Bringing the Public’s Coverage to the Congressional Level
House Energy and Commerce Committee Democrats voted 31-28 to reject an amendment from Reps. Roy Blunt (R-MO), Phil Gingrey (R-GA), and Lee Terry (R-NE) that would have opened up the multiple-plan health coverage options available to Members of Congress to the public at large.
Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY), who spoke at length yesterday about the need to ensure Americans have access to the same quality health coverage that Congress gets, came out against the measure when the Republican trio offered him a chance to put his vote where his mouth was.
“People will say to us, ‘Why can’t we have the same thing you guys have?’” said Gingrey. “We ought to give everybody in this country an opportunity to get this.”
E&C Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) responded that, in his view, opening up the Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan to the general public was unacceptable “because it strikes the public plan.” E&C Health Subcommittee Chair Frank Pallone (D-NJ) said the proposal to let the public into Congress’ health plan was based on “a false assumption” that the result “is going to be somehow better” than segregating Congress’ health care from that of the great unwashed.
Bringing Congress’ Coverage to the Public Level
A separate amendment sponsored by Rep. Roy Blunt would have put all members of the committee on the record about the desirability of the Democrats’ “public option” by forcing them to vote for or against the automatic enrollment of all federal elected officials from Congress to the President in that public health coverage plan.
“We’ve been challenged by many constituents that ‘if there’s going to be this government plan, shouldn’t you be a part of it?’ I agree with my constituents that if were going to pass this plan, we ought to put ourselves in it,” said Rep. Lee Terry (R-NE). North Carolina Republican Sue Myrick concurred, saying, “If this is a good plan for them, it ought to be good enough for us.”
With its mandatory subjection of Washington officials to the same health coverage those officials have been working to force the American public into, Blunt’s proposal was indeed, as Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA) put it, “a put-up-or-shut-up amendment.”
Rather than either put up or shut up, though, Waxman saved his fellow pro-government health insurance colleagues (and his endangered Blue Dog coalition) from having to go on the record about their willingness to accept the same health coverage they are offering the rest of America by dismissing the amendment on procedural grounds without holding a vote.
In an ultimate CYA cop-out move, Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA) argued that the amendment was outside the jurisdiction of the committee because it would affect the benefits of members of Congress. Waxman upheld her with a ruling of the chair, and the amendment was dismissed.
Being All-Powerful Has Its Advantages
Meanwhile, in an unrelated vote, House E&C Democrats defeated an amendment (32-23) that would have prohibited the federal government from using tax incentives and other governmental powers to give the “public option” a competitive advantage over private insurers in open competition.
Rep. George Radanovich’s (R-CA) amendment would have prohibited the federal government from employing special tax breaks and favorable regulation on behalf of the “public option.”
Rep. Christopher Murphy (D-CT) argued that the government-run health coverage program was really a nonprofit, and that as such it would be unfair to prevent it from receiving preferential tax treatment. Pallone went one further, arguing that the government-run health plan should be able to borrow cash from other federal agencies’ budgets in order to assuage any losses incurred by providing subsidized coverage to a massive swath of the American population — something that would ensure a competitive advantage for the program by further removing any need to minimize losses in the marketplace.
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Is this another ACORN??
bobojake Friday, July 31st at 6:02PM EDT (link)only times 100 million.
Put obamacare in the Graveyard where it belongs before it kills us.
RIP
TORT REFORM TORT REFORM
ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS
TORT REFORM TORT REFORM
ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS
These 2 alone will reduce healthcare costs by 30% to 60% .
All Federal Employees and Unions must be on any healthcare required for the public. PERIOD.
It seems to me
Lammo Friday, July 31st at 6:08PM EDT (link)that the majority of those who cannot afford health care insurance are in that position because they are not part of a group that spreads the costs. For example, as a county employee I pay $55 per month to cover my family of four (it would be the same even if we were a family of eight or twelve). Additionally, the county pays approximately $1100 per month*. It appears that it would cost over $2200 per month to buy the same coverage as an individual. Now, cutting the cost in half just by making everyone eligible for the group rates may not make it affordable for all but it would be a good start. Instead of radically remaking the entire health care system in the name of “affordability”, why not set up regional “groups” for the purpose of spreading health insurance costs? Nah, that would never work - - it’s too simple and wouldn’t achieve the goal of socializing medicine in America.
