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Good news. Rick Santorum and the Values Voters will not “die a metaphorically violent death” but are here to stay.

“We’ve been deluged by hundreds of pathetic posts defending Rick Santorum’s “conservatism.  Thankfully his campaign has been suspended and don’t have to read that stupid crap anymore.  There is talk of “Santorum ’16″ but after today that claptrap will hopefully die a metaphorically violent death.”

Besides such a juvenile ranting as what I quoted above, this particular “gem” also contained more trash which I will not cite here.

Clearly there will  be no letup in the whining, insults and bellyaching even after Rick Santorum suspended his campaign.  Any statement he makes, any appearance in the news, generates a cacophony of more load moans, whining, complaints and what sounds like eerie nail scratching on a chalkboard.

The “writer” (ranter would be more accurate) employed constant use of such “persuasive” language – little more than juvenile catcalls – to describe their opinion of our conservative candidate such as “stupid crap” and “claptrap.”

Nope, I have bad news for the children who talk/write like that: Rick Santorum and those who supported him are not going to “die a metaphorically violent death.”

The above quote and lead in is not a description of the rhetoric directed at us RED STATERS and us conservatives/Christians from Daily Kos, Media Matters, Huff Post or any of the other liberal left, secular-left, anti-Christian hate sites funded in many instances by George Soros.

This shocking anti-conservative diatribe or rant was lifted from a recent column right here at RED STATE.

The book I like to read suggests you can tell the tree by the fruit – and if that doesn’t sound like leftwing trash then you haven’t been visiting leftwing websites or else you have, and you are lying about it.

I know that during the recent GOP primary we’ve seen a lot of pretty strong rhetoric directed at each of the candidates, particularly as each had a brief turn as the “flavor of the week”.

If you listened to some of this stuff and took it too seriously, NO ONE who was offered as a candidate, has any chance of defeating Barack Obama, and NO ONE running at any time, was any different from Barack Obama.

They are all bad, they are all the same, they all have fatal flaws, and they all have no chance.

And those “telling” us this were of course, mostly on the left, the pretend “fair and balanced” news media and by a few from within our own ranks, who were (are) either over zealous, over worked up, took too many energy drinks or caffeine, or who are liberals posing as conservatives.

I just cited what is surely considered a clever “argument” right here on Red State just a few days ago by someone claiming to be a conservative (as one would suppose, writing here), who simply detests Rick Santorum and it would appear, any of us who dissent from their “sure sounds like a hard core leftist to me” rhetoric.

In the case of the offering I cite above, the supposed excuse to launch a fresh new round of trashing of Rick Santorum was the supposition that the one true conservative (is anyone else besides me tired of all the politicians making this claim – except Richard Lugar – whose honesty is a rare trait in a politician, ie. I had never heard of him claiming this mantle) in the race for a Senate seat in Nebraska was the one that Santorum did NOT endorse.

(I want to be clear: in a contest between Rick Santorum and Erick Erickson’s endorsement for a candidate, while I would listen respectfully to the rationale of both, my advance-inclination would be to follow the Erickson recommendation – but without any urge to insult Rick Santorum. In the case of the Nebraska US Senate race I offer no opinion except the aforementioned.)

Geez folks.  Do we still have to listen to this sort of personal insult and caterwauling?  Can’t we just dissent from the Santorum endorsement in Nebraska without using it as an excuse for a fresh new round of junk?

Isn’t it about time to give it a rest?  Mercy.

Such rhetoric will not persuade either Rick Santorum or a single one of his followers to stop or depart the political process, and only serves as an irritant, and something which will drive people away from any party making such unbecoming howling and pathetic whining.

Next I suppose we’ll be seeing a series of articles about poor lovestruck Ann Coulter who thinks the Governor of New Jersey should have been the GOP nominee for President, and more recently that he should be VP?

After all, most conservatives I know think that Governor Chris Christie is too liberal for them, despite some fascinating riposte on his part over the past year.

So therefore should we entertain a motion that Ann Coulter is a liberal, she stinks, we should burn all of her books, we should spit when we hear her name, perhaps burn her in effigy?

Can’t we simply dissent from something that one of our advocates says and with which we disagree, without claiming that they are now evil incarnate and should be driven out of politics and that they should  now “die a metaphorically violent death” as a result of your (or our) disagreement with something they said or did?

