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Obama’s Killing Time

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Four more US Soldiers died in Afghanistan yesterday as we continued to wait anxiously for Obama to make up his mind about how to respond to General McChrystal’s report. During the pre-surge days in Iraq, 4 dead soldiers was enough for every major news outlet to scream from the rooftops about the costs of war. Now? Hardly a whisper.

Why is it so hard, Mr. President, to DO something about Afghanistan-even if you have to adjust your strategy again later-given that doing NOTHING has only gained you more fallen heroes? Since taking office, YOUR casualty count is nearly DOUBLE that of George Bush’s worst year as Commander in Chief. Why? Since receiving McChrystal’s assessment back in late August, your casualty count is rapidly approaching half of the entire year’s total. Again, Mr. President, WHY?

I brought this up a month ago, asking the same question…and that was a month AFTER Obama had received MCrystal’s assessment. It’s been another month hence, and still no strategy. We’re hearing now that Obama may “lock in” his decision by next Monday, but we’ve been hearing that for weeks. What’s so special about next Monday, other than it’s the Senate’s first day back to begin debate on the healthcare debacle? And, what exactly does “lock” mean? We’ve already been given one strategy and now we’re about to get another. Does this President actually believe there is one and only one strategy and that no further adjustments will be necessary as conditions on the ground change? He’s just not that good at the war “thing” and neither are very many of his “war councilors” for that matter.

If the measure of “getting it right” is determined by how long it takes you to do it, could we PLEASE apply this principle to the REST of the Obama agenda? Maybe an extended “cooling off period” for healthcare, cap and trade, and the buyouts and sellouts of America’s private sector would be better served as well.

Obama had a plan in mind when he ran for President, and he shared it with us 8 months ago. He was pretty sure of himself about the way forward in Afghanistan back then, suggesting that:

[t]he United States has a vital national security interest in addressing the current and potential security threats posed by extremists in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In Pakistan, al Qaeda and other groups of jihadist terrorists are planning new terror attacks. Their targets remain the U.S. homeland, Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, Europe, Australia, our allies in the Middle East, and other targets of opportunity. The growing size of the space in which they are operating is a direct result of the terrorist/insurgent activities of the Taliban and related organizations. At the same time, this group seeks to reestablish their old sanctuaries in Afghanistan.

Therefore, the core goal of the U.S. must be to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat al Qaeda and its safe havens in Pakistan, and to prevent their return to Pakistan or Afghanistan.

The ability of extremists in Pakistan to undermine Afghanistan is proven, while insurgency in Afghanistan feeds instability in Pakistan. The threat that al Qaeda poses to the United States and our allies in Pakistan – including the possibility of extremists obtaining fissile material – is all too real. Without more effective action against these groups in Pakistan, Afghanistan will face continuing instability.

Now, of course, Obama’s not quite so sure of himself even though much of McChrystal’s report in August supports these claims. A week ago Obama used the “O” word as he thought out loud about what to do:

US President Barack Obama says his administration will soon announce “very clear benchmarks” for Afghanistan that would bring the eight-year long occupation there to an end.

In an interview on Wednesday, Obama said that he will bring the Afghan war to an end before he leaves office.

“My preference would be not to hand off anything to the next president. One of the things I’d like is the next president to be able to come in and say I’ve got a clean slate,” CNN quoted Obama as saying.

The president emphasized that “a multi-year occupation won’t serve the interests of the United States.”

“The American people will have a lot of clarity about what we’re doing, how we’re going to succeed, how much this thing is going to cost, what kind of burden does this place on our young men and women in uniform and most importantly, what’s the end game on this thing.”

and the ever-popular-amongst-anti-war-screamers, “benchmarks”, thrown in for good measure.

It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Obama is taking all this time because he’s still muddling through just exactly HOW to lose and leave and make it Bush’s fault. Changing the words, and re-defining the purpose, and downsizing the goal from victory to success to withdrawal takes time. The loss of Soldiers along the way, sadly, appears to be just the collateral damage of bad politics and bad policy and poor leadership.

