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The Flag@whitehouse.gov story has only begun – and we must demand the Facts! (WH Reality Check ‘contact’ update – broken Security still allows stuffing)

Will the Cover-up be again even worse than the original violations? [Update: The highly touted FIX over some concerns with the Flag@whitehouse.gov not having "confirmation" - the reCAPTCHA (tm) Security - DOES NOT WORK! -- more on that in the article]

[h/t to Mike for BREAKING: "Gibbs admits 'the List'" and Moe for: "White House: Axelrod spam? All because of outside agitators"]

The Leftist fools think the story is over, but it is only beginning. The removal of the Flag@whithouse.gov email address on the OFFICIAL whitehouse.gov Government website Server has bound them to Laws they are used to ignoring and got called on. We cannot allow this story to end here with their tacit (implied/silent) admission of a “mistake” but, of course, no admission of wrong-doing.

Who knew What? and When did they Know it?!?!?

The seriousness of the allegations demand an Independent Investigation and explanation? Remember that “STANDARD” as set by Democrats!?!? So, when will the Emails, Address Lists, etc, be turned over to the FBI for Investigation as to the questions that are outstanding and will be pointed out in this Diary.

First, the background: I’m an IT guy and it was my career/profession for 25 years!!! There are many other “IT” folks here at RedState and we know full well this stinks to high heaven from an IT basic practices standpoint alone as well as all those pesky little Laws.

Having heard all the reports and read many of the discussions on the topic, I decided to report myself to (Flag@wh), appears I was one of the last to get it through as the address is now no longer valid.

I reported one of my email addresses by using/sending through another one of my email addresses ;-) lol…. (CC’ing a few folks with it) knowing that the Law required them to keep it on file and wanting to see if they were still STUPID enough to still be adding people’s email addresses sent in to receive their unsolicited/unwanted SPAM (a, thanks for sending to flag@… blah, blah, blah, of course, would be an acceptable/reasonable COURTESY but anything beyond that) and (if no other reason) to have in their permanent files (if they are NOT just ignoring that law) my objections to the HC BS I sent my entire RS Diary (Democrat Health Care Townhalls propaganda – a place to report the Democrats’ Talking Points (read: Lies) and refute them with specifics) as in-line text. They, it appears, stopped the practice of mining the email addresses of enemies (or, at least, stopped sending things out to those added to whatever list) at that point as I hadn’t received anything back as acknowledgement to the one email for writing into flag@wh or the other email address I was “reporting.” Nor had I received any response to the “supposed” misinformation there-in.

The trouble, of course, is we are still not getting the follow-up needed to pressure the questioning of whether they are obeying the law and maintaining the emails on file and getting to the real (obvious) truth that regardless of how the emails were sent/forwarded to flag@wh they violated so many other laws by mining the email addresses from those sent in and compiled to (whatever they want to call) a list we all know (through others experiencing it first hand unsolicited returns) they compiled.

This story is NOT complete and pressure must be kept up to get the answers to those (some follow) questions!!!! A couple (at least) real questions remain…

1. REGARDLESS, of the BS excuses as to how the WH wishes to SPIN how the emails landed up at/on the Flag@wh email server…. HOW did (and who specifically did it – Campaign workers or Federal Govt employees or automated data-mining reader program) the email addresses get mined?!?!?!

2. TO WHAT LIST were those email addresses mined added to?!?!? Specifically!!! What is the complete list, where/who maintains it, who has access to send propaganda out via it?!?!?!

3. What Agency will be leading the Investigation?!?! PROVE that the WH is obeying the Law that all correspondence sent to the WH, including via email (ON THIS OFFICIAL WH GOVT. SERVER) is being maintained!!!!! Provide access to all the emails for review!!!!! Let those who have been SPAMMED now be able to search/review (on their own or via FBI INVESTIGATION) in what manner their email address was “SHARED” with the WH?!?!?!

Keep sending your “concerns” to FOX (the only Network challenging the ObamaBinBiden admin on their violations of Federal Law in these regards) to keep asking the unresolved questions. They cannot just be let off the hook now because they stopped SPAMMING, for now, and shutdown the site. LAWS HAVE BEEN BROKEN IN ONE SHAPE OR ANOTHER AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW — WHAT DID THEY KNOW AND WHEN DID THEY KNOW IT???

What shenanigans will be going on with the whitehouse.gov/realitycheck page?? I have gone to the propaganda page and clicked the “contact” link to pass my thoughts along, like I did via email to flag@whitehouse.gov — interesting interaction thus far…

First, I put in my information and I clicked the “I want a response” (as well as the sign-up for emails) check-box and await response(s) which I’ll come back and add concerns regarding via a comment response into the Diary as we go along (so keep checking back and/or report your own interactions here).

