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Why I love Sarah Palin

I love Sarah Palin. There, I’ve said it. While I’ve never met her, that is beside the point.

What is right on point however is why I love her. Sarah Palin bleeds American. She is not American simply because of an accident of birth. Rather, she understands what makes America different; she believes that America is exceptional and knows what makes it so; she is passionately pro-American without being jingoistic; she is willing to fight for what she believes regardless of who’s lined up against her; she is willing to put her credibility and reputation on the line to help others who share her views. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, she is a normal, average, regular person.

Sarah Palin did not grow up rich or attend an Ivy League school. She did not spend her life in a courtroom extorting money from corporations or small businesses. She did not spend her life in an ivory tower or in an editorial room pontificating about how the world works in some fantasy universe where government regulations make everyone pure and everything perfect in every circumstance. No, she has lived a fairly normal life, one you might call working class.

I remember back in ’88 or ’92 someone asked George H.W. Bush if he knew the price of milk, and he didn’t. He was of course pilloried for being “out of touch” with the common man. (Frankly it doesn’t bother me at all that the VP or President of the United States doesn’t know the price of milk… let someone else buy the milk, I’d rather him focus on knowing how much of our money government is wasting!) Sarah Palin probably knows the price of a gallon of milk. More importantly, she understands America from where the tire hits the road. She started out her political career at the PTA because she wanted to improve the education her children were getting. From there she spent four years on the Wasilla city council and six years as mayor. Next she was appointed to chair the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission and later defeated the incumbent to become the Governor of Alaska. In every one of those endeavors Palin showed herself to be not only capable, but effective and successful as well. Indeed, the latter two positions found her fighting an Alaska version of Tammany Hall.

She has demonstrated a willingness to fight for what she believes in, even if it is within her own party. She defeated the Murkowski machine in Alaska and she stood side by side with tea party candidates across the country in 2010, often against the wishes of the entrenched GOP establishment. Christine O’Donnell may have been a flawed candidate, but at least the citizens of Delaware had a choice between two distinctly different paths rather than the choice between the liberal and more liberal paths they would have had with Chris Coons and Mike Castle. They may have chosen bigger government, but at least for a change they had a choice, and Sarah Palin helped give them one.

Sarah Palin is also average in another way. She is not polished – or at least she wasn’t when she burst upon the national stage. She is not slick. She does not have a sound bite sized answer at the ready in case she gets asked any questions. Just the opposite, actually, often you can see her crafting an answer on the spot. The interview with Katie Couric was indeed painful to watch. The truth however is that her less than stellar performance in that and other early interviews were not signs that she was a dolt as many suggested, but rather the consequence of being thrown onto the world’s biggest stage with the klieg lights on max. You might say she was… shell-shocked. Many people, including myself, wondered how she could not name a single newspaper she read regularly or give a coherent answer on the Middle East. Knowing the answers and delivering them in front of a world wide audience are two different things. (Example: say the alphabet using nouns to represent each letter: Apple, Barrel, Continent etc. Now imagine having to do it in 20 seconds in front of 1,000 people and your job rests on your success…) Her poor performance communicated more about her interview preparation than her qualification to be President. Indeed a week later she outperformed Joe Biden in their debate, and few lefties would argue he was unqualified to be President. Her early performances were those of someone whose persona was not forged in front of camera. I’ll take someone who is right on the issues but flubs an interview 10 times out of 10…

And the issues are where Sarah Palin shines. Like Ronald Reagan, she understands that government is the problem more often than the solution. She understands that low taxes and fiscal discipline are an absolute necessity as government has no money other than that which it takes from taxpayers. She understands that Barack Obama was right when he suggested the Constitution “Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf…” The difference is that to Obama and the left, that’s the problem whereas Sarah Palin understands that that is why the Constitution exists in the first place. She understands that an unconstrained government will continue to grow and usurp powers until eventually it strangles the life out of its citizens and our republic.

In addition to the issues, Sarah Palin seems to be made of steel. She has undergone a seemingly unending barrage of mocking and criticism to a degree that perhaps no other American politician has had to endure in modern times. Through it all however she has carried herself with grace, good humor and most importantly, she has understood that the issue is not her, it’s the country. The fact that she is willing to stand up and respond to the left – particularly the media – should not be seen as a symptom of being thin-skinned or even petty, but rather a desire to keep the focus where it should be, on policy and Constitutional government.

So the reasons I love Sarah Palin are thus: She knows what it will take to put the country back on solid economic footing. She’s a rabid Constitutionalist who will rein in the federal government. She will let American interests and the interests of the American people dictate American foreign policy rather than looking to international bodies for direction. She understands the importance of free markets, free trade and energy independence. She believes in American exceptionalism, and perhaps most of all, she understands that individual responsibility is the cornerstone of upon which character, community and country are built. Without that everything else collapses.

2012 is going to be the most important election in more than a century. Our nation has been shaken to its very foundations by an onslaught of government encroachment and unprecedented fiscal irresponsibility. In times like these, when those basic fundamental things that made America great in the first place are the very things being undermined, we would be lucky to have a ticket headed by someone who truly understands what it’s like to live and thrive as an average American, someone who didn’t spend most of her adult life in the insulated and unrealistic universe of liberalism consisting of courtrooms, college classrooms and the corridors of power that make up Washington D.C.

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  • conservativecurmudgeon

    We know more ABOUT where Sarah Palin stands on the issues you’ve mentioned than ANY other candidate. She’s been extraordinarily candid about what she believes, she does not temporize, she does not dither. We know more about Sarah Palin, certainly, than we knew about George W. Bush in 2000.

    So far, the only strikes against her seem to be straw-dogs concocted by her most ferocious enemies: She’s too polarizing, she’s “unelectable”, she’s a “quitter”. ALL of these have been manufactured by, or in response to, the vicious smears from the left– that have been appropriated by some on the right that don’t want to get tarred with her everyman persona.

    If she gets in, the race immediately gets REALLY interesting.

    • ruexperienced

      She is unelectable. She is polarizing and she is a quitter.

      Those things are not manufactured by the left.

      People on both sides may disagree as to whether she is electable or not.

      But both sides agree she is polarizing. The Palin people love that about her… “She is not afraid to tell it like it is” “She puts everybody in their place!”

      And she did quit after two short years, right after an email to her aide that said, “I HATE THIS JOB!”

      • Finrod

        Lots of people whose opinions were more respected than yours said the same or worse about Ronald Reagan.

        So I’m giving your opinion the due consideration it deserves, which is none.

