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Top 10 reasons why McCain should pick Romney

Mitt's the best choice for VP

Ten: Values. Romney has proven himself acceptable to evangelicals on moral issues. His speech on religion was a home run which underlined the bedrock principle that liberty is bound to religious faith:

RUSH: I want to start with Mitt Romney today, Mitt Romney’s speech. Frankly, I thought what we saw today, folks, was a Republican candidate for president giving an inspiring speech. It was an inspiring speech about American values, including religion.

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I thought he showed today his ability to confront, to articulate, to persuade, and to lead.

Mitt’s Christmas- card-picture-perfect wife and kids are reminders that the traditional family is the fundamental cornerstone of America.
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Nine: McCain is old. He needs someone who is younger on his ticket. Mitt is younger than his years, and he’s comfortable with aspects of technology and new media that McCain seems to find difficult.

Eight: Follow the money. Although McCain and the RNC have done a good job recently in raising funds, Romney can add to that big time. Romney would bring an accomplished fundraising apparatus to McCain’s campaign so it can garner the needed cash to match the Dems in political ad buys.

Seven: Mitt’s kinda fly for a white guy. With the media working overtime to elect Obama, McCain has trouble getting attention. The telegentic and articulate Romney could really help McCain get his message out. So Romney’s good looks and obvious appeal to women (who are the majority of voters) is much more of a key factor than would appear at first glance:

The April cover story on NewsMax’s monthly magazine, titled “The Reagan Candidate: Mitt’s got the right stuff for 2008,” described Romney as “standing 6 feet 2 inches tall [with] jet-black hair, graying naturally at the temples. Women — who will play a critical role in this coming election — have a word for him: hot.”

Six: McCain needs an attack dog. He needs a VP nominee who will go after the opposing ticket and take no prisoners, leaving McCain free to take the high road that he seems to prefer against Obama. An excellent debater with the best oppo team in politics, Romney is perfect for the role:

The most obvious assets that Romney would bring to the Republican ticket include his economic expertise, fundraising prowess and potential to give McCain a boost in more than one battleground state. But a less talked about plus side to a Romney vice presidential candidacy is that despite his perpetually sunny demeanor, the former Massachusetts governor is not afraid to unleash razor-sharp political attacks against the opposition.

“This is not the time for an amateur,” Romney said of presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama. “This is the time for a tested, proven professional to lead our country.”

Five: Battleground states. Romney’s strength in Michigan would help McCain in a swing state that went for Kerry in 2004. And Romney also helps McCain in other important swing states like Colorado, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico and Ohio.

Four: No October surprises. Mitt is so clean that he squeaks. He has already been fully vetted by his GOP primary opponents, the media and the Democrats. There will be no John Edwards “there goes the Attorney General nomination” failures with Romney.

Three: He could save McCain’s bacon with conservatives. Although a late convert to the cause of conservatism, Romney has made all the right moves in appealing to conservatives since withdrawing from the race, beginning with his excellent speech to CPAC when he announced he was dropping out. It’s impossible to express just how desperately McCain needs the GOP’s conservative base. Many conservatives are so afraid that McCain will pick another centrist for his running mate that a Romney selection would be a welcome relief, especially among what Robert Novak calls Coulter conservatives.

Two: Can you say “executive experience?” Romney is the only major player in either party’s presidential process with a strong private sector resume, which means that he understands better than most how government economic policy impacts markets. In the public sector, he was an effective governor, despite having to deal with a legislature of the opposition party. His executive experience compliments McCain’s experience in the Senate. The editors of the Denver Post, in their endorsement of Romney, summed up why he impressed them:

Two issues have surfaced in the campaign that have undercut Romney’s popularity. First, his opponents have labeled the governor a “flip-flopper” for shifting views on social issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage. This is a valid concern, but politicians should be allowed to evolve over time as society changes or as they come upon new information. Romney admits to evolving positions on many matters. He told us that “someone who hasn’t changed their mind is someone you wouldn’t want” as president.

“I said, ‘Look, I personally oppose abortion, but I think the government ought to stay out of it.’ And that is effectively a pro-choice position,” Romney said. “And then I became governor and I became government and I got a bill on my desk which would have caused the creation of new life through cloning and the destruction of that life after 14 days and I simply said, ‘I cannot be party to that.’ So I vetoed that bill . . . and said, ‘I recognize that now that I am government, I simply must come down on the side of life.’ ”

The second issue has been the gratuitous focus on Romney’s Mormon faith. It’s been injected into the race, slyly and despicably, to create a wedge in the Republican contest. This sort of religious bigotry has no place in today’s political battles.

Romney’s handling of these troubles, with an even temperament and gravitas, were factors in our decision to support his bid.

Romney has the resume and executive experience to be not only an effective president, but a problem-solver in a world full of problems.

