Remember when conservatives were winning?


Remember when conservatives were conservatives? In the Reagan years, the time of the only conservative American president in the modern era, one was a conservative, not a fiscon, neocon, socon, paleocon or any other kind of con. In fact, “con” was used by liberals as a term of contempt for conservatives, never by conservatives in self-reference.

How times have changed. Some of the issues Ronald Reagan had to deal with have changed, but the need for conservatives to unite behind his principles has not. There is no argument that the most successful Republican president of the twentieth century was conservative on matters of national security, fiscal responsibility and limited government. But some tend to forget that Reagan was also conservative on social issues. Today, with libertarian and social wings of the conservative movement at each others’ throats, Ronald Reagan would be appalled at how the coalition he built has managed to divide itself.

It is true that Reagan, as pro-choicers claim, signed a therapeutic abortion bill as California governor in 1967. But he signed it reluctantly and regretted doing so for the rest of his life. He increasingly became an outspoken opponent of the grisly practice:

Reagan “agonized” over the legislation, recalled former aide Edwin Meese, and took a week out of his schedule to talk to doctors, clergymen and psychiatrists about the issue.

Reagan came to regret signing the bill, Meese said, primarily because the number of abortions skyrocketed in California under the rubric of protecting the “mental health” of women. Within a year, Reagan said the law was a mistake.

Years later, when conservatives were casting around for an alternative to Gerald R. Ford for the 1976 GOP nomination, Reagan made increasingly strong statements of opposition to abortion.

His conversion helped position him as a darling of the Republican right and contributed to his surprisingly strong, if unsuccessful, showing in the GOP primary against Ford, who supported abortion rights.

By the time he ran for the White House a second time, Reagan was a clear champion of anti-abortion forces.

In an address to a convention of evangelicals in 1983, one which came to be known more for his reference to the “Evil Empire” than his remarks on social issues, Reagan argued against abortion and the high court decision which, even two decades after he left office, continues to facilitate the gruesome procedure:

More than a decade ago, a Supreme Court decision literally wiped off the books of fifty states statutes protecting the rights of unborn children. Abortion on demand now takes the lives of up to one and a half million unborn children a year. Human life legislation ending this tragedy will someday pass the Congress, and you and I must never rest until it does. Unless and until it can be proven that the unborn child is not a living entity, then its right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness must be protected.

Though he agonized over his decision not to save a convicted murderer from execution, Reagan was also firm in his support of the death penalty:

On April 11, 1967, opponents of capital punishment held an all-night vigil outside Governor Reagan’s house to protest his refusal to grant clemency to Aaron Mitchell, sentenced to death for the murder of a Sacramento policeman. Reagan later said it the worst decision he had to make. Mitchell was executed at 10 AM the following day in San Quentin’s gas chamber.

This was the only execution carried out in California during Reagan’s 8 years as governor. Reagan granted clemency in the one other capital case that came to him, on the basis of evidence that the condemned man had a history of brain damage.

Reagan had been bitterly disappointed when the judge he had named to head the California Supreme Court wrote the decision striking down the state’s capital punishment statute after Reagan had left the Governor’s office.

There was also much more to Reagan’s anti-drug policy than he is given credit for:

Reagan was serious about reducing the scourge of drugs, and the efforts of his administration went well beyond Nancy Reagan’s “just say no” campaign. The Justice Department involved the FBI in the fight against drugs, added five hundred Drug Enforcement Administration agents, established thirteen regional anti-drug task forces and chalked up record numbers of drug seizures and convictions. But the magnitude of the drug problem was at least as great when Reagan left office as when he entered it.

The importance of values to Ronald Reagan, as expressed in his farewell address, should never be forgotten:

“I never thought it was my style or the words I used that made a difference: it was the content. I wasn’t a great communicator, but I communicated great things, and they didn’t spring full bloom from my brow, they came from the heart of a great nation-from our experience, our wisdom, and our belief in the principles that have guided us for two centuries. They called it the Reagan revolution. Well, I’ll accept that, but for me it always seemed more like the great rediscovery, a rediscover of our values and our common sense.“

Despite his socially conservative views, however, Ronald Reagan considered libertarian principles to be essential to conservatism:

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path.

What happened to the Reagan coalition to divide libertarians and social conservatives so? After Reagan, with no strong across-the-board conservative to hold the factions together, both libertarians and social conservatives stopped thinking of themselves as simply conservative.

Some social conservatives began to focus on their opposition to abortion above all else, and they didn’t show the same outrage over the growth of the federal monster and the unbridled spending binge a drunken Republican Party went on in the post-Reagan years. It is understandable how important the sanctity of life is to some in this group, but they seem to have become afflicted with a tunnel vision which blinds them to issues beyond abortion. Libertarian conservatives and some fiscal conservatives have come to resent them for it.

Some libertarians in the years since Reagan have become more focused on personal liberty than on the size of government or fiscal restraint, putting them more at odds with the social conservatives. Without a strong leader like Ronald Reagan to keep making the case for smaller government and less spending, many libertarians have lost interest in the conservative cause.