Enough of the juvenile name calling and childish temper tantrums.

A typical rotten-tomato throw is the epithet “neo-con” hurled at conservatives, usually as a dead giveaway that the accuser is a fan of Ron Paul.  I’ve yet to see any sensible definition of what the term means to the accuser – only that in context it must be a very bad thing to be accused of that.

Am I wrong?

Have you ever read an explanation as to why we old time Reaganites ought to have kicked original neo-cons Jeanne Kirkpatrick and Senator Henry Scoop Jackson out of the ranks of cold-war allies to our President fighting to defend America against a “clear and present danger” to our existence?

Have you ever yet read an explanation as to why movement conservatives who in the past had allied from time to time with liberals on national defense issues, should all be thrown overboard as wicked, evil, nasty “neo-cons”?

It truly reveals far more about the person who hurls around such juvenile attempts to smear conservatives than it does about the person or group they have targeted.

Red State regulars have seen some of that sort of frantic rhetoric directed at former Governor Sarah Palin from people who claim to be “good conservatives” and our fellow RED STATERS who seem to always get very exorcised at the mere mention of her name, let alone any of us suggesting that there are many things to admire and appreciate about the former Alaska Governor and GOP VP nominee.

Again, the howling and whining about Sarah Palin have not deterred the lady from building a twitter and Facebook following larger than all the candidates who ran for the GOP nomination this past year, combined.

Truly, Rick Santorum and his followers may be emboldened by the insults to follow Sarah Palin’s example: success is the best revenge and he who builds our cause larger, has the last laugh.

But no.  The Sarah Palin critics – mostly on the left but a few water carriers within our ranks – love to trot out anything the lady ever did wrong or was ever accused of and once again, the frantic rhetoric would sound like it had been lifted right off the pages of Daily Kos (et. al.) diatribe or from a Rachel Maddow broadcast.  And you can count on this anytime she has been in the news.

The article in question which I take the floor to criticize today was posted a few days ago as a new “trashing” of Rick Santorum, and was given extra long life by its placement in the “Recommended” section.

The article contained not one new thing or news item but simply used the excuse of Santorum endorsing the “wrong” candidate in a GOP primary (a ‘fact” disputed by others in the comment thread that followed), to regurgitate all of the leftist, anti-Christian, anti-conservative accusations against Santorum plus a variety of the talking points from the Ron Paul for President campaign.

I wish to register my polite demur to such extension of life for a RED STATE offering which should have been allowed to die a nice quiet death, albeit the half dozen or so who can be reliably counted on to cheer loudly (Bronx cheer?) any attack on Christian/values voters would seem to preclude a totally silent sinking beneath the cesspool waters where such trash belongs.

And yes I did say the rather unChristian characterization of the article as trash, which does not do credit to Red State to have been placed in the “recommended” status.

It is not exactly clever, to simply throw around such trash talk and hang your hat on a rationale for this fresh new round of attack on Rick Santorum, that he endorsed the “wrong” candidate in a primary.

We know that for the rest of their lives, anything that Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, Michele Malkin, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich do, will cause a veritable eruption of trash and refuse coming at them from every leftwing 2nd floor window in America.

But are we really going to have to listen to this silliness here on these pages also?  May I appeal to the editors to please consider allowing such vicious, personal and fact-devoid attacks on people who have earned a following among our ranks of dedicated conservatives (such as Rick Santorum) to die a natural death by leaving them ignored in the future, instead of giving them extra life?

I don’t mind in the slightest that we conservatives do not always agree.  In addition to the “three legs” of the conservative cause we also have differences based on personal preferences, and we are also sometimes influenced by someone we admire, endorsing a particular candidate (though I wonder: did Ann Coulter ever convince anyone for Chris Christie, after all those articles & appearances on Sean Hannity’s show?).

I do not think it is an appropriate way to build fellowship and community, to build our army larger, by such trash talk as the article I read and here write to object to.

It isn’t a matter of whether you Dear Reader, agree with my support of Rick Santorum, or if you were for Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich.

Clearly the majority of movement-oriented conservatives, which does include (despite their hatred of them) the leaders of the values-voter crowd, once known as the Christian right, were for NOT ROMNEY whether they were for Perry, Santorum, Gingrich, Palin, Cain, Bachmann.

