And I got this. Dolly Parton.

Lee Greenwood has some thoughts.

Red Skelton has some thoughts on the flag they fought to protect.

And because I’m a Marl Levin fan, this.

And finally, John Wayne has something to say.

Sent to me from my sis, Diane.

Some of may have seen this already, so this is for those who havn’t.

I checked on snopes, and it said to be an actual letter written by the Law Student, John J Wall

The letter:

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DIVORCE AGREEMENT THIS IS SO INCREDIBLY WELL PUT AND I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE IT’S BY A YOUNG PERSON, A STUDENT! WHATEVER HE RUNS FOR, I’LL VOTE FOR HIM.

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al: We have stuck together since the late 1950′s for the sake of the kids, but the whole of the 2008 election process has made me realize that I want a divorce.

I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.

We’ll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind, solar and biodiesel. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.

We’ll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street.

You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps users, homeless, homeboys, hippies, druggies and illegal aliens.

We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks.

We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. –You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security. We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness and Shirley McLaine.

You can also have the U.N. but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We’ll keep the SUV’s, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We’ll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.

We’ll keep “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” and “The National Anthem.”I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute “Imagine”, “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing”, “Kum Ba Ya” or “We Are the World”.

We’ll practice trickle down economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.

Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete.

In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely, John J. Wall Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid with you.

P.S.S. And you won’t have to press 1 for English when you call our country.

________________________________________________________

Got to love this guy.

Do a search on YouTube, or your favorite website, (YouTube is easiest for me) for your favorite patriotic singer, song, speach, or video. I’ll go ahead and start with my own, as a comment, (I don’t know how to put one in a diary) and feel free to add whatever you want.

The rules are simple, patriotic themed song, speach, (I suspect some Reagan), or video. This is for us here at Red State, so lets have fun and show our patiotism.

Have a happy and safe 4th of July, and remember to watch out for the kids and keep them safe.

For those unfamiliar with YouTube embed, when you find what you want, click on “share”.

Then click on “embed”.

Then click on “use old embed code”, and make sure that is the only box selected in that column.

Make sure the small box underneath is highlighted, the 425×349, as it fits perfect. Copy the code in the box, and make sure it is all highlited, (it will start with “object width”, copy it, then paste it in the comment box.

If your song has already been posted, just post ditto or something as a reply. The same song by a different singer is ok with me, as everyone has thier own preferences, but the same song by the same singer would be lame.

Again, lets have a happy and safe 4th of July.

God Bless America.

Three different people go to the same dealership on the same day and all three buy identical cars.

After one thousand miles, they all come in for a checkup, all on the same day, 

to have the dealer look at it for any potential problems, and give an evaluation for the dealer.

The dealer asks the first one how he likes the car.

The owner states that the car runs fine. He sees no problem with it.

It’s not the best he has had, but is it more than acceptable to him.

No problems.

The dealer asks the second buyer how he likes his car.

The owner says that its the best he has ever driven.

He has not had a car so great. he wants to buy another one just like it when this one wears out.

He would recommend this car to all of his friends.

It’s just great.

The dealer asks the third buyer about his car.

The guy tells him it’s a piece of crap.

He tells him he can’t understand why he is selling cars that he thinks are worthless.

He wants his money back, but can’t get it.

He has bought the car.

While waiting in the dealers lounge to get their cars checked,

the three buyers start to talk to each other over coffee about their cars.

The buyer who thinks that his car is ok, can’t understand why

the other two don’t see what he sees.

He can’t see why the one thinks it’s great, and why the other thinks it’s crap.

The car is just fine.

The buyer that thinks his car is great thinks the other two are missing something he sees,

and just think the other two are to stupid or uninformed.

How can they not see how great this car is.

There must be something wrong with them, as they can’t see the obvious.

The buyer who thinks the car is crap knows for sure that the others have a screw loose.

And no matter how long and loud he tells the other two about what he sees wrong with the car,

he just can’t convince them, and starts to yell louder.

These other two are just ignoring the facts about this car.

The buyer that thinks his car is terrible can’t understand why

the other two can’t see that the car is crap.

