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(Update) Eighteen (18) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry

*Posted by permission of garnet92 “Pesky Truth”.

Eighteen (18) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry

Over the past couple of months Rick Perry has been considering a run for POTUS.
As of Thursday, August 11, it looks like the decision has been made and he’s in.

*(Update – Rick Perry announced for President at the Redstate.com gathering on 8/13/2011)

Since he’s been Governor of Texas for over ten years, folks from the other “56 states” are
asking Texans what kind of governor he’s been and what we think. I decided that what I “think” isn’t good enough – I could be wrong. So, I decided to do some research on Perry’s record and form a more accurate, fact-based opinion on his qualifications instead of relying on my general perceptions.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I voted for Perry in each of the three gubernatorial elections since 2002 and I am a conservative and a registered Republican. It was easy for me to vote for Perry since the alternative(s) were either uber-RINOs in the primaries or liberal Democrats in the general elections. Under the circumstances, my choice was always easy.

While researching Perry’s pros and cons, I’ve read every article and blog post that I could find – over several weeks. Many of those posts had 2-300 comments associated with them – I read them all.

After reading literally thousands of comments, it’s become apparent that there are quite a lot of anti-Perry activists out there throwing all sorts of disparaging rhetorical crap against the wall in hopes that some will stick and they can influence someone, anyone, to become anti-Perry too. The unfortunate thing is that most of their negative statements are either completely false, at worst, or misleading, at best. They’re simply parroting something they saw on another hater’s blog. Yet they maintain that they are the knowledgeable ones and those supporting Perry are ignorant clods who can’t walk and chew gum at the same time – “ignorant” is an adjective that they like to use a lot.

It’s ludicrous to think that some asinine statement like “Gardasil, Perry blew it – ‘nuff said,” deserves any consideration. No, it’s not “’nuff said,” there is usually more to know about an issue before a reasonable person can make an intelligent decision. For that reason, I have attempted to present some additional facts that have not been widely publicized just to educate those who have not been privy to Texas politics until now.

In that spirit, I do realize that anyone who reads this summary has a right to be skeptical of my facts. I therefore invite those who might dispute my findings to challenge them by verifying what I’ve presented here. And cross-check via reliable sources rather than relying on a single posting by some anonymous blogger – some spout “facts” which have no basis in the truth. I will identify the source of my data and in many cases, I’ll provide a link to the source so you can see for yourself … the real facts.

And finally, remember that any politician in office for ten years will have his/her critics and will have stepped on some toes during their term(s).

Following are subjects that are claimed by detractors to be Rick Perry’s failings – they are in no particular order.

1. Gardasil

Gardasil is a drug developed by Merck & Co.. It is supposed to prevent cervical cancer caused by the Human Papilloma Virus (HPV). The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved it in June of 2006 and subsequently recommended vaccination in females aged 11 and 12, before they become sexual active. Since it is not effective against an existing infection, it must be given before a sexually-transmitted HPV infection occurs.

Governor Perry issued an Executive Order (EO) (RP#65, February, 2007) which mandated that all Texas girls be vaccinated prior to their admission to the sixth grade. Parents were allowed to opt out of the mandate by filling out an affidavit.

Perry was rebuked by both houses of the Texas legislature which overturned his EO by a veto-proof margin. Seeing the writing on the wall, Perry did not sign the law. He subsequently rescinded RP#65 with another EO (RP#74) and the issue is now dead in Texas. At least 18 other states (notably New York and Michigan) were considering similar actions with Gardasil, but none were actually implemented. Here is a link to additional data on other state’s decisions, from a 2007 article in Time Magazine Health.

Perry’s negatives related to the Gardasil issue were:

  • Issuing the EO requiring vaccinations for young girls. Even though a parent could opt-out (for religious or philosophical reasons), refusing the child’s shot, people were upset that the EO required inoculation. Had the vaccination been voluntary, there would have been no question.
  • Perry’s former chief of staff (2002-2004) was a lobbyist for Merck at the time and is thought to have had undue influence on Perry on behalf of Merck’s drug.
  • Merck contributed a grand total of $6,000 to Perry’s reelection campaign. While it is unseemly in its timing, $6,000 is barely enough money to get noticed, much less to buy the support of a governor, least of all a “high roller” like Perry’s critics claim he is. That Merck contribution amounted to .00025 of the $24 million dollar campaign funds that he received that year.

There are still some who are convinced that Merck contributed more than a paltry $6,000 to Perry. They are simply wrong. Merck gave two checks, one for $1,000 and another for $5,000 to Perry in the 2006 election timeframe (in 2008, they contributed a whopping $2,500). Here is a source to view all of Perry’s contributions: ProPublica. In fact, Merck has only contributed $23,500 to Perry over a 1998-2010 span, not exactly George Soros money. For comparison, from 2000-2006 Merck gave $2,460,000 to state politicians across 40 states.

The other side of the story:

Gardasil was believed to be a way to stop certain types of cancer among young women. Studies appearing in The New England Journal of Medicine in 2007 found that Gardasil was nearly 100 percent effective in preventing precancerous cervical lesions caused by the the strains that Gardasil protects against. Gardasil’s effectiveness increased when given to girls and young women before they become sexually active. Gardasil was found to be extremely effective in preventing several (but not all) of the strains of HPV known to cause cervical cancer and genital warts.

Some critics maintain that Gardasil has a record of “very serious safety issues.” That obvious attempt to further tarnish Perry’s image by intimating that not only did he do the bidding of Merck in ordering the vaccinations, he did so without considering the possible serious side effects. There is little doubt that Governor Perry knew a great deal more about Gardasil at the time than those critics do now. The CDC has been following Gardasil since its licensing and some current facts follow. Taken from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website:

“Since licensure, CDC and FDA have been closely monitoring the safety of HPV vaccines. “As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil® have been distributed in the U.S. and the safety monitoring system (VAERS) received a total of 18,727 reports of adverse events following Gardasil® vaccination. As with all VAERS reports, serious events may or may not have been caused by the vaccine.”

“Of the total number of VAERS reports following Gardasil®, 92% were considered to be non-serious, and 8% were considered serious. Out of 35,000,000 doses distributed, there were 1,498 occasions of serious complications; that equates to a .0000428 chance that a dose will cause a serious adverse reaction.” Hardly enough to consider the vaccine “a very serious safety issue” as claimed by some critics. Apparently, they are too lazy to “do a little research.”

As of June, 2011, the CDC says: “Based on all of the information we have today, CDC recommends HPV vaccination for the prevention of most types of cervical cancer. As with all approved vaccines, CDC and FDA will continue to closely monitor the safety of HPV vaccines.” Check out the CDC’s statements about Gardasil for yourself. And specifically check out the Summary at the end for the CDC’s conclusion about Gardasil’s effectiveness.

In Gardasil, Merck believed that they had a credible, FDA-approved, CDC recommended, fact-backed case for vaccinating young women and lobbied state officials to do so. Were they trying to make money on the drug? Without a doubt, that’s what a business does.

Perry maintains that the justification for his executive order making the shot mandatory was twofold: 1) that the vaccine offered a chance to save lives that might have otherwise been taken away by cervical cancer and, 2) that insurance companies wouldn’t cover the $360 cost of the vaccine ($120 for each of a 3-shot regimen) when it was simply an optional “recommended” vaccine. That put it out of the reach for most low-income Texans. This from the Time Magazine article (linked above), “Some pediatricians and gynecologists are refusing to stock Gardasil because many insurance companies reimburse so little for the vaccine, which costs $360 for the three required doses.”

When Perry mandated Gardasil, it would have become part of a school-related vaccine package which was then covered by insurance for simply the cost of a co-pay.

Agree or disagree, that does seem to be a reasonable justification for Perry’s actions.

2. Trans-Texas Corridor

The “Trans-Texas Corridor” (TTC) term identifies a plan, introduced by Governor Perry in 2001, that some saw as the beginning of a “North American Union” highway system. It was to extend from the Texas border with Mexico to the border with Oklahoma and would be a 4,000 mile system with routes crisscrossing Texas. The $175+ billion dollar project would have been the largest engineering project ever proposed for the state of Texas.

When details of the plan became public, critics became concerned that it would lead to a “NAFTA Superhighway” that would facilitate the United States, Canada and Mexico merging into a North American Union (a fringe conspiracy theory).

As envisioned, the TTC consisted of multi-use right-of-ways that would be up to 1,200 feet wide to accommodate six 80 mph vehicle lanes, 4 truck lanes, two tracks each for high-speed rail, commuter rail, and freight rail, a 200 ft. wide utility zone to accommodate underground water, natural gas, and petroleum pipelines, telecommunications cables and high-voltage electric transmission lines. A full-sized right of way would have required 146 sq. acres per mile.

While the concept of multi-use right-of-ways can be considered forward-thinking and progressive (in the proper use of the word), many were concerned that the proposed methods of land acquisition and financing could take advantage of landowners and the taxpaying public to the benefit of private entities.

In March of 2005, a Comprehensive Development Agreement (CDA) was signed with Cintra/Zachry, a partnership between Cintra (Cintra Concesiones deInfraestructuras de Transporte,S.A.), an international developer of transport infrastructure, and Zachry Construction Corp., one of the country’s largest construction companies. There were several other participants in the CDA, but these are the two most prominent.

Headquartered in Madrid, Spain, with subsidiaries on three continents, Cintra is one of the world’s largest private-sector developers of transport infrastructure. Zachry is a privately held company founded in 1924 and headquartered in San Antonio,Texas. The concerns that critics raised over the TTC were:

  • Cintra, a Spanish firm, was the largest financer. They would build, design and operate the highway (that included collecting toll revenue). While the Spanish firm would not own the system, they would benefit financially off of Texas’ infrastructure. All roads in Texas are owned by Texas and managed under Texas’ Department of Transportation’s (TxDOT) authority.
  • Since most of the Trans-Texas Corridor roads would be toll roads, toll earnings would be used to pay investors (Cintra) and to maintain the roads. If any public money was used to pay for part of the TTC, it would constitute double taxation. Motorists would have contributed gasoline tax revenues towards building and maintaining Texas highways and still have to pay for tolls on the TTC.
  • It was estimated that 580,000 acres (906 square miles) would have been taken from private owners (mostly ranch and farm land) and either purchased by, or seized (via eminent domain) by the state for the Trans-Texas Corridor.
  • The possible misuse of eminent domain – confiscating private land for “public” use – was a major concern.

Perry’s defense was that as Texas continues to grow by about 1,200 people every day, the state’s infrastructure must be improved to accommodate the growth. The TTC was an attempt to create a state-of-the-art, coordinated system of thousands of miles of roadways, rail lines, and gas transportation systems without raising taxes by using a financing method called a “Public Private Partnership” (P3s). It is important to note that P3s are a procurement option, not a revenue source. Some current examples are: the Chicago Skyway, the South Bay Expressway in California, and the Capital Beltway high-occupancy toll lanes in DC. Here is more on P3s from the Federal Highway Administration.

The TTC is now a dead issue in Texas. It cannot be resurrected under any other name. In fact, the governor recently signed HB 1201, which removed all remaining references to the TTC from state statutes. Perry has not attempted to resurrect it or do an “end run” around the legislature and the people. Here is a local (Houston) story that sums up the public outcry over the TTC.

By law, toll roads in Texas can never be owned by anyone other than the state and are not being “leased away.” The public never relinquished ownership of any state roads.

The governor signed a law in 2005 that prevents a free road from being “converted” to a toll road. This is current law under the Transportation Code, Chapter 228.201 and he signed SB 18 on May 19, 2011, a bill which strengthened property owner’s rights when eminent domain is exercised by a government entity. Eminent domain “land grabs” were one of the big concerns that Texans had relating to the TTA.

Unlike the current administration in Washington, Rick Perry heard the people and backed off.


3. He used to be a Democrat and

was Al Gore’s campaign manager in Texas

Both statements are true. Perry was raised in a Democrat family where his father was a long-serving Democrat county commissioner. It was natural for him to start his political career as a Democrat. He won his first election in 1984 when he was elected to the Texas house and soon became a rising star in Texas democrat politics. An opportunity to advance himself presented itself and he became Gore’s Texas campaign manager in 1988.

Those too young to remember wouldn’t recognize the Al Gore of 1988. He opposed the federal funding of abortion, supported a moment of silence in schools for prayer, approved funding of the Nicaraguan contras and was against the ban on interstate handgun sales. Gore’s platform was one that a conservative West Texas Democrat like state representative Perry could support when he signed up to chair the Senator’s Texas campaign.

From the election on, the Gore/Perry partnership began to crumble and the way that their paths diverged in the past three decades speaks eloquently to the way American politics has been reshaped. Gore has sailed left, while Perry’s political odyssey has seen him tack in the other direction — and to the opposing party.