COMMENTS

  • neyney

    Does anyone remember the gruesome body counts that were going on under GW Bush? Now when record numbers of our soldiers are being killed DAILY what do we hear from the lamestream media? ….crickets….crickets

    Now that the manchild Obama is the MSM’s darling they have nothing to say. Nothing when this ditherer-in-chief pi–es away the lives of our men and women in uniform, nothing when he seems incapable of making a decision because he knows it will cost him politically, nothing when each day brings yet another casualty count. Oh yeah, they’re with him when he uses our troops for a “photo op”, yes when he uses our troops in a “coffin op”. Oh yes, then they are right there to document his “compassion”

    They talk of how Palin lacks “gravitas”. Well I’ll submit to you that Obama is not only lacking in gravitas, he never had it in the first place. This is what you get when a POTUS is elected mostly because of the amount of melanin in his skin.

    Worst President evah!!!

  • Dan Spencer

    Well said haystack. It is long since time for Obama to man up and make his long delayed decision.

    • IJB
  • Tbone

    Dead soldiers are validation of their basic anti-war views. Why would Obama do anything that would validate the opposite?

    Obama also hates the United States of America. He is culturally not an American. He certainly has far more Muslim culture in his life than anything that could be considered Christian.

    Per Frank Davis, his mentor, he has embraced every Marxist leader while demeaning our traditional allies.

    America needs to wake up to the fact that we elected a traitor who is hell bent on destroying America economically, politically and culturally and will use whatever facist tactics he can to achieve those ends.

  • Aaron Gardner

    With 25 rounds of golf under his belt, he has now surpassed the total rounds of golf Bush played in 8 years.

    Where is the liberal outrage? Where are the Code Pinkos? Where is the Dkos daily body count?

    Oh that right, golfing is only wrong when a Republican does it.

    • http://www.thats-right.com thatsright

      And lying about his scores to boot.

      Great post. I still can’t tell whether today’s 34,000 troop announcement isn’t the same 34,000 support troops he announced in October.

      This is a disaster. Bring them home.

  • Ausonius

    He has said so: the word makes him uncomfortable.

    Look for an “Afghanistanization” of the war as the “new strategy,” because there is no reason for a war, and there never was! The “War On Terror” according to the Left comes from the W. Bush “cowboy politics” of using military solutions for diplomatic, political, and criminal problems.

    We are in a police action, as the NYC trial for the 9-11 Terrorists demonstrates. NO war to see here, folks, move along!

  • http://online.logcabin.org/about/ suzieQ

    Maobama should have delivered them immediately! What happened to listening to your commanders on the ground? Democrats just want to cut and run again just like they wanted unconditional surrender in Iraq! I have to wonder how many dem senators are on the payroll of CAIR and other Islamofascists!

  • makemyday

    Mr. Obama doesn’t understand what it is like to be under fire. Maybe it’s time he learned

    • Hooah_Mac

      This is never acceptable here “makemyday”, even in veiled terms.

      • makemyday

        But after reading the following I probably went over the top a bit.

        http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576646,00.html

  • Richard Mullins

    and it shows quite often. I wish he would listen to whats being requested and fulfill it. As time goes on, I’m getting closer to “give General McCrystal the troops he needs or get out”. I don’t want to see a failure to happen in my lifetime.

    • IJB

      …And always has. From the beginning.
      The rest, going back to the campaign, was all Kabuki theater.

      The Democrats *NEVER* had any intention of staying in Afghanistan – remember, many Dems were opposed to the operation in the first place, going back to October of 2001.

      Obama is just finally following through on what he intended to do all along.

      The good news (if there is any, and there ain’t much in this…) is that the way this played out, the whole McCrystal thing has embarrassed and humiliated Obama, and, as of now, he won’t be able to blame this “loss” on “Bush”.

      Everybody who’s not a Code Pink nutter knows the score on this – Obama will abandon and surrender Afghanistan (and likely Pakistan), and he, and he alone, will bare the blame for that.

      (Getting ready as a campaign slogan in 2012: “Who lost Afghanistan/Pakistan?” The answer to that question, alone, may well finish Obama’s reelection chances…)

      • Richard Mullins

        but I guess he wants to be him a lot. I guess that’s what those that went to the polls and voted the Zombie choice got. Oh well.

      • ivorykeyer

        The public record contradicts your assertion that “many Dems were opposed to the operation in the first place, going back to October of 2001.” The AUMF, one of the key provisions of which permitted the invasion of Afghanistan, passed in the House 420-1 and in the Senate 98-0 with a few abstentions in each. If anything there was very broad, although not universal support by Democrats, both elected officials and the electorate for going into Afghanistan. On the other hand, the move towards Iraq and away from Afghanistan was considered by many Democrats to be at the expense of what they considered the justified war effort in Afghanistan.

