[Gekster, future diaries calling out users may result in your banning. Don't do it again. – NS]

I am on RedState because I find honest debate on this site. People are allowed, as per conservatism, to express thier opinions here, and get honest, rhetorical response.
Inspite of this, I have a rant

I recently commented on an article by
toni100,
Time is Running Out for Marine Widow Hota Ferschke - Your Help Is Needed.

It is the plight of a child and mother of a solder who was killed in action.
The post was mainly about how this solders wife by proxy was having a hard time with the status of her and her childs imigration.
I commented how illeagle immigrants get everything, and this particular widow was having a hard time getting benifits from our Government.
After re-reading, as I often do, I found out that this child was born on a US military base.
I made the comment that this baby, like John McCain, was also born on a militatry base, and could possibly be President of the USA.
In jest, wich no one took as jest, was that if Obama was Kenyan, as stated by some, then this child also could be president.

Then it started:
——, made this reply:
—— Wednesday, October 14th at 6:01AM EDT
It’s rude, crude, and utterly self-centered to your belief that Obama is not a U.S. citizen which should have had nothing at all to do with this diary.
He made this comment and I was accussed of threadjacking.
I was not talking about discrediting Obama, as much as I was trying to say that maybe this particular child, as any born with US citizenship, could be President.

My reply to his comment was natural, as if someone was jumping on me.

My reply:
Aside from offending you, prove hes not a Kenyen.
Show me the birth certificate

That opened the slam.
We are ready to pounce on those we deem week.
Some people are just ready to slam anyone they can. They’re just looking for something, anything, I guesse.

It was then posted by——-:
Another birther needs the boot…nt.
———Wednesday, October 14th at 12:13PM EDT

I had now became a birther.
I don’t know how. I made a off-hand remark about Obama and now became a “birther”.
I didn’t know this, but I was at that moment also linked to the 9/11ers.

I asked of ——-:

I’m curious as to why you think that I should be booted
gekster Wednesday, October 14th at 12:48PM EDT
I don’t consider myself a “birther”.Just someone who wants to know the truth.
I’m not advocating Obama be removed from office for not showing a valid birth cirtificate.
I just want to know the truth.
It seems you don’t agree with me. Why give me the boot.
Because you don’t agree with the valid cirtificate thing.
At the recent RS gathering, when a speaker suggested that in the state of Georgia a law be passed that if someone runs for President in the state of Georgia that they have to produce a valid US birth cirtificate.
It got a rousing round of applause from the group.
Are they all birthers too, or just people who want the laws of this country upheld,
up to and including the Federal laws.
Eric applauded. Is he a birther also..
you want to boot him too?

No reply from –, but some other idiot just had to jump in:

Gekstercraft is a birther??
——– Wednesday, October 14th at 12:51PM EDT (link)
who knew?

Blam

I got the blam from him. Some friend.
And the name is gekster.

From ——, he’s here implying that I’m an idiot”.

Scoot your chair closer, little one.

—— Wednesday, October 14th at 1:09PM EDT (link)
Barack Obama is the President of these United States. He was duly elected by the Electoral College of the States.

There is no requirement that anyone have a birth certificate, even to seek the Presidency. There is a contemporaneous account of his birth found in a local newspaper. His family says he was born here. The President of the United States said, as a U. S. Senator, under penalty of perjury (which would put him in jail), that he was born here. The State of Hawaii says he was born here. Any one of those things would be good enough for me. All of them put together make for an impenetrable case.

See you on some other site.

He thinks I am gone at this point and have been banned.

to molify him, I said
I’ll accept your explanation, I can learn
gekster Wednesday, October 14th at 1:21PM EDT (link)
I’m not going to push it to the point of insanity.
I see that its a touchy subject to some here.
I’ll drop it now

Yeh. Some get realy angry if you say something they don’t like.
I don’t see why, except this is a lighting rod point to get some people peeved for no reason.

Then I got this:

It’s not about what you believe.
——– Wednesday, October 14th at 1:35PM EDT (link)

I’ve tried my best to give you ‘birthers’ some leeway but you hijacked a diary that had absolutely nothing to do with Obama to plug your silly conspiracy theory and that is what is rude, crude, self-centered.

So now what I believe doesm’t mater to someone who doesn’t know what “I” believe.
I didn’t know I was plugging a conspiricy theory.
I made one hap-ass remark,and now i’m getting this.
I did learn about the thread jack thing though.
the next comment was from –.
Well…
– Wednesday, October 14th at 2:05PM EDT (link)
A) Don’t threadjack
B) Birthers need not comment here. I’m sure there’s a conspiracy theory site out there somewhere that will meet your needs.

My final words on this thread

gekster Wednesday, October 14th at 2:56PM EDT (link)
I now know what contemporaneous means.
Yes, I had to look it up.And although I thought I knew before, I now also know what a “thread jack” is.
I will not knowingly do it again.
Thanks for your patience and instruction.

