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Egyptians demand restoration of Islam

I wanted to link together a few things I have found over the course of the weekend. I have seen many posts about the “Egyptian Revolution” but no critical analysis of it. Most Americans believe Obama when he downplays the role of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Please don’t be fooled for a second: Read on -

Egyptians demand restoration of Islam

Spokesman of Muslim Brotherhood said that the unprecedented presence of over 7 million Egyptian people in the Friday protests shook the palace of Hosni Mubarak.
Ahmad Mersi told al-Alam news network that the Egyptian revolutionary people demand a restoration of Islamic rules in the country andan ouster of Mubarak’s despotic rule.

So what part of this does President Obama not get?

Obama: Muslim Brotherhood Lacks Major Support in Egypt…

When O’Reilly asked Mr. Obama about the presence of the Muslim Brotherhood and whether the group is a threat, Mr. Obama said, “I think they’re one faction in Egypt. They don’t have majority support in Egypt. But they’re well organized. There are strains of their ideology that are anti-U.S. There’s no doubt about it.”

Mr. Obama went on to say that there are many secular people in Egypt, along with many educators and a civil society that wants a representative government.

The Brotherhood aims to create an Islamic state in Egypt, but insists that it would not force women to cover up in public in line with Islam’s teachings and would not rescind Egypt’s 1979 peace treaty with Israel.

If Obama really believes that – then not only is Egypt in trouble but America & Israel as well.

Dangerously underestimating the Muslim Brotherhood

The precedents are fresh and obvious. Yet the US government seems intent on ignoring them.

In Iran in 1979, leftist and other secular forces, central to the rising pressure that ousted the Shah, were duped and then outflanked by Islamist supporters of Ayatollah Khomeini, who took power and have cemented it for 32 years since. The Islamists achieved this despite having constituted only the most marginal of forces just a couple of years earlier.

(snip)

For all President Barack Obama’s declared intent to usher in a new partnership between the US and the Muslim world, what he termed “a new beginning” in his 2009 speech in Cairo, his diplomats did not deliver significant diplomatic pressure on Mubarak to reform his regime in the past two years. This was most starkly confirmed by December’s vigorously fraudulent parliamentary elections, which featured mass arrests of opposition supporters and the firm muzzling of critical media, and in which the Muslim Brotherhood’s 88-seat share of the previous 454-member parliament descended to zero because of the regime’s machinations.

Washington evidently failed to foresee that embittered Egyptians might then resort to the massed protests of the past two weeks, and it abandoned Mubarak with alacrity as it scrambled to avoid being caught on the wrong side of a largely spontaneous people’s push for freedom and democracy.

But however one gauges the realpolitik involved in that dramatic recoil from a 30-year ally, the White House’s subsequent reported moves to legitimate Egypt’s Islamists – whose outlook conflicts utterly with the democratic agenda – make no sense, and suggest a frighteningly superficial understanding of the Muslim Brotherhood’s intentions and potential achievements.

Muslim Brotherhood Hails Imam Khamenei’s Support of the Egyptian Revolution

A senior member of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood has expressed gratitude to the Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei for his support of the Egyptian revolution.
Kamal al-Halbavi made the remark in an interview with the state-funded BBC Persian on Sunday night.

Halbavi further expressed hope that Egypt would have “a good government, like the Iranian government, and a good president like Mr. Ahmadinejad, who is very brave.”

EGYPT: OMAR SULEIMAN ACCEPTS MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN POLITICAL NEGOTIATIONS

One can’t help recall the international acceptance of the Nazi party in Germany. Ya know, let’s all get along.

Anwar Sadat is spinning in his grave ……. the Muslim Brotherhood is tied to the assassination of former Egyptian President Anwar Sadat. It was an offshoot of the group that murdered Sadat:

The attackers included four enlisted men, an army major and a lieutenant. The major and two enlisted men were killed in the swarm around the reviewing stand, once other members of the military realized what was taking place. The rest were arrested. The attackers would eventually come to be identified as Islamist nationalists associated with the Muslim Brotherhood under the name of Islamic Jihad.

And of course there is their direct connection to al-qaeda, but why split hairs? Like Bob Beckel says, September 11th? Get over it.

Please read this last paragraph of this blog post.

The left wing lemmings are eating up this discourse among us like maggots on dead flesh, but that is their only joy, so let them have it.

A personal note from Salim Mansur sent to an editor at Ricochet:

Extremely distressed by the crew in Washington, and in most European capitals. Media is so corrupted by left-leaning thinking that there is not much of an analysis to be expected in the media that is now competing with facebook, twitters, etc. The dumbing down of thinking is itself a huge problem the West is facing now as it tries pathetically to undertstand/explain politics and history of other cultures when it no longer has faith in its own civilizational values. I despair, and so I follow Samuel Pepys who confined himself to his diaries while London burned and I am trying to devote my time to reading and writing of my own (that of course I might not be able to publish, and even if published few will read).