The issue I raise here, is my belief that we “sin by silence” but should instead object, when someone is so rude as to insult and hurl such juvenile rantings in our midst to any of these candidates and those who supported any of them during the primary.

In summary, and knowing that a half dozen (at most) irate, anti-values voter activists here will sound off and if this offering receives some “Facebook likes” will pounce with a fresh round of insults, strawman arguments, trash-talk, ad hominum attacks, etc.

Nonetheless, we soldier on with this proposition:

For our cause to prosper, a modicum of mutual respect and affection by those who accept certain fundamentals about our cause and why we are alarmed about the prospects of our socialist adversaries, is in order.

Barack Obama is a socialist (or a very good pretender) who appointed two of the most far-left members of the U.S. Supreme Court, has staffed his administration with the most far-left activists he could find, and has filled our radio, TV, newspaper and internet spaces with the most far-left socialist rhetoric that any of us have heard in our lifetime.

Those of us who recognize the danger of an even more unrestrained “flexible” second term, should and must recognize that in spite of any differences we may have, our highest priority should be to focus our limited firepower to the front, and not into our own flanks.

Those shooting wounded conservatives on the battlefield, with special focus on the ones who are Christian, ought to be given a rather loud and cheerful raspberry.  For the battle still rages, and the enemy is there, to the far-left, they still outnumber us, and we have precious little ammunition to waste shooting our own.

As for the future of Rick Santorum and those for whom he spoke, I have especially bad news for those who ape the rhetoric of the far left here on the pages of Red State.

You won’t be rid of Rick Santorum or his folks because they will, with or without Mitt Romney’s encouragement, regardless of whether the Romney management follows your advise and attempts to emulate Gerald Ford’s failed attempt to marginalize Ronald Reagan and his followers in 1976, carry on.

They have the issues, the larger mailing lists, a larger following and determination to carry on, and the sick-sounding criticism of the far-left and you who ally with them in assaulting “values voters” here at Red State, will avail you naught.

The idea of right and wrong is not about to be banished as an idea ripe for political discussion.

Those who believe the American founding fathers had it right when they were inspired by their Christian beliefs to found this Republic, grow stronger even as your insults and desperate, juvenile attacks, persist.

Those who believe with Rick Santorum that the John F. Kennedy of 1960 and you are wrong to attempt to banish Christians and their ideas from the political process will lose.

Those of us who believe with Rick Santorum that the “centrality of faith” in our life is a key both to happy living here and to eternal salvation, will continue, and indeed be strengthened by the desperate attacks on our core beliefs and on those who champion our cause.

We will be emboldened and encouraged by the desperate, childish attacks and in the end, we will have the last laugh.  “If not here” (and we believe it will be here), “then in eternity.”

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HanoverHenry of RED STATE is Pat Henry on Facebook, and I’m on the lookout for new friends there. You can also communicate via private mail at Facebook, and I welcome new sources for my articles focusing on the conservative-Christian viewpoint in Pennsylvania.  I appreciate your sharing this article elsewhere and only ask that you include this “disclaimer” in any reprints or sharing you do (if this is reprinted on any other website, that is).  And I thank those whose information have helped me with some of my reports, including those who do not wish to be quoted by name.

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COMMENTS

  • mikeymike143

    the amount of states won by all other candidates not named romney is 2. nuff said.

    and speaking of sarah palin, her endorsement of richard mourdock was a big help in that race. and she just came out and endorsed ted cruz. i think we may see a runoff in texas betwen the rick perry endorsed dewhurst and the sarah palin endorsed cruz. dewhurst is still the favorite but conservative groups are lining up to support cruz.

    • https://www.facebook.com/HanoverHenry hanoverhenry

      … for Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich and others, is exactly the sort of campaigning you describe. I do not know who the “true conservative” is in Texas but I know some good people who I like, had supported Rick Perry before he withdrew. And many good people wanted Sarah Palin to run and would have supported her. The point of my article – and what I think we agree on – is that we ought not to let that run for President or someone’s endorsement of a particular candidate, cause us to say some of the rude and even downright hostile stuff I’ve seen from people who claim to be conservative. That seems to be business as usual on the left but should be frowned on by us, however we might disagree with some actions of a candidate like Rick Santorum. Like most of those who supported him I was late coming to that view, and never regarded him as the perfect candidate.

