« BACK  |  PRINT

RS

MEMBER DIARY

Will Boehner cry when he hands Pelosi the gavel in January 2015?

By: gawken (Diary)  |  January 17th, 2013 at 06:09 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

Just reading the news that the House GOP is considering a short term hike to the debt ceiling.

Paul Ryan, as quoted in “The Hill” this afternoon:

“We’re discussing the possible virtue of a short-term debt limit extension so that we have a better chance of getting the Senate and the White House involved in discussions in March,” Ryan told reporters gathered at the pricey Kingsmill resort in Williamsburg, where the House GOP is holding its annual retreat.

I give up.

What, pray tell, Mr. Ryan, will be different in two months, other than that we will have gone several hundred BILLION more in debt , without ANY cuts in spending or entitlements.

Here’s an idea for you, Mr. Ryan. Once, just once, how about a SHORT TERM CUT IN SPENDING to go along with the debt ceiling increase.

You clowns are absolutely clueless. You bring to the floor bills that pass with almost NO GOP support. The Democrats are openly laughing at you. When she was Speaker, did did she ever allow that? No, you dumb asses, she didn’t.

Well, enjoy it while you can.

Boehner can have one last good public cry when he hands Nancy Pelosi the Speaker’s gavel in two years.

COMMENTS

POSTING RULES  |  LOGIN TO COMMENT  |  REGISTER TODAY
  • thirdeblue3639

    I agree. Either nut up and refuse to give Obama his debt limit increase or cave and cave quickly. Otherwise, you’re going to look like FOOLS when you play chicken and swerve at the last minute, over and over and over again.

  • Sir Aaron

    Yep, agree completely. Stand up and fight or retreat. Just stop acting like a peacock only to run away at your own shadow when the wind picks up.

  • plumely

    Unfortunately at the rate they are going, the earth will be scorched in 2014 and Republicans will be out of power for a very long time.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Bravo to the House leadership! First good idea in a while!

    . I’ve been proposing the short-term extension route as the best way to defuse the current political dynamic. Budgets have to be written and compromised upon. The real problem is the total and utter lack of Senate fiscal responsibility and Senate budgets and Senate action. Short term increase puts the onus back on the Senate, puts the debt ceiling calendar after the next sequester and puts budget negotiations front and center.

    The difference in a few months – the ‘crisis’ will be off the front pages, Gawken, and when it rolls back around Obama will be back demanding we pass an increase. Bad? No good, because he will sound like the whiney boy who cries wolf all the time.

    By then he will either have agreed or NOT agreed on a budget, the short term extension leaves the debt ceiling increase as later leverage for the agreed budget … it has a few added bonuses:

    - the Senate will HAVE to respond … pass a bigger one? refuse to pass a short one? The fun part is that it will be on THEM? and where is their budget? What do they have for FY 2014?

    - The President too – will he be whining about a $200b increase as ‘not enough’?

    Doing this will expose their whole charade and circus.

    The “Lets fight” crowd miss the point that Obama gains power from a crisis and at the end of the day, the debt ceiling will HAVE to be raised. There is not the votes to balance the budget in 90 days and its economically impossible just based on mandatory spending so there is no ‘leverage’ in ‘shutdown’ – it doesnt force spending choices. The budget discussion does.The ‘fight or cave’ options are the 2 worst options, when the better options are Jujitsu – use Obama’s power against him. Specifically, lets use the short term extension and his ginning up fear AGAINST HIM: By making him drag this out, people will see its on HIM to get real budget proposals; his whiny act will be exposed and the ‘crisis’ will become a ‘oh, he’s at it again’. If and when the budget shutdown happens it will be an anticlimax.

    It’s all about what addons Congress puts into the bill. A short-term extention allows the add-ons to be low key and easier to get agreement on. In other words, a $2 trillion increase would mean real entitlement reform – which Senate would reject. Far better to have a small debt ceiling increase with minor noncontroversial spending cuts. Republicans dont have the power to win, only the power to get some compromise. As of now, Obama is refusing to negotiate. He wants all the marbles. The other good thing about this is that it will be reasonable.

    And if Obama says “Its not enough!” WELL HE SAID HE WOULDNT NEGOTIATE. If he wants to negotiate, he has to do it via the Senate.

    The House Republicans are learning – slowly – this is a good idea and the best option it is sad indeed to see conservatives denigrate them for a politically smart and savvy way forward here.

    • gawken

      Thanks for a careful, and well reasoned response. This is the type of debate/discussion that RedState needs. To me, your argument fails because it assumes that the GOP leadership will finally, this next upcoming time, find the courage of their convictions. I’ve seen nothing that indicates that they are capable of such leadership. If they do manage to grow cojones, then you may be right.

      BTW, may I suggest that you post your comment as a new diary. It merits greater readership

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “Here’s an idea for you, Mr. Ryan. Once, just once, how about a SHORT TERM CUT IN SPENDING to go along with the debt ceiling increase.”

    How do you know thats not in there?

  • trem

    I’m beginning to understand that the Republicans are not actually trying to cut spending, hell they sure as hell didn’t when they were in power. What they want is the Democrats to do it so they take the heat for it. This means it is never going to happen because they are never going to push hard enough because they sure as hell don’t want the cuts pinned on them. So now they are simply pretend fighting so they can cave and claim they tried.