      • conservativecurmudgeon

        I don’t even know what “unelectable” means, when the election in question is nearly two years away. Do you have a crystal ball? Do you know the contours of the current events that will dominate in November, 2012? Two months ago, Gabrielle Griffords was making all the headlines, then Egypt, and so on. History abhors a vacuum, as does election cycles.

        I suspect you are referring to “polls” taken by various groups or institutions that show Sarah Palin lagging in public opinion (usually against straw-man opponents like Charlie Sheen and Lucifer). I doubt Dale Carnegie would fare well after two years of zealous, non-stop, withering, insulting, degrading attacks. Further, these “polls” are unscientific samplings of “adults”, which is rather akin to polling trained pigeons.

        And, while my mind is slipping of late, I am fairly confident that Sarah Palin was elected to the Wasilla City Council, and twice elected Mayor. And, I am fairly certain she won the GOP Gubernatorial Primary, and then won the General Election for Governor of Alaska. So, I think she is, by definition, “electable”.

        The left began attacking Sarah Palin about 10 minutes (literally) after she was selected by John McCain as his running mate. The attacks have not relented. She has simply responded to these attacks in ways that make eminent sense to me: I would have quit the governor’s office too, in her shoes: At the time, she wasn’t a wealthy woman to pony up the funds to defend herself in court in a 24/7 manner the ethics complaints would have required. She well served her constituents by stepping aside, so that the business of governance could proceed apace.

        The Left knew what the stakes were vis-a-vis Sarah Palin: If a strong, coherent, young, conservative woman came along, and captured the attention of the electorate, it would rip the heart out of the Potemkin coalition the Left has spent 50 years building: Mainly, that THEY are the proper representatives of women’s interests, which they empirically are not. So, Sarah Palin had to be destroyed at all costs.

        It is so sad when those on the right join in this narrative, when, to this day, I’ve still not seen, or read, or been introduced to, a single thing that shows Sarah Palin to be other than what she seems: A strong, coherent, solid movement-style conservative. I think she deserves, at the very least, the same circumspection that we’ve afforded all the social squishes over the years. What’s the harm in that?

        • gop2010

          …because she has shown a talent for reform. I want the entirety of the federal executive branch turned upside down and slashed to the bone. Palin is the only candidate I can see actually doing this, actually stepping on the toes that will (inevitably) be stepped upon and ignoring the bad press and anonymous backbiting that will issue from both Republican and Democat offices. (And no, she doesn’t respond to every criticism. The volume is such that she physically can’t. She’s become much more choosy about her responses both from experience and necessity.)

          She has courage, a quality that is essential in a leader, She combines a conservative orientation with a get-it-done pragmatism, something many of the other potential candidates cannot claim.. The constant stream of inanity leveled at her by the pop media has helped toughen her skin and the criticism by the tastemakers in the GOP has helped sharpen her focus. I agree with all her policy positions. If she performs well in the primary contests, debates and interviews, I see no reason why she wouldn’t be a formidable general-election candidate.

          • acat

            and if you look at the record Palin had in Alaska, busting the networks was about the only part she got right. She did not lower taxes, she did not decrease expenses. She put the plane on eBay but it did not sell. Pawlenty *cut* taxes and *cut* spending and did it in a Blue State. That’s called competence.

            She’s got courage.. well, so do Pawlenty and Christie – just for running in states so dominated by Dems, and for having the stones to force cuts in both. You know Christie’s gotten death threats .. would be surprised if Pawlenty hasn’t…

            The constant stream of stupid from the media hasn’t casued any toughening of the skin I can see – Palin lashes out at the slightest provocation from the elder Bushes or others … all having a larger megaphone has meant is that her bristling has gotten louder.

            She’d be a formidable primary candidate, but the tendency to make it “all about Palin” would work against her in the general election… instead of a referendum on Obama and/or the Dems, we’d get a referendum on Palin – and, as Becker’s poll numbers continue to show – that’s not one she can win.

            Mew

          • gop2010

            my reply failed. Please see below.

      • David123

        As conservativecurmudgeon stated, Palin has been elected numerous times. Also, McCain was mostly behind Obama in the polls until he picked Palin, at which point the McCain-Palin ticket surged ahead and stayed there until McCain suspended his campaign during the financial meltdown.

        To the extent that Palin is “unelectable” it’s because of the relentless lies and Alinski attacks she’s been subjected to. Here is my big worry – if we nominate someone else – say Pawlenty, he’ll be subjected to the same kind of baseless charges that Palin was. So what’s the advantage in nominating someone other than Palin?

        Polarizing? Anyone we nominate, except Dede Scozzafava, is going to be “polarizing”.

        Quitter?
        1. Certainly prodded to quit by massive baseless leftist attacks.
        2. Barrack Obama “quit” as senator to be president – didn’t finish the 6-year term the people of Illinois elected him to. And he got paid to be a senator while he was out campaigning. Maybe he should have “quit” when he started campaigning instead of drawing a taxpayer salary for the time period when he spent precious little time in the Senate.

        • aesthete

          in the Republican Party is as radioactive as Sarah Palin, including the jerk who ran for President last time, the last sitting President, and all of our CongressCritters except for Bachmann, it would seem that this is a problem specific to precisely two GOPers, *not* a problem that would replicate itself with Pawlenty or any other GOPer.

          She’s sure as heck going to be “prodded to quit” by “baseless leftist attacks” if she’s elected President, moreso than she was as AK’s Gov or as mayor of Podunk, AK. Barack Obama is a) a model that we should *run* from, not emulate, and b) was offered a better job in the field. He didn’t run away because of some flack that he got as IL’s Senator. Nothing that Palinistas say about the incident has never made sense — you’re better off cutting your losses and just acknowledging that it’s concerning. Hey, it’s better than regurgitating a set of talking points that you yourself probably don’t really believe.

          • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

            What does aesthete mean anyway? Me and my friends don’t never use that word. I think U R wrong to think ur so much smarter then other peple.

            Maybe you hadn’t realized that she’s the most well-vetted presidential candidate in the history of the United States. We don’t even know if Obama was rilly born in Chicago or like Africa.

          • aesthete

            and references to gays and tattoos :)

          • Doc Holliday

          • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison
          • conservativecurmudgeon

            1) Sarah Palin is, in your judgement, “radioactive”. By virtue of what? According to whom? I am in no sense sold on the candidacy of Sarah Palin, but, I find the categorical dismissiveness of her by some on the right absolutely fascinating. And revealing.

            What has caused this? An interview with Katie Couric that virtually no one saw? (-I still haven’t seen it). I’ve seen dozens of interviews, and set-pieces with Palin, and I’ve seen a person who is poised, if a little long-winded and less precise than I would like. (But, then again, a Reagan press conference could be a constant cringe-inducing event, as well.) In spite of this, I’ve never heard her utter a single thing with which, on a substantive, philosophical level, I didn’t agree with (-I take that back; when she was unduly obsequious and fawning over Hillary Clinton’s “34-million cracks” in the glass ceiling, my gag reflex got going a little).