Perry says that the Gore experience helped him to “come to his senses,” and he switched to the Republican party in 1989, fully 22 years ago. Perry switched parties over two decades ago and critics somehow think that bringing it up now is newsworthy? Sorry guys, as we say in Texas, that dog won’t hunt.

If you’re interested in more details, here is a Texas Tribune article titled “Rick Perry: The Democrat Years.”

If critics insist that it’s fair to criticize Perry now for his actions of 22 years ago, it is also fair to apply that same scrutiny and criticism to cover positions espoused by every other politician covering the past 22 years – President Obama included. Is it time to revisit Obama’s anti-American associations, his time in Rev. Wright’s church, his “present” votes, etc.? Let the scrutiny and criticism begin …

 

4. He wants Texas to secede from the union

Some say that Perry wants Texas to secede from the Union and he is a traitor for saying so. The governor never said that he wanted Texas to secede. Scholars know that Texas secession is an urban myth and certainly, the governor knows it as well.

What actually happened was that after people shouted “Secede!” at an Austin rally, he said that he understood their frustration but added, “We’ve got a great union. There is absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, who knows what may come of that. Texas is a very unique place, and we’re a pretty independent lot to boot.”

Perry emphasized that he was not advocating secession, but understands why Americans may have those feelings because of frustration. He said it’s fine to express the thought. He offered no apology and did not back away from his earlier comments. Perry’s remarks were in response to a question from The Associated Press as he walked away from the rally. The governor said he didn’t think Texas should secede despite some chatter about it on the Internet and his name being associated with the idea.

While some Texans still harbor fantasies about secession, it is not a serious issue. It’s an urban myth that Texas still has that right – most scholars don’t believe that. When Texas entered the union in 1845, it was with the understanding that it could pull out. However, according to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission, in the end, Texas negotiated the power to divide into four additional states at some point (not five) if it wanted to, but did not retain the right to secede. here is a link to the 1866 ordinance declaring secession and here are the operative words: “and the right heretofore claimed by the State of Texas to secede from the Union, is hereby distinctly renounced.” Passed 15th March, 1866.

Additionally, the U.S. Supreme Court case Texas v White (1869) established the principle that there is an existing prohibition against any state seceding from the Union without the consent of the other States.

 

5. The jobs created in Texas have all been low paying jobs. Texas’ average wage is much lower than the national average.

That statement would imply that Texans are working for minimum wage and must be living at poverty levels compared to other states.

Here’s a thought … isn’t a low paying job in Texas better than being jobless in another state?

Having a job is only one part of the Texas equation – the other significant part is Texas’ low cost of living. The Cost of Living (COL) index takes into account prices on a variety of basic goods and services, including groceries, housing, utilities, healthcare, and transportation, as well as common expenses like movie tickets and newspapers. These disparate costs of living can mean that a salary in one city has a far different value than the same amount of money in another city.

While it is true that Texas median household income ($48,259) is less than some states like California, New York, and Connecticut, the state does fare well when the income is adjusted by the Cost of Living (COL). When the COL is factored in, Texas’ median household income ($53,009) exceeds California by $8,550, exceeds New York’s by $10,403, and Connecticut’s by $1,532. These are 2009 figures from the U.S. Census Bureau reported in a U.S. News article.

Note that those figures are based on median income (a midpoint, as many above as below). Please explain: if Texas has been creating only minimum wage jobs, how is the Texas median income still $48,259? A minimum wage job in Texas would only earn $15,080/yr?

Here is a direct comparison illustrating how much the cost of living affects one’s standard of living. Let’s look at two cities, Los Angeles and Dallas. When Dallas is compared to L.A., here is the result: “The cost of living in Dallas is lower than the cost of living in Los Angeles. If you make $100,000.00 in Los Angeles and move to Dallas, you will only need to make $62,862.55 ($37,137.45 less) to maintain the same buying power.” The comparison is from Inflation Data.com where you can compare two selected cities against one another.

And here’s another objective, authoritative comparison:

Texas is ranked third among “Best States to make a living.” The ranking is based on an Adjusted Average Income value which considers taxes, housing, and cost of living. Texas’ average is $41,427. Compared to Massachusetts: $38,665, Minnesota: $37,721, and California: $29,772 just to compare a few. This from CBS MoneyWatch, April, 2011.

And finally, Texas places two metro areas, Houston ($60,634) and Dallas ($59,217) among the top ten metro areas in the nation with the highest real income. Real income is the median household income adjusted by the COL. Compare those figures with a couple of other large metro areas from the bottom ten: New York ($35,370) and Los Angeles ($41,331). The figures are from a June, 2011 analysis by the U.S. News using latest available (2009) data.

And what about wages? Texas has seen wages climb faster than the country overall. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average wage for employees in Texas rose 7.4% between May 2008 and May 2010 (the latest data available). For the nation as a whole, average wages climbed only 5%. This from Investors.com.

So, contrary to the poverty implied by the original criticism, the standard of living in Texas isn’t as bad as the “low paying” statement (if true) would indicate – the accusation is just an another attempt to diminish the job creation achievement, Texas’ standard of living, and by association, Governor Perry.

 

6. Texas ranks poorly in educational spending and high school graduations

That statement is true. Texas does rank near the bottom of generalized rankings in spending per student and high school graduations, but as usual, those rankings alone are misleading. The statement is intended to imply that the state does a poor job of educating its students and therefore its Governor, Rick Perry is to blame. It’s just another two-for-one Texas/Perry smear.

With Perry as governor, how does education in Texas really compare with other states?

To see how Texas stacks up, we’ll compare Texas to Wisconsin. We chose Wisconsin because earlier this year, during their sit-ins and demonstrations, Wisconsin teachers compared their state’s (supposed) #2 ranking in ACT/SAT test scores directly to Texas (at #47). Their reason for comparing to Texas was that Wisconsin teachers are unionized while teacher unions are illegal in Texas. This direct comparison was intended to show the benefit of unionized teachers in educating our children.

However, those rankings were found to be: 1) obsolete, using 12-year-old data, and 2) used questionable methodology. The ranking was debunked by PolitiFact and the claim has since been removed from the union’s website, in other words, they stretched the facts to fit their agenda.

One facet that makes a Texas comparison to many other states is the racial makeup of the student population. Minority students – regardless of state – tend to score lower than white students on standardized tests, and the higher the proportion of minority students in a state the lower its overall test scores tend to be. Regardless of the reasons, the gap does exist, and it’s mathematical sophistry to compare the combined average test scores in a state like Wisconsin (4% black, 4% Hispanic) to a state like Texas (12% black, 30% Hispanic).

But let’s ignore that mismatch and compare them anyway – broken down by racial groups. We’ll compare some 2009 standardized test scores (the latest available) for 4th and 8th grade students in the areas of math, reading, and science. A pilot program for 12th graders is being tested, but national comparisons are not yet possible for that grade. The data supporting the following rankings are found at the Nation’s Report Card website (link below the rankings).

2009 4th Grade Math

White students: Texas 254, Wisconsin 250 (national average 248)
Black students: Texas 231, Wisconsin 217 (national 222)
Hispanic students: Texas 233, Wisconsin 228 (national 227)

2009 8th Grade Math

White students: Texas 301, Wisconsin 294 (national 294)
Black students: Texas 272, Wisconsin 254 (national 260)
Hispanic students: Texas 277, Wisconsin 268 (national 260)

2009 4th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 232, Wisconsin 227 (national 229)
Black students: Texas 213, Wisconsin 192 (national 204)
Hispanic students: Texas 210, Wisconsin 202 (national 204)

2009 8th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 273, Wisconsin 271 (national 271)
Black students: Texas 249, Wisconsin 238 (national 245)
Hispanic students: Texas 251, Wisconsin 250 (national 248)

2009 4th Grade Science

White students: Texas 168, Wisconsin 164 (national 162)
Black students: Texas 139, Wisconsin 121 (national 127)
Hispanic students: Wisconsin 138, Texas 136 (national 130)

2009 8th Grade Science

White students: Texas 167, Wisconsin 165 (national 161)
Black students: Texas 133, Wisconsin 120 (national 125)
Hispanic students: Texas 141, Wisconsin 134 (national 131)

To recap: white students in Texas perform better than white students in Wisconsin, black students in Texas perform better than black students in Wisconsin, and Hispanic students in Texas perform better than Hispanic students in Wisconsin. In 18 separate ethnicity-controlled comparisons, the only one where Wisconsin students performed better than their peers in Texas was 4th grade science for Hispanic students (statistically insignificant), and this was reversed by 8th grade.

Further, Texas students exceeded the national average for their ethnic cohorts in all 18 comparisons; Wisconsinites were below the national average in 8, above average in 8. That bears repeating: Texas fourth and eighth graders outperformed the national average scores in all categories.

Perhaps the most striking thing in these numbers is the within-state gap between white and minority students. Not only did white Texas students outperform white Wisconsin students, the gap between white students and minority students in Texas was much less than the gap between white and minority students in Wisconsin.

In other words, students perform better in Texas schools than in Wisconsin schools – especially minority students.

The above statistics and narrative was taken from Iowahawk’s great blog site (but they have been verified against the Nation’s Report Card site which was their original source). Read Iowahawk’s complete analysis HERE.

And here is a link to the Nation’s Report Card site – the original source of the data so you can compare and contrast any other state(s) you’d like to see.

About the website:” The Nation’s Report CardTM informs the public about the academic achievement of elementary and secondary students in the United States. It communicates the findings of the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), a continuing and representative measure of achievement in various subjects over time.

NAEP is a congressionally authorized project of the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) within the Institute of Education Sciences of the U.S. Department of Education.”

And lastly, this little publicized fact, Texas owns the top two spots (#’s 1 and 2) in the America’s Best High Schools list (Newsweek, June 2011) and has 19 of the top 100 best high schools in the country. How can it be that Texas, with about 8 percent of the country’s population, places 19 schools in the top 100 high schools in the country (that’s 19 %)? Here’s a link to the Newsweek article [be aware that the site has some display formatting problems, you'll have to scroll down to see the schools, but the data is all there, it's just in need of some TLC].

Is Texas leading the nation is education spending or achievements? No, the state must do better. Unfortunately, school budgets are being cut as we speak and that doesn’t bode well for the future of our children. That must change.

But Texas isn’t really the educational cesspool that the original accusation would imply – in fact, Texas is doing fairly well when actual achievements are compared to national averages. Is Rick Perry responsible? In some small measure, he is. Just as it would be wrong to credit Perry with all of Texas’s achievements, it would be just as wrong to assume that all of Texas’ problems are his fault. As governor, he certainly did contribute to both good and bad aspects of Texas life.

 

7. Perry turned down $555 million

in federal stimulus,  yet later asked for

federal disaster aid for Texas wildfires

 

That’s true. The reason that Perry gave for refusing that particular “stimulus” was that it was a one-time, temporary influx of money to assist in covering extended unemployment benefits, but had strings attached (the most serious was that the funding would only last about two years). After that, the state would have to find a way to continue the higher payments covered by the federal funding. In other words, it was a one-time, kick-the-can-down-the-road temporary funding that didn’t permanently fix anything and would leave Texas liable for replacing the $555 million when the federal money ran out. Instead Perry got a federal loan to cover the state’s unemployment fund shortfall. While a loan still must be repaid, it didn’t come with the extra burden of federal mandates that accompanied the $555 million stimulus funding. Thus, he avoided the federal meddling that was part of the original stimulus while still shoring up the state’s unemployment fund.

It is true that Governor Perry did accept part of the $787 billion Recovery Act money and used those funds to cover the state’s budget shortfall. Perry has never said that he would never accept federal funds, he has just been careful to decline when the funds came with unacceptable federal intrusion in state affairs attached.

Relative to the wildfires: Over 2.2 million acres of Texas land in 252 counties were lost to wildfires in 2011 due to severe dry conditions caused by drought. Across the state, hundreds of homes and countless livestock have been lost. As a result, Texas Governor Rick Perry requested a Major Disaster Declaration (MDD) and federal emergency funds to assist in fighting the ongoing fires. President Obama refused to issue a Major Disaster Declaration, originally requested on April 16, and instead provided lesser federal assistance for fires fought only between April 6 and May 3, 2011, covering just a fraction of the fires fought in Texas so far this season. A Major Disaster Declaration would have made the state eligible for much more response and recovery assistance from the federal government. Major Disaster aid is an entirely different type of federal aid and is specifically designed to assist states when natural disasters occur. Many in Texas believe that the MDD was withheld for political reasons.

It is hardly hypocritical to refuse federal funding with unacceptable strings attached while requesting federal disaster aid when a natural disaster occurs. It is the federal government’s responsibility to provide disaster relief, one of the few things they have an obligation to the states to fulfill.