One: “It’s still the economy, stupid.” The economy is the single most important issue in this election. In every recent poll, economic matters are the number one concern of Americans. McCain starts with a disadvantage to Obama on the economy, and his own statement that the economy isn’t his strong suit is something the Dems are already trying to use against him. Mitt is the ideal choice to address McCain’s perceived weakness on economic issues. As a turnaround specialist, Romney would be a comfortable choice for those voters who fear that the country is slipping into a recession.

  • JP

COMMENTS

  • Susannah

    You make some excellent points in this diary. Particularly, points ten, five, and one. Mitt’s family would look great on stage with McCain’s family at the Republican convention. Also, I agree that Mitt would help give McCain gravitas on the economy. Oh, and finally, MI, OH, and NV are in play, and I don’t think that they would be if Hillary were the Democratic nominee (due to her strength with Reagan Democrats and Hispanics). Mitt would totally help out with those three battleground states. Anyway, good job! :-)

  • itrytobenice

    I would be pleased with several picks but Romney is certainly at the top of the list.

    And good summary.

    Recommended. In the New RS 3.0 way. Which means I left you this nifty little comment. :)

  • tcgeol

    I would be fine with Romney. He does give us the advantage in Michigan, which would be an enormous help.

    Really, I trust him more on a number of issues than McCain, and while he’s not Thompson or Hunter, he is still reasonably conservative.

  • dskinner11

    I totally agree and I think that Romney would help the most for all those reasons.

    However because I ultimately believe that McCain will have to win or lose on his own (probably lose unfortunately), I don’t want any politician with a future in the GOP to get sullied by running with McCain.

    If Romney, Jindal, Palin, or any other candidate with a future in the GOP is McCain’s VP, they will either get stuck defending some of McCain’s awful positions or be associated with a losing candidate, or both.

    I want Romney at the RNC and Kasich as McCain’s VP.

  • Adam_C

    I disagree with several. Yes, McCain must pick someone younger. But all the possible choices are younger. That doesn’t really point you in Mitt’s direction.

    I don’t believe he helps with most conservatives. There is still a lot of suspicion about Mitt’s convenient position changes and whether he has any core beliefs. I think Palin, Sanford, or Coburn would be much better at reassuring the right.

    And the economy is a mixed bag. I agree that he has real world business experience. But when people are losing their homes in foreclosure, a big time CEO who bought and sold companies on Wall Street isn’t usually the most popular guy in the room.

    I’ve said this elsewhere. I think Romney is an above average pick, but he is not the best one. If Romney is the pick, then the choice should be sooner rather than later, mainly because the money he could raise has to be used before the convention.

    • kyle8

      I don’t think that being the running mate on a closely lost ticket will sully anyones reputation, only give them more name recognition.

  • IJB

    I don’t buy that Romney helps with conservatives (that is something that Fred Thompson would do). But Romney makes no difference to guys like me – it makes me no more, or no less likely, the vote for McCain.

    (Aside: And this is a place where Huckabee would really hurt – there are I think tons of conservatives who would not vote for McCain under any circumstance if Huckabee is the VP. McCain might as well pick Ron Paul under those circumstances…)

    I also don’t buy that Romney would be any help in Colorado, Nevada, or New Hampshire (or Ohio, but that’s OK as I don’t think McCain needs help to win OH).

    However, I disagree with Adam on one thing – Romney would help shore up McCain’s economic credentials.

    Overall, I’m as not enthused by Romney as I was during the primary. He would not be my VP choice, unless it is unequivocal that Romney would tie down Michigan for McCain.

    Bottom Line: Romney – doesn’t hurt, doesn’t help.

    • NightTwister

      Choosing Romney for VP would solidify CO for McCain. Romney is extremely popular here.

      • NightTwister

        The most important factor with Romney is that he is the most qualified to take over from day one should that be necessary.

  • aceintx

    1) Despite spending a huge chunk of his fortune trying to get the nomination he couldn’t close the deal. Huckabee finished with more delegates than Romney despite being outspent in exponential numbers.

    2)There is great ill will towards Romney with the base because of his scorched earth attacks on the other candidates. We’re stuck with Johny Mac who ran such a pitiful campaign that he was written off for dead largely thanks to Romney’s disingenuous and hateful kneecapping of any Republican Candidate that showed any signs of life during the Primaries.

    3) His johnny come lately conversion to Conservative issues is hard for large swaths of the base skeptical with many out right disbelieving his genuine conversion!

    4)He comes across as phony and plastic in interviews constantly repeating memorized phrases much as Al Gore did in 2000.

    5)He brings no excitement to the ticket. the distrust that many have of him does nothing to excite the base which is McCain’s biggest problem at the moment.