            2) “Podunk” Alaska? That’s the same sort of reverse xenophobia I would expect from the Left, not a thinking, introspective conservative. In large measure, I blame the problems of our nation and it’s culture on its embrace of soulless, anonymous, hyper-urbanism: It is isolating, corrupting and deadly.

            3) “Palinistas”? Rather pejorative, no?

            4) I think Palin has been candid and straightforward about why she left the Governorship. Why stay in the Governor’s chair in Alaska when she had an understudy that shared her world-view and political governing style? This is what a principled person does: It could even be called “sacrifice”. It wouldn’t have made any sense, though, if her Lieutenant had been a liberal, or a weakling. But, he’s a Palin-style conservative.

            In sum, I am still waiting for evidence that Sarah Palin isn’t as I perceive her. Is she a closet liberal? A Good-Government eastern establishment patrician in disguise? An air-head? I am perfectly willing to be shown the evidence, and make judgements based on it. But, nearly everything of hers that I’ve read, and almost every public pronouncement she’s made comports with my first principles and political world-view.

          • aesthete

            1) I think you read this one wrong: it’s not a value judgement on my part, it’s an observation that the majority of people in this country are repelled by Palin, and have been since around the end of the ’08 campaign. This is a phenomena that is unique to Palin, and to an extent, Bachmann. David123 contends that any of our GOPers would be subject to the same level of scorn from those same people; I pointed out that the vast majority of GOPers (including John McCain) are not seen in this light by the voting public — whether this should be the case or not, is immaterial to the point that I was making, but to clarify I can think of many GOPers and Dems who, in a just world, would have lower approval numbers than Palin.

            2+3) Retracted with my apology. I will, instead, substitute those pejoratives with an observation. Palin’s mayorship of Wasilla is not comparable to mayorship of a metropolis any more than mayorship of the Shire was comparable (or scalable) to Stewardship of Gondor. The budget and stakes that she handled were very small, the job was low-pressure, and the position did not entail many hard choices. That’s not an indictment of rural life, in some ways it’s quite the opposite: it’s a realization that government doesn’t play a large role in the lives of most suburbanites and rural dwellers.

            4) That’s bs: if Obama left the Presidency today because of stress, he would be branded as a coward for doing so, at least in some circles. In other, more sympathetic, progressive circles, he would be patronized, lionized, and accepted — but never allowed to pursue a position that required similar or higher levels of responsibility than that of the Presidency. This would be the case whether his successor were a raging liberal or a pusillanimous moderate: whatever the case, Obama would have given up the fight, shown weakness, and shown a potential for tiring that is unacceptable unless he can do the same sort of job without cracking. Palin’s resignation is a similar case: we have no assurances that she would not bail if stressed, and that would be bad whether or not her successor were to be conservative or moderate. The Duke of Swabia cannot resign only to try to become Holy Roman Emperor.

            BTW, what is a “Palin-style conservative”, and how is Parnell one? Last I heard, he was working with the legislature to find ways to dismantle two of Palin’s three main accomplishments: the ACES tax scheme and the ethics bill.

            Palin is not any of those things: she’s simply a very standard AK governor who spent a lot of AK’s money in very foolish and short-sighted ways when tax revenues were high, just like the rest of them. That doesn’t make her Satan incarnate, but it sure doesn’t make her Joan of Arc. I will try to get back to you with evidence, but honestly, I’ll probably just link to one of my prior comments on the issue instead. I think that you’re a smart guy, and I greatly enjoy your writings and postings on RS, but you and many other conservatives seem to have a serious blind spot when it comes to Palin and her actual record.

          • chihank

            For a GOPer who is more radioactive than would probably be Newt. His approval numbers are currently comparable to Palin. I guess the reason Newt is not as polarizing as Palin is that Newt is “old news”.

          • conservativecurmudgeon

            In reference to your 2 and 3: Why is it that I keep wanting a Will Whitfoot, but keep getting stuck with Denethor?

          • DonPMitchell

            It’s always great to spend time with normal average folks. It’s why we invite friends and neighbors to a BBQ, but it’s not why we elect someone to be President of the United States. In the Whitehouse, I want someone extraordinary, brilliant, and knowledgable about history and world affairs. Having a first rate education from the finest universities in America is not a negative attribute.

          • gop2010

            I know this firsthand: a lot of Ivy grads are insufferable spoiled brats. Others are amazing people. Unfortunately you can’t tell from the diploma which is which.

            What college did Reagan go to, again? How about Lincoln?

          • Ann_W

            I’m sure she’s improved since becoming a pundit, but watching her in the debate w/ Biden was very painful. She didn’t come across as someone who understood and responded to questions, but as someone who recognized a few key phrases in the question and spit out the memorized response.

            My experience w/ Ivy Leaguers and other college grads makes me think that there are about as many spoiled brats at other schools, too. Societal norms for raising children make lots of them end up as spoiled brats, rich or not.

      • Tbone
  • edwyrd

    by who and what they ridicule the most.

    their worst fear is that sarah will gain a rockstar statis not unlike obama in ’08. i am surprized that we don’t see this potential as well.
    i hope she runs.

    • 20jan2013

      What a wordsmith!

      You are absolutely right in your headline. Perhaps Palin would be our best candidate, simply because of how much meltdown I gleefully observe among the LSM and the libnuts whenever her name comes up.

      I like pretty much all the possible candidates out there except Romney.

    • ruexperienced

      The liberals would be tickled pink to have a Christine O’Donnell at the top of the GOP ticket.

      Congressional Republican candidates ran over 100 ads in 2010 featuring Nancy Pelosi.

      If Palin is the candidate, all 435 Democrat candidates will feature their opponents next to Sarah Palin.

      • edwyrd

        to get completely serious, the marketing component of politics has overwhelmed any sense of logic.
        the libs know their almost absolute control over the media (their “branding machine”) allows them the priviledge of framing the debate and branding whatever (and i mean WHATEVER) obama does as “good”, while branding as bad, meaningless or foolish anyone or anything they so choose (usually political opponents). such is the power of the liberal media, and such is the formidability of the task which will confront any candidate whom challenges obama or, for that matter, the liberal agenda in general.

        i submit that in 2008 the potential popularity of sarah palin led the LSM to work tirelessly to BRAND her as silly, irrelevant and whorish, which they succeeded at grandly. And now, why not collect on some of that marketing capitol which they so effectively spent in slandering her. So, yes, her presence in the presidential debate would profit the liberal block. i absolutely agree.
        the question is, can sarah overcome or even reverse the branding? I seriously doubt it.