        • IJB

          I was very specific: I said ?many Dems were opposed to the operation in the first place, going back to October of 2001.?

          The AUMF was on *September 18, 2001*. At that time, no Democrat, save the nutter Barbara Lee of Oakland, CA would dare stand against such a resolution a mere week after 9/11.

          Of course, all that started to change once we actually went in to Afghanistan – the usual suspects in the Legacy Media opinion began bleating “quagmire!” like sheep with just a few days of landfall, and they were soon picked up on by a substantial number of Democrat Congressmen and Senators. Many of the same have been whining about Afghanistan, and hemming-and-hawing (e.g. Feingold of WI) ever since in such a way that it’s clear to anyone paying attention that they’ve wanted to get out.

          Those are just the facts. I’m sorry if they discomfort you.

          • ivorykeyer

            If there was an “in the first place”, that would certainly have to be just about the first major congressional action – the AUMF vote.

            Being very specific myself, I believe that the proper term is Democratic Congressmen and Senators – not Democrat Congressmen and Senators.

  • idealjoe

    He can’t even support his own brother in Kenya. Besides, it’s George Bush’s war and all those rich white people.

  • http://wadebutler.com artman

    At some point in late 2011:

    “Our military has performed admirably in Afghanistan.
    But I after eight years of the Bush administration managing the war it was just too late once we were in charge. Bush had allowed the Taliban to reestablish itself and had alienated the Afghan people to the point we could not turn it around.”

    “Now, I have made the decision to redeploy our troops out of Afghanistan to preserve lives from what has become a hopeless situation. But the military should hold its head high. It should not take the blame for an administration that managed the war poorly from the start. We saw the same in Iraq where mismanagement resulted in a lengthy war that took too many American and Iraqi lives and went on years beyond where we should have seen victory.”

    We will be relentless in pursuing the Taliban and Al Qaeda who wish to harm America by other means where our technology permits. The Afghanistan threat was much overblown in any event. the Bush administration should have ended this conflict years ago with complete victory. Had they competently managed the war we would not be there today.”

  • jasonva

    My guess is that, next week, Obama will announce the deployment of a substantial number of troops to Afghanistan (probably 30,000-40,000). It pains him to do this but he knows that not addressing the hemorrhaging of troops is not politically healthy for him. Neither can he afford the liberal outrage that would typically be prompted by sending more troops. Therefore, he must frame the decision in such a way as to convince all but the looniest of the left that he has weighed all sides of the decision and truly has no other option.

    Of course, he could have executed this strategy a month ago with equal success – he also just does not give two figs for the plebes that populate our military.

  • drfredc

    Obama’s stalling as long as he can about getting troops into Afghanistan — he doesn’t want to have any peacenik rabble interferring with picking up his Nobel Peace prize….

  • cjohnson

    It’s amusing (somewhat) that we’re now down to playing spot the difference to work out what’s happening with our war strategy:
    http://winstonscat.blogspot.com/2009/11/spot-difference.html

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    If his goals and the purpose for being in Afghanistan are what I believe them to be, this is not good for our troops or the security of our country.

    • Richard Mullins

      so this one of those time that we need to tell him what we think about this(also we oppose not sending what we need).

  • kchand

    Makes him the DIC.

  • builder20

    All Obama is doing is trying to find the the troop level that will allow him to put the war in a holding pattern until 2012. If he wins in 2012 he will pull out the troops with the “I tried, but there can be no victory”, “Benchmarks were not met”, ect ect ect. If Obama looses his bid for reelection then his predecessor gets to eat the Afghanistan crap sandwich, and the MSM will once again scream about every troop killed.

  • revwarheropeterfrancisco

    Amateur-in-Thief.