 

8. Perry says he has not raised taxes, but he has

When Perry states that “we don’t raise taxes.” That’s such a broad generalization that it can’t possibly be 100% factual. And it is not. Perry has raised about half a dozen taxes during his tenure, including three 2006 changes that helped cover reductions in school property taxes, being essentially revenue neutral. He also signed into law tax increases on cigarettes and smokeless tobacco, fireworks, and diesel equipment. He also implemented a change to the business franchise tax law that increased the franchise tax that businesses pay to operate in Texas – that was an actual business tax increase.

Another tax that has gone up on his watch is the unemployment tax that is paid by Texas businesses. While the tax rate fell steadily from 2004 through 2008, the rate rose in 2009 and 2010 largely due to the national economic downturn. However, the state unemployment rate is set automatically based on the balances in the state’s unemployment fund and is independent of any gubernatorial action, thus Perry is not liable for that one.

Perry has managed to keep taxes low during his 10-year tenure as governor. Countless opportunities to raise taxes presented themselves during Perry’s ten years as governor, yet he resisted the temptation. Texas was ranked 49th among the states in per-capita taxes, at $1,434 a year in 2005, according to a 2009 Census Bureau report and a Texas Public Policy Foundation analysis (Feb., 2011) shows Texas with a 7.9% combined state/local tax burden, ranking it 45th among the states – for comparison, New York’s burden is 12.1%.

After 10 years in office, with ample opportunities to raise taxes, Perry has maintained an enviable record as a low-tax governor.

Currently, Texas imposes no tax on personal income or capital gains. Perry remains opposed to a Texas state income tax and recently vetoed a proposed Internet state sales tax. Perry supports a balanced U.S. budget and a balanced budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

In his first veto of the year, governor Perry vetoed the Internet sales tax bill (HB 2403). That’s just one more reason for Texas’ low cost of living. At least for now, Texans can continue to buy goods over the Internet without paying sales tax on all purchases. Many other states have already enacted new laws to require all Internet sellers to collect a state’s sales tax (regardless of nexus) and others are feverishly getting on the bandwagon – drawn like a moth to a flame – to grab and spend this new source of previously out-of-reach revenue.

 

9. Perry has presided over the highest number

of executions in the nation

Be aware that I used the term “presided over” because that’s the way that several critical comments characterized Perry’s position. Nothing could be further from the truth. Perry did not “preside” over the trials, nor the jury’s decisions, nor did he act as judge. He did not preside over the multitude of appeals that are common in capital cases and he was not part of court decisions that denied a new trial. He was simply in office when these events occurred. He could issue a one-time thirty-day reprieve otherwise, short of a recommendation from the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles, his only option was to grant the reprieve or allow the execution to proceed. That’s it.

231 executions have taken place while Perry was governor. He commuted the death sentence for 31 inmates – mostly those where the defendant was a juvenile at the time of the crime. In Texas, clemency can only be granted by the governor if it is first recommended by the Texas Board of Pardons and Parole – he cannot grant clemency without a prior recommendation by the board.

Governor Perry followed Texas law. He has done exactly what a Texas governor is supposed to do. Barring a recommendation from the Board of Pardons and Parole, he cannot unilaterally grant anything other than a single 30-day reprieve, at the end of which (barring a court order) the execution proceeds.

It’s one thing to be against the death penalty on moral grounds, in that case, work to change the laws. But in a nation built on laws, we are bound to abide by the law – even those we may find objectionable. When an individual has been tried in court, found guilty and exhausted all of the appeals available to them, there comes a time when the sentence must be carried out – that’s the law.

 

10. Perry refused to consider commuting the execution of Mexican national Humberto Leal Garcia even though it had been requested by the U.N. and the White House

Humberto Leal Garcia was sentenced to death for the 1994 rape and murder of a 16-year-old girl. Leal, a mechanic, was born in Monterrey, Nuevo León, Mexico, in 1973 and moved to the USA when he was two years old, but never became a United States citizen. He was an illegal immigrant.

On May 21, 1994, Leal kidnapped, raped, tortured, and murdered 16-year-old Adria Sauceda. Police discovered the girl’s nude body on a dirt road in San Antonio in May 1994. Evidence showed she had been gang-raped, bitten, strangled and bludgeoned to death.

She and Leal had been attending a party not far from where she was found. She became intoxicated at the party and Leal is said to have offered to drive her home. Leal carried an intoxicated semi-conscious Sauceda into his car. When Leal placed Sauceda in his car she was clothed. When Sauceda’s body was later discovered she was nude.

Leal was the last known individual to see Sauceda alive.

Official court documents state “There was a 30- to 40-pound asphalt rock roughly twice the size of the victim’s skull lying partially on the victim’s left arm; Blood was underneath this rock. A smaller rock with blood on it was located near the victim’s right thigh.” There was also a 15 inch long stick extending out of her vagina, with a screw at the end. Leal claimed that she fell and hit her head. No one was charged in the gang rape.

Among other evidence, the bite mark was matched to Leal. Her bloody blouse was found at Leal’s home, and Leal confessed to police and his brother that he had killed Sauceda.

The complaint is that even though the 38-year-old Mexican national had lived in the United States since he was 2 years old, he was not granted access to the Mexican consul prior to making incriminating statements (his confession).

In a letter to Texas Governor Rick Perry, the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights asked that he commute the sentence to life in prison. “If the scheduled execution of Mr. Leal Garcia goes ahead, the United States government will have implemented a death penalty after a trial that did not comply with due process rights,” said Christof  Heyns, the U.N.  Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions. “This will be tantamount to an arbitrary deprivation of life.”

In its 30-page brief, the Obama administration said that complying with its obligations to notify consuls in such cases would serve U.S.interests as well as those of the condemned man. “It would place the United States in irreparable breach of its international-law obligation to provide consular notification and assistance under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations,” wrote Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli Jr., in a friend-of-the-court brief.

Leal had the benefit of 45 separate hearings and appeals before his execution and his guilt was beyond question.

Update: On July 7, 2011, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to stay the execution on a 5-4 vote and Leal was executed via lethal injection. In his last minutes, Humberto Leal repeatedly said he was sorry and accepted responsibility – admitting his actions for the first time since his original confession, “I have hurt a lot of people. … I take full blame for everything. I am sorry for what I did,” he said in the death chamber before shouting twice, “Viva Mexico!”.

 

11. Cameron Todd Willingham:

was he an innocent man?


This is a troubling case. Willingham was executed by lethal injection in 2004 after being convicted of setting a fire that killed his three daughters before Christmas 1991. But his case and the ensuing controversy frame the death penalty in a new way: whether Perry used his power as governor to try to dodge responsibility for presiding over the execution of a potentially innocent man. Again, that term “presiding” – a term specifically designed to make it appear that he had more responsibility in the execution than is true.

At Willingham’s trial, Texas fire investigators said they found clear indicators that the fire at the Willingham home in the small town of Corsicana had been intentionally set. By the time of Willingham’s execution in February, 2004, the science of fire investigation had dramatically advanced and what investigators had for decades considered telltale signs of arson were no longer considered reliable.

In the final days before Willingham was put to death, his lawyer filed with the courts a report from Gerald Hurst, one of the nation’s most renowned fire scientists. Hurst’s four-page report asserted for the first time in the case that the indicators of arson the investigators cited had been debunked by scientific advances. The fire, Hurst concluded, might well have been an accident – he did not state categorically that it was an accident. Perry reviewed the report and determined it did not present new information, only new opinion. He also decided it did not merit a stay of execution.

Under Texas law, the Governor can only issue a one-time temporary 30-day stay of execution. Any other clemency or commutation of sentence must be recommended to the Governor by the state’s Pardons and Paroles board. None was forthcoming in the Willingham case.

Lucy Nashed, a Perry spokeswoman said, “Willingham’s conviction was reviewed and upheld by multiple levels of state and federal courts, including nine federal courts – four times by the U.S. Supreme Court alone – over the course of more than a decade.”

The Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles reviewed the latest evidence and refused to recommend that Governor Perry act in this case. Governor Perry independently decided that the evidence did not warrant a stay and he allowed Willingham’s execution to proceed in accordance with his responsibility as Governor.

Did Texas execute an innocent man? In a case that could not have been overturned based on something as definitive as DNA evidence and seven years after the 2004 execution, there’s no way to be 100% sure, but under Texas law, the most that Perry could have done was issue a single 30-day stay. When someone takes the position that Willingham was “innocent,” that person is intentionally ignoring all of the legal maneuvers that occurred and is basing that determination on “feelings.” He was never deemed “innocent” by any legal authority.

If one Googles ”Cameron Todd Willingham” the majority of the hits will be different shadings of the same story line, that of those against the death penalty (Innocence Project, etc.). Every attempt is made to cast doubt on the evidence that Willingham was guilty, especially using quotes from “experts” in the field of fire science. The problem is that many of the quotes are massaged to remove any doubt and make them appear as unquestioned facts, when most stated that the fire could have been accidental. For someone really interested in the truth of the case, one must also have access to the other side of the issue. Here is a link to an interview with the Dallas Morning News by Dudley Sharp who was investigating the “innocence” of Willingham. Willingham’s “innocence” was never established, and none of his appeals gave the appellate courts reason to call for a new trial.

The charge that Perry was knowingly complicit in executing an innocent man is without merit. He rejected the last evidence (the Hurst report) as a reason to stay Willingham’s execution, just as the US Supreme Court, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals and the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals had. His case was tried, appealed, and adjudicated according to the law.

But Perry’s critics don’t give up so easily. As another point of attack, they accuse him of replacing the members of the Forensics Science Commission (FSC) two days before the formal hearing because, they maintain, the commission was going to submit a finding that did not support the governor’s position on Willingham’ s guilt.

Not only is that position based on an incorrect supposition, it is also obviously biased.

Perry did replace the members because: 1) their terms had expired and appointing new members was standard policy, and 2) pushing back the date of the FSC hearing would allow more time for the Corsicana Fire Department (CFDR) and Texas Fire Marshall’s office (TFMR) to respond to the Beyler report (BR). Both were expected to be critical of the Beyler Report. Pushing back the date of the formal hearing also gave the new FSC members time to get up to speed on the details of the case.

The preliminary CFDR blasted the BR on some obvious and important points, making over a hundred comments and corrections to Beyler’s 19 page review of the Willingham case. It made the case that the Beyler report was both inaccurate and biased. The final determination awaits completed CFDR and TFMR reports.

 

12. Perry supports giving in-state tuition to illegals


This is true. Perry signed the bill six years ago. Under the law, any student who has lived in Texas at least three years and graduated from a Texas high school qualifies for in-state tuition. The law also requires noncitizens to apply for citizenship. “I’m for leaving the law like it is because I think it serves a good purpose,” Perry said. Texas was one of the first states to pass an in-state tuition bill for illegal immigrants. Ten states currently have such laws, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. About 3,800 children of immigrants got in-state tuition in 2004, less than 1 percent of students in Texas colleges and universities.

Critics have said it gives a financial advantage to illegal immigrants while U.S. citizens who are not Texas residents still must pay out-of-state tuition rates, which are higher. Personally, I don’t like giving illegals a favorable tuition rate over other state’s legal residents. I understand his reasoning, but I don’t have to like it. I do think that there was some pandering to the Mexican immigrants (legal and illegal) behind the overwhelming votes for this bill.

As a measure of  Texas’ version of the “Dream Act,” popularity, it should be noted that it passed the Texas Senate with NO “no” votes – Perry was not out on a limb on this one, it was overwhelmingly supported. It should also be noted that the Texas “Dream” act should not be confused with the federal version. The Texas version relates to higher education only whereas the federal act would facilitate giving legal status to children who entered the U.S. illegally with their parents.

 

13. Rick Perry is gay

 

A story by Politico predicts that if Texas governor Rick Perry runs for president, he will again have to deal with unproven rumors that he’s gay. Meanwhile, the story itself is helping spread the rumors once more.

As example of the “evidence” that Perry is gay, some have noted that he was a “cheerleader” (and thus, likely to be gay). In fact, he was a Yell Leader, one of five supporting Texas A & M sports teams. Since the school was founded in 1876 and didn’t even admit female students until 1963, no female has been elected to Yell Leader, only men – it’s a tradition thing, not a gay thing.

While running for Governor in 2004,Texas state Democrats asked Perry to address the rumors. In a press conference Perry denied the rumors that he was gay, yet for some his denial raised more questions than it answered.

For his part, Perry continues to be staunchly antigay. He plans to host a prayer-apalooza in August, 2011 at a Houston football stadium, and organizers have confirmed that praying to end homosexuality’s effect on society is on the agenda. The big event is being run in partnership with the American Family Association, which is categorized by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a “hate group” for its spreading misinformation that the SPLC says is dangerous to gay people.

In the past, Perry has been described as “homophobic.” His conservative Christian posturing has offended many liberals and others concerned with equal treatment under the law for the gay and lesbian community.

Here a statement from Instinct Magazine, a gay publication: “Sheeple worried about Rick Perry’s ambiguous statements in support of a state’s right to pass marriage equality last week can unclench their booties; the Texas Governor and possible 2012 GOP presidential candidate wants to remind you that he is still a raging anti-equality homophobe.”

