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	<title>Comments on: National Service - Soviet Style (Part II in a series that you can&#8217;t possibly make up)</title>
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		<title>By: aesthete</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/03/25/national-service-soviet-style-part-ii-in-a-series-that-you-cant-possibly-make-up/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>aesthete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was Hatch always this bad, or did he suddenly just start sucking.

I as because he comes from Utah, one of the most conservative states in the union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Hatch always this bad, or did he suddenly just start sucking.</p>
<p>I as because he comes from Utah, one of the most conservative states in the union.</p>
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		<title>By: roscopico</title>
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		<dc:creator>roscopico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Great One thought so as well.  Listen to hour 1 from 03-25.

Reco'd, and 555's.

Scary stuff, and further betrayal by the abusers and sellouts to liberty.
Big gov't HACKS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Great One thought so as well.  Listen to hour 1 from 03-25.</p>
<p>Reco&#8217;d, and 555&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Scary stuff, and further betrayal by the abusers and sellouts to liberty.<br />
Big gov&#8217;t HACKS.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Amy Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have kids either, but I still don't think involuntary servitude is an awesome idea that will promote patriotism and lovingkindness and oneness and hopey mcchangeness....blah blah blah.  

I HEARTLY withhold my consent.  

As for laying down in front of the training camp bus...I have a feeling that the wheels on THIS bus are going to go ~thump thump thump~ over anyone who tries to stop it...can we shoot out the tires instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have kids either, but I still don&#8217;t think involuntary servitude is an awesome idea that will promote patriotism and lovingkindness and oneness and hopey mcchangeness&#8230;.blah blah blah.  </p>
<p>I HEARTLY withhold my consent.  </p>
<p>As for laying down in front of the training camp bus&#8230;I have a feeling that the wheels on THIS bus are going to go ~thump thump thump~ over anyone who tries to stop it&#8230;can we shoot out the tires instead?</p>
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		<title>By: The_Rebel</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but the effect will still be the same; i.e., the brown shirts will be goose stepping down main street in a neighborhood near you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but the effect will still be the same; i.e., the brown shirts will be goose stepping down main street in a neighborhood near you.</p>
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		<title>By: maddog</title>
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		<dc:creator>maddog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 1stRichard</title>
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		<dc:creator>1stRichard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As HR 1388 was done the house, see ‘‘SEC. 125 (a) 20 prohibits attempting to influence legislation, engaging in partisan political activities, or other activities designed to influence the outcome of an election to any public office, to engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted. As it was worded “A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities” it could easily be interpreted as being at all times. 

Someone pointed out Subsection 136 and section 120 indicates this is mandatory, a draft. Section 1710 suggests a pilot program, electronic filing, RFID chips? Someone else pointed out that vaccines of their choice would be mandatory. Cost some 3 billion dollars. Section 120 of the bill discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that service learning will be a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency. 

I hope everyone understands the scope of possibilities of this act, this effects everyone from your children to retired. Hr 1388 the you Give Act, a Clean Energy Corps, a Classroom Corps a Veterans Corps? But we have these already these they are mostly faith based and/or charitable organizations. Hr 1388 is all government control and a huge expansion of government. No more scouts, it could now be the Scout Corps? No more USO, it could now be the Veterans Corps? The federal government could force people to volunteer but only with groups that they deem worthy. You'll be able to satisfy volunteer requirements with Planned Parenthood or ACORN but not your church or a pro-life group. Think of it, would you like to take part in helping abortions, it is a possibility. 

Please excuse me for being a conservative but charity is an individual liberty, otherwise it is socialism. All republicans that have their names on this have committed one of the highest forms of treasons in my opinion and need to head accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As HR 1388 was done the house, see ‘‘SEC. 125 (a) 20 prohibits attempting to influence legislation, engaging in partisan political activities, or other activities designed to influence the outcome of an election to any public office, to engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted. As it was worded “A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities” it could easily be interpreted as being at all times. </p>
<p>Someone pointed out Subsection 136 and section 120 indicates this is mandatory, a draft. Section 1710 suggests a pilot program, electronic filing, RFID chips? Someone else pointed out that vaccines of their choice would be mandatory. Cost some 3 billion dollars. Section 120 of the bill discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that service learning will be a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency. </p>
<p>I hope everyone understands the scope of possibilities of this act, this effects everyone from your children to retired. Hr 1388 the you Give Act, a Clean Energy Corps, a Classroom Corps a Veterans Corps? But we have these already these they are mostly faith based and/or charitable organizations. Hr 1388 is all government control and a huge expansion of government. No more scouts, it could now be the Scout Corps? No more USO, it could now be the Veterans Corps? The federal government could force people to volunteer but only with groups that they deem worthy. You&#8217;ll be able to satisfy volunteer requirements with Planned Parenthood or ACORN but not your church or a pro-life group. Think of it, would you like to take part in helping abortions, it is a possibility. </p>
<p>Please excuse me for being a conservative but charity is an individual liberty, otherwise it is socialism. All republicans that have their names on this have committed one of the highest forms of treasons in my opinion and need to head accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: Wing Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wing Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will not allow my daughter to become indoctrinated by this man or his minions.  

She is the most precious thing in the world to me and my wife.  

Whatever it takes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will not allow my daughter to become indoctrinated by this man or his minions.  </p>
<p>She is the most precious thing in the world to me and my wife.  </p>
<p>Whatever it takes.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1852 the military forced children to attend a state school.

Many sign up their children up to attend a state school which is very much a day camp for indoctrination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1852 the military forced children to attend a state school.</p>
<p>Many sign up their children up to attend a state school which is very much a day camp for indoctrination.</p>
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