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		<title>By: thegoodfight</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a gun-toting, pro-life, anti-illegal immigrant, consitution-loving, born-again believer married to a  Veteran.  And if that's the definition of right-wing extremist, I proudly bear the title.
PS - the tea party I attended today was awesome...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a gun-toting, pro-life, anti-illegal immigrant, consitution-loving, born-again believer married to a  Veteran.  And if that&#8217;s the definition of right-wing extremist, I proudly bear the title.<br />
PS - the tea party I attended today was awesome&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lammo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy McMorris Rodgers (WA-05) will be attending the Spokane, WA, TDTP.  No squirrels, howevere, will be allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy McMorris Rodgers (WA-05) will be attending the Spokane, WA, TDTP.  No squirrels, howevere, will be allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lammo</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/14/obama-administration-veterans-pro-lifers-gun-enthusiasts-and-those-skeptical-of-washington-are-%e2%80%9cright-wing-extremists%e2%80%9d/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Lammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't have put it better myself.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t have put it better myself.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.redstate.com/hogan/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Finrod</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/14/obama-administration-veterans-pro-lifers-gun-enthusiasts-and-those-skeptical-of-washington-are-%e2%80%9cright-wing-extremists%e2%80%9d/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Finrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://wnd.com/images/dhs-rightwing-extremism.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://wnd.com/images/dhs-rightwing-extremism.pdf">http://wnd.com/images/dhs-rightwing-extremism.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Finrod</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/04/14/obama-administration-veterans-pro-lifers-gun-enthusiasts-and-those-skeptical-of-washington-are-%e2%80%9cright-wing-extremists%e2%80%9d/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Finrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone got another link to that DHS document?  It 404s now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone got another link to that DHS document?  It 404s now.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is deliberately demonizing all of us who want to stop them from taking us even further to the left than we currently are.  They wish to tar everyone who opposes them and that means US.  They are labeling US as extremists, not just some fringe White Supremacist groups or neo-Nazis, but those of us who work, raise families, pay taxes and DON'T AGREE WITH THEM.

You don't agree with them either, from reading your past comments.  Does that make you an extremist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is deliberately demonizing all of us who want to stop them from taking us even further to the left than we currently are.  They wish to tar everyone who opposes them and that means US.  They are labeling US as extremists, not just some fringe White Supremacist groups or neo-Nazis, but those of us who work, raise families, pay taxes and DON&#8217;T AGREE WITH THEM.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t agree with them either, from reading your past comments.  Does that make you an extremist?</p>
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		<title>By: arel</title>
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		<dc:creator>arel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are not talking about you they are talking about "extremists." They are not calling out all conservatives they are calling out these exetreme right wing conservatives. I am against abortion but I am not going to go to an abortion clinic and mow down the workers, doctors and patient there. There has been a rise in the purchase of guns among white supremist groups and that is something that should be a concern for HLS. While I understand the outrage by most conservatives I also understand that there are some valid concerns. We are living in a time of extremists on both sides and until the moderate middle can take control we are headed for even harsher times. People should really sit back and look at what is going on in our country. We need to vote out these extreme "powerful" politicians on both sides and take our country back. We are traveling down a very immoral path that if not addressed by all of us will be the end of the USA as we remember it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are not talking about you they are talking about &#8220;extremists.&#8221; They are not calling out all conservatives they are calling out these exetreme right wing conservatives. I am against abortion but I am not going to go to an abortion clinic and mow down the workers, doctors and patient there. There has been a rise in the purchase of guns among white supremist groups and that is something that should be a concern for HLS. While I understand the outrage by most conservatives I also understand that there are some valid concerns. We are living in a time of extremists on both sides and until the moderate middle can take control we are headed for even harsher times. People should really sit back and look at what is going on in our country. We need to vote out these extreme &#8220;powerful&#8221; politicians on both sides and take our country back. We are traveling down a very immoral path that if not addressed by all of us will be the end of the USA as we remember it.</p>
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		<title>By: ddstrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddstrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where are they now?  Here's the text of an article from OMBwatch.com on the Maryland police action.  DHS was involved there as well.  Why are the civil libertarians on the left staying silent?  



Maryland State Police Surveillance of Advocacy Groups Exposed
 
On July 17, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Maryland disclosed documents revealing that state police engaged in covert surveillance of local peace and anti-death penalty groups for over a year during the administration of former Maryland Governor Robert L. Ehrlich (R). In response, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) said he might support a Justice Department investigation into why this surveillance occurred. Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS), chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, wrote to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff requesting a full account of the surveillance actions and further information regarding the funds used.

The ACLU of Maryland was concerned that the Maryland State Police were hiding information on the surveillance of local peace activists. On June 12, it filed a lawsuit against the state police for refusing to disclose records in response to a public information request. Plaintiffs include the American Friends Service Committee, Jonah House, Baltimore Pledge of Resistance, Baltimore Emergency Response Network, and several individuals.

