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	<title>Comments on: Did President Obama Lie About Health Care in His non-SOTU Tuesday Night, or Are He and His Staff Just That Ignorant?</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Hibbert</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/02/26/did-president-obama-lie-about-health-care-in-his-non-sotu-tuesday-night-or-are-he-and-his-staff-just-that-ignorant/#comment-4217</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Hibbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concepts like:

1.05 million &#62; 815,000  are a bit too much for a liberal brain to comprehend.  

Giving him a percentage problem as well is just unfair!</description>
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<p>1.05 million &gt; 815,000  are a bit too much for a liberal brain to comprehend.  </p>
<p>Giving him a percentage problem as well is just unfair!</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/02/26/did-president-obama-lie-about-health-care-in-his-non-sotu-tuesday-night-or-are-he-and-his-staff-just-that-ignorant/#comment-4216</link>
		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: Did President Obama Lie About (fill in anything), or Are He and His Staff Just That Ignorant?
A: Most likely Yes to the first and who cares about the second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: Did President Obama Lie About (fill in anything), or Are He and His Staff Just That Ignorant?<br />
A: Most likely Yes to the first and who cares about the second.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/02/26/did-president-obama-lie-about-health-care-in-his-non-sotu-tuesday-night-or-are-he-and-his-staff-just-that-ignorant/#comment-4215</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you people wonder why not even President Obama takes you seriously.

Blam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you people wonder why not even President Obama takes you seriously.</p>
<p>Blam.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/02/26/did-president-obama-lie-about-health-care-in-his-non-sotu-tuesday-night-or-are-he-and-his-staff-just-that-ignorant/#comment-4214</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/02/26/did-president-obama-lie-about-health-care-in-his-non-sotu-tuesday-night-or-are-he-and-his-staff-just-that-ignorant/#comment-4213</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because someone else got the math wrong, doesn't mean that your messiah is right.  Seriously, check out just &lt;a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/02/25/the-truth-about-medical-bankruptcies/" rel="nofollow"&gt;how stupid that statistic is&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If what President Obama said were true, there would be approximately 1.05 million health care related bankruptcies in this country every year. However, in 2007 (the last full year for which there is data available, there were a total of only 815,000 non-business bankruptcies nationwide. Moreover, according to a study by Dr. Ning Zhu at UC-Davis, only 5 percent of bankruptcies are caused by medical bills. That suggests that in 2007 there were about 41,000 health care related bankruptcies. Too many, to be sure, but a far cry for 1.05 million.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because someone else got the math wrong, doesn&#8217;t mean that your messiah is right.  Seriously, check out just <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/02/25/the-truth-about-medical-bankruptcies/" rel="nofollow">how stupid that statistic is</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>If what President Obama said were true, there would be approximately 1.05 million health care related bankruptcies in this country every year. However, in 2007 (the last full year for which there is data available, there were a total of only 815,000 non-business bankruptcies nationwide. Moreover, according to a study by Dr. Ning Zhu at UC-Davis, only 5 percent of bankruptcies are caused by medical bills. That suggests that in 2007 there were about 41,000 health care related bankruptcies. Too many, to be sure, but a far cry for 1.05 million.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: bill2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:  Jeff Emanuel Article Calling Obama a Liar on RedState, in ERROR, see referenced article below.  In his RedState Column he calls Obama a Liar for stating that a Bankruptcy is filed every 30 seconds due to a serious health problem.  Jeff Emanuel bosts that he write for your Magazine. He should submit a correction to his error; you should expect integrity from your writers, not incompetence.




Obama did not lie.  He quoted this article based on a 2005 study conducted at Harvard.  Perhaps Jeff Emanuel should call Harvard Professors the liars, rather than Obama.  Obama did not Lie, he just repeated what was already documented.  

Sick and Broke

By Elizabeth Warren
Wednesday, February 9, 2005; Page A23

The problem is not in the bankruptcy laws. The problem is in the health care finance system and in chronic debates about reforming it. The Harvard study shows:

• Health insurance isn’t an on-off switch, giving full protection to everyone who has it. There is real coverage and there is faux coverage.

Policies that can be canceled when you need them most are often useless. So is bare-bones coverage like the Utah Medicaid program pioneered by new Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt; it pays for primary care visits but not specialists or hospital care. We need to talk about quality, durable coverage, not just about how to get more names listed on nearly-useless insurance policies.

• The link between jobs and health insurance is strained beyond the breaking point. A harsh fact of life in America is that illness leads to job loss, and that can mean a double kick when people lose their insurance. Promising them high-priced coverage through COBRA is meaningless if they can’t afford to pay. Comprehensive health insurance is the only real solution, not just for the poor but for middle-class Americans as well.

Without better coverage, millions more Americans will be hit by medical bankruptcy over the next decade. It will not be limited to the poorly educated, the barely employed or the uninsured. The people financially devastated by a serious illness are at the heart of the middle class.