Both sides blame each other. In truth, there is plenty of blame to go around. All factions of Reagan’s coalition deserve their share. Some are driven by what they see as the need for the U.S. to export its flavor of democracy to a world they feel is starving for it. They couldn’t care less about such mundane matters as government spending, the federal colossus and the right of life, once sparked into existence, to continue. Others believe that as long as taxes are low, any other government abuses are tolerable. This madness has to stop.

Libertarians, you have more to fear from from government in the hands of liberals who want to design your next car, program your local radio stations and save you from yourselves than you do from those conservatives who fight for the rights of the unborn.

Values conservatives, put your energies into working to have decisions on life and marriage made closer to home. When the voters decide these matters at the state level, they are more likely to rule in your favor than are federal judges and justices. Please channel some of your enthusiasm into the fight your conservative brethren are waging against big government and fiscal irresponsibility.

Conservatives, if you don’t agree with some issues other factions of the conservative movement hold dear, please at least try to respect where they are coming from. Remember that we all have more in common than what sets us apart. The bottom line for conservatives is that we need one another. When the liberals get moderates and independents on their side, we’re outnumbered. It’s past time to stop beating each other up. That only serves the liberals and helps them advance their agenda.

- JP

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Josh, great column as usual, and the evil empire speech should be read monthly

Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, December 11th at 8:21PM EST (link)

In fact, of you took out the parts about the Soviet Union, it would still be the greatest speech ever given in the 20th century. Do you know that he also comments on the Baby Doe case which would make the Schiavo matter look like a liberal operation.

I can state unequivocally that the libertarians, and even more, the fiscal con country clubbers that never like Reagan are the ones that cause the rift, not social conservatives.

more later

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“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson

Mike, I appreciate your comment.

Josh Painter Thursday, December 11th at 8:39PM EST (link)

But I don’t care who started it. I’m only interested in sealing the rift. Finger-pointing, IMO, only serves to perpetuate the problem.

We need to put the pointless bickering behind us, as it only helps the political left, not any kind of conservatism that I know of.A bit of Linclon’s wisdom here would serve us well. We should take to heart his words when he paraphrased the Jesus from the scriptures: “A house divided against itself cannot stand,”

Best Regards,

- JP

“An armed society is a polite society” - Robert A. Heinlein, “Beyond This Horizon” (1942)

The bickerers are those that insult Palin as a cancer on the GOP

Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, December 11th at 9:04PM EST (link)

see Brooks

He can stop the bickering. “We” can’t. Its not a matter of the starters of “it”.

Its a matter of those that start and perpetuate it. We can’t make those that hate us, love us. When social conservatives defend Palin, it is not morally equivalent responsibility for division.

more later

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“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson

JP - I don't think that you understand

repobvoter1 Thursday, December 11th at 11:03PM EST (link)

Ingredients

* 1 (8-ounce) package cream cheese, softened
* 2 cups canned pumpkin, mashed
* 1 cup sugar
* 1/4 teaspoon salt
* 1 egg plus 2 egg yolks, slightly beaten
* 1 cup half-and-half
* 1/4 cup (1/2 stick) melted butter
* 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
* 1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
* 1/4 teaspoon ground ginger, optional
* 1 piece pre-made pie dough
* Whipped cream, for topping

Directions

Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F.

Place 1 piece of pre-made pie dough down into a (9-inch) pie pan and press down along the bottom and all sides. Pinch and crimp the edges together to make a pretty pattern. Put the pie shell back into the freezer for 1 hour to firm up. Fit a piece of aluminum foil to cover the inside of the shell completely. Fill the shell up to the edges with pie weights or dried beans (about 2 pounds) and place it in the oven. Bake for 10 minutes, remove the foil and pie weights and bake for another 10 minutes or until the crust is dried out and beginning to color.

For the filling, in a large mixing bowl, beat the cream cheese with a hand mixer. Add the pumpkin and beat until combined. Add the sugar and salt, and beat until combined. Add the eggs mixed with the yolks, half-and-half, and melted butter, and beat until combined. Finally, add the vanilla, cinnamon, and ginger, if using, and beat until incorporated.

Pour the filling into the warm prepared pie crust and bake for 50 minutes, or until the center is set. Place the pie on a wire rack and cool to room temperature. Cut into slices and top each piece with a generous amount of whipped cream.

Hi friend...

$peciallist Thursday, December 11th at 11:07PM EST (link)

and your back!

JadedByPolitics Thursday, December 11th at 11:25PM EST (link)

but less the cat eyes!

Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy

 

Is that Alice Cooper?

Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, December 11th at 11:34PM EST (link)

1

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson

No need for Rambo...someone is quick with the Recipe's..

$peciallist Friday, December 12th at 12:16AM EST (link)
 
 

Don't forget the thorazine, repobvoter1

Jack_Savage Thursday, December 11th at 11:38PM EST (link)

About a cup and a half in your case, I would imagine.

