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More on DC Voting – “Let’s do something” is the problem with Washington

In response to my first post, there were too many issues raised to deal with all of them, but several merit a response.

First, and most importantly – the phrase “let’s do something” raised in one comment is precisely the disease that too often engulfs Congress and the rest of Washington. It is almost never necessary to “do something.” It is almost always VERY BAD to “do something.” The Banks are failing – “do something.” The economy is in trouble – “do something.” A museum is needed for Woodstock – “do something!!!!!” The idea that we cannot survive without Congress “doing something” is the biggest problem we face today…

With respect to this issue – DC representation – it’s hard to believe that with terrorists running amok (many more soon thanks to Democrat control), an economy in bad shape, a completely broken immigration system, and a looming Social Security and Medicare crisis, that the DC representation issue is the most pressing matter… particularly considering it is not exactly a new issue!

Speaking of… and to my second point, the “taxation without representation” line is tired and overused in this context. Besides the obvious point that only a small portion of the residents even pay taxes in the first place, consider that this issue is not new and was addressed by Chief Justice John Marshall in an 1820 opinion:

The difference between requiring a continent, with an immense population, to submit to be taxed by a government having no common interest with it, separated from it by a vast ocean, restrained by no principle of apportionment, and associated with it by no common feelings; and permitting the representatives of the American people, under the restrictions of our constitution, to tax a part of the society…which has voluntarily relinquished the right of representation, and has adopted the whole body of Congress for its legitimate government, as is the case with the district, is too obvious not to present itself to the minds of all. Although in theory it might be more congenial to the spirit of our institutions to admit a representative from the district, it may be doubted whether, in fact, its interests would be rendered thereby the more secure; and certainly the constitution does not consider their want of a representative in Congress as exempting it from equal taxation.

Third, ok… you caught me. You are correct that the better analysis re: the overall federal spending issue is the relative per capita expenditure vs. per capita tax burden. So, according to the Tax Foundation, the federal-spending-per-dollar-of-taxes in DC in 2005 (sorry I didn’t find more current) was $5.55. The next closest? New Mexico with $2.03… placing DC at almost 3X the next highest… and almost 10X the lowest (New Jersey).

Fourth, and finally. Sure, Heritage points out the “unassailable premise of government by consent.” Yes. We all know. Government “of the people, by the people, for the people.” The plight of the residents of the District of Columbia is not exactly the saddest story I have ever heard, however. They do have a free will (i.e. they can move). They do have the benefit of massive tourism. They do have the entire Congress looking out for them in the end. They do vote for President. They do get a national defense. They do get a ton of money.  They do enjoy the rule of law and the protection of the same freedoms as the rest of us.  The list goes on and on.

What precisely is it they are missing? The idea that the “people in power” are not accountable discounts the provision of home rule to DC (for better or worse), and the aforementioned Congressional oversight of, and provision to, DC.

And even if one does get wound up about the principle of it all – the Constitutional question remains.

  1. The statute option being pushed by Democrats (and Orrin Hatch) is unconstitutional. If you disagree, fine – but you ignore the text of the Constitution.
  2. To amend the Constitution to simply add a representative for DC – as I suspect the Republicans will foolishly propose in an attempt to prove they care but also show they want to “do it the right way” – is to, as I stated above, undermine the fundamental premise that we built our nation upon the existing sovereign states. The language of the Constitution purposefully and necessarily reflects that fact in its federalist structure. In short – to provide for representation outside of the states is to turn the Constitution on its head.
  3. Retrocession also raises some Constitutional concerns.

My main point about all of this is that Republicans should not seek some solution for the sake of having a solution. This is the “let’s do something” mindset that destroys our nation on a daily basis. They can, and should in contemplating any resolution to this situation, consider the intent of the framers in creating an independent capital city and guaranteeing representation for the citizens of the several states.

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  • Mike gamecock DeVine

    I will link to this in my next diary.

    • http://www.scottbomb.com scottbomb

      …is that it’s so far removed from the rest of America. The founders wanted the capitol to be somewhat centrally located in order to provide for access by all Americans. They were afraid that a capital that’s geographically removed from most Americans would become “out of touch” and pehaps even tyrannical.

      Welcome to 2009. I think if the founders were alive today, they’d insist it be located in Omaha, Kansas City, or Des Moines.

  • lapert

    How about undoing the questionable retrocession of Alexandria to Virginia? Not only is that clearly a constitutional option, it would turn solve the broader problem faced by DC which is the lack of a sustainable tax base to operate an actual city and could avoid the political issues by turning Virginia back to red.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Indeed you are right, hogan. Reagan was right about this too. In most situtations facing us today, things will improve to the extent you remove government tampering. More layers of regulation and oversight just add to the bloat and further gum up the free market’s ability to fix itself.

    The Dems have used the “do something” meme to stampede foolish people (Specter et al) into rash and destructive action.

  • owise1

    It occurs to me that the passage of this bill has created opportunities for the Republican Party

  • farstar99

    One of the few things Thoreau said with which I agree. (I know, people attribute to Jefferson, but unfortunately, it appears Thoreau said it.)

    Here is the strategy I think we should follow as a party. Make the Democrats and Obama own what they are doing. It’s obvious they don’t know what they’re doing unless it involves corruption or theft.
    So flood the world with the name Obama. Use it in every day conversation in place of other words. Every plan is the Obama plan. Every obstruction or theft of rights, every attack on the Constitution is the Democrat obstruction, the Obama attack on the Constitution.