A June ACLU press release states, "Documents disclosed during a prosecution for disorderly conduct and trespass against two individuals arrested at a protest at the National Security Agency (NSA) in October 2003 indicated that a 'Baltimore Intel Unit' had been monitoring protestors from these groups as they assembled and traveled to the NSA for a protest in July 2004. In order to discover the identity of this 'intel unit,' and why the unit was monitoring their peaceful protest activities, the groups filed requests under the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) with several federal agencies, including the NSA, in August of 2006."

The press release describes the 43 pages of summaries and computer logs. Maryland State Police's Homeland Security and Intelligence Division sent agents to infiltrate the Baltimore Pledge of Resistance, a peace group, the Coalition to End the Death Penalty (CEDP), and the Committee to Save Vernon Evans. The surveillance continued even though there were no reports of illegal activity and consistently indicated that no violent protests were being planned. Reports of the surveillance were also sent to at least seven federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies. The press release went on to say, "Agents from the Division monitored private organizing meetings, public forums and events held in several churches, as well as anti-death penalty rallies outside the state's SuperMax facility in Baltimore and in Lawyer's Mall in Annapolis."

 

The ACLU of Maryland will be filing additional requests under the Maryland Public Information Act. It called on activists across the state to find out if their organizations have been spied on. The ACLU will work with groups that are willing to provide the names of key individuals who could be listed in surveillance records to document the full extent of any surveillance and will ensure that the targets have an opportunity to review the files that relate to them and have those files purged.

The Washington Post reported, "Then-state police superintendent Tim Hutchins acknowledged in an interview yesterday that the surveillance took place on his watch, adding that it was done legally."

Reaction to news of the surveillance was swift and negative. Hoyer's statement said, "While it is the job of law enforcement to protect the public and keep the peace, it is difficult to understand how non-violent peace activists and opponents of the death penalty constituted a threat to public safety. We need to understand why the monitoring of these and other citizens took place — and whether any federal funds were used in support of this program." Thompson said, "The politically motivated surveillance of dissident domestic groups that have neither a link to terrorism nor promote violence is ... a deplorable use of taxpayer funds." In addition, Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley (D) announced an investigation to be led by civil rights attorney Stephen H. Sachs, working with State Attorney General Douglas Gansler and state police chief Col. Terrence Sheridan. The 30-60 day review is aimed at developing new intelligence guidelines.

(Kay Guinane 08/05/08)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where are they now?  Here&#8217;s the text of an article from OMBwatch.com on the Maryland police action.  DHS was involved there as well.  Why are the civil libertarians on the left staying silent?  </p>
<p>Maryland State Police Surveillance of Advocacy Groups Exposed</p>
<p>On July 17, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Maryland disclosed documents revealing that state police engaged in covert surveillance of local peace and anti-death penalty groups for over a year during the administration of former Maryland Governor Robert L. Ehrlich (R). In response, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) said he might support a Justice Department investigation into why this surveillance occurred. Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS), chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, wrote to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff requesting a full account of the surveillance actions and further information regarding the funds used.</p>
<p>The ACLU of Maryland was concerned that the Maryland State Police were hiding information on the surveillance of local peace activists. On June 12, it filed a lawsuit against the state police for refusing to disclose records in response to a public information request. Plaintiffs include the American Friends Service Committee, Jonah House, Baltimore Pledge of Resistance, Baltimore Emergency Response Network, and several individuals.</p>
<p>A June ACLU press release states, &#8220;Documents disclosed during a prosecution for disorderly conduct and trespass against two individuals arrested at a protest at the National Security Agency (NSA) in October 2003 indicated that a &#8216;Baltimore Intel Unit&#8217; had been monitoring protestors from these groups as they assembled and traveled to the NSA for a protest in July 2004. In order to discover the identity of this &#8216;intel unit,&#8217; and why the unit was monitoring their peaceful protest activities, the groups filed requests under the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) with several federal agencies, including the NSA, in August of 2006.&#8221;</p>
<p>The press release describes the 43 pages of summaries and computer logs. Maryland State Police&#8217;s Homeland Security and Intelligence Division sent agents to infiltrate the Baltimore Pledge of Resistance, a peace group, the Coalition to End the Death Penalty (CEDP), and the Committee to Save Vernon Evans. The surveillance continued even though there were no reports of illegal activity and consistently indicated that no violent protests were being planned. Reports of the surveillance were also sent to at least seven federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies. The press release went on to say, &#8220;Agents from the Division monitored private organizing meetings, public forums and events held in several churches, as well as anti-death penalty rallies outside the state&#8217;s SuperMax facility in Baltimore and in Lawyer&#8217;s Mall in Annapolis.&#8221;</p>
<p>The ACLU of Maryland will be filing additional requests under the Maryland Public Information Act. It called on activists across the state to find out if their organizations have been spied on. The ACLU will work with groups that are willing to provide the names of key individuals who could be listed in surveillance records to document the full extent of any surveillance and will ensure that the targets have an opportunity to review the files that relate to them and have those files purged.</p>
<p>The Washington Post reported, &#8220;Then-state police superintendent Tim Hutchins acknowledged in an interview yesterday that the surveillance took place on his watch, adding that it was done legally.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reaction to news of the surveillance was swift and negative. Hoyer&#8217;s statement said, &#8220;While it is the job of law enforcement to protect the public and keep the peace, it is difficult to understand how non-violent peace activists and opponents of the death penalty constituted a threat to public safety. We need to understand why the monitoring of these and other citizens took place — and whether any federal funds were used in support of this program.&#8221; Thompson said, &#8220;The politically motivated surveillance of dissident domestic groups that have neither a link to terrorism nor promote violence is &#8230; a deplorable use of taxpayer funds.&#8221; In addition, Maryland Gov. Martin O&#8217;Malley (D) announced an investigation to be led by civil rights attorney Stephen H. Sachs, working with State Attorney General Douglas Gansler and state police chief Col. Terrence Sheridan. The 30-60 day review is aimed at developing new intelligence guidelines.</p>
<p>(Kay Guinane 08/05/08)</p>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why the Obama Administration and DOJ ha suddenly sided with Bush on FISA? Change the "F" for foreign to a "D" for domestic under cover of darkness? I felt a lot better about FISA under the Bush admin's control than I will about it being under Obama's. Hogan invites us to:

