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Russia’s history of aiding and abetting the rogue regime in Teheran shows its desire for conflict with the West

Ross Douthat at The Atlantic posits that our current obligations in the War on Terror should at very least cause policymakers and military authorities to think very carefully before wading into the Russo-Georgian conflict in any meaningful way.

One side effect of entering into a “proxy war with Russia,” says Douthat, is that we would run the risk of the Bear “mak[ing] things harder for us where Tehran’s quest for nukes is concerned.”

With all respect to Mr. Douthat, it would be very difficult for Russia to be even less helpful to us vis-à-vis Iran — or to be more helpful to the Persian state — than they are already being, with regard both to the nuclear situation and to Iran’s conventional buildup.

In fact, moving to counter Russia’s latest attempt to expand its sphere of influence and dominion once again would not ignite a new conflict, but would demostrate our acknowledgment of Russia’s proxy efforts to work against the U.S. worldwide, which have been ongoing for years, including in the Middle East.

More detail below the fold.

Russia has been providing conventional and unconventional assistance to Teheran for years, including undertaking the construction of the light-water reactor in Bushehr (and, despite officially announcing it would do no more, offering under the table to build four more reactors) and providing nuclear fuel to the Iranians.

Russia has given cover to the Iranian regime in its battles with the IAEA, as well, in 2005 refusing to vote on resolutions finding Teheran to be in a state of “non-compliance due to “many failures and breaches” over nuclear safeguards” and abstaining from voting to refer the Iranian regime to the UNSC (they voted in favor in 2006, but had the languaged changed to reflect the action as being a simple report to the UNSC, rather than a referral for action). Russia has continued, throughout the diplomatic farce surrounding the Iranian nuclear program, to offer assistance to the Persians on uranium enrichment and conversion.

Russia has given Iran assistance and technology in the Shahab-2 and Shahab-3 missile programs, which Russia and North Korea provided together (the Shahab was largely based on theDPRK’s Nodong missile; further, the Shahab-3 was tested for upgrade as recently as 2005, when a solid-fuel motor was experimentally added). In April 2005, it was reported that Iran had acquired at least some number of the Russian nuclear capable 3000km range strategic air-launched cruise missile known as the KH-55 Granat. Further, as recently as 2000 the CIA reported that “Russian entities remain a significant source of biotechnology and chemicals for Iran” — in other words, Russia has helped Iran maintain at least some semblance of a Chem/Bio stockpile (though there is no international knowledge whatsoever about Iran’s biological program, if indeed it has one).

Last year, Russian officials peddled talking points about an impending American attack on Iran to take place in early April 2007, preparations for which “Russian intelligence” said were “nearly completed,” and bragged that the Russian-made air defenses employed by Iran were “strong enough” to “tackle U.S. combat aircraft.”

America’s 2003 invasion of Iraq, another country sporting Russian-made air defense equipment, demonstrated the U.S.’s superiority to the Bear’s equipment (we lost nearly as many aircraft to our own Patriot missile batteries as we did to enemy fire). Russia has now moved to shore up the weaknesses in Iran’s air defenses, agreeing in December of last year to provide an even more modern and sophisticated strategic air defense system, the S-300PMU1, to the Persians — a move that “could portend a shift in the air-defense environment across the region.”

All this to say, Russia has continued to aid and abet in myriad ways the rogue regime in Teheran, which has been and continues to be actively waging a low-intensity war against the U.S. in Iraq and which is actively in pursuit of weaponized nuclear technology despite all of the diplomacy in the non-Russian-and-Chinese world being waged against it.

Now, it is true that in Afghanistan, Russia is one of three nations that have agreed to allow us to transport materiél overland into the theater of operations (thereby bypassing the growing problem of Pakistan, which has now become the true central focus of Islamist terror and of our war on such). This agreement, though, is not in the least a result of a desire on the part of the Russians to cooperate with the U.S. on anything; rather, it comes in large part as a result of the resurgence of the Taliban, and the growing problem of Islamist extremism in Russia proper and her outlying “territories”; in other words, they see value in helping us prosecute that central GWOT front, and are unlikely to change their minds on that simply because we refuse to allow them to invade an ally unmolested.