    Finally…4 to 8 years of McCain and his Rockefeller elitism is hard enough to swallow without adding the prospect of another 4 to eight years taking us into 2024 before Conservatives would have anything to be excited about!

    McCain needs to excite the base and drive Conservatives, (especially SoCons) to the polls and Romney would disappoint and drive down the enthusiasm that McCain so badly needs!

    In short:

    NO DEAL!!!

    • aceintx

      NT

      • aceintx

        I don’t buy that Romney helps with conservatives (that is something that Fred Thompson would do). But Romney makes no difference to guys like me – it makes me no more, or no less likely, the vote for McCain.

        (Aside: And this is a place where Huckabee would really hurt – there are I think tons of conservatives who would not vote for McCain under any circumstance if Huckabee is the VP. McCain might as well pick Ron Paul under those circumstances…)

        While I agree he doesn’t help with Conservatives…I would say he fits your description in parenthesis. As Huckabee would make many decide against McCain…So Romney would do with many SoCons.

        My difference with you is a quibble but it’s an important one…Romney not only doesn’t help…he could hurt McCain’s chances in November.

        • NightTwister

          I take exception with your number 1, however. Huck only has more delegates because he stayed in long after everyone knew it was over. He picked up some protest votes along the way, and still didn’t overcome Romney if you count the Michigan delegates that were taken from him after he suspended his campaign.

          I’ve said for some time that Romney probably isn’t the best choice for VP because there are at least as many negatives as positives.

          If find it very interesting that just as in the primary, there is no one single candidate that really stands out here. I continue to wonder what that means for the Republican party. Is that that we have so many great candidates that no one stands out, or is that we have no great candidates?

          • aceintx

            Huckabee cleaned Romney’s clock in the south and I would argue his drubbing there made it clear that he is unacceptable to SoCons and more traditional southern voters.

            What good does picking up a few western states with thin electoral college delegate counts do if you lose TX, LA, MS, AL, GA, NC, SC, and TN?

          • aceintx

            What you say is true…but my point is true as well…the fact that Huckebee was even close to Romney despite being outspent by a factor in the 100s speaks to Romney’s weakness whether Huckabee legitimately took more delegates or not.

            Your second point is troublesome for me as well…I’m not sure that the problem is that we don’t have good candidates to choose from…the problem is they are a couple of years off from being seasoned enough to take top positions!

          • Doc_Holliday

            Romney would be much preferred to the Huckster. Romney is serious about being president, the Huckster is auditioning for a cable tv show. The south is not going to vote against McCain because of Romney. If we win MI this thing is over imo.

          • NightTwister

            …and I believe it is, then there are really only two choices. Romney and Giuliani, and I would be very happy with either of them.

          • aceintx

            The problem I see is that the big league hitters wouldn’t tie the McCain millstone around their necks.

            What really hacks me off is that our best and brightest sat out the primaries just like the NRSC and NRCC are doing today because they’ve believed the hype that this is a referendum on Bush and the incumbent party always looses the follow on election and the congress is automatically going to loose blah blah blah…so why try…

            So here we are looking at a Democrat Congress with approval ratings at 9%, standing in the way of increasing domestic production of our energy which has a 75% approval rating amongst the voting public, and Boener stands up the other day and says there are no plans to, nor is there any reason to nationalize this election and whining about the bad climate for Republicans WAA WAA WAAA!!!

            These AXXholes need to quit reading the conventional wisdom and work to prove it wrong. Every single Republican including McCain on every single TV and radio appearance, Speech and press conference needs to be endlessly harping on the Dem Congress and what they’re doing and stop sniveling about how they should all be running for cover if they have an R by their name!

          • aceintx

            My point is that Romney isn’t palatable to southern traditionalist voters…they don’t trust him…the used car salesman thing has become cliche’ but it has validity…Cliche’s become cliche’s because they have an element of truth in them…Romney comes off as and has always came off as a used car salesman…he hasn’t overcome that and I doubt he ever will…

            Southerners have a built in BS meter and Romney certainly sets off mine and many in my circle of friends.

            I know Romney’s your guy Doc…and I mean no disrespect…but Romney would be one of the worse possible choices out of those currently being mentioned as VP possibles IMHO

          • NightTwister

            I can’t think of any VP choice, including Romney that would cause him to lose here. I think you’re really reaching.

          • Dave_in_Fla

            And I disagree with every one of these points. Number 3 in particular bothers me. We in the Pro Life movement are TRYING to convert people to our philosophy. Rommney can point to the exact date, time, and reason of his conversion. Treating converts with distrust and anger is hardly a good way to build the movement.

            I’m not going to go into the others, and just leave it that my opinion is the polar opposite of yours.

