The Skinny on Obama’s Supposedly ‘Watershed’ Health Care Meeting


The Obama administration and its mouthpieces have spent a great deal of breath, airtime, and ink trying to tell America that, by the mere act of holding a press conference on heath care, President Obama has revolutionized America and proven he is a man of his word who “really intends to keep his campaign promises.”

Despite all the self-congratulations and arrogant talk about the historicity of this (as there is with every move the administration makes), Monday’s announcement of several chief health care players rushing to take seats at the table so as not to be eaten for dinner by the out of control leviathan our Democrat-dominated federal government has become was only a “watershed” event insofar as, to our neophyte president, every event that involves him or happens during his presidency is “unprecedented” or “watershed” (except, of course, for the negatives — all of those were “inherited”).

What this supposedly “game-changing” move consists of is an Obama administration doing what Democrats accused George W. Bush of doing for eight years: jumping into bed with the insurance companies and so-called “Big Health Care.” In exchange for future considerations (read: more lenient treatment in pending legislation), the five major health care trade associations are colluding to squeeze up to $2T out of patients and providers over the course of the next several years.

This is part of a natural progression that began in December, when AHIP (America’s Health Insurance Plans) embraced President Obama’s election by calling on the incoming administration to make it the law of the land that every American had to purchase their product or face legal consequences. Despite the administration’s penchant for spending trillions of dollars it simply doesn’t have, the cost of subsidizing the portion of the population that would need assistance to comply with such a mandate (up to $2,000,000,000,000.00 a year) is too high for the federal government to afford right now.

In an effort to help (and, in doing so, to remain on the notoriously vindictive administration’s good side), this new cartel of health care organizations is, in essence, offering to cut your access to health care (not to mention its quality) in order to satisfy the feds’ budgeting desires.

Like the ridiculous “created or saved” language used to describe the failed stimulus package’s projected effects on the American job market, this health care proposal is devoid both of an enforcement apparatus and of real metrics by which its success can be judged. Further, with the cost of health care in America climbing to $2,400,000,000,000.00 in 2008 expenditures alone, a total savings of $2 trillion over the course of several years is a mere drop in the financial bucket — one which is not worth the human cost the necessary cuts in services and health care quality to make up that savings will impose.


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The great ones always have a vindictive side

NotSoBlueStater (Diary) Wednesday, May 13th at 11:45AM EST (link)

Being vindictive doesn’t make you a great one, of course. And it’s certainly a stretch to say Obama ever will be. I’m just saying that you always need a vindictive streak if you want to truly change the status quo. In this sense, I have trouble seeing vindictiveness as a negative.

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The Conservative creed has never offered a life of ease without effort. Democracy is not for such people. Self-government is for those men and women who have learned to govern themselves. – Margaret Thatcher

So threatening private businesses

Vegas_Rick (Diary) Wednesday, May 13th at 4:35PM EST (link)

with draconian legislation to get them to do things that are NOT in the bests interests of their share holders, is not a negative?

Threatening TARP recipients who wanted their LEGALLY CONTRACTED payments on bad debts so that the One could give special preference (reverence) to the UAW is not a negative?

Hmmmm

“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington

“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.

 
 

Reduce spending, reduce care,

johnt Wednesday, May 13th at 11:47AM EST (link)

and reduce the number of doctors, which is already going on and picking up steam.
Only a genius could come up with a solution like this. But down the road expect additional federal intrusions, but not improvements.
And a brain dead electorate remains supine.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

Yep, then the government can step in to fill the "need". nt

Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, May 13th at 12:53PM EST (link)

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

 

When they Start Shipping "Domestic Terrorists"

jimmuy8 (Diary) Wednesday, May 13th at 1:11PM EST (link)

out to the “work camps,” they’ll be counted as A) Employed, B) Insured and C) a reduction in health care costs (i.e.:dead or soon to be.)

 
 

Meetings Meetings Meetings

ATLconservative Wednesday, May 13th at 12:45PM EST (link)

Anyone else get the impression that – had he ever held a job in the private sector – BO would be that guy in the office who just loves to call meetings just to have a meeting?

I’m surprised he didn’t call a meeting to schedule this meeting. It would definitely fit BO’s MO.

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Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Wednesday, May 13th at 12:52PM EST (link)

JE

 

Definitely a pointy-haired boss!

vettepilot (Diary) Wednesday, May 13th at 11:19PM EST (link)

Although he’s displaying a frightening combination of Pointy Haired Barack and evil HR manager Catbert.

And it’s not just meetings for the sake of meetings, although those are worthless enough; it’s meetings for the sake of forcing other people to hear what he has to say. Truly productive meetings involve collaboration and the free exchange of ideas and data; Obama meetings sound more like lectures.

 
 

Obama Health Care Deal

melvinwinter Wednesday, May 13th at 12:59PM EST (link)

Here’s another Onion-style parody on the long-term pain that’s likely to accompany a short-term feel-good health care deal:

http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/05/joe-bama-smooth-character-ad-campaign.html

 

The Financial Guys Fed the Crocodile

jimmuy8 (Diary) Wednesday, May 13th at 1:16PM EST (link)

–That’s worked out well for them.