How does one disprove unsubstantiated accusations except by denying them and by pointing out the absence of any evidence to the contrary? Those critics who maintain that Perry is homophobic and those who believe him to be gay should get together and work it out.

 

14. Perry is a “weak” Governor (the Governor of a state that limits the Governor’s powers)

 

This is true – but doesn’t tell the full story. Texas does limit the governor’s powers as compared to many other states, but to conclude that the governor is merely a figurehead, with little power or influence, is simply wrong. Once again, critics are trying to diminish Perry’s achievements by denigrating his part in Texas’ successes, as if his participation as governor was inconsequential.

The formal powers of a governor are measured by using four factors: tenure of office, appointive/administrative powers, budgetary powers, and legislative powers.

The Texas governor has the strongest tenure of office in that he is elected to four-year terms and there are no term limits.

The Texas governor’s appointive powers are limited by the state’s plural executive structure, meaning that he or she cannot count on the loyalty, support, or cooperation of other members of the executive branch. Some of them may even belong to the opposition party. In Texas, the lieutenant governor, attorney general, comptroller of public accounts, state land commissioner, agricultural commissioner, Railroad Commission, and Texas State Board of Education are all elected by voters, not appointed by the governor.

Unlike most other state governors, the Texas governor has very restricted budgetary powers. In Texas, it is the Legislative Budget Board, dominated by the speaker and lieutenant governor that presents a budget to the legislature for approval. A Texas governor’s most significant budgetary power is the line-item veto power over the state budget bill. Because the legislature has often adjourned within days of the budget bill reaching the governor’s desk, they often have no opportunity to override the governor’s line-item veto.

In terms of legislative power, the Texas governor’s veto power is very strong because gubernatorial vetoes or item vetoes are rarely overridden because the legislature has already adjourned by the time that the governor exercises the veto. In Rick Perry’s case, he has vetoed 273 bills since his first term in 2001. He’s not timid about his veto power. The governor also has the power to call additional special sessions of the legislature and is not limited to the number of special sessions he/she calls.

In comparison to other states: thirty other state’s governors were ranked as having more power than Texas’ chief executive, seventeen are ranked about equal, and three had even less power. In summary, Texas limits the governor’s power primarily in two areas, appointive and budgetary. The weakness in the appointive aspect is because in Texas, most of the other executives are elected, not appointed. And as noted above, the legislature has primary responsibility for drafting a budget. HERE is a link to a University of North Carolina chart which ranks the power of each state’s chief executive – using 2007 conditions.

The low comparative ranking of the Texas governor is consistent with the traditionalistic and individualistic political culture of the state. In other words, it is intentional, not accidental. Judging by Texas’ success, perhaps some other states might want to consider reducing the power of their governors too?

 

15. He is squishy on immigration

 

There is some truth in that. His stance against Texas adopting an Arizona-style immigration law was initially troubling to many conservatives even though his point was that it would be better to force the federal government to enforce the border since that is one of their primary responsibilities. A true statement, but one easier said than done.

He did add a bill prohibiting Sanctuary Cities as an emergency item in the regular session and added it to the call during the special session, but there wasn’t enough resolve in either the legislature or the Governor to overcome the business lobby that was adamantly against the bill. It died in the last special session. It was disappointing to conservatives that the Governor didn’t call another special session to continue the fight, but he maintains that It would have been a waste of taxpayer money to call another special session on an issue that lawmakers would not take action to pass – twice. The governor says that he will continue to support the prohibition of  sanctuary cities in the future.

Some have said that when Perry said that the Arizona law “wasn’t the right direction for Texas,” he was taking a position against strict enforcement of immigration laws. Not so – what he actually said was, “I fully recognize and support a state’s right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas.” His concern was related to the portion of the Arizona law thatrequired peace officers to inquire about citizenship status. Perry believes that the best solution is to allow officers the discretion to ask if they deem it necessary to carry out their duty.

“Texas has a rich history with Mexico, our largest trading partner, and we share more than 1,200 miles of border, more than any other state,” Perry said. “As the debate on immigration reform intensifies, the focus must remain on border security and the federal government’s failure to adequately protect our borders. Securing our border is a federal responsibility, but it is a Texas problem, and it must be addressed before comprehensive immigration reform is discussed.” Texas has allocated more than $400 million in state funding to secure the border since 2005. In the last legislative session alone, $152 million was earmarked for border security.

Perry has also adopted the National Governor’s Policy, part of which states:

  • Federal immigration policies should ensure that new immigrants do not become a public charge to federal, state, or local governments.
  • The federal government must provide adequate information to and consult with states on issues concerning immigration decisions that affect the states.
  • States should not have to incur significant costs in implementing federal laws regarding immigration status as a condition of benefits.

See the full National Governor’s Associationpolicy on immigration here.

In the final analysis, Governor Perry says that the nation cannot have effective immigration policy until the border is secure. Today, the border is not secure and this is where we need to focus our resources.

Here’s a link to On The Issues which has more references to Perry’s statements on immigration-related subjects (too many to include here):

 

16. Perry is a member of the Bilderberg cabal and therefore believes in a New World Order (NWO). That is reason alone to eliminate him from voting consideration.

 

Governor Perry did attend a Bilderberg meeting in June, 2007, and now some say (mostly Ron Paul supporters) that he is their hand-picked candidate for the job of POTUS in 2012. Since attending four years ago, his detractors would have us believe that he’s been studying his Bilderberg bible, taking classes in New World Governing, and polishing his Illuminati lapel pin. Does this mean that the Bilderbergers are ready to dump President Obama (who they also supposedly put in office) in favor of Rick Perry?

This is a Texas-sized Conspiracy theory – appropriate for the Governor of Texas.

Here are some hard facts about the Bilderberg Group. The group (named after the Dutch hotel where they first met) was founded in 1954. Started by Denis Healey, Joseph Retinger, David Rockefeller and Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, they aim to bring together financiers, industrialists, politicians and opinion formers to discuss problems facing the western world. There are no “members” of the Bilderberg Group, only attendees.

Every year they meet, away from the intrusive eyes of the press. The confidentiality enables people to speak honestly without fear of repercussions. Attendance is only by invitation of the steering committee. They network, eat, drink, play golf and return home. At each meeting, a broad cross-section of leading citizens are assembled for nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern especially in the fields of foreign affairs and the international economy.

It is a small, flexible international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced. Bilderberg’s only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-nine conferences have been held. After each meeting, the names of the participants as well as the agenda are made public and available to the press.

Invitations to Bilderberg conferences are extended by the Chairman following consultation with the Steering Committee members. Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, their standing and their contribution to the selected agenda. There usually are about 120 participants of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds from finance, industry, labor, education and communications. Participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity.

Following are a few of the prominent persons attending one or more Bilderberg meetings over the years; the list is intended to illustrate the varied positions, background, and political views of those who have participated (only USA participants are listed):

Presidents Bill Clinton and Gerald Ford, John Bolton, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Timothy Geithner, Paul Volcker, Terry McAuliffe, Ben Bernanke, David Rockefeller, Rupert Murdoch, Henry Kissinger, Donald Rumsfield, ABC anchor Peter Jennings, William F. Buckley, George Stephanopoulos, Mort Zuckerman, Thomas Friedman, George Soros, Senators Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Diane Feinstein, Tom Daschle, Chuck Hagel, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, John Corzine, and Governors Mark Sanford (SC), Mark Warner (VA), George Pataki (NY), Christine Todd Whitman (NJ) and Kathleen Sebelius (KS).

It’s common for many CEO’s of large corporations to be present at the meetings. For example, the CEO’s of Amazon, Alcoa, Coca Cola, Fannie Mae, Facebook, Ford, Goldman Sachs, Microsoft, Pepsico, Time Inc. and the Washington Post have all attended Bildergerg meetings. Even Prime Ministers Tony Blair and Margaret Thatcher (G.B.) attended a Bilderberg conference.

Here is a LINK to conference meeting dates, locations, and agendas, and this LINK will take you to the “Latest Meetings” tab. Simply select the year and click on “Participants” to see who attended.

Some say that they secretly control the world’s governments; they seek the world’s destruction so it can be rebuilt more perfectly. They have long infiltrated nearly all aspects of American society, business and government and they are bent on establishing a New World Order. The appeal of this theory is its utter vagueness and total flexibility based on location and government. Basically, the conspiritists believe that anyone in power is probably doing something super secretive and deadly right now that’s designed to increase the suffering of the masses and bring more wealth and power to the elite. It goes without saying that there’s no proof of any of this, but then, that’s the appeal of conspiracy theories.

And what about Perry’s attendance violating the Logan Act? For those not versed on such matters: “The Logan Act (18 U.S.C.A. § 953 [1948]) is a single federal statute making it a crime for a citizen to confer with foreign governments against the interests of the United States. Specifically, it prohibits citizens from negotiating with other nations on behalf of the United States without authorization.” It is ludicrous to accuse Perry of “negotiating” with “other nations” just as it would be to accuse the other participants, like Bill Clinton, Diane Feinstein, Chris Dodd, or Bill Gates. They attended a conference with other influential people, that’s the extent of it. Find something else to complain about.

No one is saying that the movers and shakers who have attended the conferences don’t have an impact on our world, just look at the people who attend – they are among the most influential and powerful individuals in every category – of course they have an impact. But these people will have influence on our lives because of who they are and the power they hold, not because of any blood oath to the Bilderbergers. Frankly, the United Nations (UN) is probably a bigger threat to our republic than the Bilderberg group.

Only in science fiction (and conspiracy theories) can someone like Rick Perry be turned into a mind-numbed robot following the Bilderberg’s nefarious instructions to take over the world … instructions that they somehow implanted in less than three days … four years ago … right.

 

17. Texas’ abysmal rankings on various lists

 

These rankings were selected by critics for one purpose, and that is to smear Texas and by association, Rick Perry.

No sources have been cited for the rankings, thereby preventing a reader from verifying that: 1) the numbers were accurately reported, 2) they are from a reliable source, and 3) the original context is known.

Nevertheless,  we’ll treat them as if they are true and offer a reason to explain such a dismal performance. The rankings themselves (assuming that they’re true) are not anything that the state or Rick Perry should take pride in achieving.

But, the biggest single factor that affects the state’s ranking in almost anything that uses population as a factor, is an estimated 1.6 million illegal immigrants currently residing inTexas.  Source: Pew Hispanic Center. (Ten states have populations that are less than 1.6 million).

After all, if the federal government was doing what is clearly their responsibility (controlling the border), Texas wouldn’t have 1,600,000 illegal residents. Think for a moment, how would your state cope with 1.6 million more illegal immigrants? What would that influx do to your state’s rankings?

For example, here is one of the rankings relating to high school graduations, Texas is said to be ranked:

  • 1st in the percentage of people over 25 without a high school diploma

This position suffers from the impact that 1.6 million illegals have on the Texas rankings. Most illegal immigrants don’t come to Texas bringing a high school diploma with them and they don’t come to the U.S. to finish high school, they come to work. Though they are counted in the census, few will have graduated, resulting in a disproportionate number ofTexas residents without high school diplomas.

And here is another group of awful Texas rankings:

  • 1st in percentage of uninsured children
  • 1st in percentage of non-elderl y uninsured
  • 1st in percentage of population uninsure

When one considers that fully 38% of Hispanics in Texas do not have health insurance(that’s almost 3.5 million people, more than the population of 17 states), it’s not surprising that the state would show up poorly on national rankings of residents insured.Over 17.5% of the Hispanic population in Texas is illegal. Those factors, along with the high cost of health insurance and the income level of the illegal residents explain why the state would rank high in uninsured residents.

Here’s another one, Texas is

  • 3rd in percentage of people living below the poverty level

Once again, the ranking will be badly skewed by illegal immigrants. The Pew Center estimates that 21% of Hispanics living in Texas are below the poverty level and since 17.5% of the Hispanic population are illegal, that amounts to approximately 336,299 illegal residents below the poverty level. Once again, more than enough to skew the rankings.

There are only two ways to improve these rankings, 1) reduce the number of illegals, or 2) increase tazes to pay for the additional help they will need. It may not be compassionate, but Texans generally will not vote to increase taxes to pay for illegal immigrant support.

All of the Hispanic-related information referenced above can be found at: Pew Hispanic Center.

 

18. Rick Perry is way too chummy with Muslims

 

Perry has had a surprisingly warm relationship with Muslims as governor,” says Mohamed Elbiary, founder of the Freedom and Justice Foundation, a Muslim public policy organization in Texas.

His record indicates that Perry has had a “respectful” relationship with at least one particular group of Muslims, the Ismailis. Perry’s relatively good relations with the group has already sparked distrust among some conservative bloggers. It is sometimes wise to remember that the governor is the governor of all Texans, without exclusion.