          • gamecock

            Mitt will not hurt McCain in the South. Mitt could have won SC and the nomination if he hadn’t worn out his welcome in Iowa and had campaigned harder in NH and SC.

            more later

            I wrote a lot of blogs on this back in the day. I saw Mitt in SC twice and the signature quote was from a baptist preacher I spoke to after a Mitt speech:

            He’s a better Baptist than Baptists.

          • aceintx

            and many SoCons don’t…that’s the point.

            You misread me of you think I’m angry…I could be wrong and hope I am about his conversion on the life issue…But I’m not ready to bet the farm based on his word…the only anger I and many like me feel toward him would be because of his scorched earth attacks against the other candidates in the race.

            I forgot about his multi billion dollar promise to bail out Michigan which further makes me doubt his commitment to fiscal conservatism.

            Finally…all my points are about not only me…or not me at all on some points…but on well known objections to him going back to the primaries. You may not like them but they are out there and I stand by my contention that his nomination as McCain’s VP would seal the deal for me and others in that I won’t stand by for 4 to 8 years of John McCain only to be followed by another 4 to 8 years of Romney and I know there are millions out there like me!

          • aceintx

            it’s really as simple as that…his promise of a multi billion dollar bailout of Detroit is another objection as well…

            I really believe he would do McCain more harm than good and even if he doesn’t do harm, he doesn’t do anything to excite the base which is really my point when it’s all distilled down to the bottom line.

            Again…that’s my opinion…if McCain nominates him..we’ll see if I was right.

          • aceintx

            SoCon base accept McCain.

          • aceintx

            Again…that’s my opinion…if McCain nominates him..we’ll see if I was right.

            It wouldn’t be the first time I had to eat a plate of crow…on the other hand…I’m told Gamecock is kind of gamy…but I’ll eat anything once…

            LOL

            :>)

          • gamecock

            earn more trust by being a conservative longer to get the top spot, but given we picked a nominee that’s old and that can’t be trusted on many issues, I just think Mitt looks better by comparison as a VP and that the trust issue is diminished.

            But I could be wrong.

            I want Ashcroft, Watts or Pence before Mitt.

          • gamecock

            in Arkansas as we speak.

          • BlackRepub

            Hopefully, not to threadjack, I will be able to actually post this time, as I got the error message the last time that I bothered and I got frustrated with the site.
            Ace, for you my friend I of course have to reply to why Mitt should be the VP.
            1. Because it won’t be Rudy as it should be.
            2.Mitt’s alleged Michigan bailout is overplayed. Mitt promised to devote billions into research in the auto industry-he didn’t personally promise the Big 3 20 billion bucks of a handout. Research into improving the automotive industry at a time when people are getting killed at the pump? Sounds good to me and to every other American paying 4 somebody for gas.
            3.Mitt is a dignified attack dog. He’s got some zips and zingers without sounding as ugly as HuckaBS. We’re going to need someone to go after Obamarama and Mitt’s got the credibility, smoothness, and conservativism to go after the Defeatotraitorcrats by the huevos.
            4. Come on ace-you were willing to give the nod to Huckabee in the primary-Romney is 20000 times as conservative as Huckabee and you and I both know it-the newly converted are the most eager. If Romney’s actions even after the primaries haven’t convinced you I don’t know what will man, but trust me, he’s one of us. That is all, except for Hook Em. :-)

          • aceintx

            LOL

          • aceintx

            we picked a nominee that’s old and that can’t be trusted on many issues I just think Mitt looks better by comparison as a VP and that the trust issue is diminished.

            We can’t trust McCain…and maybe you’re right…the trust issue is diminished where Romney is concerned…but diminished doesn’t equal eliminated…and that doubt is lurking at that back of my…and many other’s minds…is he good enough to be VP?…I would say yes…if 2012, 2016 and 2020, weren’t taken into account as factors since he’d be the next in line…but they can’t be ignored if the long term health of the Party is of any concern. Who knows…I might even be on his bandwagon in 2012 if he can prove his conversion to be real…but all that is irrelevant when all things are considered because McCain needs to knock it out of the park with his VP pick to excite his base and Romney’s excitement factor is tepid at best…

          • aceintx

            First off…I’ve disavowed my support for Huckabee as a bad choice amongst a bunch of bad choices and he’s proven himself fo a fool since bowing out so let’s leave it at that where Huckabee is concerned.

            As to the bailout of Detroit…since I know you profess yourself to be a federalist…is it your position that the Federal Government should be in the business of propping up an industry with training programs or R&D? I didn’t know such a position was Federalist…I guess I’ll need to go back and study on that some…:>)

            I can’t argue with your point about his attack dog status…in fact that’s one thing that is quantifiable about him…and I pointed it out in my other posts…the problem is, he cut his teeth on the entire Republican field. When he couldn’t close the deal…the only one left standing was the current nominee…and I won’t bore you with my thoughts about him because you know where I stand there. My opposition to him as VP isn’t personal except on this one point. the rest of my argument which I keep making over and over is that McCain needs more than anything to excite his base and Romney doesn’t do that.