Three different buyers, and all have exactly the same car,

driven the same amount of miles.

Three very different opinions of buyers with the exact same car from the same dealer.

No one of them can change the mind of the other two.

It just seems hopeless to even try.

Now just put Sarah Palin in place of the car,

and you can see where we are at with her.

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Correctly attributed, per Snopes.com

  I’m 63. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but job-hunting every day, I’ve worked, hard, since I was 18. Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven’t called in sick in seven or eight years. I make a good salary, but I didn’t inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there’s no retirement in sight, and I’m tired. Very tired.  

 I’m tired of being told that I have to “spread the wealth” to people who don’t have my work ethic. I’m tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it.  

 I’m tired of being told that I have to pay more taxes to “keep people in their homes.”  Sure, if they lost their jobs or got sick, I’m willing to help. But if they bought McMansions at three times the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on one-third of my salary, then let the left-wing Congress-critters who passed Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act that created the bubble help them with their own money.  

 I’m tired of being told how bad America is by left-wing millionaires like Michael Moore, George Soros and Hollywood Entertainers who live in luxury because of the opportunities America offers. In thirty years, if they get their way, the United States will have the economy of Zimbabwe, the freedom of the press of China, the crime and violence of Mexico, the tolerance for Christian people of Iran, and the freedom of speech of Venezuela.

 I’m tired of being told that Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family “honor”; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren’t “believers”; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for “adultery”; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur’an and Sharia law tells them to.  

 I’m tired of being told that “race doesn’t matter” in the post-racial world of Obama, when it’s all that matters in affirmative action jobs, lower college admission and graduation standards for minorities (harming them the most), government contract set-asides, tolerance for the ghetto culture of violence and fatherless children that hurts minorities more than anyone, and in the appointment of U.S. Senators from Illinois.  

 I think it’s very cool that we have a black president and that a black child is doing her homework at the desk where Lincoln wrote the Emancipation Proclamation. I just wish the black president was Condi Rice, or someone who believes more in freedom and the individual and less arrogantly of an all-knowing government.  

 I’m tired of a news media that thinks Bush’s fundraising and inaugural expenses were obscene, but that think Obama’s, at triple the cost, were wonderful; that thinks Bush exercising daily was a waste of presidential time, but Obama exercising is a great example for the public to control weight and stress; that picked over every line of Bush’s military records, but never demanded that Kerry release his; that slammed Palin, with two years as governor, for being too inexperienced for VP, but touted Obama with three years as senator as potentially the best president ever. Wonder why people are dropping their subscriptions or switching to Fox News? Get a clue. I didn’t vote for Bush in 2000, but the media and Kerry drove me to his camp in 2004.  

 I’m tired of being told that out of “tolerance for other cultures” we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund mosques and mandrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in America, while no American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance.  

 I’m tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate. My wife and I live in a two-bedroom apartment and carpool together five miles to our jobs. We also own a  three-bedroom condo where our daughter and granddaughter live. Our carbon footprint is about 5% of Al Gore’s, and if you’re greener than Gore, you’re green enough.  

 I’m tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I don’t think Gay people choose to be Gay, but I damn sure think druggies chose to take drugs. And I’m tired of harassment from cool people treating me like a freak when I tell them I never tried marijuana.  

 I’m tired of illegal aliens being called “undocumented workers,” especially the ones who aren’t working, but are living on welfare or crime. What’s next?  Calling drug dealers, “Undocumented Pharmacists”?  And, no,  I’m not against Hispanics. Most of them are Catholic, and it’s been a few hundred years since Catholics wanted to kill me for my religion.  I’m willing to fast track for citizenship any Hispanic person, who can speak English, doesn’t have a criminal record and who is self-supporting without family on welfare, or who serves honorably for three years in our military…. Those are the citizens we need.  

