

Troll 2, thank you for weighing in.
APA Guy

You cower in the corner.

My take? You don’t have an answer…nor are you looking for one. You are here to disrupt, Troll 1. You fool no one.
gekster

To be more precise, the back of it.
gekster

Anyone can say anything.

I highly doubt you are anything close to senior.

All the seniors I know show sighns of intelligence.
Viet71

xymbaline and his fellow travelers have nothing of substance to offer here. They act in the manner of providing electric shocks to the dead Frankenstein monster (Newt), stirring up Igor and the town folks.

When the monster is gone, they’ll be gone.
xymbaline

Let’s see … supporting someone other Romney makes you a ‘troll’ with ‘no signs of intelligence’.

Ok, all of you who’ve at one time or another supported Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich now know how the Romneybots see you.
gekster

If I may make a point also.
It shows just how desperate, inane, and totally with out reason that the left has become.
beckers respectfull and thoughtfull question about how anyone else could have a chance to beat Romney has drawn silence from them.

It is there for all to see.

A side question, when was your SE Asia vacation.
Mine was 73/74 for almost one year.
APA Guy

In the meantime, no law saying we can’t play whack-a-mole

By the way, thank you for your service. Without our great fighting men and women, we wouldn’t even have the freedom to troll or expose trolls.
WillWong

A Frankenstein monster!

While some of us put the highest premium on so called electability, there are many who put conservatism higher!
Viet71

III Corps, Viet Nam. Army intelligence officer.

How ’bout yourself?
WillWong

By donating to Newt and keeping his campaign alive, we have become leftist? What a way to unite the anti-Obama vote! Roll eyes!
xymbaline

oh Glorious Citizen of Romneyville.

Why should I disclose our plans to you?

We’re warriors, so it’s natural you can’t understand us.
xymbaline

short of 1144 delegates, and we aim to stop him.
xymbaline

no more comment needed.
WillWong

He ain’t no troll!
xymbaline

Or do you post one-handed from the local Library?

To keep the SF analogies going, you’re one of the Zombies from ‘Night of the Living Romney’,coming soon to a theater near you.
Viet71

You sincerely support Newt, which I respect.

The interlopers, such as xymbaline, are here to play on your sincerity and sow dissention.
APA Guy

You are not a Johnny-come-lately who spends copious amounts of time trying to convince people here why Mitt Romney should lose to Barack Obama.

Don’t be romanced into thinking that Trolls 1-4 in any way share your passion for Newt. They are here to disrupt…and a look into their recent comment history will bear that fact out.
xymbaline

They aren’t nice people. They aren’t conservative, and they sound like Liberals when they talk.

Many Santorum people are truly heart-broken by their chosen guy dropping out. Back when RedState was conservative, many people mourned the loss of Rick Perry.

Right now, the Santorum people are getting a look at the intolerance and bile that’s coming from the Romney folks. They’re going to remember that Romney is the guy who spent untold millions telling lies and smears against Santorum.

The Romneybots aren’t going to attract the Santorum supporters. Their only choice now is Newt, and when the primaries start up again, the math will change dramatically.

The Citizens of Romneyville are hoping to take your mind over so you’ll accept Romney against your conscience and better judgement, just like they have.

Don’t be one of them. Keep your integrity.
APA Guy

Once the primary season is officially over, you’ll either support Romney beating Obama or you’ll be history…bank on it.

By the way, “Operation Hilarity” was a complete bomb. Tell Markos his little plan failed and you toads were exposed from the jump.

Bye bye…scamper along now…
gekster

1st cal Div. out of Ft Hood.
I was in the motor pool WVM.

Sorry for late reply, got my two grandsons over, both age 9,and got caught up in a game of golf on the WII.
They beat me again. It seams the always beat me.
They want a rematch.
APA Guy

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
gekster

you are not one of the conservatives on this site.
APA Guy

Don’t leave us in suspense…what adventures will Operation Hilarity hold in store for RedState members then?

I tingle with anticipation…
xymbaline

On full display.
APA Guy

But then again, they also worship Obama…so much for STOOPID
gekster

I hate Romney I hate Romney I hate romney
I hate Romney I hate Romney I hate romney
I hate Romney I hate Romney I hate romney
I hate Romney I hate Romney I hate romney
I hate Romney I hate Romney I hate romney
I hate Romney I hate Romney I hate romney
I hate Romney I hate Romney I hate romney

Now I’m going to go and play video games with my 9 year old grand kids.
I feel a need to be with someone more intelligent than you.
APA Guy

Transparent you are…fooling on no one.
Bill S

…to watch you flame out and get yourself banned when Romney gets the nomination.

And we thought the pro-Romney people were obnoxious idiots…
APA Guy

Open-minded to trolling against the GOP nominee who will replace a socialist president? NEVER

Sorry to disappoint you, Troll 2
Viet71

You’ve got a free pass. Have some fun here. Hell, insult a few of the conservatives.