What is really interesting, however, is that when I submitted the information the “verification box” (reCAPTCHA) DIDN’T WORK!! That’s right, that “extra step” they insist they are taking didn’t work. I accidentally (very fortuitously) got an extra letter in one of the words that I was required to put in YET it didn’t error. I was taken directly to the “Thank You” exit page!!! I went back and did other comments to test it and it doesn’t matter what you put in!!! (last tested 8/18 14:35EST Thu. Aug. 20 00:15EST)

So there care and/or supposed concern is BOGUS!!!

as always….
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
Liberals, looking to do to America what they’ve done to Detroit

PS: Remember this was/is all about the Healthcare: Democrat Health Care Townhall propaganda – a place to report the Dem’s Talking Points (read: Lies) and refute them with specifics, More HC Townhall Hi-jinks, HC Townhall: Like Hollywood, Democrats used new Actors to replay the same Script., and remind the Republicans as you contact them to voice your objection to Crap-and-Tax, another Porkulus, Health Care Takeover Act II, etc: Republicans must be the Party of NO [to Bigger Govt.] not the Party of SLOW[er Liberal Incremental-ism]

PSS: UPDATE SEPT. 2009:
From the WhiteHouse Reality Check:


Dear Friend,

Our latest Reality Check video features Vice President Joe Biden addressing the biggest whopper of all: that our health insurance system works just fine and Americans don’t care about reform. Nothing could be further from the truth.

So we’re trying something new. You can help the Vice President debunk this myth by uploading your own video on why reform matters to you. This is an opportunity for Americans of all backgrounds and situations to make the case for reform in your own words.

Watch the Vice President’s video and then respond with your own:

Need some help? We also have a new online quiz to help set the record straight about health insurance reform. Find out what’s in reform for somebody like you by answering a few questions.

What does reform mean if you already have insurance? What if you don’t? What does it mean if you’re young? If you’re a senior? If you have children?

Take the quiz and then share it — simple tools like this are a great way to cut through the noise and get the facts about reform: www.WhiteHouse.gov/realitycheck/quiz

Thank you,

Nancy-Ann DeParle
Director, White House Office of Health Reform

P.S. No matter your age, where you work, whether you have insurance or not, you’ll be surprised at how much you’ll get out of health insurance reform. But don’t just take my word for it — take the quiz: www.WhiteHouse.gov/realitycheck/quiz


We’ve got to keep our eyes on their latest BS and tactics (see also: More HC Townhall Hi-jinks and HC Townhall: Like Hollywood, Democrats used new Actors to replay the same Script.)!

COMMENTS

  • ColdWarrior

    I just got an e-mail today from NAG:

    >>>

    Dear XXX,

    I am alarmed and I need your help to stop the flood of anti-abortion amendments being added to health care reform bills. Some of those amendments would not only prevent improvements in women’s health care — they could take away the abortion coverage that many women already have from their private insurance plans.

    I need activism and the most generous gift you can afford to block these attacks on women’s health care. We must move quickly to contact every member of Congress during this late summer recess to make it clear that women’s lives are not for sale. What can you do?

    First: your senators and representative are at home and accessible. Call their district offices today and remind them that women’s reproductive health is not a bargaining chip to be traded at the whim of some insurance company or drug manufacturer. If they are holding town meetings, go and speak up for women.

    Second: please send your contribution today to help us mobilize NOW’s network of grassroots activists. We need to move quickly, so the health care reform that we’ve all longed for and worked for doesn’t turn out to be a disaster for women’s reproductive rights.

    When even people we helped elect to office cannot be counted on to stand up and fight for basic reproductive health care, it’s time to begin holding some feet to the fire.

    Congress goes back in session in September, and health care legislation could quickly gel into its final form. While members are at home for their August recess we have an ideal opportunity to make it clear to each of them that women’s lives must be taken off the bargaining table.

    Please contact your representatives and let me hear from you today.

    In sisterhood,

    Terry O’Neill
    President, National Organization for Women

    <<<

    I e-mailed back asking how I came to be placed on their e-mail list. Now I will call Mr. O’Neil, as I’m sure I’ll never get a reply to the e-maill.

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

    • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

      while they have full cover from the MSM beyond they have ever had lavished upon them before. The level of distortions and out-right lies know no bounds these days.

  • penguin2

    by the time this four year term is over. I am not conspiracy theory type, but I am a realist. Even if they say they have “destroyed the databases” who can prove it? We know we exist forever in the ‘files’ of the Internet. Maybe the laws that brought down the Nixon administration all those years ago will work again for the American people. I doubt it. There is too much power behind the throne.

    In the meantime, we can all be proud members of whatever list they put us on.

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    as noted in your last paragraph. Especially for the most technologically savvy administration ever.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    There was something nagging at me behind this more than what has been on the surface and it finally dawned on me. I have not, however, yet done the searches to link back and review corralations. There is, though, lingering questions and it is suspicious we are covering this ground yet again!!! Still, nothing from the MSM after all the hailed praise for the WH adding the Security layer!!! Like anything/everything ObamaBinBiden does – ALL FOR SHOW!!!!