 I’m tired of latte liberals and journalists, who would never wear the uniform of the Republic themselves, or let their entitlement-handicapped kids near a recruiting station, trashing our military. They and their kids can sit at home, never having to make split-second decisions under life and death circumstances, and bad mouth better people than themselves. Do bad things happen in war? You bet. Do our troops sometimes misbehave?  Sure. Does this compare with the atrocities that were the policy of our enemies for the last fifty years and still are? Not even close.  So here’s the deal. I’ll let myself be subjected to all the humiliation and abuse that was heaped on terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, and the critics can let themselves be subject to captivity by the Muslims, who tortured and beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, or the Muslims who tortured and murdered Marine Lt. Col. William Higgins in Lebanon, or the Muslims who ran the blood-spattered Al Qaeda torture rooms our troops found in Iraq, or the Muslims who cut off the heads of schoolgirls in Indonesia, because the girls were Christian. Then we’ll compare notes. British and American soldiers are the only troops in history that civilians came to for help and handouts, instead of hiding from in fear.  

 I’m tired of people telling me that their party has a corner on virtue and the other party has a corner on corruption. Read the papers; bums are bipartisan. And I’m tired of people telling me we need bipartisanship. I live in  Illinois , where the “Illinois Combine” of Democrats has worked to loot the public for years. Not to mention the tax cheats in Obama’s cabinet.  

 I’m tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of both parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I’m tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.  

 Speaking of poor, I’m tired of hearing people with air-conditioned homes, color TVs and two cars called poor. The majority of Americans didn’t have that in 1970, but we didn’t know we were “poor.” The poverty pimps have to keep changing the definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing.  

 I’m real tired of people who don’t take responsibility for their lives and actions. I’m tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems.  

 Yes, I’m damn tired. But I’m also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I’m not going to have to see the world these people are making. I’m just sorry for my granddaughter  

 Robert  A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts  State  Senate.

 With the elections coming up, people keep telling me how we can get the  conservatives we want elected, and  It usually comes down to “my way is better than yours.There  are a lot of good ideas out there,  but too many people think their ideas are the only good ones.                                                                                   By no way is this a guide for what to do, but rather to look at and consider  other’s ideas on how to go about  getting  the people we want elected.In some states, you have to do certain  things to win elections  that might not work in other states.                                                                                                            Same problem, different approaches. 

First, the reason why I wrote this in the first place.

When I worked for TRW, I came across kind of the same problem while working on the SCB (Stability Control Braking)  system.

The project was stalled because no one could agree on exactly which course of action to take or what to do to further the project along.

Conflicting ideas.  This happens when everyone is the smartest in the room.

This story  came to mind, which  I wrote,  and  presented this to the other engineers.

After reading this, and with some wrangling about it,  the project proceeded, only because the other engineers had finally considered the other ideas from the group, agreed to combine some of the ideas,  and the braking system finally got  developed and will be put into cars starting in 2011.

It showed that although all ideas are not good, but all are not bad either.

And so for your consideration;

 THE STICK

Four men who were  students  were asked by their Taskmaster to do a chore for him.

The Taskmaster drew a large square on the ground in front of each of the men, and told them each to build a “stick” in their square.

The first man thought for a minute, as you would imagine, and then drew a stick in his square.

The second man went about getting different pieces of sticks and proceeded to literally  “build” a stick, and when completed, placed it  in his square.

The third man went and found  a stick that had fallen from a tree, and then placed it in his square.

The forth man went and got the seed of a strong and tall Oak tree, planted it in his square,

watered it, and said he was done.

In anticipation, all four men looked at their Taskmaster with eyes inquiring as to who had done the better.

In seeing the expressions on their  faces, he shook his head, and slowly explained to them that all had done equally well.

The first, he said, had done the task as he perceived it.  He had looked in his mind and found a stick.

The second had took the taskmaster literally, and found the pieces to actually build a stick.

The third man had found the simplest solution to the problem, found a stick, and presented it as built.  

The fourth man, having a knowledge of where sticks  come from, took a practical solution to the problem and was going to grow  a stick.

Although all four men had the same problem,  each had their own solution.

No one person had the best  solution,  and each solution  was as adequate as the others

to the question.

Some sticks are imaginary.

Some sticks are parts.

Some sticks are whole.

Some sticks are in the future.

All are parts of the same  stick.

Monday, February 21, 2005

By  G. E. K

When Building a Dam

If you can bring a large rock for the dam,

that will help get the dam built.

