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While The Left *Unites* A War Winds Down

PM Maliki announced agreement on a security pact with the United States to end any foreign military presence in Iraq by the end of 2011. This is excellent news no matter which side of the Iraq divide you consider yourself to be on. Excellent because the Iraqis now consider themselves ready to confront their own challenges with no outside assistance. What remains to be seen, however, is whether their confidence can be supported by the “realities on the ground” that President Bush and General Petraeus and Lt. Gen. Odierno routinely warn us about.

The “official” US position is that the agreement is not completed, but it seems imminent that a final deal will be reached and signed and announced. When that comes, Maliki will likely reap huge political rewards in Baghdad… and Americans can finally take Iraq, the political tug-of-war toy, OFF of the Election ’08 debate podium. It will come up to be sure, but a withdrawal agreement can NOT be claimed as a victory by either side of the aisle in Washington-they’ve both screwed the issue up so bad over the last three years that NEITHER side of the 2 contradicting war agendas can claim victory.

The Left has changed its position on WHY they want US Troops out of Iraq at least half a dozen times (I am being very generous), while in every instance suggesting we need to be spending that money here at home. The Right, to their credit, has consistently held that leaving Iraq before undeniable victory would have disastrous long-term consequences for both American AND Iraq…yet they, too, have changed positions on why that mattered to us nearly as many times.

What seems most indicative of the conflict in Iraq fought here on American soil up on Capitol Hill can be found in reading the news “headlines” and comparing them with the actual words coming out of PM Maliki’s mouth. The announcements refer to security agreements which, in part, include reduced American presence on the ground in cities around Iraq. The President, and those of us that support staying at Iraq’s side until they can stand up on their own, has repeatedly said we will “stand down when Iraq is ready to step up.” We appear to be reaching such a point in Iraq’s recovery.

The Left, of course, has stuck with “exit strategy”, “withdrawal timetables,” and “if we leave, they’ll be MADE to fend for themselves.”

Whatever the slogan, we are winding down in Iraq. We are doing so just at a time when Congressional approval remains at historical lows. And this is timed, intentionally or otherwise, around a US Presidential election cycle…and a looming election cycle in Iraq.

I remain moderately encouraged by this news, but nonetheless suspicious of the true motivations for Maliki’s Government to tell their enemies when they will no longer have anyone watching their backs. And I will continue to pray for the Iraqi people who still, after all these years, just want to be left alone to live in peace and take care of themselves and their families…and get ON with their lives without having to live in fear of the next car bomb or explosive vest-wearing lunatic around the next corner.

Whatever genuine motivations might be at play here, our brave Men and Women will be home soon, and we can all thank God for that…and we damn sure better thank THEM when they get here.

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  • Joe_Schmo

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  • Jim_Tomasik

    n/t

  • gamecock

    from months ago

    Nothing succeeds like Success

    Victory in Iraq is ours (see July 13 below), and, as predicted by Cockstradamus weeks ago, the victory will be declared before the November election.

    Bush will declare victory before election

    Rooster crowing from from June 22

    Accelerated troop level reductions will be announced based on success. For many moons now, this announcer of dawns has been nagged by an idea that dawned on me after Iraq’s security forces started winning battles on their own against Sunni-backed al Qaeda, Shia militias and even Iranian backed militias.

    We may be able to declare victory in Iraq very soon and announce accelerated withdrawals of victorious troops whose services are no longer required due to their success.

    I have always maintained that, while I want to maintain a major presence in Iraq, much like we did in Europe and the Pacific after WWII and Korea, it is vitally important that at some point there be an acknowledgement that we have won the Battle of Iraq and that any withdrawals be due to and seen as a result of our victory over the al Qaeda, radical terrorists, and Iran.

    In discussions with people that didn?t favor the war but who now want the USA to win, I found myself thinking to myself that my mantra of opposing troop reductions could and should soon yield to the most important mantra: victory.

    News report from July 13

    The Bush administration is considering the withdrawal of additional combat forces from Iraq beginning in September, according to administration and military officials, raising the prospect of a far more ambitious plan than expected only months ago.

    Such a withdrawal would be a striking reversal from the nadir of the war in 2006 and 2007…

    Even as the two candidates argue over the wisdom of the war and keeping American troops there, security in Iraq has improved vastly, as has the confidence of Iraq’s government and military and police, raising the prospect of additional reductions that were barely conceivable a year ago.

    While officials caution that the relative calm is fragile, violence and attacks on American-led forces have dropped to the lowest levels since early 2004.

    “As the Iraqi security forces get stronger and get better, then we will be able to continue drawing down our troops in the future,” Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said in Fort Lewis, Washington State, on Tuesday.