As Max Boot wrote in Commentary:

It is…important to give Georgia the wherewithal to defend itself. It has a small but capable military which has received lots of American training and equipment in recent years (and has paid us back by sending a sizable contingent to Iraq). But it may not have two key weapons that would enable it to wreak havoc on the Russian advance. I am thinking of the Stinger and the Javelin. Both are relatively small, inexpensive, handheld missiles. The former is designed for attacking aircraft, the latter for attacking armored vehicles. The Stinger, as we know, has already been used with devastating effectiveness against the Russian air force once before-in Afghanistan. The Javelin is newer, and the Russians haven’t yet seen its abilities demonstrated. But there is little doubt that it could do a great deal to bog down the Russians as their vehicles advance down narrow mountain roads into Georgia.

If Russia doesn’t call off its offensive right away, the Pentagon should rush deliveries of Javelins and Stingers to Georgia. If the Russians insist on committing acts of aggression, at least let their victims defend themselves properly-and make the Russians pay the kind of price they paid once before in Afghanistan. As we’ve learned recently, with Iran supporting anti-American attacks in Iraq, proxy warfare is a fiendishly powerful way of fighting. If it is used against us, it should also be used by us.

Stingers and Javelins are a great start in Georgia. I don’t advocate an invasion or actual shooting war between the U.S. and Russia — we shouldn’t be sending CAS aircraft or ground troops (outside, perhaps, a solid SOF or OGA contingent), but simply helping our ally to defend itself is neither an act of war on our part, nor a legitimate provocation to the emaciated Bear that is trying so hard to awake itself and its millions of imperialistically/nationalistically-motivated citizens to conquest once again.

COMMENTS

  • liberalrepublican

    “it would be very difficult for Russia to be even less helpful to us vis-?-vis Iran — or to be more helpful to the Persian state — than they are already being, with regard both to the nuclear situation and to Iran’s conventional buildup”

    This seems to be the crux of your argument – since Russia has been difficult, there is no danger of them being worse.

    What if they sold some nukes to Iran tomorrow? Wouldn’t that be far, far worse than anything they have done so far?

    In my opinion, we will be very careful here. A lot talk but very little action.

  • gamecock

    has DIRECTLY waged war against us in Iraq with Quds forces in theatre?

  • jonlester

    You’ll recall the characters in the 1980′s TV show were accused of robbing a bank in Vietnam.

    The Sun (UK) has surveillance video of a handful of Russian soldiers robbing a Georgian bank.

    • NightTwister

      Talking has worked out very well so far…

  • coffee260

    Lets say there was this 2000 year old history book. And in it reads, basically, that Iran and Russia will one day form an strategic alliance and eventually strike another tiny country among others. But for some 2000 years there wasn’t a scenario to be envisioned of such an alliance. And all of the sudden these two country, with similar interests, form said alliance. What do you do? What-Do-You-Do?

    • NightTwister

      -nt-

      • jonlester

        but, thankfully, the many centuries of the ebb and flow in Russia’s relationship with the Persians has never been based on trust.

        This link won’t answer the question but it offers a good start, perhaps:

        http://ajournalistfromiran.blogspot.com/2006/03/history-of-iran-and-russias.html

        • streiff

          look a discussion of Biblical prophecy is appropriate in some settings. But not a political website.

          • gamecock

            don’t aid and abet, they wage war, but

            I just noticed it was Russia as the topic!

            my bad

            tired

          • coffee260

            Let me rephrase my question. What would the geopolitical strategy be, relying specifically on historic documents that predict the alignment of two sovereign states such as Iran and Russia, that was not foreseen to join in such an bilateral agreement?

            And who mentioned the Bible? Not me.

  • jonlester

    Both sides accumulated complete database histories of terroristic tactics and the KGB probably had the larger case history of applied state-sponsored acts of terrorism. Polarized proxy fights would invite new instability and defeat the purpose of ending violent extremism worldwide.

  • pilgrim

    The President of Russia did make a recent state visit to Iran, and the last time this happened was Stalin in the late ’40s.

    Instead of thinking military options to address a very troublesome partnership beginning to blossom between Iran and Russia maybe we should look to the market as a remedy. Iran and Russia are major competitors as global suppliers of natural gas. I would like to see the market play one monster seller against the other.

    If Iran and Russia are fighting each other in the natural gas market, then it’s a good thing for the world.