* I do not believe that this amount is remitted to the carrier each month. In some of the contract and budget discussions I’m aware of it appears that this money goes into a sort of “self insurance” fund and is then paid out to the carrier as costs are incurred but is otherwise retained by the county.
ACORN: Association of Criminals Obama Represented in the Nineties. (jupitersuite)
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Dean Heller also tried to require Congress to join any government-run plan...
Stan Olshefski Friday, July 31st at 6:10PM EDT (link)http://deanheller.com/blog/dean-congress-should-join-government-run-health-plan
And this is surprising how?
Xasteius Friday, July 31st at 6:30PM EDT (link)Despite the Democrats’ claim to equality for all, they’ve always been of the mind that some are more equal than others. I must, however, congratulate Roy Blunt on proposing the amendment in the first place; it makes me more inclined to support this guy out in his Senate bid.
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
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LOL
10ksnooker Friday, July 31st at 6:35PM EDT (link)You thought our elected clunkers would actually live under the rules they make.
So now we need to loathe the insurance companies? I would say that hate is for stupid people.
Batting .500
saintgeorgegentile Friday, July 31st at 6:39PM EDT (link)It’s nice to see my BDDem (Matheson-UT) vote Yea with the Rs on the first amendment. Can’t wait for the break and the town halls here in SW Utah. My suggestion to Matheson had been not to allow everyone else into the Congressional plan but to force every Federal employee into the Government plan (Blount didn’t go far enough).
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Send them the "Congressional Healthcare Equality Pledge"
toni100 Friday, July 31st at 6:56PM EDT (link)Deluge these elitists with the Congressional Healthcare Equality Pledge (CHEP).
If it’s good enough for us, then it’s good enough for them!
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I hope this information makes it out into the MSM
avgamerican Friday, July 31st at 8:05PM EDT (link)But some how I am skeptical it will. This should be enough to convince the voters of the dems and health care.
I wish there were some R's with some guts
Scope Saturday, August 1st at 4:12PM EDT (link)that would see the usefullness in using this in an ad that could target every Democrat or leaning Democrat city and county in the country. So many voted for this man because he promised to “redistribute the wealth.” Didn’t he tell Joe the Plumer that he wanted to make sure that those behind him got the same? Create an ad that would ask the question- Obama promised fairness and equality for all US citizens, is he, and the members of Congress better or more equal than the citizens he promised equality to. Simple direct, and easy enough for a cave man to understand. Show the idiots that voted for him just how much he really cares about them.
Scope, I think this will come back to bite them.
Vegas_Rick Saturday, August 1st at 4:20PM EDT (link)Every vote will be one more bullet in the gun, or sound bite in the ad, as we fight the 2010 primary and general elections. And some incumbent Republicans will be in the sights as well.
I’m soooooooo looking forward to joining the battle.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Yes, Vegas Rick, and I can see it now:
janis Saturday, August 1st at 4:37PM EDT (link)Obama during the campaign spouting his empty rhetoric about universal health care for America, yammering on every single day on the subject of class warfare and how awful and greedy it was for the evil rich to have more of everything, including that “cadillac” healthcare.
Fast forward to Obama a few weeks ago talking about healthcare and saying that “I and members of Congress have good health care. We don’t have to worry about how we’ll take care of our families, but many in America don’t have insurance.” (Not an exact quote, but close.)
Nice juxtaposition.
Yesireeee, pick and choose your battles wisely if you want to win the war
Scope Saturday, August 1st at 4:53PM EDT (link)and they just keep providing us with such winnable battles, or as you say bullets. I also look so forward to joining in the fight.
Yesireeee, pick and choose your battles wisely if you want to win the war
Scope Saturday, August 1st at 4:53PM EDT (link)and they just keep providing us with such winnable battles, or as you say bullets. I also look so forward to joining in the fight.