        • ruexperienced

          You said: “n 2008 the potential popularity of sarah palin led the LSM to work tirelessly to BRAND her as silly, irrelevant and whorish, which they succeeded at grandly”

          So what did Palin do in the next two years to combat that image?

          She quit her job as governor, went on a celebrity tour, got her own reality show, gets in tabloid spats with other celebrities and soaks up the attention on Dancing With the Stars

  • okiejim

    Who else stands out as a potential candidate in 2012 that is not part of the old guard establishment? Who else has not been afraid to tell it like it is. Americans are so tired of politics as usual that Sarah should be the only choice for 2012. She is electable, knowledgable, likeable and strong, as in not wimpy. And, she is a pioneer women cut from the same cloth that the women who helped found the American west were cut from. I would certainly rather her have at my side in a gun fight than any of the other potential candidates in 2012.

    • ruexperienced

      People do NOT find her knowledgeable. Show me any area of thought where she has distinguished herself as an expert?

      They do NOT find her likable. People find her petty, mean and vindictive. Like a poster said earlier on this thread, he likes Palin because she ‘throws it back in their faces.’ That may make her more likable to you, but not to the pubic.

      • Finrod

        President Giuliani and Senators Coakley and Crist can tell you all about that.

        Again, at this stage of the game 32 years ago, Jimmy Carter led Ronald Reagan by 40 points in the polls, and we all know how that turned out.

        • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

          The meaningless polls are the “head-to-head” variety.

          Polls that measure F/U ratings over time however, are meaningful especially where you’re dealing with people who have high name recognition.

          Palin has higher name recognition than anybody out there. Her F/U ratings with independents are consistently bad and going down. Her ratings with Republicans, and especially base Republicans, are meaningless. I wouldn’t be at all shocked if she is able to pull out win for the nomination, especially if it’s a big field. What won’t happen though, is for her Unfavorables to turn into Favs with the Indies for the general. In order to win the primary, she’ll be feeding the base red meat and one-liners. That will just make things worse in the general.

          Oh, and while Barrack may be close to Jimmy, Palin is no Reagan. In any sense of the term.

          • ruexperienced

            Reagan was Teflon.

            Palin is Velcro.

      • http://westforwestwing2012.com heartlander

        …that the “normal, ordinary person” brand that Sarah enjoys could backfire — in the sense that few people actually regard themselves as “ordinary.” We all like to think we are exceptional, or at least, we are striving to be exceptional. I remember when I was in high school, our senior year, we voted various individuals “Most Dependable,” “Most Athletic,” “Most Likely to Succeed,” etc. One of the “prizes” was “Most Typical.” The girl who won that was a very sweet gal — and I remember feeling bad for her, because even though it was not meant as an insult, who wants to go down in history as “Most Typical”?

        Mind you, I don’t think Sarah Palin is “typical” at all; I think she’s exceptional. But the point of the author I’m referring to was that selling Sarah as “normal” and “ordinary” may be a huge tactical mistake.

  • Goldwater_Conservative

    she is freelancing around the world, getting into cat fights with Kathy Griffin and whining about Julianne Moore being cast as her. Her and her daughter try and copyright, yes that

    • earlgrey

      the truth hurts, but we need people to start telling it.

    • taylerdog23

      nice work, G_C.

      And as for the Diarist’s view that, “In addition to the issues, Sarah Palin seems to be made of steel” — well I couldn’t disagree more. She never misses an opportunity to publicly bristle at criticism of her and thus reinforce the idea that she is weak and reactionary. Sure many of the things that are said about her are unfair, but do you really want 4 years of incessant White House statements from President Palin pushing back on everything negative that’s said about her?

      I used to be a fan of SP, but in my opinion she is nothing more than a narcissistic quitter who offers mostly empty platitudes and is consumed by snarkily responding to her detractors while always playing The Victim.

      • Goldwater_Conservative

        is when she quit. To borrow a line from Zell Miller, she is going to war with liberals with spit balls instead of fighting them from the exeuctive seat of one of the 50 states of this great country. Talk is cheap, and therefore so is Palin. It would be one thing if she had never been elected, but the people of Alaska gave her the golden opportunity to fight liberalism where it really mattered and for 4 years and she bailed on her responsiblities to go make money for herself.

        • http://westforwestwing2012.com heartlander

          She quit because Alaska’s unique ethics laws made it possible for Obama flunkies to file frivolous ethics complaints against her (not a single one had merit; all were dismissed), and fighting the charges was taking up to 90 percent of her and her staff’s time! She felt that spending only 10 percent of her and her staff’s time actually governing the state was ripping off the voters and taxpayers of Alaska, and that it was actually unethical for her to keep drawing a paycheck on their dime when she only had 10 percent of her time available to do what they’d elected her to do.

          Unfortunately, this is at least the twentieth time I’ve explained this — on CONSERVATIVE blogs. If even conservatives remain so ignorant about the real reasons she quit, I tend to think there’s no hope of convincing the “independents.” And, bummer that it is, the fact is, that is the constituency we have to win over if we want to win the general election — especially since we have to compensate for all the cheating, bribery, blackmail and wholesale fraud that the Obama machine will be doing in order to steal the election. (Think: Reid machine on steroids!)

          • acat
          • rightwingmom52

            If so, isn’t Palin entitled to the same?

          • aesthete

            see any reason to give Romney a pass for the defining policy of his Governorship.

          • acat

            I would vote for either Romney or Palin in the general, but it would be while wearing my John McCain noseplugs.

            We have to do better.

            Mew

          • Goldwater_Conservative

            frivoulous ethics complaints forced her to leave office, we are supposed to believe that if she became President of the US she would have smooth sailing in office? When the going gets tough, the tough get going, and Palin got lost. Sorry, you can spin it however you want, but quitting is quitting and that sure doesnt set you up for a Presidential run.

          • aesthete

            If that’s true, then she and/or her staff are just incompetent, both for not being able to run a government under normal operating conditions, and for coming up with the law in question, getting it to pass in the legislature, and signing it. For crying out loud, even Nixon and Clinton had things going on while they were being tried and impeached — conservatives have (rightly) given them no slack for the actions that they did or did not take during that time. Reagan and pretty much every US President has had to deal with ethics scandals and military scandals: not being able to deal with them is, well, a big deal.

          • rightwingmom52

            to the constant attacks Palin was while in office, and I’d hardly call the conditions under which she was operating “normal.” Plus President Bush certainly had the full support of the Republican Party behind him (not all conservatives, mind you). Palin did not. Perhaps if she had, she would’ve at least had more options.