You should know your boss, Markos, who’s a very smart guy, would sell you out in an instant if it furthered his cause (i.e., his pocketbook).

So as Gale Garnett sang, “…sing in the sunshine….”

When the Supreme Court strikes down the ACA, your guy Obama will be revealed to the public for what he is, a fraud, a fool, and a con man.

Too bad he doesn’t have the basic character and decency of Romney.
xymbaline

As Viet1 observes, I *am* having fun here.

This thread is called “Why I support Newt Gingrich”.

I support Newt Gingrich, and have been happy to say so for quite a while.

Now, I am quite amused to being labelled a ‘troll’.

OK, if it’s being a ‘troll’ to:

To support the Unalienable Rights described in the Declaration;

To support the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 9th and 10th Amendments to the Constitution by fighting against those who would abridge them;

To support the abolition of the EPA and look to remake the Dep’t of Education from the ground up;

To work for a true American Energy Independence Policy, to want to see drilling opened wide and money no longer sent to our enemies;

To want to see ObamaCare, Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank repealed;

To see the whole Government Service bureaucracy scrapped and replaced with a modern model;

To want the UN to recognize that the right to bear arms is a human right, one that should be recognized everywhere;

To want to see a Flat Tax rate go into effect and to see Government expenditures reduced to the size of Government Revenues;

To want the Death Tax repealed;

To want our Corporate Tax rate dropped by 2/3rds;

then By God, Harriet, I must be a troll.
xymbaline

I’m here because the thread is “Why I support Newt Gingrich”, and I support Newt Gingrich.

It’s only in the fevered brains of Romneyville citizens that anyone who disagrees is to be shunned.

A note to those of you who are looking around to see where to go since Rick Santorum suspended his campaign, this is how you’ll be treated too, unless you “Accept and Obey” without question.

Just warning you; Romney people don’t allow disagreement.
xymbaline

I’m repeating what I wrote before as “Troll2 Weighs in”

As Viet1 observes, I *am* having fun here.

This thread is called
xymbaline

Romney’s hustled you already.
xymbaline

You can do research on the internet, you know.

It’s a wonderful thing.

willfong, I respect. garfieldjl, I respect.

You, not so much.
garfieldjl

Okay, that is way over the line.

Further, have you even bothered to google Newt’s congressional testimony concerning Cap & Trade? I have, I watched the entire testimony from start to finish, and Gingrich testified against Cap & Tax.

So you compare people like me to Nazis for supporting Gingrich, and expect me to get in line behind Romney.
WillWong

Best conservative record in the last 40 years after Reagan including winning the House for the first time in 40 years, defending the House majority for the first time in 68 years, and helped passed the first balance d budget in my lifetime.
acat

much more anti-Romney than pro-Gingrich.

That’s trolling.

Mew
APA Guy

SHOCKED I am…
garfieldjl

[quote]In the meantime, no law saying we can
phenne

I took time and read the article, and the commentary / responses posted here.

Y’all got issues.

I have only one, for this task we face — replacing the Left and their #1 — and few ever speak to it.

Probably because a lack of intestinal fortitude.

Here is MY issue with our November 2012 (R) candidates, stated as a clear expectation = will they read, understand, and implement without distraction, the Constitution of the United States, “as ratified.”

I know what that means. Few elected (R) officials do.
aesthete

The Nazis won their election, after all.

I keed, I keed…
Viet71

Just deceitful. Your words give you away.
WillWong

FWIW, I have seen Viet71′s support of Newt more than I have seen yours.
Viet71

He is trying to confuse you.

Ask him for his verifiable conservative creds.

He doesn’t like Romney. He’s trying to sow dissent.
mswalnut

.
xymbaline

they were affirmations of what you said.

When you were taking flak, like I am here, I made a point to back you up and let other people know you weren’t alone.

I didn’t have much to add since you carried the ball really well.

Also, since RedState was then a generally a Pro-Perry site, I didn’t chime in much because I felt people were entitled to their own opinions. On other sites, I’m much more a Newt advocate.

Here, however, the All-Romney, All the Time posters are going over the line repeatedly, and I have little to no respect for them.
WillWong

And I just stated that I had put my money where my mouth is! What is there to be confused about!

My stand is just like Newt’s! Until Romney gets his 1144 delegates, the race is still on! And true conservatives now have a chance to put their money where their mouths are! They are left with a Reagan conservative running man to man against a Massachusetts Moderate!

No confusion here!
kowalski

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gekster

99.9% of his comments are bashing Romney, .1% is supporting Newt.
And if you compare this diary to the Gingrich website, well, just take a look.

I recoed this because I thought he would start spending his time supporting Newt, but insted he just slipped back into attack Romney mode.