  • J. Leg

    I didn’t read through your entire diary. But from reading the first few paragraphs I can kind of predict what it’s going to be about.

    I greatly appreciate your defense of Gov. Sarah Palin, whom I think gets undeservedly dumped on from all corners of the political spectrum and who I think we’d be in much better shape with were she running for president.

    But Rick Santorum is not a true conservative. He’s a loud mouthed social conservative who holds more moderate fiscal and law and order views than Rudy Guiliani.

    Yes, I believe taken as a whole Rudy Guiliani is more conservative than Rick Santorum.

    I don’t mind social conservatives (hell, I’m 70% a social conservative), but Santorum’s brand of social conservatism is very damaging in the long term: regularly comparing gays to zoophiles, pedophiles, and polygamists is extreme, very extreme. Younger voters are growing more and more tolerant of gays and lesbians. You may not like that, but it’s the honest to God truth.

    I think there’s room for social conservatism on the issue, but you’ve got to work out how it’s argued. Santorum just sounds like a jerk when he talks about that stuff.

    • civil truth

      …rather than have responded to what you predict it would say. That would have been informed dissent. Or else you just have passed on in silence to other diaries if you didn’t like where this one was going. But what you did falls between the two stools and leaves you with egg on your face.

    • https://www.facebook.com/HanoverHenry hanoverhenry

      …I was not sure what you meant by that one… Sarah Palin doesn’t get “dumped on by all corners of the political spectrum.” It is the extreme left that acts crazed. Ann Coulter in fact, spoke of their crazy behavior as “Demonic” in naming one of her books. She documented it splendidly. The point is not whether you think Rick Santorum has been the perfect or “a true conservative.” I do not know what your definition is, but it is beside the point. Enough people thought he was MORE conservative than Mitt Romney that he won 11 state primaries and did very well, especially considering that he started so late and had so many disadvantages. I’ll have to smile and grin a bit as I take exception to your rather unique view that Rudy Guiliani is “more conservative” than Rick Santorum. You may be right. But if you are right, you will be about the only one in the GOP who thinks so. If only it were a contest between your man Guiliani and Rick Santorum, then Rick would have lost very few primaries, with or without a lot of money.

      What you seem not to understand is that – as I have written and documented in the past – Santorum spoke to all of the issues of concern to conservatives but unlike some of the other candidates, he did not censor out the the subject of his faith. It is totally incorrect to suggest all of those things you say he believes in. You are simply substituting your own views of what you imagine him to believe, and placing that here as if he’d said it.

      It is the talk of “he sounds like a jerk” and the much worse stuff that I wrote to object to. Every one of the candidates has said something that most of us would disagree with, or said something silly or a mistake. The level of vitriol we see directed at Rick Santorum may alone be how you know he is the “most true” conservative of anyone. It is not whether one is successful at avoiding controversy that makes one a conservative. It is not whether the character assassins of the far-left work over our candidate that determines whether he is a “true conservative.” Say what you want but it is the “jerk” and personal attacks that I wrote to object to. That is what sounds childish, juvenile and which we should all object to.

      Your theory that Santorum is “extreme, very extreme” is of course, an exact echo of what the radical left has said about consistent conservatives for many decades. In fact if they don’t say that about a candidate you have to ask, are they really conservative?

      The young voters you are speaking of love Obama because he “gave” them free insurance until age 27 – ie. he ordered their parents to pay for it. There’s a lot of things about younger voters – such as their willingness to accept such handouts – that I do not like and you are right, that is “the honest to God truth.” But then, Rick Santorum’s speaking like that – saying God’s name the way you just did, is what got him into all that “trouble” with some folks.

      So we’ll just wait to see “how it’s argued” and that is indeed, the central point I’d say, for the near future. Indeed. Thanks for writing.

  • http://nextgenerationvoters.com Bethany

    that he isn’t going anywhere anytime soon :) I had the opportunity to speak with him on the campaign trail and I certainly owe some of my eagerness to be involved to him. He definitely encouraged me greatly. Santorum is a Conservative who realizes that morals and values need to be deemed important once again if we want to succeed. If he runs in 2016…oh my :) haters are always gonna hate!