We’ve seen him for 20 years at state level, as lieutenant governor and state governor,” Mr. Elbiary says. “Throughout that whole history, he’s never taken an anti-Muslim or anti-Islam position. He’s a live-and-let-live type of Texan, and relations have been good.” It should be noted that while Perry has remained “respectful” to Muslims, he has been a staunch, unwavering supporter ofIsrael.

The governor – like other American politicians (from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to President John F. Kennedy) – has built a relationship with the Aga Khan (head of the Ismailis) based on respect and mutual interest, one that could be carried into the White House if Perry runs and gets elected. Here is another source for an analysis of Perry’s ties to Aga Khan. It also includes the complete lesson plan for what critics have called “Perry’s Pro-Sharia School Curriculum.”

In fact, Perry’s relations with the Ismailis, a Shia sect of Islam whose adherents number between 30,000 and 40,000 in Texas and 15 to 20 million worldwide, have been particularly positive, says Mahmoud Eboo, President of the Ismaili Council for the USA. “I believe that Governor Perry’s leadership philosophy has been to serve Texans of all races and religions and his relationship with the Muslim community generally and the Ismaili community in particular has been cordial and respectful,” Mr. Eboo says in an email.

I’ve seen many accusations that reference CAIR’s support of Perry for President, but they all emanate from the same single source –  (I won’t give her any publicity), I’ve not found any other independent source for CAIR support of Perry.

CAIR supposedly was upset that Perry didn’t invite them to the “Response” prayer event in Houston. They even teamed up with the ACLU to protest the exclusion. Why on earth would they have wanted to be at a Christian event anyway?

He also took a stand to stop the Gaza flotilla boat, “The Audacity of Hope” with his June 28 letter asking Eric Holder to bring the flotilla participants to justice for violating US law and he has never appointed a Muslim to any significant government position (including Judgeships) in Texas.

I’ve not found any evidence of Perry being supportive of any Muslim group other than the previously mentioned Ismaili group. And since the Islamailis are a persecuted Shia minority in Saudia Arabia, that probably means that the Saudis may not like Perry’s association with them either.

Rather than reaching out – as both presidents Bush and Obama mistakenly did – to problematic organizations associated with the Muslim Brotherhood’s expressly political agenda, Perry’s choice to engage with a more “progressive” group should be a good sign.

And on the New York mosque issue: When Perry was questioned about a mosque near ground-zero in New York, he said, “To build a mosque near Ground Zero would be insensitive to the victims and families of 9/11 and would make the healing process much more difficult for everyone that was touched by this tragedy.”

He continued,I’m a big believer in freedom of religion but believe it would be best for all involved to put the facility elsewhere.” “However, zoning is a local responsibility and as a staunch supporter of the 10th Amendment, I do not think the federal government should take steps to intercede or overrule the wishes of local residents. The citizens of New York City will decide the fate of this building.” There’s that 10th Amendment again.

In a nominating race where every candidate is vying for the Christian conservative vote, a critical part of the GOP’s base, Perry will likely be criticized for his relationship with the Muslim community in Texas, says one professor of political science.

Another thing that should be considered when vetting Perry on the Muslim/Islam issue is his support of Israel. Governor Perry has been a staunch supporter of Israel. After a trip to the area in 2007, the governor supported Texas’ divestment from companies that do business with Iran, a main opponent of Israeli freedom. Additionally, the Texas-Israel Chamber of Commerce was created to help launch future commercial interests and solidify the strong business and cultural connections between the two states.

In 2009, Gov. RickPerry received the Defender of Jerusalem Award, given to public figures who have demonstrated support and commitment to the state ofIsrael and its capitol,Jerusalem. The governor accepted the award while on his trip toIsrael, where he also met with Israeli President Shimon Peres, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and business and academic leaders.

During that trip, Perry gave an interview to the Jerusalem Post in which he affirmed his support for Israel, “I’m a big believer that this country was given to the people of Israel a long time ago, by God, and that’s ordained.”

Here’s another article about Perry’s ties with Muslims at Newsmax.

 

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COMMENTS

  • gekster

    Thanks for getting this posted.
    I know you jumped through hoops to get it, and it is apreciated.

    • joylily514

      Thanks so much for doing all the homework. It’s appreciated more than you know. Great work and keep it up.

  • westcoastpatriette

    It covers every conceivable “issue” and then some. It is a helpful starting point as we head into the race. Opponents as well as honest vetters will leave no stone unturned in their quest to figure out just who Rick Perry is and what kind of President he would make.

    I will leave my personal impressions and concerns to myself for now but am looking forward to getting to know him better through the months ahead.

  • acat

    Perfect, izoneguy. Just perfect.

    Good find, good negotiation to get the repost cleared.

    Mew

    • acat

      Seems to this cat like the two aren’t friendly, but are both adult enough to not go after the other in public.

      The media would like a public Bush-Perry feud only slightly less than a Bush-Perry bromance.

      I’m pleased to see both camps not giving the Mostly Stupid Media anything to cover. If enough politicans did that, sooner or later they’d go back to reporting, you know, *facts*.

      Mew

  • http://www.usdebateboard.com usdebateboard

    Davey Axelrod would have us believe Obama had nothing to do with a bad economy Bush left him, and Perry had nothing to do with a pretty good economy after Bush left office.

    • acat

      It’s short enough to put into a one-image graphic…. and undeniably true.

      Mew

    • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

      in the economy of Texas since Bush left the WH.

  • RealQuiet

    Fantastic Izone.

    • Flagstaff

      Kept me up to 2:40 am.

  • johnthebaptistmoore

    Red State could have a section on all of the “pros” and “cons” of all of the ’12 candidates for GOP President and make it easy to access by anyone interested in such things. Good job on this piece, as many have questions and concerns about Rick Perry and about all of the GOP candidates for ’12 President. I want Barack Obama out as President, and I’m for everything that will make this, actually, happen.

    • YnotNOW

      to list “pros and cons” for various candidates. But perhaps a summary of candidates’ positions on various topics of interest, and then we readers can decide what is “pro” and what is “con.”

      Note; numerous other organizations have such a list, a “voter guide,’ that shows how candidates voted previously on specific issues, or statements they have made. Most are compiled issue-specific (think NRA or Right-to-Life).

  • Uma Richie

    with your quote from Gov. Perry himself regarding his Gardasil executive order.

    Perry’s own admission of being in the wrong is 100 times better than garnet92′s apologetics in section 1.

    Garnet92′s explanation is actually infuriating to people like me who have no problem with vaccinating our kids against diseases that can be passed around a classroom, but think it is too much government intrusion to require kids to receive a vaccine against an STD. Further, garnet’s explanation that declaring the vaccine “required” rather than “recommended” was necessary to make the insurance companies pay for it reeks of liberal end-justifies-the-means policy-making.

    • Scope

      The whole Gardasil flap is explained much better here.

      Garnet did an enormous amount of research on Perry, and I appreciate his fair approach, however, after reading so much about Perry, from so many sources, he definitely could have a done a better job with some of his explanations. The section on illegals doesn’t include any of the steps that Perry has taken to fight border security, including sending the Texas Rangers to the border etc. There are some other sections that could use some further explanation as well.

    • aesthete

      Esp with the mealy-mouthed “it prevents cancer” apologetics — as anyone with a medical background gets used to seeing, just about everything causes and prevents cancer.

    • runner12

      I am glad that Perry did a mia culpa on the Gardasil issue. He was wrong on that issue and I am glad that he admitted it.

  • conservativecurmudgeon

    ..and this post has been a tremendous help.

    I will say, however, that that which was troubling to me about him still remains rather troubling. I am not sure that Mr. Perry’s first instincts are conservative, or rather “good government Republican”. But, this information is very helpful, and I will continue to refer to it.

    Thanks again for the post.

  • cwilson

    …over Obama, but I do have one big concern with Rick Perry that the article has not allayed — and that’s illegal immigration. I don’t think the argument presented by garnet92 does enough to counter Perry’s very public statements, such as considering a border fence “idiocy” and “nonsense”.

    His only apparent concern with illegal immigration appears to be trans-border gangs and narcoviolence; he doesn’t really seem to see anything wrong with “peacefully” violating our borders and laws. And that worries me.

    Not as much as four more years of Obama, tho.

    • aesthete

      that state governors *should* be concerned with — or should state governors also have to weigh in on the moral wrong of people not filling out their income taxes right, or of American citizens “illegally” speeding? Texas’ tax, legal and entitlements structure are such that it actually makes money off of its illegals. I imagine that a Texas government is not going to want to see that revenue dry up any time soon. (Nonetheless, I agree that we should be encouraging the legal immigration of aforementioned peaceful immigrants.)

      • cwilson

        regulate employment. They also have the police power to — and a general welfare interest in — protecting me from identity theft and fraud. Illegals routinely engage in both.

        Here in FL, a law came up that would require employers to use E-Verify for all employees. It failed, thanks to agribusiness payoffs.

        But I don’t remember any wailing or gnashing of teeth, or complaints about the database’s inaccuracy or the travails of innocent folks caught in the bureacracy’s web, when *I* was forced to undergo E-Verify to retain MY job. But then, I’m NOT an illegal, so…

        My point is, the States have a vested interest in protecting against non-violent white collar crimes like fraud and identity theft — which EVERY SINGLE illegal engages in, if they drive. or take a job. or rent a house. or an apartment. or open a bank account.

        There’s also the public health issue of overloaded emergency rooms — many of which in the SW have closed, since they can’t handle the load of acting as illegals’ primary care physicians. Much of this cost falls on the private hospitals — but also on the state coffers.

        It’s not ALL about narcoterrorists and gangs — and if Gov. Perry is ignorant of those other issues, or as resolutely determined to ignore them as you are, then that is troubling to me.

        But…not as much as four more years of Chairman Zero.

        • gekster

          I’m in a boat, and while sailing, I hit some thing in the water, and there is now a hole where water is coming in, and will sink my boat.
          What do I do.
          I abandon ship, giving all up for lost.
          I bail water, which will not fix the problem, as water will keep coming in no matter how much I bail, but if I bail enough, the boat won’t sink
          Or I fix the leak first, and them bail out the water.
          Perry wants to fix the leak first, (seal the border),
          then bail out the water(E-verify).
          Those are your options, what do you do.
          Obama wants to swim for shore,and let the ship(of state) sink.

          • cwilson

            …as a state governor, he only had the power to “bail the water” by pushing policies that would slow the influx. I.E. laws that would reduce the attractiveness or even viability of living in Texas as an illegal. Or, AZ-style police enforcement laws. However, while NOT bailing the water (except for pushing, but failing, to end sanctuary cities) and coming out against the AZ SB1186 [*], he ALSO made extremely public statements that fixing the hole in the boat was “idiocy”.

            I’ve been talking to conservative folks ’round here, and for every single person I’ve talked to, this is THE big concern about Perry. Not Gardasil, not “the muslim thing”, but immigration. Sure, he’d be better than The Marxist in the general election — but we’re in the Primary season right now. Perry really needs to address this, because his current competition is not Obama, but rather Cain, Bachmann, Newt, Santorum, Romney…

            [*] Perry claims to like SB1186 except that it REQUIRES police officers to inquire about immigration status. Perry prefers that it be voluntary. The only problem is, if you make it voluntary, then the officer is open to charges of discrimination for choosing to use that discretion in THIS case, but not THAT case…the rational response of the officer is to “voluntarily” choose to NEVER ask. Nobody will sue him or raise a ruckus with his boss or city council, and block his promotion, then. It HAS to be mandatory — making it voluntary is just padding the legal code with feel-good stuff for the base, without ACTUALLY improving the situation. Perry is a smart guy, he knows this — but thinks Bubba won’t figure it out.

            That’s troubling, too — that he’d advocate such a deceptive “boob bait for Bubba” approach on an important issue.

          • gekster

            He did say enforce the laws that are on the books.
            That to me would be the simplest solution.
            We do have good laws to handle illegal immigration,
            but they are not enforced.
            I’m sure he will get around to adressing this eventually.

          • BA Cyclone

            if he came out hard on this angle and emphasized he is against *illegal* immigration, laws overall are fine and need to be enforced, the *bureaucracy* for legal immigration is flatly insane and is a huge contributor to the problem of illegal immigration.

            If he could go that direction firmly, that whole issue could be neutered for him. But I think he does have to do all of that to truly address the legitimate questions of his position on this.

          • BA Cyclone

            if he came out hard on this angle and emphasized he is against *illegal* immigration, laws overall are fine and need to be enforced, the *bureaucracy* for legal immigration is flatly insane and is a huge contributor to the problem of illegal immigration.

            If he could go that direction firmly, that whole issue could be neutered for him. But I think he does have to do all of that to truly address the legitimate questions of his position on this.