In my book that is a tribble.
WillWong

Romney is a troll too! 99% of his ads were on bashing Newt and Santorum! I was being nice by not saying 100%!
gekster

Romney is a candidate running, as the other is not.
He is just posting anti Romney crap.
Romney is supporting himself. that’s what candidates do.
This person is just trying to bash Romney, and showing little support if any for his so called preferred candidate.
There are a few here who, although pointing out Romneys negatives,
also point out thier candidates positives. I have no problem with them,
They at the least prop up thier preffered candidate.
This poster, alomg with another handfull, are all about just bashing Romney. And if you noticed as I and a couple of others noted, only started posting thier spiel after Santorum dropped out.
Where were all these anti Romney posters a couple of months ago when there were more than two viable (I don’t count RP) candidates in the race.
Just seams funny that they all came out of the woodwork at the same time.
Daily Kos “operation hilarity” has been mentioned by more than a few here.
Thier only aim is to discredit Romney, who by all appearences, will be the nominee.
WillWong

and also for being so involved as to notice those characteristics of trolls. I still think Garfield is a real Newt supporter as I have seen his numerous posts on my diaries.
xymbaline

Feel free to speak as soon as your boy gets 1144 delegates and wins the nomination on the first ballot.

Until then, you’re just blowing smoke.
JSobieski

I am interested in sure thing propositions, and since you subscribe to the opposite—I see a potential transaction here.
xymbaline

I wouldn’t normally be answering you, but that fact is, I’m about your age, and I can’t tell you how many hours, days and weeks I spent being there with my vet friends as they went through the unexpected rejection they faced in those days. I was with them through the fits of rage, the night sweats and many more things we needn’t talk about.

I drove my friends to the VA when they came back with Agent Orange problems, I stayed with them in the hospital when they attempted suicide, and I absorbed a lot of punches when they just had to hit *somebody*. Better me than their wives or girlfriends, I always thought.

Those were brutal times. However, if I’d have met you then I’d have been your ally, and I am your ally now.

I was the designated hitter when people faced horrible attacks from the leftist radicals. I debated more leftist student and professors than I can list here and learn how to take their best shots and punch back.

I was in Madison WI the day after the bombing of the Army-Math building. So the people I was opposing made bombs and liked to use them.

APAGuy seems to have his head up his butt about this, but I’ve fought for more Conservative causes and done so longer than all but a few folks.

DKOS troll? Stupid, even to think of it. Not a chance.
APA Guy

Looks like the rattlesnakes are beginning to commit suicide…
APA Guy

Thank you for outing yourself time and again…only a troll would make such an outrageous leap. NO ONE is or could be as socialist as Obama…save Bernie Sanders, perhaps…but just barely.
Viet71

Disagree with him if you wish.

He’s the real deal conservativc
gekster

Let him claim what he wants to.
Although a leapard can’t change it’s spots,
if you can’t see it, it can claim to be a panther all day long.
APA Guy

…where Romney has 57% to 19% lead over Gingrich.

He also basically said Romney was as socialist as Obama.

I’m sorry, Viet71..I call BS when someone is so blatantly and intentionally dropping his talking points.
snowshooze

About the best chance we have for an alternative is just to stay out of his way.
I have noticed though, when he comes out and says something incredibly stupid… it goes under the rug in a hurry.
Don’t worry, that is where the Democrats store all that stuff and they will have it all out later.
No, it doesn’t look good for anyone who doesn’t care for Romney much, such as myself.
But Willard might just do himself in.
Other than that, I just have to wait and see what I wind up with.
garfieldjl

Unless George Soros recently acquired Hot Air, which if he had, you know something I don’t because I wasn’t aware of it. I took the information from the article there as a cause of concern.

Furthermore, most of the people that are saying we have to support Romney, that I run across here, are not supporting Romney, they are against Obama. So, that leads me to believe that the polling data may have some accuracy.

To use a term many other people on the spectrum have come up with, I’m not a neurotypical, I’m on the spectrum meaning I’m not big on guile or deception. When I say something there is not some ulterior agenda. It’s why people like myself often don’t fit in, we’re honest even when it is not socially advisable. If a woman asks me about a new hairdo or dress, and I think it looks awful, my first instinct is to say so, and I often still will, even though cognitively I know that that isn’t really advisable in a social situation.

I had to memorize figures of speech when I was younger. I know you want for me to be a Democrat plant, but that doesn’t change the fact I really am a Conservative Republican.

When I say I think Romney is almost as socialist as Obama, that’s what I genuinely believe about Romney.

You want to yap about me having talking points APA Guy, sorry but I have no hidden agenda, I say what I believe on an issue, and that’s that.

As for remembering what other people say, one of my areas of interest currently is politics, cause Obama scares me to death, and I’m scared where this country is going.

Also people on the spectrum like myself tend to get ticked off when people accuse them of being dishonest.
Argentum

who those undecideds are going to…

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