            I don’t know why people like Rush, Sean and Laura keep singing his praises when spending tens of millions of dollars of his own money couldn’t get him nominated…how does he help the ticket if he’s #2?

          • aceintx

            Say hay to Mrs. BR for me will ya?

            :>)

          • BlackRepub

            Michigan has been run into the ground by Granholm, Kwame, Stabenow, and Levin, to the point where there is absolutely nothing here. The best way to deal with Michigan is realistically, in the fact that the state is in need of a federal bailout because the state has handled itself with a measure of such incompetence that it needs the federal government to help correct it’s tragedy. That is not federalism as much as it is the reality of the state that I am living in for the next 11 months. The economy’s down the crapper in every single way, and a shot in the arm is something folks down here will take anyway we can get it.

            Romney excites the base because he made his bed and continues to make his bed with conservatives. You and I have the same feelings about our Fearless nominee, but Romney is viewed to have the executive and overall expertise that he will not be the one that screws conservatives. (That will be a matter for the top of the ticket, but of course I digress ;-) ) Here’s the main case, ace. I look around at the possible nominees, and other than Bobby J, who has flat out said he doesn’t want the job, who else is going to give you the conservative leadership and mantle in 2012? Pawlenty bores me and I think that Fiorna reeks of affirmative action, which leaves us with ::yawn:: Pawlenty, a Al Gore worshiper in his own right, and a crap and trade supporter of McCain’s. Not someone I want on the ticket. Romney is the most conservative person who can be on the ticket this year.

          • aceintx

            there’s still Fred Thompson, Palin, Coburn, Demint, on the currently active scene. There are others that are unemployed right now such as Tommy Thompson, Engler, Jeb Bush(probably not a good choice because of his name). How about pulling out a dark horse from the Contract With America years like Dick Armey or pushing hard to get J.C. Watts to come back and work his magic?

            My issues with Romney are not insurmountable if he runs 4 or 8 years from now but as VP Pick, I don’t see the benefit…He’s not exciting, he’s distrusted by a large swath of Conservatives and there is still bad blood out there based on his kneecapping of the rest of the field and sticking us with McCain.

            As for your departure from Conservatism on behalf of your state…it is a departure no matter how you rationalize it…but hey…we’re not perfect are we?

            at least I know I’m not!

            :>)

          • Flagstaff

            but this makes no sense to me:

            “…there is still bad blood out there based on his [Romney's] kneecapping of the rest of the field and sticking us with McCain.”

            The voters of South Carolina and several other states “stuck us with McCain.” Romney didn’t do it. You might as well blame Huckabee for getting all the good press before he lost out.

            And “distrusted by a large swath of Conservatives” must be true, because you keep saying it. But it doesn’t make any sense at all to spurn someone who is trying to join you and let someone else who is anathema to you waltz into office.

            I wouldn’t count on all those disgruntled Hillary voters to stay home or vote for Mac, either. The ‘Crats seem to be much more pragmatic about winning elections than we do.

          • gamecock

            Ashcroft
            Pence
            Watts

          • Josh_Painter

            having lived most of my 63 years in Lousiana, Texas and Arkansas… and I believe Romney’s conversion is real. Fred Thompson was my first choice for the top spot on the ticket, and he’s made no secret that he’s not interested in being vp.

            Furthermore, I think Fred should get most of the credit for Romney seeing the light. I watched Romney closely during the debates, and whenever Fred would speak, I got the impression that Mitt felt he was learning at the feet of The Master. I didn’t see that from Mitt when any of his other opponents were making their cases. Nort only what Fred said during the debates, but his blog posts, radio scripts and op eds seem to have had considerable influence on Romney.

            Romney’s concession speech when he dropped out was the best statement for the cause of conservatism that I have heard during this election season, and that includes Fred’s brilliant 17-minute video message to Iowans. Mitt said many of the same things Fred said, but he said them much more succinctly and forcefully. Keep in mind thiat this is from a dyed-in-the-wool Fredhead.

            No one has been harder on Romney than I was during the primaries before Fred retired. I hit Mitt pretty hard on my blogs for Fred. But, again, I believe that Romney has finally become a conservative because he finally understands conservatism and conservatives for the first time in his life.

            Anyway, I’m just one of many Southern conservatives for whom Mitt wasn’t our first choice, but he will be a more than acceptable choice as a running mate for McCain. After all, McCain wasn’t our first choice, either. ;-)

            We’re having to settle for quite a lot this election, but a pro-abortion, gun-grabbing Giuliani and a tax-raising nanny-stater like Huckabee are two that most socons will never settle for, IMO.