          • aesthete

            in AK and the ethics issues in AK that she had to face (and the way in which she attempted to resolve them) would have earned any mid-level executive in a Fortune 500 corp the pink slip. The only unusual condition was the bizarre hatred of her that the left had; that will continue to be a factor in 2012, and there’s no indication that she’s any better at dealing with ethics charges, running and cutting government, or even media relations than she was in 2008. We shouldn’t elect Presidents based on how much they’ve suffered, and I don’t see any reason that Palin should be an exception.

          • rightwingmom52

            Have any of the trumped up ethics charges stuck? But this feels like beating a dead horse, and I’m not even necessarily on the Palin bandwagon. I just hate to see the attacks on our own from our own. They seem to me to be a bit more vicious against her than other candidates except for maybe Paul, and Palin is surely not in the same category as he. I’m as far from a feminist as you can get, but to be totally honest, the attacks on Palin raise my feminine hackles.

          • aesthete

            the investigation is still in progress — and probably will be until 2012, conveniently enough. I understand your qualms about eating our own. I probably don’t entirely understand where you are coming from vis a vis the feminist angle (at least, as far as attacks on Palin from the political right go), but it doesn’t seem to be your main angle, either. Speaking for myself, I don’t have any theological or other problems with a woman as President: a good 3 of 4 of my favorite workplace supervisors have been women, and my favorite Cold War-era leader to this day is Margaret Thatcher (sorry, Reagan).

            To clarify: I do not have a problem with Palin in her current role, but I do think that too many conservatives are willfully blind on the subject of Palin in a way that they would not be with, say, Romney (and for good reason). I don’t care too much about that; my job isn’t to correct every blind spot that everyone in our movement has. It is a problem when it comes to a potential Presidential run: Palin does not have much of a record, but what she does have is not particularly impressive, and we need someone with a proven ability to cut government spending and to get a conservative agenda implemented. There is a lot of intensity when it comes to the subject of Palin, unfortunately (I myself have made some rash posts on the subject), and the debate has pitted me against some people on RS who I agree with and respect quite a bit of the time. Nonetheless, we have an obligation to find the best person for the job, and Palin is simply not it, judging by her record.

          • rightwingmom52
          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            Action was stopped on the troopergate complaint only because she resigned. The emails in question are due to be released in May, the AG in Alaska has refused to release them about a dozen times and supposedly May will be the drop dead date for release.

            When those come out, the likelihood is that her political career is done.

        • Tbone
          • Goldwater_Conservative

            I would actually consider not voting on. Every single other candidate I would certianly vote for in the general including Paul, but I would have to think about it with her.

          • Tbone

            Republican. What are you doing here?

          • acat

            because if he is, this cat is voting green party.

            Mew

          • Tbone

            I would never do that.

          • acat

            a vote for Obama.

            And yet, you’re not even seriously evaluating them

            Mew

          • Tbone

            And Why?

          • acat

            But, since you asked nicely…

            Barbour has a good combination of pragmatic election experience, fiscal conservative know-how, and social conservative cred. Admittedly, since he hasn’t given birth to a down syndrome baby, Palin’s cred is better, and I think Barbour has an accent and anti-southern bias to overcome, but could do well. (Clinton managed it, after all)

            Cain would be great on the stump, he can work a crowd, and his top tier radio show should act similarly to Reagan’s 1976 to 1980 career as an editorial writer – that is, the people who pay attention during off years have an idea who he is. Similar to Barbour, Cain has a “southern” bias as well as a racial bias to overcome, but I suspect (as Zoot pointed out) this may well work to his advantage.

            Christie is an impressive speaker but isn’t running. Fishing for the draft is not the same as running, and should not, IMO, be rewarded. Let him finish cleaning up New Jersey, or at least his first term as governor, and then appoint him to a meaningful cabiinet post to boost his visibility.

            Daniels has not left the building, much to the consternation of some social conservatives. His current strategy could lock up the nomination – all he has to do is club Romney with Romneycare in New Hampshire, then lay out his social conservative bona fides prior to Super Tuesday and he could be the consensus guy. Yeah, he’s terrible to listen to, and I don’t know that he could win, but he’s not toast *enough* yet. (what I don’t like about Daniels is that he can’t – like Romney – seem to turn the right way on a dime – they both tend to make misteaks when circumstances change…)

            Pawlenty will be the one to beat. He’s not fire-breathing enough for some, but I don’t see pitting “our” rock star against theirs – I want a guy who can do the job, a guy who can answer the call and make the decision at 3:00am, not a guy who can rock out until 3:00am and then phone it in the next day. His socon cred is good, his ficon cred is arguably the best in the race – Minnesota’s quite blue and yet Pawlenty cut cut cut – and he’s learning how to give a better speech.

            Mew

          • acat

            who is not currently declared and who I don’t think is going to run but .. who ought to reconsider.

            Jeb Bush.

            Former Governor, did well fiscally, social conservative cred are good enough – although he’s got some walk-back to do on immigration – and he certainly has a network of folk who will return his calls.

            I don’t like the idea of dynastic politics, which is what Bush 3.0 feels like, but .. he’d be better than any of the 2008 retread clown posse.

            Mew

          • Tbone

            http://www.redstate.com/tbone/2011/02/08/wherein-tbone-posits-the-2012-ticket/

          • acat

            Yet.

            Mew

          • gop2010

            …I do not believe he can successfully fight Obama. He’s too Minnesota Nice. He’s going to look like a pale echo next to The Won. The Left is going to pull out all the stops and T-Paw is just not ready for the volume of slime. Palin is.

            Palin did lower expenses in Alaska. Her 2010 budget was lower than Murkowski’s 2007 budget. She slashed earmarks and reduced overall federal subsidies to the state. She did ultimately sell the plane, even though it didn’t sell on eBay. (And yes, I do know more of Palin than just the stuff discussed in the 2008 campaign.)

            Her skin is most certainly thicker. She ignored Chris Christie until his fourth time publicly criticizing her (the only thing she’d previously said about him in public was complimentary). She’s said nothing about Kathy Griffin or Ricky Hollywood in nearly a year. She ignored the HBO movie, Bill Maher, and the trifecta last week of CK, Will and Wehner. Last year she would have responded, but she’s learned. Her response to the Tucson shootings was described by even the National Review as “dignified” and polls of those who watched the response indicate it improved their opinion of her. She’s gotten past the phase where she has to defend herself and is learning to let others defend her. She is now reserving criticism for other politicians, as she should

          • Ann_W

            That doesn’t make sense to me. It seems that when people start hearing solutions to the issues that will still be plaguing us, they probably appreciate the contrast.