    • https://www.facebook.com/HanoverHenry hanoverhenry

      … and your story (with all due respect to Julia … which is to say, none…) – - the “life of Bethany” illustrates the point I’d tried to make. There are many, many thousands of people who were brought into the political process by Rick Santorum, and rather than attempting to discourage them as I objected to here, it would be to our advantage to say to them GREAT TO HEAR THAT BETHANY…. and sorry your first choice for President didn’t work out this time but you hang in there, help us this year with Romney and perhaps your candidate will try again further down the road… he made some very good points this campaign, and will no doubt play a continuing role in 2012 and in saving America from another Barack Obama term… we need him and we need you in this battle … And that’s my view of what people ought to be saying to Rick Santorum and his supporters, not the negative junk I objected to.

      • http://nextgenerationvoters.com Bethany

        I’m planning on working on some local races this year. Definitely not stopping even though Santorum dropped out, although I’m looking very forward to 2016.. :)

  • keepcoolwithcoolidge

    As someone I can already tell I would disagree with politically on a lot of issues, I first want to say that I think you are 100% right when you say “the danger of an even more unrestrained ‘flexible’ second term, should and must recognize that in spite of any differences we may have, our highest priority should be to focus our limited firepower to the front, and not into our own flanks.”

    Obama is harming our country. His appointment of Kagan to the Supreme Court with her absolute lack of qualified experience reeks of cronyism.. His dirty dealings with Lightsquared, Solyndra, and a host of other private companies stinks of corporatism . His ignorance of the economy is frustrating (He admitted yesterday he sometimes forgets the magnitude of the recession. The Executive Branch has become a Jay Leno’s perpetual opening monologue: Secret Service and GSA scandals, gun-walking, Verilli not even able to articulate a limiting principle for Obamacare, more quantatative easing, etc. He bullys the Supreme Court when they do their job, he touts flawed BLS unemployment data to pretend we’re recovering, he says no to instant pipeline jobs, he dictatorially declares Congress in recess to ram through appointments, and he promotes uncertainty in the economy preventing a full recovery.

    Now is the time for all good Americans to come to the aide of their country and vote for Romney.

    You are right in characterizing the “conservative” movement as a coalition of dissimilar views. Eventually we will have to hash these differences out, but in the meantime Romney must be our primary objective.

    That being said, I would like to point out that referring to your fellow conservative’s arguments as “leftist, anti-Christian, anti-conservative” is the exact same thing you should be condemning.

    I saw Ron Paul’s name mentioned above with a hint of disdain. I’m not a Paul supporter, although I did vote for him in the Virginia primary as he was the only not Romney candidate. Shouldn’t you also condemn the fact that I am forced to preface any praise for Ron Paul with the phrase I’m not a Ron Paul supporter because of how hostile factions in our coalition are to each other? I would vote for any Republican before I’d vote for Santorum, but I don’t target his supporters for expulsion.

    Erick and other notable conservatives need to broker a treaty between the varying factions to ensure that Obama is stopped. That includes the small government conservatives, the war hawks, the fundamentalists, the libertarians, the gun rights crowd, the Newt squad, the Santorum crew, and even the Ron Paulites.

    All of us are needed to save America. Ben Franklin was right, unite or die.

    • blakemoney

      and their are jokers. I still am not convinced that Rick Santorum was ever interested in governing. I think he was just as surprised as Newt Gingrich, that anyone was taking him seriously. He and Newt (and to a large extent, Sarah Palin) seemed more interested in running publicity campaigns for their own careers and appealing to the minority of conservative voters–the evangelicals, rather than the party as a whole. Romney is the only candidate who did not cave in, and as a result, he has an actual chance of beating Obama in November, rather than being a sacrificial lamb that Newt or Rick would have been. We should be glad about this. The sooner we understand this, the more effective we can be as a party.