            -JP

  • ConservativeDemocrat

    As much as Romney would be a useful fundraising tool, he can still do this without being the veep candidate. I think that Mac should pick somebody like Mark Sanford or Bobby Jindal, both southern governors younger but more experienced than Obama.

  • Mark_Kilmer

    I’ll buy the fundraising thing, which might trump everything else, but Romney will not be acceptable to conservatives. At least not to all of us.

    It would be a start, and barely one, if he apologized for smearing Ronald Reagan, but… I will vote for John McCain. McCain/Romney was not what I had in mind, or in my right wing heart-of-hearts, last year at this time, but if that is what it is, then it is what we have.

  • BigGator5

    For McCain to pick Romney or Huckabuck, would move me to the uncommitted status.

    McCain could pick cheese as his running mate and I will still vote for him, but not those two!!!

    • SteveLA

      Mark

      With fear of becoming a Romney Bot (I’m not), what was the smear of Ronnie, something in the primary I assume?

      • SteveLA

        President Bush can pardon Jim Trafficant and he can can parties run….lots of fun!

        Beam me up Scotty…..LOL

        • NightTwister

          Apparently your support isn’t as solid as you’ve made it out to be.

          • simpson316

            Hypocrisy at it’s finest.

  • Hermes

    No matter whom John McCain chooses as his running mate, this election is a referendum on Barack Obama. We can argue who is and who is not a more appealing figure to (insert favorite Republican pressure group), but the fact of the matter is the man at the top of the (R) ticket inspires no one. This is not to say that he is a bad man; on the contrary, I think McCain has a certain strength of character, fortitude, and stubborn determination that are very attractive. Unfortunately, the US electorate decided that character didn’t matter back in 1992. So, again, this election basically comes down to how much the public likes and trusts Barack Obama. McCain’s VP choice will matter about as much as Obama’s. Which is to say: not at all.

    • BigGator5

      I’ve only spoken out against people who try to tear down party unity by attacking Moderates… unprovoked.

      I also don’t see the hypocrisy in not wanting Romney or Huckabuck as McCain’s VP. I would much rather see Tim Pawlenty (a proven conservative by the way) as his VP choice.

      • David_Hinz

        Trafficant! For a Dem he made great sense.

        Beam Me Up Scotty!

        • BlackRepub

          Cap and Trade, Al Gore worshipping, big stadium funding conservative? That one? The one that will go along with your best buddy Johnny Mac on every tax increase that McCain plans to level on us from McCains own mouth that tax increases aren’t off the table. But I’m glad Romney’s proven economic record turns you off-its shows you and McCain are in the same camp of not knowing anything about the economy, the most important issue this year. Good to know the idiocy is still alive and well in the rank and file of the Party.

  • egnahc08

    regardless of his VP. I don’t trust Obama regardless of his VP.

    • aceintx

      again…after everything I’ve said in this thread…after all the discussion about my problems with Romney…it all comes down to trust…I simply don’t trust the man…that may change with time…but right now…that’s the bottom line for me…Had I to do it over again…and I think most Republicans would have united around Fred as a consensus candidate…after Fred dropped out I could have supported Mitt simply as a McCain spoiler….but not because I trusted him…just because he’s the lesser of two evils…As time goes on…and if Mitt can prove his conversion to be real…I could see myself leading the bandwagon for him….but not now.

      But where your original post is concerned…all of that is irrelevant.
      I still maintain that McCain needs to knock it out of the park with his nominee…and Romney is anything but out of the park…I’d call him a line drive down the third base line…good for a single maybe…I’ve listed his negatives so I’ll only repeat the main and most important one here and that is that despite spending a vast amount of his own fortune he couldn’t seal the deal because so many couldn’t or wouldn’t trust him…that hasn’t changed. he doese nothing to help McCain with his base where he is weakest…he’s just the wrong guy IMHO…that’s all I can say!

      • aceintx

        .

        • aceintx

          I’l end the discussion there but I can’t ignore the irony.

          • aceintx

            because we fought amongst ourselves so much we let Judas in the tent. My point isn’t that Romney has his problems for the top of the ticket which I would argue he does…my point remains that he does nothing to excite the base and could even hurt McCain with the base…therefore…he’s a bad choice for McCain.

          • Flagstaff

            Did you know you can really “recommend” this by clicking on the line just below the “comment count” under the title?

            I think you have to be logged in first.

          • Flagstaff

            as you usually do.

  • ladyofcarlisle

    McCain needs someone fresh, authentic and well-spoken who can connect with average voters. Sarah Palin, John Thune, Mark Sanford. If he picks Romney, that would put off Huckabee supporters and if he picks Huckabee well, I’d be shocked if he asks Huckabee. Although I haven’t seen eye to eye with Gov. Tim Pawlenty on a few issues; if he really could broaden the GOP appeal to those potential “Sam’s Club Republicans” and possibly deliver MN, I would take it. YMMV.