    The guy is obsessed with himself, his Brand, as he calls it. Flood the market. Make people SICK TO DEATH of his name, sick to death of our complaining about him. Make them wish he’d just go away. Make them sick of the Democrats by extension.

    We know it works.
    They did it to us.

    • mallcopsaysno

      First
      This DC voting rights issue is an injustice only the government is going to be able to correct. And so it should.

      You know what else wasn’t a new issue, nor was it likely the biggest problem facing the nation or the world in 1919 and 1920? Women’s suffrage. We got that solved though.

      Second

      Besides the obvious point that only a small portion of the residents even pay taxes in the first place…

      I have no idea where you’re pulling that from. I pay federal taxes here. I have no voting representation in Congress. That’s not ok. Not in this country.

      Here’s something to think about in response to Justice Marshall:

      Federalists argued that exclusive legislative jurisdiction over the seat of government was needed so the federal government would not be dependent on a state for security in case of mutiny or disruption. Samuel Osgood, a member of the Board of Treasury, said,

      • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

        “I pay federal taxes here. I have no voting representation in Congress. That

        • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

          …everything except the actual portions of DC that are federal buildings back to Maryland, but the Democrats love having those extra three EVs, so it isn’t going to happen.

          Such is life.

          • mallcopsaysno

            n/t

        • mallcopsaysno

          We could all move three miles I suppose, but I’d rather have the vote come to us.

        • lapert

          I happen to agree with your suggestion below. But is ‘they can move’ really an acceptable answer? If the Brits had said the colonists can move to french territories would that have, philosophically, refuted Jefferson? I don’t see how.

          • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

            At least, it’s acceptable to *me.* As somebody who lives about halfway between Baltimore and DC, I’m pretty much unsympathetic to the entire ‘taxation without representation’ argument. Price they pay for three largely undeserved EVs which continuously threaten to put us into a deadlocked Presidential election every four years.

            Mind you, if the District started voting Republican I might change my mind. Because I’m a hypocrite that way.

          • lapert

            As long as one is honest about their hypocrisy I’m all for it.

            I live closer to the district than halfway and have no particular affinity for it – but conceptually I do think there is a broader question of how we square this with our underlying political philosophy (not at the same moral equivalency, but similar to slavery as issue postponed for the sake of pragmatism until it could no longer be).

          • DONTREADONME

            http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&court=US&case=/us/18/317.html

            mallcopsaysno…
            “About 31 percent of all property value in the District is exempt from property taxation due to the federal and diplomatic presence (21 percent) as well as other tax-exempt properties (10 percent).”

            Federal Property is just that, federal property, if they are not exempted from DC taxes on property, then DC controls the tax payers of the US (since the Federal Gov gets its income from taxpayers, it would be one a double whammy to citizens of DC. No, I do not want DC to have that power.

            Number two because Arlington was returned to Viriginia is fine, but returning DC to Maryland or Viriginia would violate the constitution again it specifically talks to the “District”

            One other interesting thing about Article I Section 8, DC “To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

            To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.”

            Pretty much seals the fate of DC. “seat of Government” “Cession of particular States” and “exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be”.

            So forming the state of DC would also again violate Article IV Section 3:

            “New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

            because the creation of DC from another state (that happened 200+ years ago does not apply as a reason here) is specifically addressed. So again, we need an ammendment to correct this issue, and in it a smaller area needs to be given up by DC to the federal government to form the new Seat of Power. District of the District of Columbia

          • mallcopsaysno

            I understand the reasoning behind not subjecting federal buildings to local District taxes. What you should understand is that this doesn’t happen in other cities. Not that other cities don’t have federal buildings, but no other city has so many, so concentrated in the very best commercial real estate. Why aren’t we more financially self-sufficient? That’s one reason right there.

          • johnt

            then what priorities have been freely chosen? An individual choice of some sort has been arrived at, no vote but what other convenience or advantage? You take your pick and you pay your price and apparently not having the vote is not a problem sufficient enough to cause moving.
            Therefore it ought not to be a sufficient reason to amend the Constitution.

      • skorrent1

        I used to tell disgruntled DC residents that they were sacrificed to the greater good as an object lesson of the type of government we might all expect as Congress assumed more and more control over local affairs.

        Unfortunately, the rest of the country refused to learn by the example. As a result, a great many of us beyond the Potomac have the same feeling of being taxed, regulated and controlled without representation.

        As to the net flow of taxes and services, does DC have any viable industry other than as the Federal seat and associated tourism?

        • Aaron Gardner

          Crack Cocaine?

          /snark

        • lapert

          Depends on how broadly you define ‘federal seat’. It has a lot of private industries that exist primarily to serve government (publishing is a big one often forgotten, obviously defense contractors, technology services, etc. not to mention the lawyers working on behalf of every company, association, country or constituency that is potentially impacted by government action).

          The vast majority of DC residents do not work directly for the federal government.

  • DONTREADONME

    DC’s representation is the entire representation of the United States of America.

  • Achance

    to include proscribing participation in any activity intended to influence a state or federal election and extending it to officers and employees of any organization having a contract or receiving a grant from the federal government. Then and only then I might consider additional political rights for residents of the District.

    And just to be clear, I strongly support the same sort of limitations on the rights of ANY public employee to influence the government for which they work and likewise any contractor or grantee of a state or local government.

  • johnt

    along with the overall performance of city managed services, one would think that rather than Congressional representation declaring the city a mental emergency ward would be more appropriate.
    Vote? They can’t even think, not that that is a qualification any more.

    Of course if there was any chance that DC would send an occasional Republican to Congress talk of representation would vanish into thin air, which is where all liberal principles wind up.