Every 30 seconds in the United States, someone files for bankruptcy in the aftermath of a serious health problem. Time is running out. A broken health care system is bankrupting families across this country.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9447-2005Feb8.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  Jeff Emanuel Article Calling Obama a Liar on RedState, in ERROR, see referenced article below.  In his RedState Column he calls Obama a Liar for stating that a Bankruptcy is filed every 30 seconds due to a serious health problem.  Jeff Emanuel bosts that he write for your Magazine. He should submit a correction to his error; you should expect integrity from your writers, not incompetence.</p>
<p>Obama did not lie.  He quoted this article based on a 2005 study conducted at Harvard.  Perhaps Jeff Emanuel should call Harvard Professors the liars, rather than Obama.  Obama did not Lie, he just repeated what was already documented.  </p>
<p>Sick and Broke</p>
<p>By Elizabeth Warren<br />
Wednesday, February 9, 2005; Page A23</p>
<p>The problem is not in the bankruptcy laws. The problem is in the health care finance system and in chronic debates about reforming it. The Harvard study shows:</p>
<p>• Health insurance isn’t an on-off switch, giving full protection to everyone who has it. There is real coverage and there is faux coverage.</p>
<p>Policies that can be canceled when you need them most are often useless. So is bare-bones coverage like the Utah Medicaid program pioneered by new Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt; it pays for primary care visits but not specialists or hospital care. We need to talk about quality, durable coverage, not just about how to get more names listed on nearly-useless insurance policies.</p>
<p>• The link between jobs and health insurance is strained beyond the breaking point. A harsh fact of life in America is that illness leads to job loss, and that can mean a double kick when people lose their insurance. Promising them high-priced coverage through COBRA is meaningless if they can’t afford to pay. Comprehensive health insurance is the only real solution, not just for the poor but for middle-class Americans as well.</p>
<p>Without better coverage, millions more Americans will be hit by medical bankruptcy over the next decade. It will not be limited to the poorly educated, the barely employed or the uninsured. The people financially devastated by a serious illness are at the heart of the middle class.</p>
<p>Every 30 seconds in the United States, someone files for bankruptcy in the aftermath of a serious health problem. Time is running out. A broken health care system is bankrupting families across this country.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9447-2005Feb8.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9447-2005Feb8.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: DerKrieger</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/02/26/did-president-obama-lie-about-health-care-in-his-non-sotu-tuesday-night-or-are-he-and-his-staff-just-that-ignorant/#comment-4211</link>
		<dc:creator>DerKrieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He lies each and every single day. He's a Marxist and that's what they do. Reread animal Farm. Obama is the biggest pig of the bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He lies each and every single day. He&#8217;s a Marxist and that&#8217;s what they do. Reread animal Farm. Obama is the biggest pig of the bunch.</p>
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		<title>By: jcheney</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....to being paranoid and believe they're doing everything quick and on purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..to being paranoid and believe they&#8217;re doing everything quick and on purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeO</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/02/26/did-president-obama-lie-about-health-care-in-his-non-sotu-tuesday-night-or-are-he-and-his-staff-just-that-ignorant/#comment-4209</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.</description>
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		<title>By: dvdmsr</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/02/26/did-president-obama-lie-about-health-care-in-his-non-sotu-tuesday-night-or-are-he-and-his-staff-just-that-ignorant/#comment-4208</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The checks are on the way!</description>
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		<title>By: Doc Holliday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Holliday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nt</description>
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		<title>By: 10ksnooker</title>
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		<dc:creator>10ksnooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who was talking?</description>
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		<title>By: Kenny Solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yes and yes.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

;)

Seriously though, call me paranoid, but I sincerely believe they're doing EVERYTHING ON PURPOSE and all at once.  They want as many of our side really mad at them, because one day, somebody is going to do something REAL STUPID and then they'll simply seize the government "for the good of the people and country" - at that point, all bets are off and we'll have King Obama and his civilian defense corps on the march.

I also deep-down know they're going to over-reach and then..... ooh boy, it's not gonna be pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>Yes and yes.</b></i></p>
<p> <img src='http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously though, call me paranoid, but I sincerely believe they&#8217;re doing EVERYTHING ON PURPOSE and all at once.  They want as many of our side really mad at them, because one day, somebody is going to do something REAL STUPID and then they&#8217;ll simply seize the government &#8220;for the good of the people and country&#8221; - at that point, all bets are off and we&#8217;ll have King Obama and his civilian defense corps on the march.</p>
<p>I also deep-down know they&#8217;re going to over-reach and then&#8230;.. ooh boy, it&#8217;s not gonna be pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EagleWatcher</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you add up the lies and misleading statements he made in the non-SOTU the answer to you question is option 1. I suspect that option 2 may come into play to some extent, however. He looked into the camera with a straight face and said there were no earmarks in the stimulus package. 

He gets away with it because his followers are willing to forgive anything at this point. At some point, though, I suspect they will begin to peal off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you add up the lies and misleading statements he made in the non-SOTU the answer to you question is option 1. I suspect that option 2 may come into play to some extent, however. He looked into the camera with a straight face and said there were no earmarks in the stimulus package. </p>
<p>He gets away with it because his followers are willing to forgive anything at this point. At some point, though, I suspect they will begin to peal off.</p>
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		<title>By: itdiehard</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like 95% of Americans will receive a tax cut</description>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: roma</title>
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		<dc:creator>roma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, a POTUS who lies? Obama is so disingenuous that he makes Bill Clinton look like an amateur snake oil salesman. He's a danger to  this country because he's the personification of the Manchurean Candidate. Beware America, wake up citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, a POTUS who lies? Obama is so disingenuous that he makes Bill Clinton look like an amateur snake oil salesman. He&#8217;s a danger to  this country because he&#8217;s the personification of the Manchurean Candidate. Beware America, wake up citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Common_Cents</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Cmon, I dare you to call me out on my lies."

Obama is a bold faced liar, rationalized by his election.

When he said there are NO earmarks, that confirmed it wasn't lazyness or ignorance.

He thinks most Americans are too dumbed down to challenge him, and as of now, he is right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cmon, I dare you to call me out on my lies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama is a bold faced liar, rationalized by his election.</p>
<p>When he said there are NO earmarks, that confirmed it wasn&#8217;t lazyness or ignorance.</p>
<p>He thinks most Americans are too dumbed down to challenge him, and as of now, he is right.</p>
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