            Full-disclosure– Cain is my favorite, but Pawlenty seems like a good option as well.

          • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

            For one thing, I know you don’t really mean it.

            It’s tough to find someone who opposes RP more than I do, but because the probability of Dr. Strangeglove being our nominee is roughly equivalent to the probability of spontaneous human combustion, talking about GOP defection in any circumstance isn’t all that fruitful.

            The truth is that everyone here will vote for the Republican nominee in 2012. Period. The big difference between candidates regarding the base isn’t whether we will vote for him or her (We will) but how hard we will work to replicate our vote through activism, GOTV, and donations. In the end, that will win or lose the election, which is why certain candidates (RomNet, for example) carry pretty serious risks with the base.

          • acat

            That’s my line in the sand. If it makes Tbone a better Red Stater than I am, then welcome to the title and call the mods. Probably prettier than I am too, so throw in beauty queen as well.

            The simple fact is that if the GOP nominates a losing candidate, as we’ve done repeatedly (Dole? McCain? Bush 1.0?) we’re going to lose… and as long as Conservatives insist on dividing and failing in the primary, that’s where we’re going to stay – loserville, whining about how “if we’d just all gotten behind X” …

            And if the GOP go so far off the rails to nominate Ron Paul, I won’t vote for him.

            All the down-ticket races? No problem. Straight R. Not Ron Paul.

            Mew

          • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

            I just think that the hypothetical is so unrealistic that it doesn’t deserve mention, which you’ve basically said in the past (I think).

          • acat

            For one thing, Ron Paul’s people have grabbed onto ColdWarrior’s Precinct Project with both hands….

            Mew

          • Finrod

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    • 20jan2013

      But I can’t disagree.

      Yet I still love her and would walk into hell with a gasoline can to vote for her. OK maybe I would skip voting that day if it involved walking into actual hell with actual gasoline, but you get my drift.

      She is not my first choice, but Obama is certainly my last.

    • rightwingmom52

      and neither was her show. From everything I’ve seen, she is a happily married, faithful wife and loving mother. Her show was clean and certainly fit for family viewing. Comparing her to the whorish desperate housewives characters is a cheap shot, and sounds like the kind of attacks Dems make. I hadn’t heard her comments about Griffin and Moore, but after reading them, I really don’t see any catfights or whining. Sounds to me like she handled both with humor, and as a conservative Christian woman whose ideals are constantly under attack and undermined by Hollywood in every way possible, I wouldn’t mind if Griffin’s career tanked and she was never heard from again.

      • Goldwater_Conservative

        is a nobody, in fact thats her stick. She makes fun of herself as someone on the “d-list” meaning she is a no one or has been. So the bottom line is you dont respond to a nobody, you let it go. Part of the reason the MSM and celebrties are obsessed with Palin is because she actually takes their bait every single time they set it out there. Even nobodys like Griffin will say Palin is a this, and a that and sure enough here she comes and says no I’m not who are you….catfight ensues.

        And on the good clean morals…first of all her “flippin” tv show was bad, I dont like people that code curse any more than I like those that straight up curse. And I have two daughters and never in their wildest dreams would they use the kind of foul language her daughers have used on facebook. I’m not one to go around and play I’m more moral than you, but when it comes to her and her family I can safely say my family not only knows right from wrong, but we live it as well.

        • rightwingmom52

          about the language (i.e., flippin’), and I admit that in the heat of my rant, I had forgotten about it. Although we did enjoy the show, my husband and I discussed that very thing and wished she had not used it. I also admit I might feel differently about her show if we had kids still at home watching with us. I haven’t seen the daughters facebook pages, but I’ll take your word for it. Unfortunately, although I’ve taught my son better, he’s used language and I’m sure done other things I don’t approve of. That doesn’t make me a bad parent, and I still say Sarah is nothing like a desperate housewife.

          I agree with you on your characterization of Griffin as well, but from what I read of Palin’s comment, she was asked a question and gave an answer that was short with a stab at humor. I just don’t see the big deal with that. It’s not as if she called a press conference to give a statement about it. I guess I take it a little personal when Palin is attacked since it so often seems to be done so on a feminine basis and not on the issues, so I personally enjoy it when she dishes it right back. If somebody actually said about me and my family some of the things they’ve said about Palin and hers, I’d have a hard time staying as cool as she does.

          • Goldwater_Conservative

            I’ll will say what she said wasnt really note worthy except she should know by now she is sarah palin, as soon as she said it its headline news and everyone is reading about her response to Griffin. That means griffin got what she wanted which was front page news.

      • Goldwater_Conservative

        facebook page. btw I dont really have as much of a problem with the supposed “homophobic” language as I do the vulgarity

        http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/11/17/willow_palin_facebook_rant/

  • http://westforwestwing2012.com heartlander

    …is the existential threat to this country from Islam, which takes many forms — an EMP-generating nuke from Iran; a Mumbai or Beslan type attack from al-Qaeda; simultaneous attacks all over the country after the Hezbollah “sleeper” cells already here get the attack command from Iran; all the ways that CAIR, ISNA, Muslim Students Association, ICNA, etc., are carrying out “civilizational jihad” by undermining us from within and scoring victories for shariah law right here in the U.S.; infiltration or co-optation of our universities, homeland security and intelligence services, military, all three branches of government, police forces, entertainment and news media, etc., by radical Muslim elements, etc. etc.

    If someone can show me anyone out there besides Allen West who KNOWS, NAMES and is willing to do whatever it takes to DEFEAT that enemy, I’ll be happy to give them a look.

  • 20jan2013

    and she IS right on the issues, but there are going to be some other Republican candidates who are also right on the issues but more eloquent and better able to challenge Obama and win the general. I wish her the best; she may be the only one who can reconcile the warring Huckabee and Romney factions in our party. But she is not my #1 choice for President.

  • student14

    To equally detail another candidate’s or the president’s record, abilities and endurance is probably impossible. Sarah Palin have been vetted, arguably, more than politician in our country’s history.

    She has with stood it all. Some of my conservatives friends are worried about her electability. Come again? name one candidate who’s the media isn’t going to try and destroy simply because they’re challenging Obama? So far, they’ve been setting their sights on Palin. And she’s thrown it all back in their face.

    The right should be standing strong next to her cheering her on. Instead when it gets really tough we scatter and run away; leaving her standing alone to defend herself and the conservative principles (Tucson was a shocking example of that).

    Great article. I enjoyed reading it.

    Palin 2012.