    The delay is to extend out the clock to buy time to continue the Erosion and Destruction of The Republic by the Erosionist Lieberal Party

    We need to POUNCE on all these FRAUDS being exposed and DEMAND INVESTIGATIONS, RESIGNATIONS and ARRESTS.
    ACORN needs to be investigated nad many arrests all teh wya up to OBAMATEUR the ACORN TRAINER and ORGANIZER.
    GLOBAL WARMING Al Gore and others NEED TO BE ARRESTED.
    VOTING FRAUD and vorting Machines…there needs to be ARRESTS there too.
    UNCONSTITUTIONAL LESGISLATION, TREASON and Obamateurs’ NATURAL BORN CITIZEN FRAUD Nancy Peloosy and Harry Reid need to brought up on charges.

    End the LAWYERS MONOPOLY in CONgress by bringing Profession Diveristy. Common Citizen’s need to serrve Part Time as intended and end the Lawyers and Lifetime Professional Politicians Take Over of CONgress.

    Won’t bringing Jihadists to NYC for trial recruit more anti American Jihadis? Most Domestic Jihadi Terrorist are recruited in Jails by organizatiosn like Imam Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam, won’t putting jihadists in USA Jail faciliate in the Recruiting of more jihadis terrorists?

    End the INSURGENCY PRESIDENCY.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Teleprompter Child, August 17, 2009 in Phoenix, AZ to the VFW Convention.

    Fox News just reported the Ditherer-in-Chief will take his never-ending election campaign to the United States Military Academy at West Point, NY on Tuesday evening to announce “something” about the war in Afghanistan — probably that he is going to think harder about how to “make sure that we get it right” — or some such empty-worded nonsense.

    Thank you.
    ColdWarrior
    www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

  • reddog53

    And we are finally told by the breathless media that the President will announce his decision ‘next Tuesday’…followed by reports today that he’s making his remarks from West Point….and then in the next breath, the media tells us what he’s going to announce.

    So, what was the point of the announcement? Why do the leaks? The whole thing is maddening.

    I would really like to see a reporter press for the hard details about what the original composition of the 40,000 troops was to be, and compare that to the composition of the 34,000 that all of this hubbub has decided is ‘the right number.’

    I’d equally like to see them ask for the basis of the remarks that they don’t expect to be in Afghanistan in 8 years….I don’t think that ANYONE had that idea, ever. Another false premise….

  • nutz2u2

    The USA is running out of:
    1. Ready troops to send to fight on foreign battlefields.
    2. Money to finance our participation in foreign wars.
    3. Patience with Mr. Obowma, but not necessarily for his
    lack of leadership with the Afgan situation alone.

  • danielbdp

    View and share before the thought police pull it

    You’ve got to take 2 minutes to watch this comparison between
    George Bush’s visit to the Marines vs. Obama’s recent trip. It is incredible.

    Two Presidents Meet the Marines The Marines Show You How There’s a ‘message’ in this video. You might want to view it ASAP as it’s not likely to last very long on You Tube…….

    Not to mention, who recently secretly visited the wounded at Ft Hood’s hospitals, and who did not…

    As reported by these Bush haters…note their begrudging acceptance of the fact it was G.W. Bush and Barbara, not slick Billy nor O, that did the right thing…who knows, evidence of common man’s goodness may still get through their hardened, hateful hearts yet…even if just for the Holidays…

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×6959001

    What!!! No news crews and cameras. This is how an adult responds and pays respect to those in uniform.

    http://democratsforsale.blogspot.com/2009/11/george-w-bush-visits-fort-hood-wounded.html

    • JadedByPolitics

      they recognize WEAKNESS in The Idiot in Chief! I know when President Bush showed up on Thanksgiving the troops and my family were so very proud I would have to say I haven’t been proud in 10 months…extremely SAD!

  • ecroper

    This has been my concern all along. There are characteristics of elements concerning conflict, It doesnt matter if its a dissagreement withe a loved one or a neighbor, a disagreement in the school yard or at a city park.Combatants have processes in which determine the direction or out come of a confrontation.This addministration has done nothing but compromize all aspects of Security, Liberty,Health and Well-being of our Great Nation.Our traditions are being tossed aside like trash,Our values are being degraded by people that have none.Our choices are being taken away from us faster than we can put them on paper.All the people of the whole world have their eyes on the Americans wondrein and hoping that they make the Right decisions. Even they know somthing is wrong withe the leadership. Will We The People Make the right decission, in these times of unrest and distrust.May God Help Us Now. I pray HE will.

  • squabulous

    …. you have to conserve American troops and tax dollars.