    “And I think that this transition of control and of responsibility, primary responsibility for security is a process that’s already well under way and based on everything that I’m hearing will be able to continue.”

    General David Petraeus, the American commander in Iraq, has already begun the review of security and troop levels. He and Bush promised in April that such a review would take place. Petraeus is expected to be more cautious than some policy makers in the administration and at the Pentagon might like.

    The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were discussing military planning, said he was more likely to recommend a smaller reduction, but still a withdrawal.

    One senior administration official cautioned that the president, who will have the final say, would be reluctant to endorse deep or rapid reductions if they jeopardized his goal of establishing a stable and democratic government in Baghdad.

    When I wrote my June 22 forecast, questions were raised as to who, in the Presidential and congressional campaigns, would be helped. On June 22, I wrote:

    the long list of accomplishments that lead inevitably to my pre-Election Day 2008 expectations:
    Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki sent the Iraqi army into Basra. It achieved in a few weeks what the British had failed to do in four years: take the city, drive out the Mahdi Army and seize the ports from Iranian-backed militias.

    When Mahdi fighters rose up in support of their Basra brethren, the Iraqi army at Maliki?s direction confronted them and prevailed in every town ? Najaf, Karbala, Hilla, Kut, Nasiriyah and Diwaniyah ? from Basra to Baghdad.

    Without any American ground forces, the Iraqi army entered and occupied Sadr City, the Mahdi Army stronghold.

    Maliki flew to Mosul, directing a joint Iraqi-U.S. offensive against the last redoubt of al-Qaeda, which had already been driven out of Anbar, Baghdad and Diyala provinces.

    The Iraqi parliament enacted a de-Baathification law, a major Democratic benchmark for political reconciliation.

    Parliament also passed the other reconciliation benchmarks ? a pension law, an amnesty law, and a provincial elections and powers law. Oil revenue is being distributed to the provinces through the annual budget.

    With Maliki having demonstrated that he would fight not just Sunni insurgents (e.g., in Mosul) but Shiite militias (e.g., the Mahdi Army), the Sunni parliamentary bloc began negotiations to join the Shiite-led government. (The final sticking point is a squabble over a sixth cabinet position.)

    My June 22 article also cites a Frank Rich column that evidences fears on the left that America will be seen as having won the Iraq War before November, yet many conservative nervous nellies still ponder that victory could hurt John McCain.

    Poppycock.

    When I say that “we” have won the war, I mean the United States of America, but it is the left and most of the Democratic Party that has called this Bushlied’s War. They opposed funding when they were in the minority during the stay the course years that won the trust of the Iraqis as well as the surge McCain had long called for that tipped the balance.

    Obama brags that he opposed the war while in Kindergarten, I mean the Iliinois State Legislature and has opposed troop funding. The words “win” or “success” in Iraq never cross his lips.

    Take heart my friends, not only will America benefit from victory, but so will those that worked to acheive it, and that is Joe Lieberman, President Bush, John McCain and most all Republicans sans Chuck Hagel.

    Cockstradamus has not yet determined whn Iran will be bombed or McCain’s margin of victory. Stay tuned.

  • E_Pluribus_Unum

    especially that closing paragraph. A large debt of gratitude is owed our fighting troops who have done spectacularly well in the face of a determined enemy and with pretty crappy treatment at home.

  • gamecock

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  • Cheetah772

    But I want Bush to declare victory AFTER election and BEFORE the Inauguration Day. In fact, I think Bush should declare victory just before Thanksgiving Day.

    Why? Because that way will help McCain drive home the message of strong leadership qualities, of which Obama has none at all, without Bush pulling the rug out under McCain’s feet. Attacking Obama on Iraq (foreign policy) is really where McCain’s strength lies. I think people are generally frustrated with US economy, but as long Iraq (and Russia) is on their minds, they’re more willing to vote for McCain. To be frank with you, I want to keep that way. Let Obama and McCain pound it out all way to election.

    Of course, that’s just my opinion, feel free to disagree with me…

  • aaronbg

    …Iraq needs to be brought to closure before the election so it cannot be used as a political tool, and instead would be seen as a Victory for the entire country. Also with Russia and Iran and N. Korea and Afghanistan still on the foreign affairs front we don’t need Iraq to be a selling point for McCain. In fact Russia is a better issue for McCain than Iraq at this point.

  • Cheetah772

    nt

  • gamecock

    enjoy

  • BigAl3111

    explain to me what exactly “victory” means relative to Iraq?

  • gamecock

    bravo

  • aaronbg

    n/t

  • Rod_Patrick

    Rejoice, America! Rejoice! God in heaven hasn’t forgotten you! But will you forget him and his words? You musn’t!