If you bring a few pebbles for the dam,

That too will help get the dam built.

Does it really matter who brings what and how much they bring?

The dam still gets built.

And when building a conservative dam to stop the flood of liberalism,

Every piece of rock helps.

Gekster

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who
has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was,
since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.

He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:
- Knowing when to come in out of the rain;
- Why the early bird gets the worm;
- Life isn’t always fair; and maybe it was my fault.

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don’t spend more
than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in
charge).

His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but
overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy
charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended
from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for
reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.

Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the
job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly
children. It declined even further when schools were required to get
parental consent to administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student;
but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted
to have an abortion.

Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses;
and criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense
took a beating when you couldn’t defend yourself from a burglar in your
own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.

Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to
realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot… She spilled a little in
her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement. Common Sense was
preceded in death, by his parents, Truth and Trust, by his wife,
Discretion, by his daughter, Responsibility, and by his son, Reason.

He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers:
I Know My Rights, I Want It Now, Someone Else Is To Blame, and I’m A
Victim.

Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone. If
you still remember him, say a prayer. If not, join the majority and do
nothing.

Just a comment on how things appear.  Not a political statement!

 Dear President Obama:

I’m planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.
We’re planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. Into Mexico, and we’ll need your help to make a few  arrangements.
We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.
I’m sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I’m on my way over?

Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. Please print all Mexican government forms in English.

4. I want my grandkids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.

5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my grandkids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.

7. Please plan to feed my grandkids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

 8. I will need a local Mexican driver’s license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico, but, I don’t plan to purchase car insurance,
    and I probably won’t make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.

 10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to
     leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.

 11. I plan to fly the U.S. Flag from my house top, put U S. Flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

 12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.

 13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never
     say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.

 14. I want to receive free food stamps.

 15. Naturally, I’ll expect free rent subsidies.

 16. I’ll need Income tax credits so although I don’t pay Mexican Taxes,
       I’ll receive money from the government.

 17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Gov’t pays $4,500 to help me buy a new car.

 18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I’ll get
       a monthly income in retirement.

 I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to  the U..S. From  Mexico. I am sure that President Calderon won’t mind returning the favor if you ask him  nicely.                                                                                                                                                              Thank you so much for your kind help. You’re the man!!!
Have a nice day

I was going to post this on an open thread, but thought it should stand alone.

I will not publicly endorse or support candidates for the simple fact that some might vote for those who I say so, or vote against those because of who I say so.

Your choice should not be influenced by mine.

Don’t take my word for what I say, as you shouldn’t with any one,
Don’t take politicians at thier word, but what they do.

Project Vote Smart informs you to just that.
I have found that this website is almost as accurate as Rush, (99.5%).

I promote Project Vote Smart for it’s simple facts, of the facts.

Home web site here:

http://www.votesmart.org/index.htm

On the Home Page, at the left is all you need.
type in the last name of your Senator, or Representative, and you can get most of all of thier politicaly professional history.
You can go to voting record and see where these politicians actually stand on issues.

Issue Positions
(political courage test),
Can tell you a lot of someone.

Please explore.
This site is totally informative.

Disclaimer: I have no afiliation with Vote Smart Project.
I just think it’s good enough to tell you about it.

And I know not of the date.

It seems People from other countries can see America more clearly than we ourselves can.

You probably missed this in the rush of news, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan  had published in a newspaper, an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.

So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let everyone know what an American is . So they would know when they found one. (Good one, mate!!!!) 

‘An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish , Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani or Afghan.

An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans.

An American is Christian , or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims i n America than in   Afghanistan.The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses.

An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God. 

An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the world. 
 The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence , which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.

An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return.
When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country!
As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan .
The national symbol of America , The Statue of Liberty , welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, temp est tossed. These in fact are the people who built America 
Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11 , 2001 earning a better life for their families. It’s been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.
 So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo , and Stalin , and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirsty tyrants in the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself . Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.

I am on RedState because I find honest debate on this site. People are allowed, as per conservatism, to express thier opinions here, and get honest, rhetorical response.
Inspite of this, I have a rant

I recently commented on an article by
toni100,
Time is Running Out for Marine Widow Hota Ferschke – Your Help Is Needed.