Now, the Health Care Guys are lining up to feed the Crocodile again.

You know that old Norse tale about the eating contest where, after losing, the other contestant was revealed to be Fire?

0bama is the fire–he will never, ever have enough. He will consume us all and still be hungry.

 

Here's what I don't get about all this

bk (Diary) Wednesday, May 13th at 1:26PM EST (link)

The President keeps saying that government health care will cost so much less than our current system that the average family will save a couple hundred dollars a month.

If that’s the case, then why are they looking for hundreds of billions in cap and trade taxes, plus more billions in venial sin taxes like cokes and chips, plus God knows what other taxes in order to pay for it? If it’s so much cheaper, then why do they new to spend a couple trillion more?

Am I completely missing something, or is this something the press lackeys should be jumping all over every day? It’s as if the Obama approach is like a person bragging that they got a 10% mortgage instead of a 6% mortgage because they get a bigger tax break.

 

Mr President

fmaidment (Diary) Wednesday, May 13th at 2:43PM EST (link)

Mr. President, our healthcare system wasn’t “broken,” as you have said, until Government tried to “fix” it.

It’s like watching the clueless guy work on his car. “I think the alternator needs to be replaced!” Then when that doesn’t work, “Must be the transmission!” “No, wait, the timing belts.” Pretty soon, all you have is an engine in pieces and a much smaller bank account…

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The skinny? $2 Trillion in health care "savings" is a scam...

rbdwiggins (Diary) Wednesday, May 13th at 6:36PM EST (link)

The Obama plan will not reduce the cost of health care. The cost of health care will increase dramatically under the Obama plan.

Here’s why:

Over the next 10 years — from 2010 to 2019 — they are pledging to cut the rate of growth of national health care spending by 1.5 percentage points each year — an amount that’s equal to over $2 trillion. Two trillion dollars.

(emphasis mine)

Words have meaning.

“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan

 

Both the insurance providers and "big pharma" have another thing coming...

vettepilot (Diary) Thursday, May 14th at 12:07AM EST (link)

Especially if they think that grovelling at the feet of Obama is going to save their hides. They clearly haven’t been paying attention to the financial and automotive sectors…

The pharmaceutical companies will be the next target once Obama eliminates the competition from the private insurers. If you think O doesn’t know how to run a car company, wait until he gets his hands on commercial drug development. I have friends at just about every pharma and medical devices company out there, and none of them are particularly comfortable right now. My mother-in-law, who up until she earned herself a director level position at a major pharma company was a bleeding heart lib, sounds downright free market now. She also understands the investment these companies make in bringing a successful product to market and the relatively short timeline they have to recoup that investment. Most drugs are on the market for 7-12 years before they go generic. The patent protection is good for 20 years, but is typically applied for near the beginning of development. This means that the pharma company has to fund 8-13 years of R&D before recovering any cost of a successful drug. But the pharma companies have to leverage their successful products not only to generate revenue to create future successful products, but also to recoup the losses from unsuccessful ones. For every Viagra, there are 15 drugs that never make it to market. And what’s the use in investigating all of that research and development money to produce a product when some bureaucrat can decide that it isn’t cost-effective enough for your doctor to prescribe? These companies simply won’t take the risk… But of course, they’ll be portrayed as “greedy” for preventing competing generics to come to market and inflating the cost of medicine, and “uncaring” for not bringing innovative new products to market.

As far as the individual insurance companies go, America is being fed a line and is biting hook, line, and sinker. Pres. Obama makes it a point to mention at every opportunity the fact that everyone will be able to keep their own private insurance if they so choose. This ignores several facts. The first is that many companies will simply stop offering health insurance benefits, effectively eliminating the choice for employees of those companies. This will lead to the second misleading idea in his statement; private insurance will become so expensive that few will elect to keep it. As the number of employers who stop offering health coverage increases, the risk pool for those private insurance companies decreases. This means that the risk is shared among fewer end customers which will result in sky-high premiums. Meanwhile, the government insurance plan will benefit from an exponentially larger risk pool, making those “rates” look much more attractive.

There are things that are definitely broken in both portions of the industry, as there are with any industry (I work in cellular, and believe me that industry has some broken business models!), but the direction that nationalized health care takes us is not only nearly impossible to reverse, but it does nothing to address the fundamental problems. It simply reassigns them to government, and one look at Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid will give you an idea as to how that will turn out.

555555 nt

itrytobenice (Diary) Friday, May 15th at 1:09AM EST (link)

Proper grammar saves lives.

Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.


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are we going to be forced to take medicaid?

mom2oneson (Diary) Thursday, May 14th at 11:21AM EST (link)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090514/ap_on_go_co/us_health_overhaul

WASHINGTON – House Democrats are looking at big health care changes, including federal aid to help families earning up to $88,000 pay for insurance and a requirement that all must carry coverage.

to kowalski this

mom2oneson (Diary) Thursday, May 14th at 12:32PM EST (link)

this is basically what they have done to the poor it would not suprise me now they want to move it up to folks with higher earnings