    • Flagstaff

      4 to 8 years of McCain and his Rockefeller elitism is hard enough to swallow without adding the prospect of another 4 to eight years taking us into 2024 before Conservatives would have anything to be excited about!

      So, you don’t think it would be good to keep the ‘Crats out of the White House for 16 years? (^;^)

      Actually, I think Romney is the most likely to remain strong on conservative principles of any of them, including McCain and Giuliani. I would only trust Fred Thompson more. All of Mitt’s attitude adjustments have been in the right direction–and we can’t say that of McCain yet, can we? Romney has always been right on immigration, and he’s been right on energy, too.

      I also dispute your item #4:

      He comes across as phony and plastic in interviews constantly repeating memorized phrases much as Al Gore did in 2000.

      I would agree that he appeared that way early in the primaries, but by the time he left he had his tendency to want to respond to each question with all his answers under control; in fact, he was much better than Rudy by the final debate–Rudy was still trying to tie all his answers to 9/11.

      Once Mitt slowed his delivery down, his humanity came through quite clearly to me, and I think to many others, too.

      Finally, I don’t understand this. Literally.

      We’re stuck with Johny Mac who ran such a pitiful campaign that he was written off for dead largely thanks to Romney’s disingenuous and hateful kneecapping of any Republican Candidate that showed any signs of life during the Primaries.

      But, assuming that you mean it was effective, that’s exactly what has to be done to Obama–a direct assault on his veracity in plain and forceful English.

      • Oz

        but I know a lot of conservative southern baptists who didn’t trust Romney because of not only his late conversion to conservatism but his religious affiliation.

        Suffice it to say that Hannity and Rush have cleaned his conservative robes with most of those people and at the end, they were disappointed that Romney left and gave McCain the job when he could have fought on.

        I think that MOST will be supportive of a McCain/Romney ticket although some will need to be reminded of Obama.

        • Oz

          I’ll keep my predictable rant short …

          Fiorina is famous for running two companies into the ground, nothing more, nothing less — oh and she’s a woman.

          She is a great BS-er She can’t accomplish very much at all except climbing corporate ladders.

          I was here (at HP) and I know of what I speak.

          It’s scary to me that is even in the room with McCain. She will be beloved by the absolute free traders because she is the ultimate off-shorer.

  • jimmuy8

    Are there such numbers in swing states to matter?

    If the VP choice is of any importance, then it must be to aid in states that can be flipped. Romney can help in those states, few other possibilities can. Huckabee, I suspect, actually hurts him in those type of states–the GOP already has a bad rep among the media and many swing voters as too beholden to the religious, Huckabee would rub that in their face.

    Romney would hurt McCain in states that have no chance of going for Obama, the Southern states. Kind of a tradeoff: competitive in more swing states and a personal war chest but, angers the religious and diminished fund-raising in the South.

    • ladyofcarlisle

      I read today in the WSJ where once again McCain blew a chance to favorably contrast himself with Obama on Social Security taxes. McCain has had some real opportunities here and everytime I begin to really root for him, he says something to turn me off. Cap and trade, the federal government must DO something about the cliamte change crisis mantra, taxes, class warfare, even foreign policy where Obama wants to escalate the war in Afganistan–that doesnt’ seem to bother his flock. Does McCain even have the fire in the belly?? This sure isn’t ’80 or ’94 or even 00 or 04. Thank God for Mitch McConnell and Rush Limbaugh..fearless and sharp.

  • James_Reynolds

    I think He would be great He offsetts the black vote pulls in fiscal conservatives and the evangelical vote. Have’nt heard him mention though as a possible candidate

    • ladyofcarlisle

      I read today in the WSJ where once again McCain blew a chance to favorably contrast himself with Obama on Social Security taxes. McCain has had some real opportunities here and everytime I begin to really root for him, he says something to turn me off. Cap and trade, the federal government must DO something about the cliamte change crisis mantra, taxes, class warfare, even foreign policy where Obama wants to escalate the war in Afganistan–that doesnt’ seem to bother his flock. Does McCain even have the fire in the belly?? This sure isn’t ’80 or ’94 or even 00 or 04. Thank God for Mitch McConnell and Rush Limbaugh..fearless and sharp.

      • James_Reynolds

        why isn’t watts being furhter discussed as possible vp he would do alot split black votes pull in more fiscal votes and solidify evangelicals

  • E_Pluribus_Unum

    Then there’s the old ‘people don’t like him’ counter. There’s no counter for that counter.

    He spent bazillions of dollars trying to get Republicans to like him, and barely bumped the results. He’s not going to do better with the middle.