It is the plight of a child and mother of a solder who was killed in action.
The post was mainly about how this solders wife by proxy was having a hard time with the status of her and her childs imigration.
I commented how illeagle immigrants get everything, and this particular widow was having a hard time getting benifits from our Government.
After re-reading, as I often do, I found out that this child was born on a US military base.
I made the comment that this baby, like John McCain, was also born on a militatry base, and could possibly be President of the USA.
In jest, wich no one took as jest, was that if Obama was Kenyan, as stated by some, then this child also could be president.

Then it started:
——, made this reply:
—— Wednesday, October 14th at 6:01AM EDT
It’s rude, crude, and utterly self-centered to your belief that Obama is not a U.S. citizen which should have had nothing at all to do with this diary.
He made this comment and I was accussed of threadjacking.
I was not talking about discrediting Obama, as much as I was trying to say that maybe this particular child, as any born with US citizenship, could be President.

My reply to his comment was natural, as if someone was jumping on me.

My reply:
Aside from offending you, prove hes not a Kenyen.
Show me the birth certificate

That opened the slam.
We are ready to pounce on those we deem week.
Some people are just ready to slam anyone they can. They’re just looking for something, anything, I guesse.

It was then posted by——-:
Another birther needs the boot…nt.
———Wednesday, October 14th at 12:13PM EDT

I had now became a birther.
I don’t know how. I made a off-hand remark about Obama and now became a “birther”.
I didn’t know this, but I was at that moment also linked to the 9/11ers.

I asked of ——-:

I’m curious as to why you think that I should be booted
gekster Wednesday, October 14th at 12:48PM EDT
I don’t consider myself a “birther”.Just someone who wants to know the truth.
I’m not advocating Obama be removed from office for not showing a valid birth cirtificate.
I just want to know the truth.
It seems you don’t agree with me. Why give me the boot.
Because you don’t agree with the valid cirtificate thing.
At the recent RS gathering, when a speaker suggested that in the state of Georgia a law be passed that if someone runs for President in the state of Georgia that they have to produce a valid US birth cirtificate.
It got a rousing round of applause from the group.
Are they all birthers too, or just people who want the laws of this country upheld,
up to and including the Federal laws.
Eric applauded. Is he a birther also..
you want to boot him too?

No reply from –, but some other idiot just had to jump in:

Gekstercraft is a birther??
——– Wednesday, October 14th at 12:51PM EDT (link)
who knew?

Blam

I got the blam from him. Some friend.
And the name is gekster.

From ——, he’s here implying that I’m an idiot”.

Scoot your chair closer, little one.

—— Wednesday, October 14th at 1:09PM EDT (link)
Barack Obama is the President of these United States. He was duly elected by the Electoral College of the States.

There is no requirement that anyone have a birth certificate, even to seek the Presidency. There is a contemporaneous account of his birth found in a local newspaper. His family says he was born here. The President of the United States said, as a U. S. Senator, under penalty of perjury (which would put him in jail), that he was born here. The State of Hawaii says he was born here. Any one of those things would be good enough for me. All of them put together make for an impenetrable case.

See you on some other site.

He thinks I am gone at this point and have been banned.

to molify him, I said
I’ll accept your explanation, I can learn
gekster Wednesday, October 14th at 1:21PM EDT (link)
I’m not going to push it to the point of insanity.
I see that its a touchy subject to some here.
I’ll drop it now

Yeh. Some get realy angry if you say something they don’t like.
I don’t see why, except this is a lighting rod point to get some people peeved for no reason.

Then I got this:

It’s not about what you believe.
——– Wednesday, October 14th at 1:35PM EDT (link)

I’ve tried my best to give you ‘birthers’ some leeway but you hijacked a diary that had absolutely nothing to do with Obama to plug your silly conspiracy theory and that is what is rude, crude, self-centered.