  • wodiej

    Great article. In her defense about the question on what she reads. I heard her in an interview being asked why she didn’t name any magazines. She said of course she knew what magazines she read. It just made her angry that they asked her because they were trying to make her look stupid. She said she should have handled it differently but she was new on the national stage and let it get under her skin. But your explanation makes sense as well. That is one of the reasons we love her.

    God Bless You Gov. Palin, your family and God Bless America.

  • silkywiley

    My spouse thinks she hokey and her voice is grating. I love her. I pray the republican will get out of the way and let her be the nominee. They just might, they are all scared to take on Obama and his billion dollars. They just might think that they are letting her fall on her sword.

    She makes the most coherent policy statements, she’s pro-American, she is not confused.

    I would rather die on the hill under the summit with a true conservative warrior and an authentic American.

    Republicans–please please give us the true choice. Progressive against Conservative. You won’t believe the turn out.

  • http://hrh40.wordpress.com/ hrh40

    Name them.

    Or your comment is irrelevant white noise.

  • deevee

    Because she steps up to the plate and defends American values.

    She is fearless in standing up for what is right regardless of what others throw at her.

    She is a true statesman.

  • sp4prez

    Great article.We need more of this kind of article around here. No other candidate even comes close.

  • Remington_Steele

    but I’m not going to vote for her in the primary. How’s that for yet more irrelevant white noise?

  • harpsichord

    I think she was a very positive force in the 2010 Republican success…….

    BUT, what I really like is listening to the gymnastics that occur after “conservatives” say “but”. I think that she is so viciously attacked by Dems and the media (redundancy alert) and “elite” for a very good reason. They KNOW she can win.

  • 20jan2013

    It’s too early to tell, but I’m sure there will be some other Republican candidates! As they declare, I will let you know.

  • acat

    I do not see her record as governor of a small-population state with some very strange fiscal policies as particularly “conservative”.

    I have not heard the end of the “troopergate” issue… is there a final verdict?

    I like what she says but with the caveat that she’s a politician and I’m her target demographic…. of course I like what she says, but I’m not going to vote based on what any candidate *says* so much as on what they’ve *done*.

    At this time, I would prefer Gov. Pawlenty and Gov. Barbour over Gov. Palin.

    Mew

  • runner12

    But I am not sure that she can win the election. The media has been very successful at polarizing her to the point where the majority of people who do not like her don’t even have a clue why they don’t like her.

    I think she should stick to what she is doing now, being a conservative activist.

    That being said, it was a thoughtful diary and I am going to recommend it.

  • http://www.voteforteri2010.com teridavisnewman

    I think she rocks because we are a lot alike and I would rather die fighting with her than live under the rule of the Commie Obama and the corrupt bastards Reid and Pelosi (and many more). GO GET THEM SARAH.

  • David123

    One argument seems to be “her negatives are so high she can’t win.” Well let’s think this one through. Sarah Palin enjoyed very high approval ratings as governor.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/851orcjq.asp?page=1

    She is not overwhelmingly popular among the vast majority of Americans right now because of the relentless lies and assaults upon her by Democrats and leftist media.
    So if Sarah Palin is “too damaged to win”, what do you think will happen to a non-Palin Republican nominee? They will probably be relentlessly attacked with lies and Alinski tactics until they are less popular than Palin. The leftists will be encouraged to attack everyone else if their attacks against Palin succeed.
    There is also a silver lining in these vicious leftist attacks on Palin – having been subjected to them, it will be human nature for Palin to not overexert herself “reaching across the aisle” for dubious compromises.

    Another argument against her is that she is “not conservative enough”. Upon a little reflection, this objection falls apart. Sarah Palin led the charge against Obamacare; she is rock-solid in her conservative opposition to this monstrosity. Sarah Palin is the most conservative opponent of Obamacare we can nominate.

    Pro-Life: Sarah Palin walks the walk and leads by example on this issue. She is the strongest pro-life candidate we can nominate. She is also very difficult to attack from a pro-choice perspective
    .
    Constitutional rights/2nd amendment. Sarah “I eat therefore I hunt” Palin is the most conservative candidate we can nominate on this issue.
    Foreign Policy: Sarah Palin admires Margaret Thatcher on foreign policy. We can expect a solid conservative, patriotic foreign policy from Palin.

    In addition to traditional Republican/conservative support, Sarah Palin should also get a lot of feminist support. Sarah Palin is a woman who has used good character and hard work to improve herself. She is a good role model. Susan B. Anthony would vote for her.

  • ruexperienced

    True. But that will not help her win an election.

    We are not electing the person most likely to win a public food fight.

  • ruexperienced

    Sarah Palin is very unpopular in Alaska now. Her 90 percent approval rating is now in the 30′s. Her endorsed Senate candidate was beaten by a write in candidacy of RINO Murkowski. I doubt Palin could win a statewide election in Alaska right now.

    Secondly, I am glad she holds conservative views. But those views are no different than those of a first year listener to the radio programs of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity.

  • edwyrd

    are all that is needed”…. ralph waldo emerson

  • gop2010

    I don’t have a lot of faith in the state’s judgment.

  • acat

    Read my prior post.

    Let me clue you in – I’m not anyone’s idea of “elite”, “insider”, part of the “establisment”…

    and I have my doubts about her.

    Please play again.

    Mew

  • acat

    Barbour sure looks like he’s in.
    Cain is either in or may as well be.
    Christie says he’s out but would like to be drafted.
    Daniels is acting like he wants to be a contender.
    Gingrich is acting like Daniels.
    Giuliani may be in.
    Huckabee is out, apparently… but I don’t trust him to stay out.
    Jindal seems to be staying out, probably a smart move.
    Pawlenty is exploring, and probably is in.
    Romney’s in. Bleg.
    Roemer (who I’d never heard of until he declared) is in.
    Thune is out. (and good riddance)
    Trump is either in or is trying to find a way to milk the system.

    Palin stacks up favorably to the majority, especially the retreads .. but there are several in the list who are better qualified, more experienced at national elections, and less polarizing….

    Mew

  • nivlem

    Sarah Palin has the ability to make political debates fit into a soundbite. We need this in the coming race.

    But can she win? I would love to believe she can, but I have serious doubts. Why? Because she has overextended her name recognition. It is hard to see her as our President after the tv exposure she has chosen….the reality show, Bristol on Dancing With The Stars, etc…..they diminish her credibility due to overexposure in a manner that doesn’t play to her strengths.

    But to have her in the race is worth evey dime. She is smart, couragous, loves our country, and is willing to fight for it. We need her in the fight. She will bring debates to this race that no one else will.

    And I hope she proves me wrong.

  • Tbone

    “She is smart, couragous, loves our country, and is willing to fight for it.”

  • Tbone

    has been through a national election.