    • Jeff_Emanuel

      …resources. Iran can’t do it itself, so foreigners — like Russia — drill and refine, then sell the end product back to Iran, who is a net importer of gasoline despite its abundant resources.

      • Jeff_Emanuel

        Because I’ve read a lot of 2,000 year old books, and I don’t have a clue.

        • pilgrim

          I am not yet convinced that market forces could not come into play, and remember that Iran may not just want to play second fiddle to Russia. Everybody remembers the evil empire USSR, but Iran has their own interests in getting an empire again like before 1921.

          Even if it is tough and complicated anything the markets can do to put Russia and Iran against each other is a good thing.

          • pilgrim

            .

          • gamecock

            Bob Kerry as behind the scenes envoys to Tehran now to offer to build oil refineries for them!

            seriously

            Pil’, you raise great points, esp long term…

            more later

          • pilgrim

            .

  • jonlester

    • gamecock

      interest in investments in Texas to Montana hot air!

      • gamecock

        is mafia

        and too smart by half with his Olympics coup.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    I would normally agree Jeff, but given recent events and the Georgian preparedness my gut tells me that is an emotional decision. The Russians have advanced quickly and a large amount of hardware was abandoned and captured. There would have to be a much more mobile force strategy for the Georgians with that deployment and then perhaps I would agree. Maybe a few small units on the outskirts of Gori or Poti with some Stingers would provide pause, but then what? What if these fall into the hands of Islamic radicals that not too far away; or Iran? In that region of the world, temptation to trade one of those weapons for cold hard cash would be overwhelming. I had a Caucasian Ovcharka a few years ago. He was very loyal, fierce, never flinched and slept with his eyes open. But every once and awhile he would grab hold of you; not breaking the skin, just to let you know what he was capable of. That is the perfect metaphor for this region; trust me. As long as you are holding the leash things are fine. Let go and events become a little less certain.

    We do need to unequivocally support the Georgian people against this threat. Right now, the Russians look like a bunch of thugs circa 1968; not exactly what they want. So thus far, I believe we have gotten the response correct; albeit a little slow. Stand fast with the Georgians, pound the Russians on the world stage and reveal them for their despicable behavior. Provide aid, help restore a decent economy and continue training/equipping their army.

    We can?t count on the UN, especially since they help arrange this current invasion vis-?-vis support for Russia?s phony South Ossetia presence. Take advantage of that while moving observers into the areas Russia has devastated (heck HRW is already sticking it to them) and reveal the ignominy. Shame the ridiculous Europeans (sans France, who is trying to save face) into some type of action and keep signing alliances such as the recent Polish agreement. This is partially consistent with the current strategy which already irritates and frustrates the Russians.

    Iran is and will continue to be a problem irrespective of this current situation. As observed, Russia has obfuscated the political process while continuing to slowly arm them to a very dangerous level. This is truly the next issue our world has been kicking down the road. The Russians have done this purposely as a wedge against the West. My opinion; military action (Israeli or otherwise) is inevitable. This will not be resolved diplomatically unless there is internal strife in Iran. Given their history, that is a very remote possibility.

  • Section9

    Jeff, you said….

    Stingers and Javelins are a great start in Georgia. I don’t advocate an invasion or actual shooting war between the U.S. and Russia — we shouldn’t be sending CAS aircraft or ground troops (outside, perhaps, a solid SOF or OGA contingent), but simply helping our ally to defend itself is neither an act of war on our part, nor a legitimate provocation to the emaciated Bear that is trying so hard to awake itself and its millions of imperialistically/nationalistically-motivated citizens to conquest once again.

    Uh, Jeff, you don’t think that the STAVKA wouldn’t gleefully start arming the Talib and the al-Quds Force as a form of retaliation?

    Right now, I’m betting the Russians haven’t crossed that red line quite yet, if only because of the memories of Beslan. However, let us engage in the kind of stupidity that you advocate, and I can guarantee you that every bureaucracy with any skin in the game in Moscow and a grudge held over from the Afghan War will want to take revenge on our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Of course Russia is giving the Iranians aid and comfort. They wish to tie us down there while they grow stronger. This is basic chess. If the Iranians serve to distract the Americans while Russia rearms, so much the better.

    We can replace those Georgian arms that have been lost. But to upgrade Georgian arms with identifiable American weapons will force the Russians to do the same thing to us in Afghanistan. In fact, they would do so with gusto.