"Consider that the report implicates as extremist or possible extremists the following:
- “Disgruntled” Military Veterans;
- Those who perceived threat from the rise of other countries;
- Gun owners/enthusiasts who are skeptical of judicial and legislative efforts to curtail their Second Amendment rights;
- Pro-life individuals and groups opposed to abortion;
- Individuals in favor of border security and stopping illegal immigration; and
- Those who discuss or believe in “end times” prophecies."

All but the first 2 describe me, with the second quickly beginning to describe me more each day. Dang, that's 5 strikes against me!

Hogan also invites us to:

"Consider the language of the last sentence suggestion that “rightwing extremism” “may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.”

With 4, and soon to be 5 strikes against me as noted above I may as well turn myself in right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why the Obama Administration and DOJ ha suddenly sided with Bush on FISA? Change the &#8220;F&#8221; for foreign to a &#8220;D&#8221; for domestic under cover of darkness? I felt a lot better about FISA under the Bush admin&#8217;s control than I will about it being under Obama&#8217;s. Hogan invites us to:</p>
<p>&#8220;Consider that the report implicates as extremist or possible extremists the following:<br />
- “Disgruntled” Military Veterans;<br />
- Those who perceived threat from the rise of other countries;<br />
- Gun owners/enthusiasts who are skeptical of judicial and legislative efforts to curtail their Second Amendment rights;<br />
- Pro-life individuals and groups opposed to abortion;<br />
- Individuals in favor of border security and stopping illegal immigration; and<br />
- Those who discuss or believe in “end times” prophecies.&#8221;</p>
<p>All but the first 2 describe me, with the second quickly beginning to describe me more each day. Dang, that&#8217;s 5 strikes against me!</p>
<p>Hogan also invites us to:</p>
<p>&#8220;Consider the language of the last sentence suggestion that “rightwing extremism” “may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.”</p>
<p>With 4, and soon to be 5 strikes against me as noted above I may as well turn myself in right now.</p>
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		<title>By: olsmithie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and you will see what he is doing now and what he will do next. It is all part of Alinsky Jiu Jitsu.

Of, course to actually enact everything he wants to do to the country he will have to confiscate all the firearms and impose censorship on the media.
All of which have been bandied about by the Demoncrats in congress already.

HR 45 , a firearm registration scheme to turn you into an overnight felon. Registration at all times in history has lead to confiscation. Either you turn in your firearms when they demand them or you become a felon for not registering them, and they wholesale your house and get them (and you!) anyway.

Then, institute what ever name you wish for the fairness doctrine to dry up the dispensing of the truth in the media, and voila! you have the old USSR.

Not meaning to sound down, but rough seas ahead.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and you will see what he is doing now and what he will do next. It is all part of Alinsky Jiu Jitsu.</p>
<p>Of, course to actually enact everything he wants to do to the country he will have to confiscate all the firearms and impose censorship on the media.<br />
All of which have been bandied about by the Demoncrats in congress already.</p>
<p>HR 45 , a firearm registration scheme to turn you into an overnight felon. Registration at all times in history has lead to confiscation. Either you turn in your firearms when they demand them or you become a felon for not registering them, and they wholesale your house and get them (and you!) anyway.</p>
<p>Then, institute what ever name you wish for the fairness doctrine to dry up the dispensing of the truth in the media, and voila! you have the old USSR.</p>
<p>Not meaning to sound down, but rough seas ahead.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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