    • asleep06

      nt

  • asleep06
    1. I like when people learn better political beliefs and favor better policies. But recent converts should not be given policy-making leadership positions. That’s unwise, especially when such converts have penchants for universal govt healthcare, top-down mandates, and govt subsidies as solutions for local problems.

    2. If you’re going to give him a leadership position, give him the RNC chair. It’ll give his politics time to mature while best using his formidable managerial and development talents. This seems a no-brainer.

    3. Very, very large swaths of regular Americans just don’t like or trust Romney, for good and bad reasons–and more importantly, those feelings will not change this political season. They just won’t vote for the guy, as signified by his failure in primaries in contrast to his success in caucuses. Fortunately, this isn’t as big of a deal for a VP slot since the P slot is so much more important. But it doesn’t help.

    So, we know we need 1) votes and 2) money. Romney can get us 2 but not 1. So let’s put him in the position to best utilize his talents.

    Let’s not stick a guy from the Northeast with a guy from the West, both of whom with questionable conservative records, and expect people to say that’s the best choice.

  • paulseale

    Romney gets the VP spot and its over. Alseep 06 puts its best.

    Very, very large swaths of regular Americans just don’t like or trust Romney, for good and bad reasons–and more importantly, those feelings will not change this political season. They just won’t vote for the guy, as signified by his failure in primaries in contrast to his success in caucuses. Fortunately, this isn’t as big of a deal for a VP slot since the P slot is so much more important. But it doesn’t help.

    Here in fly over country and those I speak to know Romney as a slick politician who knows the right rings to kiss in certain GOP cicrcles.

    Whether people like it or not. Whether its right or not, this is way many people here in fly over country see it.

    As much as I like reading stuff on NRO (k-lo specifically); they are dead wrong on this issue.

    Call people names, play the same game that Democrats do to us normal folk all you want, but that doesnt help stop Obama one bit.

  • Nick_Haynes

    I think Romney would be an incredible VP (and an incredible POTUS), but my one concern would be some of the SoCon’s. Don’t get me wrong-I was able to convert several over from the Huckster here in MO, but they were my friends who trusted my judgement, and they were tepid at best, worried about the fact that Huckabee couldn’t win and McCain is…well, he’s McCain. They had the (unfounded) suspicion that Romney is playing the conservative pommel-horse to his own benefit. And I have the suspicion that many more will be leery of him (unfortunately) because of his religion.

    I would want McCain to select Romney, but absent of that, it should be:

    1.) Sarah Palin-location doesn’t help or hurt, conservatives would trust her, and having a female on the ticket would possibly help to woo female voters who feel as if the Church of Obama has left them; or

    2.) Mark Sanford-helps Southern voters who might be leery of McCain, and keeps an important region in the fold.

    That’s really about it. Jindal needs time to ferment a little bit and wear the mantle of executive experience before we unleash his greatness. DeMint and Coburn bring conservative credentials, but DeMint and Coburn lack excitement and dynamism, have no executive experience, are tied to the 9% Congress, and would stoke the fires of the far-left (which I like to do, but we need to keep them as docile as possible, and Romney/Palin/Sanford wouldn’t rile them too much). Besides, Coburn has a history of saying things which could easily put the campaign in more trouble than needed-and this is coming from someone who puts Coburn on a pedestal.

    • Dan_McLaughlin

      Really, you are not likely to see a more moderate Republican nominated in our lifetimes than McCain. If you are prepared to bolt McCain over him picking Mitt or Huck – both of whom have themselves taken many moderate stances at times in their careers – you are a Moderate In Name Only.

      • SteveLA

        n/t

        • gamecock

          2

  • FrustratedSouthernLady

    Besides all those wonderful points, McCain could use Romney to give all his speeches. I love John, but we need a orator! He could put Obama in the shade. I can’t believe this great country could fall prey to a silver tongue spouting words he never wrote and having them think he is “sent down”. Please get Mr Romney, Mr.McCain!!

    • aceintx

      I would have supported him as a stop McCain candidate…but that’s as far as it goes.

      leaving my objections aside about his last minute conversion and his bif brother bailout of the auto industry, and his slash and burn campaign against the Republican field which cleared the way for McCain, I still fall back on my original argument which no one has refuted and that was that he does nothing to excite the base…is he acceptable…maybe for some…but does he excite the base? Does he do anything to answer the concerns many have about McCain’s shortcomings?

      I would say unequivocally; no!

      • aceintx

        NT

        • aceintx

          nt

          • aceintx

            Well done!

          • Josh_Painter

            Isn’t that how we got into this McCain mess in the first place? We conservatives split our support among Thompson, Romney, Huckabee and some lower-tier candidates, and we wound up with McCain.

            • JP
          • bs

            5

            Carly’s thinking third time’s a charm, apparently. Hopefully it won’t be the trifecta.