          • Scope

            As we know, it is a part of the laws that are already on the books, but, it was never funded properly from the beginning, and was full of fatal flaws. How can you make a law mandatory when the system was not even in place to any dependable degree? From an article I read at Heritage, back in 2010, they showed the disposition of the monies given to DHS, and money was actually decreased by the Obama admin. for the E-Verify system. Oh, Nappy claims that it is in great shape, but she said the same thing about the border being secure. Another part of the laws on the books were the 287d (?) program which trained law enforcement officials from state and local departments to qualify as deportation officers, of course that was at the local departments expense, but it was showing great success when it was funded and in place. The Obama admin stripped all of the money from that program, and instituted the Secure Communities program, which is a database of those already arrested and convicted. In other words, if an illegal didn’t get in trouble, they were never entered into any system.

            The Heritage article said that the Obama admin has all but severed the cooperation between federal and state and local law enforcement as to deportation, and most other illegal issues. Yet, the admin has put the onus on employers to “catch” illegals applying for jobs. Now, I have a question. If an employer discovers that an illegal has applied for a job, what is that employer supposed to do? Call the local law enforcement? ICE? Nappy? Who are they to call? The most obvious would be local cops, right? Even if they call the cops, what are the cops supposed to do, as applying for a job is not an arrestable offense. And, where are they to find that individual? Are they to do an investigation of where the person is, even when it is considered discriminatory to even ask anyone for their proof of citizenship, even when they are stopped for a possible traffic or any kind of violation?

            Remember the case of the illegal who was released from jail here in VA, and went out and ran head on into the nuns car, killing 3 of them, while he was drunk? He was supposed to be deported upon his release from jail, but, problem was there was no one to pick him up and deport him, so they just let him walk free.

            I’m not saying that Perry has been the most strident on the illegal problem, but, the Obama admin has made such a travesty of the illegal problem, just so as many of them as possible stay here and vote for Obama. Perry had said at one time that the problem that he had with the AZ immigration law was that he didn’t want to turn his law enforcement officers into deportation or illegal chasing devices. That obviously would take all of their time, and fighting crime in all other cases would take a backseat. Crime doesn’t go away because there aren’t enough police to control it. And, every state, including Texas has cut back on their budgets, and of course for many localities, the number of police are cut, rather than the community social issue workers, who never lose their jobs. I honestly believe that Perry has been in a rock and a hard place with the illegal problems. Obama, hating Perry and Texas anyway, would have pounced on Perry in a heartbeat given the slightest chance.

          • gekster

            We will hve to wait and see where Perry comes out on this,
            but whatever it is, it HAS to be better than Obamas stance.

          • Flagstaff

            “I honestly believe that Perry has been in a rock and a hard place with the illegal problems.”

            Because Perry is a border state governor, he couldn’t sit back and rely on the “right” reply, which is “We (as in “we, the federal government”) stop the inflow first, then we deal with the residue.” In border states, the governors have to deal with the residue every day, and that isn’t meant to use “residue” as a pejorative–it’s just what is left over after some prior step.

            The other candidates have had the luxury of being able to answer “properly,” having no need to actually address the problem in their own official capacities. Well, Bachmann or Paul might have proposed some legislation, but we know where that would have gone. Anyway, as Perry has tried to deal with part of the residual issue, he has a record, and some folks don’t like it. I’d mind it less if he hadn’t made the “idiotic fence” comment. (In a similar way, Romney is stuck with MassCare because it was an issue that was going to be addressed in MA, one way or another.)

            I do disagree with this: “Perry had said at one time that the problem that he had with the AZ immigration law was that he didn?t want to turn his law enforcement officers into deportation or illegal chasing devices. That obviously would take all of their time, and fighting crime in all other cases would take a backseat.”

            That’s an incorrect interpretation of the AZ law, an interpretation error that Perry should understand. Under the AZ law, nobody would be asked for anything until they had been stopped or arrested for something else, so the only extra work would be that which was involved in recording their illegal status and calling ICE, which often happens anyway. It was made mandatory to avoid charges of selective enforcement and application, to protect the cops from slapp suits.

          • perry4prez

            I am against illegal immigration as much as the next guy, but it shouldn’t be up to small businesses to enforce the laws. If Governor Perry is opposed to e-Verify because it imposes yet more government regulations on small businesses, I am OK with that.

  • Scope

    I usually like reading what Pamela Geller writes, even though she seems to be at times living in a world where there are radical Islamists, waiting to behead her, around every corner she turns. I couldn’t agree with her more about Grover Norquist and his radical ties, as I’ve read the same thing written by many others.

    Now she is trying to tie Rick Perry to the radicals. Her entire article is more of a rant against Norquist, than proving any connection of Perry to any radicals. She states that Perry has “concluded 2 cooperation agreements” what ever the heck that means, between Perry and some Muslims. She is appaled because Perry gave a speech in the company of Norquist in Dallas. Wow, now you are evil if you give a speech while standing on the same stage as another evil person, or if you are seen in the same location as an evil one. She even does the correct liberal thing with insuring that Perry looks like just another Bush, and is sure to mention him.

    The entire article seems to be really trying way to hard to paint Perry with a bad brush, and she really stretches it. I suspect that Geller has another pony in the race, and she is trying to do her best to insure that Perry is marginalized.

    There are a few questions that come to mind after reading her article. Wasn’t Perry just accused of being to Christian because he was the highlight of a recent prayer rally? Don’t the radicals hate the infidel Christians, and want to cut all their heads off? Why then would Perry approve of Sharia law? Perry is an unapologetic supporter of Israel, and even said that in his announcement speech. He called for the flotilla participants to be punished.

    I am guessing that Ms. Geller is playing some kind of game, and that can unfortunately result in the re-election of Obama. It seems she is trying to split the party, and the possible unity that the Republicans need so desperately.

    • izoneguy

      But Rudy will probably come out and endorse Perry.
      Or maybe she likes Trump. Either way, most people don’t
      pay attention to Pamela and she should stick to what she knows.

    • peg_c

      I’ve only recently found out about this, and there is scant evidence beyond Geller’s assertions. I like Geller a lot, but I have friends who follow Geller and as Geller does see EVERYTHING through a jihadi prism. I am as anti-Islamofascist as anyone but this is getting tiring when directed at good conservatives. I have close friends on FB with serious blogs who are now attacking Perry based on Geller’s post(s).

      This is getting dangerously out of control. It’s not loons doing this – it’s strong conservatives. Very disheartening.

      • gekster

        from:
        http://www.theismaili.org/cms/900/Mawlana-Hazar-Imam-signs-agreement-between-the-Ismaili-Imamat-and-the-State-of-Texas

        There appears to be nothing sinister in the agreement.
        And after reading some of thier website, I see no radicalism.
        I could be wrong, but I did not see it.

        • izoneguy


          cain/romney/gingrich on muslims in government

          Perry did say he would not scold the “enemy” but defeat them.

          Perry has not said – like Obama – that he would sit down with countries like Iran.

          And regarding this:
          I have close friends on FB with serious blogs who are now attacking Perry based on Geller?s post(s).

          The more I look into it – Geller is a hardcore Palin supporter.
          So are most of the people that support Geller, I know a few.
          I asked one – What do you think of Rick Perry? She said – If he is the nominee she would vote for him.

          So yes I think we will see more supporters of Palin & Romney on the attack against Perry – until the American public can really contrast & compare.

          I love Sarah Palin to death – but she could not beat Obama in 2012 –
          Now in 2020? I think Sarah would be the one to beat.

          • peg_c

            I love Palin, too. I agree with what Erick wrote months ago, that if Perry got in, Palin would not. There are at least 3 or 4 candidates who are in whom I can enthusiastically support in the primaries and I’ll vote for ANYONE against 0bama. That’s ALL that matters, ultimately. This #18 update is very good and was greatly needed. I’d actually say this diary needs to stay at the top for a good long while and be updated whenever necessary! AWESOME job!

        • BigRedConservative

          Lots of chants, hymns, dancing and lovely art. And this gentleman seems like a decent guy. So we have a Governor who-shock-talked to a peaceful Muslim. Consider me underwhelmed.

          • izoneguy

            “So we have a Governor who-shock-talked to a peaceful Muslim. Consider me underwhelmed.”

            I think you are confusing the two things.

            “Perry did say he would not scold the ?enemy? but defeat them.”
            Perry said this during his speech at the Redstate gathering….

            He did not say that here:
            http://www.theismaili.org/cms/900/Mawlana-Hazar-Imam-signs-agreement-between-the-Ismaili-Imamat-and-the-State-of-Texas

            This was in 2009…..one has nothing to do with the other.

            But Geller & her friends that are thinking Perry is some kind of “Islamic Collaborator” is ridiculous.

          • aesthete

            American citizen who happens to be Muslim =/= radical Islamist who would classify as our enemy.

  • mikefrey

    I appreciate the work you did to outline the potential issues and fill in the meat. #6 on education and graduations was a particular gem.

    Mike

    • izoneguy

      Another person wrote this – I found and talked to them and they agreed to let me post it here. If I was that great at research I would probably be working for Perry or FOX. LOL

      • gekster

        That name seams to fit you well. ;)

        • izoneguy

          I just hope the Obamanators don’t catch me!!

  • peg_c

    Even if you did publish another person’s work :-) Someone is a superb researcher.

  • Vegas_Rick

    Thanks for sharing this. I don’t think I would have seen it otherwise. I am printing a copy to carry with me to counter the talking points. Thanks again.

  • melissaann

    I want to feel good about this guy, but I can’t. I cannot believe that we’d be rationalizing this Islamist connection and DREAM act thing if he were a democrat.

    • Repair_Man_Jack

      Oops, sorry, the Islamist canard is exactly that. If that doesn’t work out for you, you can always claim next that he’s really Peter The Hermit attempting to incite a Crusade w/ his E-VIL Christianist Prayer Rally.

    • izoneguy

      On Islam???

      Obama wins!!!

      Four more years of Obama will
      give you Sharia law in hundreds of American communities.

      On a DREAM act???

      Obama wins!!

      Harry Reid wants a nationwide DREAM act
      tied into an amnesty program.

      Any questions

      • melissaann

        I don?t even know what Salon is. I read a piece on American Thinker, which I happen to trust, as does Mark Levin. Sarcasm isn?t necessary. It makes me angry to see other conservatives defend what we otherwise would decry as indefensible if it was the other way around. I didn?t say bury the guy (Perry), only that we shouldn?t allow our fierce conviction morph into ? anyone but Obama? desperation. I only wanted to express my concern over our knee-jerk willingness to rationalize. I don?t believe that, if this were the other way around, we?d be so accommodating. I do not want to compromise for the sake of ridding ourselves of the corrosion that is swallowing the nation and the stench that overwhelms the Oval Office as we speak. I want to take it all back in 2012 as much as you do. But it makes me cringe to think that we backed someone who, although we got him in, will still be leaving manure tracks on the White House carpets.

        • sccrenny

          Is nominating “Obama-lite” the only way to beat Obama? I will instantly back away and say that I don’t consider Perry Obama-lite. However, I am disturbed by the frenzy I see here to coronate a candidate who has already demonstrated a penchant for government power over individual rights (Gardasil), who has already conceded the immigration debate, just waiting to “seal the borders” before rewarding the illegals already here full rights, The other concern I have is with “capital cronyism”.

          I know Perry is “shiny and new” to the race, but I already see enough to wonder if he is the “stupid party’s” newest John McCain, just younger and handsomer.

  • gregorysstewart

    Izoneguy, that was one fantastic fact-tastic article you wrote. Probably the most informative briefer I have ever read on a candidate here.

  • izoneguy

    Who’s next Jimmy Carter???

    The DNC came out today and claimed credit for the Texas economy.

    And the Paul Krugman came out and said Texas was horrible??


    Bill Clinton: Rick Perry is a ?Good-Looking Rascal,?

  • GregInFla

    Remember that the poverty level, as defined by the leaders of the Great Society, keeps getting increased so that people never leave poverty. And poverty here is nowhere near like living in poverty in Mexico. And also, rich people do not come to this country; poor ones do, with a dream to improve their lives. Coming here may be a nightmare for the rich people.

  • melissaann

    I don’t even know what Salon is. I read a piece on American Thinker, which I happen to trust, as does Mark Levin. Sarcasm isn’t necessary. It makes me angry to see other conservatives defend what we otherwise would decry as indefensible if it was the other way around. I didn’t say bury the guy (Perry), only that we shouldn’t allow our fierce conviction morph into ” anyone but Obama” desperation. I only wanted to express my concern over our knee-jerk willingness to rationalize. I don’t believe that, if this were the other way around, we’d be so accommodating. I do not want to compromise for the sake of ridding ourselves of the corrosion that is swallowing the nation and the stench that overwhelms the Oval Office as we speak. I want to take it all back in 2012 as much as you do. But it makes me cringe to think that we backed someone who, although we got him in, will still be leaving manure tracks on the White House carpets.