    Palin has and showed the best of the 4.

  • Tbone

    a personality. Palin would kill both of them in a primary.

  • aesthete

    I highly doubt that I would make a good President or a good Presidential candidate.

  • Tbone

    on that stage in Denver, you would have soiled yourself.

    She rocked the Nation.

  • aesthete

    Too bad he’s Canadian; if he wasn’t, maybe we could see the spectacle of TBone going to the mattresses for Beiber 4 Prez.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908
  • Tbone

    your comparison is you’ll just run to Neil to protect you. ;-)

  • aesthete
  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    Since “insipid” and “Tbone” are synonyms I don’t think ae would need help from anyone.

  • harpsichord

    I post before I’ve read all of the comments?

    After I throw out the high and the low, all I got is the purr.

  • Tbone

    HMMM.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    known as “independents”. Those same people who think Palin – rightly or wrongly – is a silly fool and they will turn out for President Obama in droves if we are stupid enough to follow the whims of the incense burning worshippers that are cuing up behind Palin.

    So yes, it would be President Obama. Nominate Palin and it will be President Obama for another four years. Most likely with a Democratic Senate and House for at least two of them.

  • Goldwater_Conservative

    and tell me how has that ability to rock the house translated into being president? You can take your talkers and rock stars, give me a good smart comepentent candidate with a long list of conservative acomplishments.

  • Tbone
  • Tbone

    find a Republican that can beat her. So far the field looks like a bunch of pacers.

    I would suggest that any Republicans that would prefer someone else try to refrain from acting like the lunatic left in reference to her in that if she wishes, she will be the nominee.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    …then why do you feel the need to be a jerk in the comments to defend her?

    If she’s going to win the nomination and the Presidency, why not sit back and you know, be a human being?

  • Tbone

    :-)

  • aesthete

    You learn something new every day.

  • Tbone

    I wish there was a better choice. There just doesn’t seem to be. People love to shoot the messenger.

    BTW, do you and Neil have one of those Mutual Defense Pact thingys? Cripes, I hope you guys aren’t gonna sick your mommas on me.

  • acat

    … and if you’d like to be successful as a Sarah booster, you’re going to have to understand where those of us who don’t think she’s the top candidate are coming from.

    Mew

  • acat

    You know, the guy behind the Contract With America?
    The guy who pulled the GOP’s bacon out of the fire in 2010?

    Mew

  • acat
  • acat

    Poor Tbone, full of bullet holes.

    You may want to check which end of the firearm you’re on, eh?

    Palin could win the nomination but the election immediately becomes all about her… not about the Dem nominee. This is doubly true if the Dems don’t run Obama. (and you’d better believe there’s conversations about how to ease Barry out …)

    Mew

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    You’ve never made a case for her competency, nor has anyone else in this diary. “I just love her…” blah blah blah. You run the same retread commentary about what “she says” – and she IS good at throwing fresh meat to fools, but then again, so is Ron Paul.

    And I will admit again, she may well be able to win the primary if there’s a crowd. Unfortunately, there won’t be a crowd in November. We’ve reached a sad state when good Facebook pages and snappy one liners are more important than competency and a solid record of accomplishment.

  • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

    Palin is worlds better than Romney and Huckabee, in my opinion, and I admire her personally, but Pawlenty has a more solid record than she does, and he has none of her (pretty significant) negatives. I think that he can get out the base vote as well as she can and is more palatable to truly undecided independents (small group) and apathetic independents (large group).

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    Especially when it’s all you could muster. I have a great spell checker.

    “You can take your talkers and rock stars, give me a good smart comepentent candidate with a long list of conservative accomplishments.”

    Spelling is easy to fix. Two years of demonstrated incompetence as governor, a solid record as a fiscal liberal, and a complete inability to connect with about 60% of the people who are going to show up and vote in the general election in ’12, not so easy to fix.

  • Finrod

    I’m waiting for you to name someone so I can ridicule your choice the way that you’re drawn to every Palin thread on this site. It’ll be fun.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    as a candidate, nobody.

    However, when I do make a decision to support someone, I will point out their negatives along with their positives and make a thought out case for the person.

    That’s more than I can say about any of Sarah’s supporters who’ve posted here. The postings are a pathetic exercise in heroine worship, there’s not an ounce of research or thought amongst them. I find it interesting that you seem to think that pointing the facts about Palin’s political career, the facts about the ethics problems she had in AK with a law that she wrote and problems that she could have avoided with a simple call to her state AG asking for certification that her actions were consistent with her duties as Governor, and the facts related to how she is perceived by the majority of voters, you consider those facts to be “ridicule”. That speaks volumes about the candidate.

    Palin does have some supporters here at Redstate who actually work to make cogent arguments for her candidacy. None of them posted here, probably because they are repulsed by the heroine worshipers too.

    Much like Ron Paul, one of Palin’s biggest liabilities are the fools who “love” her.

  • Tbone

    I have said I wish there were someone else, but I just don’t see anyone beating her in the primaries. This is not shilling for her, this is just an observation of the political realities of the dynamics of the primaries. If I am wrong, so be it but you will agree that there are several names on the list that would be worse presidents.

    And yes, based upon Obama and Biden, we have reached a sad state but we have been here for a long time. Just consider the quality of Presidential candidates on both tickets over the last 30 years.

    Besides, I don’t have to shill for Palin here, you guys are all going to have to vote for her in the general anyway.

  • acat

    Disagree that there aren’t better candidates than Palin.

    Every other Governor in the race (except Christie, who isn’t running) has completed their elected terms. That’ll be an issue.

    Of the other Governors, Pawlenty and Romney are both from much bluer states. Romney’s a loser, but he’s a loser with a plan and a big war chest.

    Speaking of which – both Romney and Barbour know who to call for favors and organizing, Romney because he’s been there done that, and Barbour because he’s run both the Repub Governors Association – twice – and because he ran the GOP.

    The point at which Palin excels is as a lightning rod. This is an invaluable service – the longer the media is focussing on her, the less time they’ll have to smear the actual candidate.

    Mew

  • Tbone

    I’m saying that I don’t think they can beat her.

    Hey, put Rick Patino out on a basketball court and he is the smartest, most experienced guy there. He wouldn’t score any points though, would he? Knowing the game, having played the game doesn’t mean you can beat the competition.

  • acat
  • Tbone

    You’re just makin’ stuff up.

  • acat

    In this thread, Tbone, you’ve said the following:

    “If you feel that way, then you had better find a Republican that can beat her.”

    “I don’t shill for Palin, I wish there was a better choice. There just doesn

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I argued instead of trying to put an end to the argument.

    Break it up.

  • Tbone