I am more convinced now, as I wasn’t when Paul Kennedy wrote about the rise and fall of great powers, that the West has gone over the tipping point in its terminal decline. That intelligent people, or people who claim to be intelligent, (I have in mind the talking heads in the U.S. media such as Chris Matthews or Fareed Zakaria) cannot make the difference between the sham of the Muslim Brotherhood talking about freedom and democracy and the generic thirst in man to be free. These are the people who have like the Bourbons learned nothing and forgotten nothing. They are glibly about to put the Lenins of our time into trains heading for Moscows of our time, they find nothing odd that they are pushing for the Muslim Brotherhood to be taken into governing when everything needs to be done to keep the Muslim Brotherhood out even as one carefully negotiate the long historic transition of Arab societies from tribal autorcracy and military dictatorships to representative rule and constitutionally limited government. I read you when I can, and I wish that you and others like you were closer to the main media control in the West, or in government.

Take care, and God bless.

Salim

COMMENTS

  • bobmontgomery

    …..and the companion piece to that is that there is hardly anyone in the US Senate who can speak intelligently anymore on foreign policy, on either side of the aisle. Oh, you get the occasional rah-rah, Israel is our friend, but you don’t get the ‘bi-partisan-foreign policy statements -there are no Moynihans, or Dirksens or Javits or any old school learned patriots, or apparently any willing to take the time to school themselves.

  • http://www.redstate.com/etcartman Kenny Solomon

    Then you’ll start to get close.

    ……and when somebody somewhere realizes that this Muslim Brotherhood ‘awakening’ is occurring simultaneously in many Muslim nations, how long will it take to put two and two together and get five – that this is coordinated at some level ?

  • Scope

    Until today, I had no idea that we were moving some of our military and equipment to Egypt. According to the linked article, multiple platoons of Special ops Marines have been deployed, and will aarrive in Egypt within a few days. The reason being given has been to be prepared to evacuate American citizens in case of an emergency. Hmmm. The Pentagon announced on Friday that it was moving US warships and other military assets to the region. The Connecticut National Guard detachment is being sent as well, supposedly “to protect the Egypt/Israel Peace Treaty.” The LA Times reported that the Kearsarge, an amphibious assault ship, equipped and manned for offensive military action is on the way. The aircraft carrier Enterprise has moved into the area. That sounds like an awful lot of people and assets going to Egypt to evacuate Americans in case of emergency. Do we send warships and amphibious assault ships to evacuate American citizens?

    My first thought is that we may be doing this to protect the waterways that move thousands and thousands of barrels of oil per day, and other supplies to Israel and the US, among other countries. I believe I read that the Muslim Brotherhood has the goal of choking off those waterways. It seems unlikely that the Hood can accomplish that on their own, and, I don’t even want to think of who would be coming to their aid such as Russia and/or Red China.

    Has anyone else heard any more about this?

    • Scope

      http://www.uncoverage.net/2011/02/special-ops-marines-are-being-deployed-to-egypt/

      • Uma Richie

        Sending a carrier group and an amphibious group to support an evacuation is fairly standard.

        If the fit hits the shan, the Americans will have to gather in designated areas, and get flown by helo to somewhere safe, which can actually be the carrier or the amphibious ship. Nice big ships can hold lots of people. Given what Egypt is about to turn into, I expect lots of people to suddenly want to claim whatever American connection they have, in the hope that it will get them evacuated too.

        And by the way, really cruddy timing removing Capt Honors from command of the Enterprise, wouldn’t you say?

        • Scope

          for something that happened five years before, that he was already disciplined for, and right at the heat of the DADT debate was disgusting.

        • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

          I thought the CO was just there to make Sailers and Marines on board feel happy. I must have totally joined the wrong branch of Sam’s Armed Forces…

          • lineholder

            required to succeed in those missions is something that a lot of us as civilians don’t comprehend that well.

            My brother has been Navy for 20 years. Anything that undermines respect of command….not acceptable.

          • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

            Iw as an officer myself. I appreciated the respect shown to me by the people in my class VII shop. There are few people more professional and concerned about the traditions of their organizations than the US Military (any branch thereof..).

          • Uma Richie

            that we hadn’t hashed this out yet here. Many more pressing issues to discuss, of course. My apologies for a BTW that turned into a threadjack.