  • silentcal2012

    http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/

    “Legislation authored by border legislators Pat Haggerty and Eddie Lucio establishes an important study that will look at the feasibility of bi-national health insurance. This study recognizes that the Mexican and U.S. sides of the border compose one region, and we must address health care problems throughout that region. That?s why I am also excited that Texas Secretary of State Henry Cuellar is working on an initiative that could extend the benefits of telemedicine to individuals living on the Mexican side of the border.”

    Rick Perry 2001

    Goog luck trying to attack RomneyCare.

    • runner12

      This never went anywhere. There are problems with Perry and he is not a perfect candidate. But he may be the best we have in the field that can beat Obama.

      I might also add that the quote above was early in his career as Governor. He has shifted more to the right over the years, where as Romney has shifted left, right, left, then back right again.

      • silentcal2012

        If Perry had the same legislature Romney did, it probably would have went somewhere. I suspect it was a non-starter in the legislature.

        Whatever you say about Romney plan, it was legal, desired by the people of Massachusetts and in the proper context of federalism.

        Perry’s plan is just a dumb, illegal pile of horse manure.

        • izoneguy


          Mitt, Apologize For Romneycare — Or Forget The Nomination


          Massachusetts Treasurer Blasts RomneyCare and, Equivalently, ObamaCare


          Romneycare is bankrupting Massachusetts ? Obamacare will bankrupt the country


          Romneycare Is Bankrupting Massachusetts ? A Lesson On The Dangers Of Obamacare


          RomneyCare: Does It Work?

          In 2010, Massachusetts State Treasurer Timothy P. Cahill, an independent candidate for governor, offered a wide-ranging and scathing criticism of the state?s universal health care law (RomneyCare). ? It is bankrupting Massachusetts and will do the same nationally, if a similar plan is passed in Congress.?

          I predicted this result when the RomneyCare was passed in 2006. Mitt Romney can deny the results of his plan all he wants. The results are the results and it is his plan. It was an ill-conceived plan. His plan was the model for Obamacare. The media forgets that the (CMS director) Dr. Don Berwick and his untested ?idealism? was the architect of both plans.

          • silentcal2012

            The stupidest idea of them all.

          • gekster

            It was to help the stop of diseases that can be spread both ways across the border.
            Something that would benefit both countries.
            But you didn’t see it that way, did you.

            And like I said below, it is 10 years old, and went nowhere.

          • silentcal2012

            Given at the same time Romney passed romneycare, ten years ago. The whole thing is a soppy compassionate conservative suck-up to Mexico.

          • gekster

            And it hit on key points about co-operation with Mexico.
            And did not imply in any way to let Mexicans come flooding across the border, if that is going to be your next post.

            Like I said, tell us who you do like and why.
            Or are you only good at being a tribble.

          • silentcal2012

            “President Fox?s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it.”

            Sounds pretty bad to me.

          • gekster

            But Canada respects and obeys our immigration laws.
            Would that be one of the obstcles he was talking about.
            That an open border would be desireable if they would respect and obey our immigration laws.

            You want to cherry pick something else.

          • snowshooze

            I was moving back from a 5 year stint in Oregon.
            And it was Exxon Valdez time. So I figured there was enough money flying around that I would do ok, and I knew I was done with the big city rat race anyway..
            So I threw all my junk in the back of my ’65 Chevy 1/2 ton and blazed for home.
            When I got to the border… I got the third degree.
            They freaked out when they saw the mini-14 with the 30 round clips… had the measuring tape on the barrel, everything. You would think they never saw one before.
            And they found some papers… cigarette papers.. and asked me about smoking dope… I figured acting dumb was better than explaining to them I was expirementing with making fuses.. for firecrackers and minor explosives for fun and general recreation…
            Yes, they are open. But they are quite careful.
            They made me unload the entire truck at the entrance side of the border. And as polite as they were about it, I knew that one single bad answer would prohibit me from entry and force me to take the ferry rather than making the drive.

          • gekster

            Like I said, with Canada we have mutual respect for our common border.
            I used to go back and forth across the Canadian border (from Michigan) alot before 9-11, and what you descibe is not uncommon.
            The one hassle I got after 9-11 and not so much anymore.

            With Mexico, I don’t think I need to explain the lack of respect that Mexico shows our border.
            La Raza anyone?

        • gekster

          tell us who you do like and tell us why you support them.

          And the speach that you site is 10 years old.
          The plan was not all that bad if you look at the reasons for it and what it would do.
          And as I understand, it never got off the ground, and wasn’t brought up again.

          So instead of trying to bring down Perry,
          why don’t you spend your energy promoting someone you do like.

  • Doc Holliday

    this should be cut to 16 reasons. Aggie Yell leaders gay? lol, whoever even feels the need to defend that one obviously knows nothing about Texas A&M and Yell leaders. You mine as well say Green Berets are not really gay, the beret is “tradition”.

    And pointing out that Perry is really “anti-gay” doesn’t help us really that much with the naysayers, it will motivate them.

  • http://www.imperfectamerica.com imperfectamerica

    One wonders if the staff on the NYT, MSNBC or CBS will do this kind of research before they report on Perry… I wouldn’t hold my breath…

    • izoneguy

      Will they use it???

      *Posted by permission of garnet92 ?Pesky Truth?.

      Seventeen (17) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry

      Was also posted on HotAir and is going viral with links on Twitter.

      The MSM will be behind the eight ball because voters will
      be able to get their own info without it being filtered
      through a liberal claptrap source.

  • keysconservative

    When Obama was running for Pres there were at least 17 crucial questions that needed to be answered but NO ONE on the left felt compelled to address them in such a thoughtful and thorough manner as you have here regarding Perry? Those many questions remain unanswered three years later.

  • cwfoster

    s a Texan who left the state in 1992 when I enlisted in the Navy, I was concerned about some of what I had read about Perry. As you say there are a few things I don’t care for in his record, but it’s not what the smear campaigners make it out to be. I confess to a bit of ‘reverse bias’ to Texas politicians. I remember the Democrat-turned Republican Phil Gramm running for President and he always wore those round lensed glasses and that narrow brimmed Stetson, and all I could think of was “Oh my GOD, he looks like a pudgy LBJ!” At Least Perry doesn’t look like Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton! I’m sure Senator Gramm didn’t deserve my thoughts (I HOPE he didn’t), but he didn’t help himself by adopting the same style of dress and eyewear.

  • Change Jar Conservative

    This is probably the main thing that keeps me from being 100% committed to Perry.

    That and the possibility that Ryan might still get in.

    • acat

      That the student has to have graduated from a TX high school?
      That the student has to provably have lived in TX for 3 years?
      That the student has to get in on his/her own merits?
      That the student has to become “documented” ?

      I agree that it has a dollar cost – from what I’ve seen the In-State tuition break is about 2/3 – but.. based on the above, we’re turning the cream of this particular crop into people on the path to citizenship, and stealing a talking point from the Dems along the way.

      Mew

      • izoneguy

        The student has to pay their way.

        The amount of students that actually qualify is under 1% of all
        students enrolled in college.

        If they were not allowed in this program then that would
        probably mean more cutbacks in higher learning budgets.

        And Paul Ryan has said NO……
        The reports coming out were this morning and an hour
        later the Ryan camp has said NO.

        • teacher35

          Any ONE issue that is questionable ought to raise a red flag on this guy!

          And no republicans are not ‘for’ the rich, they are for making everyone ‘rich’ if that means prosperous.

  • Toby Calvert-Lee

    N/t

  • izoneguy
    • teacher35

      The guy is an embarrassment because his current rhetoric doesn’t match his past record.

  • izoneguy
  • izoneguy

    A cabinet minister in Egypt, aware of the common ground shared by Muslims and Latter-day Saints, once remarked to President Howard W. Hunter of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles that “if a bridge is ever built between Christianity and Islam it must be built by the Mormon Church.”


    A Latter-day Saint Perspective on Muhammad


    Muslims and Mormons

  • teacher35

    Wow this guy makes a lot of excuses for Perry! For example, the Gardisil issue was resolved but who in their right mind that is supposedly ‘tea party’ would sign an exec order to mandate it for all teenaged girls IN THE FIRST PLACE? That alone is telling… not to mention ranting about sovereignty but having been a huge player in the TTC issue. Sorry but this guy’s Elmer Gantry shtick isn’t going over big with most thinking people…. and his parroting of tea party issues hasn’t made him popular with the tea party either in Texas or elsewhere. He’s a FAKE plain and simple.

    • californiagold

      Using your logic, Romney must be a fake too.

      • teacher35

        Yes Romney is a fake.. having held more positions than a Twister player.

        HOnestly, is this the best we can do?

        Romney is no tea party candidate either… and many conservative groups on his home turf in NH/MASS are working to stop him.

        • runner12

          Just curious.

          • rkcon

            I think both Romney and Perry have extremely high levels of fakeness. I find it hilarious how fanboys of both try to deny the obvious.

            I’m not supporting anyone for the time being. Hopefully someone more authentic and accomplished will enter the race later on.

          • gekster

            what makes him a fake.

          • rkcon

            is so different from the way he governs.

            He loudly rejected the stimulus in 2009, but in 2010 relied on the $6 billion in federal stimulus to balance the budget.

            No wonder that under him Texas has become “?an aggressive scavenger of federal grant dollars”:
            http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/is-rick-perry-really-for-limited-government/

            Of course, his fanboys will downplay his opportunistic flip-flopping as “he was wrong and I’m glad he admitted it”. Just as Romney fanboys will do the same for their guy.

            They’re still both fake anyway. I mean, did any of them vote for Reagan?

          • PGDeFreese

            That’s what these type of duplicitous comments seem to add up to me; a one-day-wonder anti-Perry sock puppet and sidekick clone.

        • californiagold

          Are you a Ron Paul guy ?

    • gekster

      Take a couple of swings at Perry, then go sit in the corner with your friends on the left side of the room.

      • runner12

        He has called Scope a RINO on a separate post, tries to sound what he thinks is Tea Party here, and then claimed that the Tea Party vs. Establishment was made up by liberals.

        Quite a bit of inconsistent and odd positions. Makes you wonder…..

        • gekster

          ntntntntntnt

    • steebo77

      Someone posted a link to my blog (pa4palin.blogspot.com), citing the numbers in an article I wrote discussing the debt/liabilities record of each governor in the Republican field. The author of “Pesky Truth” tried to cast aspersions on my data, saying that no sources were provided. However, I list sources very clearly at the bottom of my post (http://pa4palin.blogspot.com/2011/08/palins-record-on-debt-and-liabilities.html) with links to the Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports (CAFRs) of the various states discussed. I called attention to my sources in a comment I posted on his blog. However, he quickly deleted this comment and then proceeded to feign outrage when I said that he doubted my numbers and analysis (which he clearly did). “Pesky Truth” and its author have no credibility in my book because they have demonstrated a willful disregard for the factual data and a penchant for suppressing the truth.

      • gekster

        Just what lends credence to your claim.
        How do we know it is not you who are stretching trhings a bit.

      • izoneguy

        And if you have a problem with “Pesky Truth” – take it back over there.
        He was gracious enough to let us post the article here.

        Population of Alaska – About 700,000
        Population of Texas – About 25,000,000

        I live in Plano, TX – Population about 300,000
        So we have about 1/2 the population of Alaska
        in about 240 sq miles….
        And someone told me during the day that when everyone comes
        to work in Plano we can easily have 750,000 people here – easily
        the size of Alaska’s entire population.

        And remember – the democrats controlled most of the Texas
        legislature until 2010. Perry fought them tooth and nail on budgets.
        This year the democrats were pushing for more spending to
        make the budget even larger. With Perry and a Republican controlled
        legislature, they pushed back and with hard choices and real spending
        cuts he balanced the budget,

        And let’s remember that Obama has done everything backwards to
        get us back into a recession. He has made it much worse.
        And Obama fights with Texas and pushes the EPA to punish what
        success we have been able to garner.

        And for all you Palin supporters. This is not Sarah’s year.
        She cannot beat Obama. Let Perry run interference and tear
        down the feds so that Sarah can run in 2020. She will only be 56.

    • Scope

      that a teacher would be against Perry, as he just cut public school funding by a large amount. As we know, you can throw all the money in the world at education and schools, and it doesn’t make the first bit of difference. When teachers start teaching, even just the basics of math and english and valid science again, rather than propagandizing their students, it may improve, but money isn’t going to make it happen.

  • Scope

    which would be the liberals, and they aren’t your grandfathers civil Democrats any longer. That’s a given.

    He also has the Ron Paul supporters who are acting just as badly as the liberals, and have adopted the Alinsky rules in their ridicule rhetoric. They are terribly desperate because they know that if their guy doesn’t win this presidential election, at 79 years old, he will never have another shot. It’s common for candidates to go after one another, but they are over the top. Ron Paul’s latest add doesn’t only go after Obama (a rare event for Paul) but he attacks the Republicans as well. Running as a Republican himself, he claims the Democrats and the Republicans are both as bad as each other, which I guess includes himself. He might want to consider a different, and more well thought out ad writer.

