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Political War And Leftist Polling=PPP Ohio

By: jamesm (Diary)  |  October 14th, 2012 at 10:56 PM  | 

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Americans need to realize that leftists have declared political war. Their desire is to “change” America. The battleground is now Ohio. Now Real Clear Polling (so called) is listing this Democratic leaning polling company as a legitimate pollster in the general election. As a disclaimer PPP is generally a decent pollster in the primaries. But in the general election, this pollster is highly partisan and creates the circumstances to show Obama is ahead and the implication that he will win..  These partisan pissant hacks are included  in the RCP average of polls. Not only is their poll corrupt-the Real Clear Politics average of polls is polluted with PPP, NBC and CNN polls. A calculated and deliberate liberal assault on truth. But I digress. From my colleagues at ACE of Spades HQ and Battleground Watch we see this  PPP poll carcase tossed around by conservatives.

ACE of Spades HQ: Knowing PPP would have something wacky, I decided to cut right down to the most absurd point highlighted by the firm: 19% of respondents have already voted and they are breaking 3-1 Obama. Article here

And from Battleground Watch.

  ”I don’t blog PPP polls because they are openly biased and not credible.” Read article here

Why is Real Clear Politics including this biased poll and adjusting it’s average based on this nonsense?  Wouldn’t a biased poll clearly distort the average? Of course! Leftists are desperate to bring Obama over the line.  We should heed this warning from Battlegroundwatch.com.

Watch Out for Phony Early Vote Numbers in Ohio

 

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  • retrocon87

    I admire your effort for still trying to make sense out of all this stuff but I tend to agree with this article about polling and think it’s pretty spot-on–

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_day_polling_died_avC02WOQrbvvohrTLZwgAI

    The polls this weekend were saying Obama was up by 5 in Ohio (the PPP poll) but then also up by 2 in Arizona (which is absolutely insane) and then only up by 4 in Minnesota (which I also think is insane) so I do not trust the polls at all anymore except for Rasmussen and I’m not even totally sure I trust that one anymore. At this point my visceral feeling is that Mitt is safe in NC, VA, and FL, but it will pretty obviously come down to Ohio… Whether he’s down by 5 there or up by 1, it’s effectively a tie and even Rasmussen is saying it’s essentially a tie at this point. If he doesn’t win there he’ll have to win CO and IA (extremely possible) and NV (definitely possible but less likely) at which point it would be a 269-269 electoral college tie which would be good enough since we control the House. (You can disagree with me on this, but if he loses Ohio I personally don’t see how he wins Wisconsin… it would have to be CO, IA, NV). This could all easily go either way and we should be under no illusions that PPP being on crack means we’re going to walk away with this easily (because sorry, but I happen to think Dick Morris is on crack too). Intrade has it 60-40 Obama right now and I think that’s about right given the map and the limited number of paths Mitt has to 270, but if he can land two more solid debates and Republican turnout is high (which it will be) we can pull it off.

    • jamesm

      I agree with your assessment that Va, Fl and NC are safe Romney. Ohio seems a true toss up. Thanks for the article. I agree with the article that
      “Real Clear Politics “poll of polls” — makes little sense” This is a tight election and PPP seems to trying to influence public opinion instead of polling public opinion. Is there such thing as a “herd mentality” that undecided voters will want to vote for the side that is going to win? Unfortunately some voters will jump on the bandwagon. This appears to be one of the goals of the media pollsters and some organizations like PPP. Discourage Ohio voters from voting for Romney because Obama has this state in the bag. Seems like a enormous shooting gallery of attempted opinion making polling this election season. Time to reload. I never have seen so much left wing digital polling garbage. The lengths that some people will go to get Obama over the line. Time to break their crack pipe. Just a few more weeks.

    • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

      Well, data is the plural of anecdote and there is way too much anecdotal evidence bucking the polling of Romney down. Real counts of absentee ballots show Republicans doing better than even in 2004; that’s real data , not a tiny subsample of poll ( you DO realize that the PPP numbers are based on something like 80 people or so, the margin of error on that is huge and its ripe for bias).

      That said, nothing’s over, but if the election were today Romney would win it and not by a hair.

      Latest ABC poll has Obama up 3 pts. It’s a D +9 poll. more pure polling BS, its flying thick and fast. They will try another week of bogus biased polling to show ‘new momentum’ for obama before getting honest at the end.

  • http://www.justintribble.com Justin Tribble

    I just read the Politico article touting the PPP poll and the numbers showing a 3-1 edge in early voting for Obama. Now I’m glad to see it’s been countered here.

    Without Ohio, Romney needs NV and IA … that’s it (assuming he wins FL, VA, NC, CO, AZ, MO, which I consider very likely even with losing Ohio). NV is the least likely state for him to win without Ohio.

    With Ohio, he wins.

    I live in Nevada — I can report I think Shelley Berkeley the Democrat will lose the Senate race due to incredibly effective negative campaign ads against her. Steve Wynn has come out hard against Obama. The “don’t spend money in Vegas” ad against Obama has to be effective.

    • jamesm

      Also heard Governors Sandoval and Martinez were going to campaign in Nevada for Romney in the upcoming days. Heller seems in good position.

  • hoosierdad

    Another reason the PPP Ohio poll is junk, besides its partisan basis, is that most of the polling was conducted on Saturday. There is already evidence that very few people respond to polling phone calls already, but on college football Saturdays, I believe that makes the margin of error even larger.

  • Dave_A

    To be fair to RealClear, they know PPP is biased and mark them as such in their list of input polls (eg, they are listed as ‘PPP (D)’)…

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    I would encourage everyone to read this article by Jay Cost.
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/morning-jay-politics-and-gallup-poll_654143.html?page=2
    I like the tag line for anyone who doubts…“Final point: We absolutely, positively must remember polling in 2012 is politicized as never before, and it is incumbent upon the consumers of political polls not to accept the data naïvely, but to perform due diligence to see what goes into the product.”
    Cost is absolutely correct.

  • TravisMonitor

    Another bogus D +9 poll out there by WashPost/ABC shows Obama ‘ahead’ by 3 pts in the alternative universere where Ds will outvote Rs by 9 pts, but the internals have Romney up double digits with independents again.

    More bogus polls can be expected this week to show some sort of Obama ‘rebound’ or try to prove something like the ‘mo is shifting, when it hasnt. Romney is winning, and it wont even be close IMHO. This is shaping up to be a 5-6 pt win for Team R+R.

    • jamesm

      D++ . D plus plus might be a good moniker for these bogus media polls :)