So now what I believe doesm’t mater to someone who doesn’t know what “I” believe.
I didn’t know I was plugging a conspiricy theory.
I made one hap-ass remark,and now i’m getting this.
I did learn about the thread jack thing though.
the next comment was from –.
Well…
– Wednesday, October 14th at 2:05PM EDT (link)
A) Don’t threadjack
B) Birthers need not comment here. I’m sure there’s a conspiracy theory site out there somewhere that will meet your needs.

My final words on this thread

gekster Wednesday, October 14th at 2:56PM EDT (link)
I now know what contemporaneous means.
Yes, I had to look it up.And although I thought I knew before, I now also know what a “thread jack” is.
I will not knowingly do it again.
Thanks for your patience and instruction.

I was just going to leave this alone and hoped it went away, but then I today while I was perusing RS,
I read from 10/9 where someone was actually promoting the “birther movement”.
I did not see a comment from:
——,
——-,
——or ——r,
to this other person.
No one calling for a Blam.
I make one half-ass remark and some of you are ready to throw me to the wolves,
or at least to the lefties.

I’ve been on this site for 1 year now.
I have gone astray some times, but have seen my errors and try to stick to the debate.
I have banned myself from this site because of conduct unbecoming of a gekster.
I am human, I make mistakes like most humans and as such can learn.
Instead of making a teaching moment as to which we can learn, you all were ready to throw me out.
Do you hold yourself to the same judgement?
The misinterpretation of what I ment from some on this site jumped as bad as Rush and the Rams.

You’ll have to throw me to the wolves, I’m not going because you don’t like the debate.
And ——- I sat next to you at the RSG.
I am anything but “little”.

I see I have gone astray again. I will not do it again. I am still in the learning process.
Teach me in the ways of RS. I am willing to learn.

Catching Wild Pigs

A chemistry professor in a large college had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab the Professor noticed one young man (exchange student) who kept rubbing his back, and stretching as if his back hurt.

The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country’s government and install a new communist government.

In the midst of his story he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked, ‘Do you know how to catch wild pigs?’

The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said this was no joke. ‘You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat a gain. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.

Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.

The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening to America . The government keeps pushing us toward socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc..
While we continually lose our freedoms — just a little at a time.
author opinion:
One should always remember: There is no such thing as a free lunch! Also, a politician will never provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.

Also, I hope you see that all of this wonderful government ‘help’ is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America . God help you when the gate slams shut!

Keep your eyes on the newly elected politicians who are about to slam the gate on America .

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have”

Thomas Jefferson
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I hope you enjoyed this and understand what it is I’m trying to convey.
Liberals are trying to build the fence,
Conservatives are trying to tear it down.
You are on one side or the other, and there should be no stradling here.
If you are a moderate, no matter which party, then you are a stradler.
You put your finger out to the wind to see which way you are going today.
At least have enough guts to pick a side.
McCain was a straddler. That’s one reason he lost.
What make Sarah Palin so popular is she is on the tear down this fence side.
Didn’t someone else say tear down this fence?
Oh ya. Some 80’s guy, Uncle Ronnie.

Very soon, you will see a great many people wearing blue every Friday. The reason? Americans who support our troops used to be called the ‘silent majority’. We are no longer silent, and are voicing our love for God, country and home in record breaking numbers. We are not organized, boisterous or overbearing.

Many Americans, like you, me and all our friends, simply want to recognize that the vast majority of America supports our troops. Our idea of showing solidarity and support for our troops with dignity and respect starts this Friday — and continues each and every Friday until the troops all come home, sending a deafening message that every red-blooded American who supports our men and women afar, will wear something blue. By word of mouth, press, TV — let’s make the United States on every Friday a sea of blue much like a homecoming football game in the bleachers. If every one of us who loves this country will share this with acquaintances, coworkers, friends, and family, it will not be long before the USA is covered in BLUE and it will let our troops know the once ‘silent’ majority is on their side more than ever, certainly more than the media lets on. The first thing a soldier says when asked ‘What can we do to make things better for you?’ is: ‘We need your support and your prayers.’ Let’s get the word out and lead with class and dignity, by example, and wear something blue every Friday

My son served in Iraq from March, to August in 2003 with the Third Infantry Division from Fort Hood, TX 
I couldn’t say no.