    Perry has the trial lawyers against him, because of the passage of tort reform, and loser pays laws in Texas. I would imagine trial lawyers every where will be opposed to him because legal reform is one of Perry’s policies for the country as president. It couldn’t come a day too soon.

    Perry has every greenie, environmentalist, and tree hugger against him, because he believes in the least amount of, and only necessary regulation, in order to grow jobs and the number of businesses that can open, and survive and thrive in a dependable and predictable atmosphere. Perry has brought at least 5 lawsuits against the EPA, and I would guess that that would be the first department to shrink, or disappear in a Perry presidency.

    Perry has the whole Bushie contingency against him, because he had the nerve to say that Bush was not a conservative, and that he never was a fiscal conservative even as Texas Governor. Rove, predictably has his panties in a bunch, as well as all of the other elite old guard Republicans. He won’t dance to their tune, because he has a healthy skepticism about inside the beltway shennanigans, which helped to bring us the first socialist president. Rove and his crew just can’t seem to learn that when you keep doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different outcome… describes them to a T.

    And, of course Perry, like all of the other candidates, will each be doing all of the opposition research they can against their opponents. It would be great if they attacked policies and past records, and stayed away from the politics of personal destruction, but, I know that is a dream.

  • victoria_29

    Just an FYI unlike Chris Christie, Gov Perry has NEVER appointed a Muslim Judge, he has not in fact appointed any Muslim out of all if his very significant appointments over the past 10 years to any significant state position (in fact I couldn’t even find the instance of a minor appt to a board somewhere). That should lay to rest this BS Muslim stuff. He is the Governor of Texas-under both the Tx Consittution & US Constitution he is the Governor of all residents of the state not just the ones that you might approve until they do something wrong.

  • izoneguy

    Rick Perry alleged “porn” problem – Movie Gallery, Inc. was not a “porn” distributor

    No mention of ****. Ever looked at what you can buy in a video store? They usually have an adult section. Woohoo. Books stores have dirty books too. Don’t invest In BAM, Amazon.com, Barnes and Noble or any of those filthy dirty stores. Good grief.
    He invested 10k in the second largest movie rental company in the US at the time. Good investment. At least I now know what happened to the Game Crazy store in Muscle Shoals.

    I bet BlockBuster has those dirty films too.

    Founded in Alabama. Good for them.

    Movie Gallery, Inc. (former NASDAQ ticker symbol MOVI[1]) was the second largest movie and game rental company in the United States, behind Blockbuster Video. The company rented and sold Blu-ray Discs, DVDs, VHS tapes, and video games. Founded in Dothan, Alabama, the company was headquartered in Dothan, and later in Wilsonville, Oregon.
    On April 30, 2010, Movie Gallery announced it was closing and liquidating all of its stores per a filing of Chapter 7 bankruptcy.[2][3] At its peak the firm had about 4,700 stores in North America, operating mainly under the Movie Gallery, Hollywood Video, and Game Crazy brands. The last of the company’s stores were closed in August 2010.
    Most regular Movie Gallery locations were located in rural areas,[4][5] while Hollywood Video locations, which competed directly with Blockbuster Video, were located in urban areas.

    Now if you google “MGI Porn” you get some links to “mgi”
    MGI and Movie Gallery, Inc. are two separate things.
    Good try lefties.

  • izoneguy

    The Texas Jobs Panic
    Liberals try to discredit the Lone Star State’s economic success.

    As for the critics, well, one of their explanations is that Americans are moving to Texas because of the nice weather. The temperature in Fort Worth this week reached 108 degrees.

    Hotter than hell and free as a bird…..

    Mr. Perry’s Texas record is far from perfect, as Charles Dameron recently showed on these pages with his reporting on the Governor’s politicized venture-capital fund. But the larger story is that Mr. Perry inherited a well-functioning economy and has managed it well, mainly by avoiding the kind of policy disruptions that his liberal critics favor in the name of this or that social or political goal. This achievement may not earn a Nobel prize in economics, but it does help explain why Texas is outperforming the nation.

    Suck on that Paul Krugman.

  • izoneguy

    Michelle Malkin v. Rick Perry

    Malkin laughed off Trevi?o?s last tweet, writing: [Trevi?o] has ? proclaimed me ?fringe.? Curtains for me!?

    Trevi?o then responded, writing: ?Sorry, but if you?re charging RICK PERRY with being an Obamaesque, Latino-racialist, Islamist-friendly non-conservative ?. you?re nuts.?

  • izoneguy

    Give Me Cowboy Values Over Washington Values Any Day

    I don?t know much about Rick Perry, but from what I have learned so far that sounds a lot like his early life in Paint Creek, Texas. He comes from the same background and has the same values as my cowboy and cowgirl friends up in Blackfoot, Idaho. Like most voters I want to learn more about him before I decide if he is the right man for the job.

    But from George Bush the Elder to Bill Clinton to George Bush the Younger to Barack Obama, the last four presidents were all Ivy League educated and certified members of the establishment that has gotten America into the bipartisan mess we find ourselves.

    Maybe it?s time for a graduate of a land grant university like Texas A&M and a real son of the soil to get us out of this mess.
    And someone who knows what it means to be a real cowboy.

  • jumpmaster13

    I found this article informative, and I see the governor in a bit of a better light now, but I really don’t think it addresses the full depth and breadth of my biggest issue with Governor Perry: the illegal immigration problem. He just seems squishy on illegals, and uses various smoke-screen politic-speak statements to cover his unwillingness to take a firm stand. It’s easy to say “we need to enforce the current laws” … but why does he think STOPPING the problem with a fence/wall is idiocy? I want to find a strong constitutional conservative to head the ship of state — but this one issue makes me wonder if he’s just another Bush-style Republican (at least on the illegal issue).

  • californiagold

    I don’t think Perry will be able to defend (or change) his moderate views on illegal immigration. And as a result, Bachmann might have an opening to run to the right of him on this issue. Perry is on record for opposing a wall, and Perry drew praise from Texas democrats for his ability to compromise on the issue of illegal immigration.

    • izoneguy

      When it comes to immigration – Obama now officially has no immigration policy. Or I guess you could say he has one – Let them all stay with no penalities. Except those bad ones – yeah we will get right on deporting the bad ones yeah that’s it.

      How can you crack down on immigration in your state if the federal government is suing you everytime you try something?

      Texas spent an additional $110 Million of Texas taxpayers funds in 2010 to patrol and police the border. Perry has been criticized by the Feds for these efforts.

      Perry keeps promises on border security, trafficking

      Rick Perry Challenges Obama Over Border Security Assurances: ?Maybe He Was Talking About The Canadian Border?

      Bachmann is all talk – she has not had to really deal with the issue. Unless there is some kind of incursion of Canadians into Minnesota I have not heard of?

      • californiagold

        All politicians talk a good game, but the question that has yet to be answered about Perry is why does he oppose a wall at the border ? And why did he supposedly support the Dream Act ?

        This video shows Perry being praised by democrats regarding his moderate immigration policy in Texas.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRQaLdjtWkA

        • izoneguy

          N/T

      • avagreen

        Regarding the fence, Perry’s comment:
        “”The fact is, it’s 1,200 miles from Brownsville to El Paso. Two things: How long you think it would take to build that? And then if you build a 30-foot wall from El Paso to Brownsville, the 35-foot ladder business gets real good.”

        Also, the Rio Grande is the main border between Mexico and Texas…..where do you build a fence when The Rio Grande is constantly moving, changing and forming new channels. This movement obscures the exact boarder and makes it difficult to define.
        So, it’s built in the middle? LOL!

        Additionally, part of the Rio runs through the canyons of the Big Bend National Park…..can’t build a fence on mountains or canyons. Can you imagine the expense?

        Better to use that $$ for the boots on the ground as Perry suggests. Gosh! How silly listening to the governor of the state who knows his state and border than anyone outside the state.. I’ve heard a suggestion about a week ago of forming a special military force to place on the border to combat the drug cartels, which I think is going to be the only eventual solution. They are taking over our cities.

        Perry is up on this subject,and the sooner people OUTSIDE of our state gets this through their heads instead of some pie-in-the-sky ideological thinking about the issue, the faster/better the solution will be reached.

        (not saying that this pertains to you, though)

        • Scope

          here a few days ago. No response from the Perry detractors. If you don’t like Perry, you don’t like Perry, and there really isn’t much you can do to change their one track minds. Literally, there are some that just refuse to face reality. Also, how about all those screaming about the eminent domain issue with respect to the TTC. They have no problem with thousands of miles being taken by eminent domain with the border though, even if it was possible.

          • defenseconservative

            is unrealistic for the reasons you and others stated here a few days ago. That is true.

  • jonnymadison

    especially the al gore part, that had been bugging me. shows you should always hear both sides i guess.

  • izoneguy

    California?s Gardasil mandate moves forward

    California Democratic Assemblywoman Toni Atkins, that the legislation had been voted out of the state Senate Appropriations Committee by 6-3. There were no witnesses or testimony at the hearing. The bill, AB 499, had previously been suspended over cost concerns. Now, it is expected to head quickly to the Senate floor for a full vote this week and supporters believe Democratic California Gov. Jerry Brown will sign it.

    A previous push to require all California girls entering sixth grade to be vaccinated with the HPV Vaccine was withdrawn from the state legislature in 2007. The current bill would circumvent the state?s parental consent laws and ?allow a minor who is 12 years of age or older to consent to medical care related to the prevention of a sexually transmitted disease.?

    Let’s put this in perspective. Perry did mandate Gardasil. The will of the people prevailed and it was killed. In California it looks like Gardasil will be mandated. Do you think liberals in California will object?

    Remember all the hue & cry about ObamaCare? The democrats still forced that down our throats. ObamaCare is far worse then anyone imagined.

    So in California the democrats will soon be giving out Gardasil shots at taxpayer expense. Does this prove that Rick Perry is really a liberal democrat?
    No, it proves that it matters what state you live in and that elections really do matter.

    • westcoastpatriette

      Contrary to the current blueness of the state of Cali–we are not all brain-dead lefties out here so don’t be so quick to assume mandated Gardasil is a done deal. As usual, the sleazy libs are trying to sneak this through before any of us know what they’re up to.

      When word gets out–it will probably be overwhelmingly rejected here just as it was in Texas–before Brown has a chance to sign it into law.

      • izoneguy

        rise up like they did in Texas? Plus the Texas legislature pushed back hard.
        Are their enough Republicans in the Cali legislature to push back?
        This should be interesting.

        • westcoastpatriette

          and they are pushing through as much junk as they can hoping we won’t notice. Honestly, I did not even know or hear about Gardasil until you brought it up so I sure hope there is enough push-back here to stop the madness. Every now and then Gov. Brown even knows when he is going too far. But for the most part the Dems just don’t give a damn what the rest of want, think or feel.

          Our main hope right now is the Tea Party that is rising up here. I hope there is enough rage to flip the state red in 2012.

          • izoneguy

            And remember all the Jerry Brown for Gov spots being paid for by the unions.

            What will they do when they run out of other peoples money?

            This is why the libs are in panic mode about Perry.
            Perry won’t bail-out the blue states.
            Obama won’t be able to funnel much money to them
            with a Republican congress.

            They are between Barack & a hard place.

            Rick Perry coming up on Hannity…..

          • acat

            My guess is that California is going to continue pushing producers out .. and that only helps hasten the coming crash. Who knows, maybe Brown is trying to get it done before Obama leaves office?

            Perry is in for a tough fight – one that would be almost impossible without the internet to refute the lies. Should he win the nomination, every GOPer is going to have to be able to answer to the 18 points above.

            Of course, the same is true if Mitt Romney or Michele Bachmann wins.

            Mew

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            Most prices are “reasonably” stable. Of course there’s not much in the way of real demand. Do not, however, read anything positive into that comment. There is still probably at least five years supply and it is exceedingly difficult to actually qualify as a buyer for a mortgage.

            Residential real estate is an absolute disaster and it won’t be improving any time soon. I’m guessing we’re in for “more of the same” for at least 3-5 years after Obama leaves office.

          • westcoastpatriette

            The banks are preventing the inevitable by propping up mortgages in default. In the area I live, (So. Cal.) fifty percent of homes are under water and the banks are trying everything they can to save or prevent their losses hoping things will turn around soon. That includes letting people stay in the homes after they have stopped making payments. Needless to say, it is an utter nightmare here and I am stuck for the time being.

            It is soooo depressing for me because Cali used to be relatively red, highly competitive, great schools and business climate. Now we are the laughing stock of the nation. Pray for me, please.

  • acat

    the ninteenth “scandal”, please?

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/03/perry-campaign-doomed-by-college-football/

    To summarize, Perry was Governor of Texas when Texas A&M announced plans to leave the “Big 12″.

    Mew

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