I was just going to leave this alone and hoped it went away, but then I today while I was perusing RS,
I read from 10/9 where someone was actually promoting the “birther movement”.
I did not see a comment from:
——,
——-,
——or ——r,
to this other person.
No one calling for a Blam.
I make one half-ass remark and some of you are ready to throw me to the wolves,
or at least to the lefties.

I’ve been on this site for 1 year now.
I have gone astray some times, but have seen my errors and try to stick to the debate.
I have banned myself from this site because of conduct unbecoming of a gekster.
I am human, I make mistakes like most humans and as such can learn.
Instead of making a teaching moment as to which we can learn, you all were ready to throw me out.
Do you hold yourself to the same judgement?
The misinterpretation of what I ment from some on this site jumped as bad as Rush and the Rams.

You’ll have to throw me to the wolves, I’m not going because you don’t like the debate.
And ——- I sat next to you at the RSG.
I am anything but “little”.

I see I have gone astray again. I will not do it again. I am still in the learning process.
Teach me in the ways of RS. I am willing to learn.

This is a story that was sent to me, and I don’t know who the author is, or if it is even true.
That doesn’t matter here.
Some of you might have seen this before.
It is the simplest explanation to me yet how Socialism has and is being imposed on us every day,
How it is creeping on us, and how we get blinded, yes, blinded into accepting it into our daily lives.

Catching Wild Pigs

A chemistry professor in a large college had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab the Professor noticed one young man (exchange student) who kept rubbing his back, and stretching as if his back hurt.

The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country’s government and install a new communist government.

In the midst of his story he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked, ‘Do you know how to catch wild pigs?’

The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said this was no joke. ‘You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat a gain. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.

Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.

The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening to America . The government keeps pushing us toward socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc..
While we continually lose our freedoms — just a little at a time.
author opinion:
One should always remember: There is no such thing as a free lunch! Also, a politician will never provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.

Also, I hope you see that all of this wonderful government ‘help’ is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America . God help you when the gate slams shut!

Keep your eyes on the newly elected politicians who are about to slam the gate on America .

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have”

Thomas Jefferson
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I hope you enjoyed this and understand what it is I’m trying to convey.
Liberals are trying to build the fence,
Conservatives are trying to tear it down.
You are on one side or the other, and there should be no stradling here.
If you are a moderate, no matter which party, then you are a stradler.
You put your finger out to the wind to see which way you are going today.
At least have enough guts to pick a side.
McCain was a straddler. That’s one reason he lost.
What make Sarah Palin so popular is she is on the tear down this fence side.
Didn’t someone else say tear down this fence?
Oh ya. Some 80’s guy, Uncle Ronnie.

My son, Donald Paul, sent this to me and asked for exsposure for it.I don’t know who started this, but it is a good idea, and I will be blue on Fridays, from now on;

Very soon, you will see a great many people wearing blue every Friday. The reason? Americans who support our troops used to be called the ’silent majority’. We are no longer silent, and are voicing our love for God, country and home in record breaking numbers. We are not organized, boisterous or overbearing.

Many Americans, like you, me and all our friends, simply want to recognize that the vast majority of America supports our troops. Our idea of showing solidarity and support for our troops with dignity and respect starts this Friday — and continues each and every Friday until the troops all come home, sending a deafening message that every red-blooded American who supports our men and women afar, will wear something blue. By word of mouth, press, TV — let’s make the United States on every Friday a sea of blue much like a homecoming football game in the bleachers. If every one of us who loves this country will share this with acquaintances, coworkers, friends, and family, it will not be long before the USA is covered in BLUE and it will let our troops know the once ’silent’ majority is on their side more than ever, certainly more than the media lets on. The first thing a soldier says when asked ‘What can we do to make things better for you?’ is: ‘We need your support and your prayers.’ Let’s get the word out and lead with class and dignity, by example, and wear something blue every Friday

My son served in Iraq from March, to August in 2003 with the Third Infantry Division from Fort Hood, TX 
I couldn’t say no.

It’s just disgusting what I have just heard. Planned Parenthood in Indiana is giving out Christmas gift certificates for abortions.
This is disgusting.
At the time of year when we celebrate rebirth and life, these animals are promoting death. There are already going to be 6,000 babies in Indiana this year that will not celebrate the Christmas season this year because some misinformed mothers got abortions. Now Planned Parenthood is trying to get that number to grow for next year.
Being touted as an unusual but “practical” gift, these mass murderers are offering gift certificates in $25.00 increments for birth control, examinations, and abortion.
To quote PPIN President and CEO Betty Cockrum:
“Nearly 800,000 Hoosiers don’t have health insurance and can’t afford basic health services. Why not buy a loved one a gift this holiday season that they really need and one that will contribute to their health throughout the year?”
Yea, well what about the health of the baby? Don’t you care about the little ones health? Don’t the unborn babies get a chance to be healthy?
And if you get an abortion at Christmas time, what will you be feeling next year, when Christmas time comes around and you start to think about the “gifts” you don’t have to get, because of the one “special” gift that was given to you? I don’t think you can say it any other way, abortion IS murder.
Just plain Murder!!