    Neither Bush nor Obama are doing that, so both qualify as free-spending Liberals, in my book. The main difference is that Bush was OVERTLY pro-war, while Obama is COVERTLY pro-war. “Tweedledum and Tweedledee agreed to have a battle.” And yet, there ARE some differences.

    Obama has NOT allowed terrorists to kill thousands here, or attacked the wrong country, or bankrupted the nation to pay for his war, or given tax cuts to billionaires in wartime, or opted to let a major U.S. city drown and rot, or approved torture and execution without trial, or… well, you get the picture.
    .
    But the night is young. Obama has three to seven more years in which to screw up. And let’s not forget, Obama would not be losing troops if Bush hadn’t started the wrong war, failed to end it and wasted all the money he could have used to finish it. Bush’s tax cuts for billionaires and bank bailouts took precedence over American lives.
    .
    Bush learned the 9/11 hijackers were mostly from Saudi Arabia, his old business partner. Attacking them would have ended a profitable family business relationship. So he let the 21 Saudi family members in the U.S. leave unquestioned on the first planes out after 9/11.
    .
    The Saudis fund radical madrassahs that generate terrorists to attack us. Their only requirement is that they stay out of Saudi Arabia.
    .
    We should have attacked Saudi Arabia for 9/11, not kissed them on the cheek and held hands with them, as W disgustingly did. And yet you feign outrage when Obama bows to a foreign head of state. As Nixon did to Red Communist premier Mao Tse-Tung and Eisenhower bowed to DeGaulle.
    .
    Reagan even bowed to the corpse of Emperor Hirohito, who attacked us on Dec, 7, 1941. Why not? It wasn’t like the draft-dodging Gipper had to fight Japan in WWII. He got an exemption to stay home and make movies, unlike patriotic Americans Jimmy Stewart, Ted Williams, Clark Gable, Jackie Cooper and Eddie Albert.
    .
    Bush fired generals Shinseki and Powell, who disagreed with his incompetent war plans. Then he sent our troops off to attack a beaten Iraq, with inadequate armor and electric showers. If that’s conserving our troops and tax dollars, I’m Genghis Khan.
    .
    Bush was the worst kind of drug-addled, draft-dodging, swaggering, know-nothing Liberal, who used his office to enrich his pals to the detriment of taxpayers, disaster victims and international goodwill. Obama may not have done much better in his first year, but it would be next to impossible to do much worse than Geoge W. Bush.
    .
    Anyone who still thinks George W. Bush is a Conservative should look up the meaning of the word. It means not wasting ANYTHING. Words MEAN things, you can’t be like the Red Queen and assign them new definitions like “Healthy Forests” for clear-cutting and “Clear Skies” for more smog.
    .
    You have to conserve language, too, and not change “bad” to “good” because it sells your policy by appealing to fools. Conservatism is more than just a label, it’s a way of life. What has George W. Bush conserved, besides his own money?
    .
    Conservatism would include saving U.S. troops and tax money, kids. Bush wasted them because he’s the most Liberal president this country has ever had. He spends money like a drunk because he has no long-range plans, just his elitist Harvard MBA to tell him to rape the Treasury and get rich quick. He’s the first president with an MBA. Let’s hope he’s the last.

    • JadedByPolitics

      Your brain must hurt with all that HATE inside it! I will pray for it to explode to relieve you!

      • pilgrim
    • Richard Mullins

      really are you a zombie of the President or do you have a mind of your own? I could get the same talking points for MSDNC but with a much better looking package. If you come up with something that doesn’t sound like a re hash of WH talking points, let me and everyone here know

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • azgal

    He’s just been voting “present” for three months. I watched all the debates on both sides just to learn everything I could about even candidates I disliked. Whether because of indecisiveness or never wanting to offend the opposition, Hillary warned us of Obama’s record of voting present.

  • gekster

    Bush learned the 9/11 hijackers were mostly from Saudi Arabia, his old business partner. Attacking them would have ended a profitable family business relationship.

    Yea. Like the Bushes needed more money.
    Bush never came off as personally greedy to me.

    One of our most loyal alies in the Middle East besides Isreal is Saudi Arabia.
    In the mind of Bin Ladin, if the hijackers were all from Saudi Arabia, then hopefully he could drive a wedge between us and them and the American people would turn on them and come to hate them.
    Americans were and are smarter than that.

    • gekster