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    JLenard, I ran a google search about the added “security” layer having a major programing error (or is it really an “error”) when I first saw your original diary. I also ran another search just now. Nothing but crickets.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    I’ve just run another test/check (Thu Aug 20 00:15EST) and it FAILS (goes to general whitehouse.gov/contact) to perform the Security filtering…. What troubles me is that FOXnews has let this pass (I reported it to them) because they were the ones to break all the Flag@ BS and now don’t follow up. WHY?!?!?!

    As for the other point (tie-in with other Democrat misdeeds via Internet) – remember all the stuffed mini-donations they were allowing (AGAINST CAMPAIGN LAWS) because there was non-working verification and Security check software….. We still don’t know what they did with ALL that illegal Campaign Cash they racked in FROM THE GLOBE! They gave a small portion away when they were caught/called on it, but not all of it. The Democrats don’t give a darn about any Laws, those are just there to hamper Republicans!!

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    I wonder if we need to look into that even…. What firm took care of the whitehouse.gov site v/s before? and if they were replaced with a Left Wing loon owned startup firm that has zero history, knowledge, ability, etc, to perform this level of Internet Utility!?!?! Another TRAVELgate?!?!?

    I have NO IDEA… just throwing it out there…. I’ve come across several different firms that provide this interaction but hadn’t recalled coming across them before, but then again I may have NOT paid much attention elsewhere — (like in Ticketmaster, etc – PROFIT SITES) where Security really has to work and peoples jobs would depend on it actually functioning — mostly because it actually works other places!!!!

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    I was diappointed (and somewhat surprised) when I ran my searches and Fox didn’t appear to be reporting the story. Maybe they are, and are just shoring up alll the lose-ends? I was disappointed as well (and somewhat surprised) when I ran my searches and Fox News didn’t appear to be reporting the story. Maybe they are, and are just shoring up all the lose-ends along with leads to an even bigger story. This will be a big story, even if it takes the MSM and Fox News a few days or few weeks to realize this.

  • http://www.the41stvote.org rcov092

    they are hoping to get a sweet 92.0 million dollar contract to build Obama’s next website.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    Of course I’m not trying to equate the two, but I’d be remiss if I didn’t remind folks of the other Democrat misdeed that remotely connects/relates as our fellow Americans have such short…. um…. ah…. What was I saying? (Couldn’t pass on making the point via joke. Kinda like Jeopardy, but with puns ;-) lol Pun Points. Okay time to move on ;-) now). Seriously though, since attention spans/memories are about as short as a Teenager one is trying to teach a Life lesson to, we must repeat ourselves to break through the thick Political skulls.

    More directly to your comment…. There has always been this delicate line some have tried to make on the Corporate Welfare (Socialism for businesses) and Democrats had always accussed Republicans as … you know… but what is the GM/Chrysler BS!?!?! I have a local Liberal loon that has been a part of one of the local DNC hierarchy for decades (been working against the fool forever) who owns a business, and of course, he was at the Dingell Townhall (Democrat Health Care Townhall propaganda – a place to report the Dem’s Talking Points (read: Lies) and refute them with specifics) and mugging for the Press. He was running on and on about how, basically w/o saying it, the complete takeover of HC will be one big Corporate Welfare program and allow “him” to be more competative — bet some of his folks are covered already and he’s looking to offload them unto the Public Option. We’ve been hearing this BS for decades in relation to the UAW how if the Big 3 could unload their HC woes onto the Government they would be more competitive. Democrats are NOT, have never been, against WELFARE in any form to about anyone for any reason!!!!

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    but mark my words – we will be here AGAIN….. At some point down the line we will again have the opportunity to discuss this as the Democrats will again committ the same repeat of history and try the same excuses and dodges. They will again committ some FRAUD and Security measures (as now and was the case before about Campaign funds) will be part of the FAILURE mix. Then the story will be picked up again… but at least it has been reported for historical reference here at RedState! … I now return you to the sound of crickets chirping….

  • Achance

    Ds have that spread the money around thing down and you can rest assured that anyone they give a government contract, grant, or job to will be vetted for their political proclivities.

    My wife recently was interviewed for a fairly high but still merit system federal job. We were going out of town, so she called the hiring manager to give her a contact number should they need more info or want to make her an offer. She was told that the hiring panel had made a selection but the selection had to be approved in DC so it might be some time. So, the Administration is vetting career, merit system federal appointments. And, the Stupid Party can’t even bring itself to fire holdover Democrat political appointees!

    As much as I’d like my wife to have someone to supervise other than me and the cats, I suspect that when somebody in OPM or the WH sees that R behind her name, she won’t be getting a job offer.