    • http://www.redstate.com/etcartman Kenny Solomon

      “The primary goal is to provide the President with a mechanism to communicate with the American public during times of national emergency,” said Fowlkes. The change, she said, is that prior to last week’s order there was no rule in place to call for or allow a test from top to bottom.

      www.federalnewsradio.com/index.php?nid=15&sid=2262066

      Fowlkes said, “There’s never been a test from top to bottom where it’s issued by FEMA and it goes straight down to all the different levels of EAS to the American public. So this is a way for us to glean, okay, if there were an actual emergency and the federal government needed to activate the Presidential EAS, making sure that it actually works the way it’s designed to.”

      Will the first ?Presidential Emergency Alert? be for typical bitter God-clingers to get on the buses headed to the FEMA Camps, or for Jews to get in the cattle cars ?

      • Scope

        going through this exercise is nothing more than one giant fire drill?

        • http://www.redstate.com/etcartman Kenny Solomon

          ……and the r.o.e. for our lads will be to hold fire – period – do not return fire under any circumstances, nor otherwise allow the Muslims to become agitated or move to the next officially designated stage, ‘a tad miffed’.

          Then again, the spec ops guys headed over may be under orders to keep all ‘hardware’ unloaded.

          I’d better stop or I’ll get ‘edgy’ again.

          • bobmontgomery

            ..for me. If the President dials down to the citizen and tells him the Belgians are coming, the citizen is supposed to do what? Turn in his weapons?
            If there is a chemical attack from Al Quaida, the President contacting us personally is supposed to….inspire us? Or, if there is another Katrina heading our way, the President is to clog the airwaves so National Weather Service broadcasts will be delayed, or relegated to the scrapheap of history?
            Exactly what type of emergency would require immediate and exclusive Presidential transmission directly to the people, except the case where we have already been successfully invaded and he is broadcasting from a remote location, pleading with us to raid the armories and take back the country in the name of ‘redistributive justice’?

      • blooch

        for the TOTUS Football. Does this mean he’s going to pop up occasionally on TV between the usual emergency honking noises?

      • gekster
  • izoneguy

    U.S. has been quiet about Cairo’s weapons programs, but revolt changes the calculus

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41452744/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

    With Egypt in revolt and the country?s future uncertain, concern is growing over whether a new government in the Arab world?s most militarily and industrially advanced country could accelerate an arms race in one of the world?s most volatile regions.

    ????

    I thought Obama said the Muslim Brotherhood was just a “faction” in Egypt?
    What are they worried about? /sarc

    • lineholder

      That is what makes me wonder if the impetus for the Egyptian military to take action came from outside the country…from other regions, such as Yemen and Jordan, who are seeing some of the kind of protests.

    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack
    • Scope

      I’ve read two different articles that claimed at least two dozen of Egypt’s top military brass were in Washington at the Pentagon when the riots broke out. I wondered if the Obama admin. purposely had them thousands of miles away from home when the action started. From what I’ve been reading, Mubarak and the new VP Suliman (sp) are military people themselves, and had the support of the Egyptian military. I’m wondering if the deployment of US military to Egypt is to actually remove Mubarak, as Obama and Clinton told him to get the hell out yesterday. Mubarak said no. Or, I’m wondering if Obama is willing to fight it out with the Egyptian military. Hence the major deployment of US military assets to Egypt.

      • izoneguy

        If you have some time see if you can find anything out along that line of reasoning. It is very interesting.

  • izoneguy

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/02/028282.php

    If Egyptians are bound and determined to be ruled by Islamists, they cannot be held back forever. They might not ever get it out of their system until they see what it’s actually like. They won’t be dissuaded by dialogue, and they won’t be dissuaded by prison. Islamism is like communism for some people. It looks good from a distance on paper, but up close and in person it’s ghastly.

    The citizens of Iran have learned the hardest way imaginable that Islamism is hell. When they overthrow their regime–and they will–the country will be more secular than it has ever been and the threat there will have passed. Egypt, I’m sorry to say, may require two revolutions before it matures–the first against secular military rule and the second against the Muslim Brotherhood. I hope it’s not true, but if it is true there’s not much Americans can do to stop it.

    • Scope

      on with Greta whathername saying that the American governments, both Republican and Democrat, have told President Mubarak for 30 years that he needed to do more with economics in his country, and to respect the people. Just a day or so ago, Dick Cheney said that Mubarak has been a friend and ally to the US. Where in the freak does she get off trying to tell other countries what they have to do? I’m sick to my stomach. I’m beginning to believe that the military deployment is to remove him from Egypt, forcefully if necessary. Then she can get her good buddy El Baradei installed as the face of the MB, who she has no problem with. I’ll do research tomorrow on the situation. Have a good evening.

      • http://www.redstate.com/etcartman Kenny Solomon

        Click here:

        http://www.redstate.com/etcartman/2011/02/07/israel-survival-updates-7-february-2011/#comment-3006