    If you don’t think that the Russians would retaliate by arming the Taliban, Hezboallah, or Islamic guerillas elsewhere, or perhaps even the M-19 in this hemisphere, then you haven’t quite thought this through.

    Despite their thuggishness, we can come to a modus vivendi with the Russians. There are points of agreement between the two powers. Arming the Georgians as you suggest and sending Special Forces would burn a lot of bridges that need not be burned.

    • jonlester

      Originally I was wanting to find the last scene from “A Piece of the Action” to illustrate how the Russians (and everyone else in the world) have mastered American contributions to the world’s culture and technology, from the Internet to the packaging of the news for TV, but when I found the “Fizzbin” clip, I decided that was the “quicker, easier-most vector,” as Yoda said it, to find a contemporary parallel.

      • Vegas_Rick

        Are Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and, yes, even the Taliban, manufacturing their own weaponry?

        • IJB

          This seems to be the crux of your argument – since Russia has been difficult, there is no danger of them being worse.

          What if they sold some nukes to Iran tomorrow?

          They do that, and it’s war.

          Actually selling nukes to Iran would be far worse than even the Cuban Missile Crisis.

          The Russians try that, and we’ll have no choice but to wipe them off the map.

          As a result, I think the Russians love their (dirty) money too much to do something that stupid.

          • liberalrepublican

            funny stuff

  • Marcus_Traianus

    The Georgian history with MANPAD’s is not very good. It took me awhile, but remember this

    Also, I would hate to see a mistake repeat of the 1993 Transair incident.

    • gamecock

      one of the greatest contributors to the good in human history but that Russia, as a government has not; that most governments have not, and that America is quite the exception over 5000 years in both spheres?

      or do I overstate?

      • jaszkowski

        You don’t wipe a country with thousands of nukes off the map.

        That is – alone.

        You attack Russia, we all get wiped off the map. This is not Iraq or some 3rd World nation that can’t hit back. This is a nation with ICBMs and strategic bombers.

        What is wrong with you people? MAD is still in operation.

        I read this stuff, but I honestly can’t fathom that I’m in the same party with people who actually believe we can ‘wipe’ Russia off the map or ship weapons to Georgia to kill Russian troops and not bear real, serious consequences.

        We got away with it in Afghanistan, but Georgia isn’t Afghanistan and this isn’t 1979. Russia has public opinion now, and the public is going to demand that the government take action to punish the Americans if we start killing their soldiers. And the government will listen. Smacking the Georgians in popular on the street in Russia, as will killing us if we get too far into this.

        • Octavian

          The insanity is for anyone continuing to defend Vladimir “Lilli” Putin and his Russian thugs.

          • itrytobenice

            Life is not the same since you and Nick Danger have drifted off into the lives of working stiffs with families.

          • Section9

            Moscow understands that the Iranians arm Hezboallah, the Palestinian Hamas, and the various Special Groups in Iran. Iran may have a hand in arming the Talib, but that may run against the long term interest that Iran has in a peaceful state along its eastern frontier.

            Moscow would have no problem arming the Talib directly were we to arm the Georgians and were they to start doing to the Red Army’s 58th Army what the Muj did to 40th Army during the Afghan War.

            There are better ways to make Moscow pay for its adventurism.

          • streiff

            that I am in the same party with people who are hiding under their bed and wetting themselves for fear of Russia.

            1. No one, not even the Russians, know if they have even one ICBM that works. There is no evidence they have a warhead reliability program in place and from the way I saw that they stored chemical weapons in East Germany — on pallets that hadn’t been moved in decades with puddles of persistent nerve agent on the ground from corroded warheads — it’s doubtful they are at a very high state of readiness.

            2. The idea that Russia is going to fire nukes over Georgia is simply stupid to the n-th degree.

            3. Before we get all heated up about Russian military power I’d review their performance in Chechnya.

            4. Russia public opinion is important to Russians. To others not so much.

            My gosh, how did we ever have the guts to win the Cold War with people like you around. I’d think you, of all people on the list, a guy who says he has relatives in Poland, could appreciate the utter folly of letting Russia reestablish a ring of client states.

          • streetwise

            crisis management strategy. Europe is full of runes that are associated with the practices of his philosophical ancestors.