      • https://www.facebook.com/HanoverHenry hanoverhenry

        … how come you left out Bachmann and Cain and Perry? Seems an absolute majority of conservatives have good feelings about all of them, but your name is “jokers” ?? Sounds a bit silly actually… of course when you run for President with little more than “asterisk” standing and barely registering with 2% in polls and then win 11 states I am sure you were rather surprised. Apparently you’ve been reading too many of the leftwing blogs if you thought these conservatives were only appealing to the “evangelicals” or only to the “minority of conservative voters.” Or perhaps you are simply a little bit math-challenged. Romney is the “presumptive” nominee for the same reason that Senator McCain won last time. Conservatives didn’t have one candidate they liked enough to unite behind, and so instead, stayed divided and allowed a candidate to win – both times – who could never get a majority against a divided field. Both McCain and Romney won fair and square Disparaging conservatives as a “minority” when we have over 75% of the votes in GOP presidential primaries means you simply haven’t been paying attention. Even a large number of Romney primary voters are conservative. We’ve had the problem of wanting the most conservative candidate possible, AND ALSO of wishing to beat Obama. We have our nominee now, but it isn’t because conservatives are “the minority.”

    • https://www.facebook.com/HanoverHenry hanoverhenry

      … and thank you for your very thoughtful message here. Not sure if we will ever “hash out” the differences but it really is a lot LESS of a difference between most of us versus us and Obama. I think you very much got my point and I am grateful to you for your willingness to listen to my ideas.

      The part about the leftist rhetoric comes from someone who has studied the left for many years and was of course, the central point of my essay. The people who are speaking of Rick Santorum using the same sort of rhetoric you can see for yourself at leftwing hate sites, do our cause a disservice. It is not my correctly and truthfully identifying their tactics which is the problem so I disagree with you there most strongly.

      I’m with the RED STATE editors in treating Ron Paul and his supporters in a different class. The poll report coming out of some of the early, more liberal, northeastern states which allowed non-GOP voters to participate in the primary, was instructive and I reported on it in a previous essay here. It is very important to understand this.

      Ron Paul voters said they’d voted for either Barack Obama or for a third party candidate last time, by an over 90 margin, and if their candidate did not win, they said they’d do so again this year 2012.

      In very marked contrast, those who had voted for Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum, said by an equally decisive margin – over 90% – that they WOULD VOTE FOR ANY CANDIDATE who won the GOP nomination, if their first choice did not win, because they wanted Obama out.

      It is not I who treats the Ron Paul campaign and his supporters different. It is they. I am – just as my essay suggests – objecting to THEIR doing what it is they are doing, and calling your attention to it.

      So when people on these pages use the rhetoric of the left to attack a conservative they do not agree with, I object. When Ron Paul’s supporters do the same thing – and if you pay better attention to their writings as I have done you will see they do not like conservatives and especially are proud to attack us AS MUCH as they attack Obama. These are their beliefs we are speaking of, not mine. These are their tactics, not mine.

      They – those using leftwing rhetoric and those Ron Paul supporters with the rule or ruin mentality – have the right to their position. I have the right to object and call attention to what they are doing. I have, and I will.

      In summary, you are correct, unite or die – except there are some in our midst who act as if Rick Santorum is more the enemy than is Barack Obama. Their rude and counter productive behavior is what we should all be objecting to.

  • huskerchuck

    Very good recitation. The last thing we need is to throw former candidates and their supporters under the bus. The diary in question was one I responded to, and one where, again, reasonable, conservative minds can agree to disagree. But such vitriol and hatred, especially in such a time as this, needs to be more focused on Obama and the destruction he’s wreaking on this great nation. We need to make every attempt to keep our own house in order, but once primary decisions are done, we need to focus on the ultimate battle, that of defeating liberalism and socialism.

    • https://www.facebook.com/HanoverHenry hanoverhenry

      you seem to have a good grasp of the word “primary” there… when it is done, we should move forward. Amen.

  • Darin_H

    If you had been here at least a year, you would know that Ann Coulter is routinely disparaged around here for some of her recommendations of NE governors like Christie (and some of her other more nutty ideas).

  • https://www.facebook.com/HanoverHenry hanoverhenry

    …if you’ve been a conservative for a year you would know that OTHER conservatives besides RED STATERS have also laughed about some of her comments about Christie – including Sean Hannity for example. But I do appreciate knowing as fact instead of as my own well advised speculation, that some would have disputed her on this. However, my larger point may have been missed in your haste to assure me that I am not alone on this. And that is, I suggest we not write her off because of a few things like this. Ditto, with Santorum and others. Her books and her body of work are fabulous. I say that of Newt Gingrich as well – having read some of his books, purchased some of his videos. I do not think our difference with one or another of these conservative public figure on some issues means we have to now “disparage” her as opposed to disputing what she suggestions when we do not agree. That’s my point.