    Republicans and conservatives won’t! In God, We trust!

  • Cheetah772

    nt

  • Rod_Patrick

    Who know, all your prayers may come true! Always remember the heroism of your Prophet Daniel!

    He never gave in.

  • E_Pluribus_Unum

    And by that I mean McCain should win.

  • gamecock

    to be schooled on practicalities. An example: I can’t stand it when someone says that “we can’t afford an Obama” in war time.

    The fact is that we can’t afford a liberal ANY time. The US is al that stands between evil megalomaniacs of the russian mafia, chinese commie, or islamist kinds and other future evils a nd so we will always be the target.

    We will always be at war or between wars.

    You highlight the fact that too many Americans may see victory over Iraq and no mo 911s since 911 as evidence that we don’t nee to be strong anymore or that we the threat really wasn’t that great afterall, when the truth is that we diverted al qaida’s resources to their territory, rounded up visa overstays here and used intel gathering here to break up cells and prevent attacks.

    But yes, its good to have a tangible active evil actor we can point to as the election approaches.

    good job man

  • gamecock

    nt

  • aaronbg

    Victory in Iraq

    A democratic gov’t with the ability to defend itself from the tyranny of its neighbors and an ally to the U.S.

    How do you define it?

  • Cheetah772

    As the prequel airs after the election is done. It would be so cool to have Jack stare into Obama’s eyes! ;)

    But yes, Gamecock and Andrew, I’ll rejoice with you both for no reason other than the fact we’re winning RIGHT NOW in Iraq! hehe.

  • Vegas_Rick

    n/t

  • aaronbg

    n/t

  • streiff

    as good today as it was in 2005

  • gamecock

    but Spelling is the hobgoblin of puny minds!

    smile

    Aaron

    (and how does a rooster whose favorite player was Hank Aaron miss that one anyway?)

  • aaronbg

    n/t

  • BigAl3111

    As removing Saddam from power and insuring there are no weapons of mass destruction, which was the original intent. I thought we accomplished that long ago.

  • aaronbg

    Victory in Iraq is Defined in Stages
    Short term, Iraq is making steady progress in fighting terrorists, meeting political milestones, building democratic institutions, and standing up security forces.
    Medium term, Iraq is in the lead defeating terrorists and providing its own security, with a fully constitutional government in place, and on its way to achieving its economic potential.
    Longer term, Iraq is peaceful, united, stable, and secure, well integrated into the international community, and a full partner in the global war on terrorism.

    This is all from the link Streiff provided and I didn’t even look at that link before I answered you the first time.

    Sorry you definition is wrong.

  • BigAl3111

    we are ready to say that’s been accomplished? I would have to disagree with that.

  • aaronbg

    n/t

  • streiff

    you asked for how a victory in Iraq would be defined. I pointed out to you that the definition of victory had been around for three years. You can’t disagree with that.

    No one has said it has been accomplished. That’s why I’m guessing we still have troops there.

  • Vegas_Rick

    That would have been real effective.

  • BigAl3111

    that we can now declare victory because the longer term goals listed above have been accomplished?

  • QueenOfCups

    Oh, yeah, Vietnam when we were forced by our traitors at home to leave the job undone, much to our everlasting shame.

  • aaronbg

    …I am saying that many of the goals have been reached and hopefully we will declare victory before November based upon further goals being reached within that time.

  • streiff

    is of great interest to you, to the rest of us not so much.

  • BigAl3111

    with the definition you provided. But there are some on here who are pushing for declaring victory after or before the election. How can victory be declared without meeting the goals for victory?

  • streiff

    would be much of a problem with that if we wanted to. Just today al Anbar province, which was declared lost by the media in 2006, was handed over to the Iraqis.

    I’d find it hard to believe that if Bush did that that the Dems would disagree because right now the defeatism Tar Baby is stuck to them and that would let them off the hook.

  • BigAl3111

    I trust the democratic leadership on the Iraq issue as far as I can throw them. But in my research, things are so screwed up in Iraq, it will take decades to achieve those “victory” goals, no matter who wins the election.

  • streiff

    it looks like we and the Iraqis have nearly agreed that we will have achieved the military phase of that victory by 2011.

  • gamecock

    1

  • gamecock

    Did you celebrate?

  • David_Hinz

    I know they are a blowhard and simply apply:

    The Hinz Rule

  • Justin_Case

    the election of 1972 between Nixon and McGovern, Henry Kissinger gave his famous “Peace Is At Hand” speech – meaning an agreement had been made with the North Vietnamese.

    I always credited this speech, in large part, for creating much of Nixon’s landslide victory.

  • gamecock

    is not part of history. The fact is that we had won the war before the dem congress handed victory to the commies.