 
 
 

Sealing the rift

Kyle-MI Saturday, December 13th at 2:22AM EST (link)

You cannot seal the rift if there are some who are actively trying to pull the rift wider. I don’t think these are most people at the grassroots level, but there are some movers and shakers in the GOP who want neither social nor fiscal conservatism. They are concentrating on the social conservatives it is a point of friction in the conservative alliance. The most prominent example is Christine Todd Whitman. It takes both sides behaving themselves to maintain peace. It only take one side misbehaving to create war.

Unfortunately some (but not all and not a majority of) social conservatives have aided this rift by supporting big spending and fiscal irresponsibility. We social conservatives need to be policing our own and keeping our bad actors in line. I am thinking of pols such as former Senator Stevens and current Rep. Young. Not to pick on Alaska but they are examples that came immediately to mind. Any Republican on an appropriations committee needs special scrutiny.

 
 
 

Great Post

TxCon Thursday, December 11th at 8:22PM EST (link)

A true leader rallies all factions. We haven’t had one since Reagan.

 

Well Said

Mike Friesen Thursday, December 11th at 8:33PM EST (link)

Josh - Thank you for putting it so well. The challenge is to find the right balance that preserves and supports conservative (or whatever label you wish you to use) thought in general while respecting those with both overlapping and opposing views. We do seem to be spending more time in some quarters fighting each other than focusing our efforts on defeating the big-government, reduced-liberty crowd.

Best regards,
Mike

 

The social conservative movement became

Mark Kilmer Thursday, December 11th at 9:06PM EST (link)

politically active under Reagan. He was both a fiscal and a social conservative, and he was held in such esteem that he could keep both sides together for the general elections.

The Republican mind set should change. There are no “country club conservatives” or “Bible thumping SoCons” or whatever. The goal is the same, and both are intertwined.

I think the conservative writers can help bring these factions within a faction together, and that’s why we have to cast aside the crippling likes of Frum, Brooks, and that weird gal who used to write for the National Review magazine.

excellent Mark

mikeleader Sunday, December 14th at 8:12AM EST (link)

an important reminder that the goal is what’s important

mikeleader

 
 

Wonderful post

GB221 Thursday, December 11th at 9:16PM EST (link)

You are right in not caring whose fault the rift is, but it would be useful if each side clarified whether or not it sees itself as having drifted from Reagan’s views and, if so, why.

 

No doubt?

radamisto Thursday, December 11th at 9:36PM EST (link)

There is no argument that the most successful Republican president of the twentieth century was conservative on matters of national security, fiscal responsibility and limited government.

There is no doubt that Reagan sold arms to terrorists and tripled the National Debt.

There is no doubt you are an idiot

Jack_Savage Thursday, December 11th at 9:46PM EST (link)

Just buy a parrot that can type your boneheaded crap and you will save yourself some time.

You just can’t stand the fact that Ronald Reagan was at LEAST the greatest American President of the 20th century, can you?

Maybe so

Mike Gray Friday, December 12th at 12:16AM EST (link)

He may have been one of the greatest presidents, but it’s hardly fair to call him a fiscal conservative when the national debt tripled under his administration.

I think we may all get a little wrapped up at looking at his administration through rose-colored glasses sometimes. I’m guilty of it too, at times, but it’s no excuse to try and rewrite history just to lay claim to a great conservative legacy.

Hunting down the RINOs at rinosafari.com

 
 

Leon...can we get a ruling here???

Attack Mode Thursday, December 11th at 10:00PM EST (link)

n/t

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

 
 

This is a fine article.

Staunch_Libertarian Thursday, December 11th at 9:59PM EST (link)

While I don’t think we can concentrate too much on individual liberty, you strike true.

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I am a Positivist Pastafarian for the alliteration alone.

 

Thanks Josh... But...

roscopico Thursday, December 11th at 11:00PM EST (link)

to a large extent it seems liberty (freedom with responsibility), has been re-labeled with a term straight from Karl Marx. We fail every time someone uses the term “capitalism”. The problem is not between “socons” and “libertarians” per se…

The liberty codified in the constitution is the ideal; to “conservatives” and “libertarians” alike.
“Liberty” describes a life with value, sovereignty, and responsibility. “Capitalism” as a term (from the marxists) seeks to denote a singular motivation of greed. The marxists have succeeded mostly by giving Liberty a poor euphamism; calling everyone “capitalists” , claiming we need to “spread the wealth”.
Allow people to understand Liberty as opposed to the murderous history of socialism and there is no other choice.

Im Himmel gibt’s kein Bier…

 

Perhaps...

nikrall Thursday, December 11th at 11:11PM EST (link)

1 box cake mix (any flavor)

1 (12-ounce) container prepared icing (any flavor)

1 package almond bark (vanilla or chocolate)

Bake cake according to directions on box. After it cools, crumble it into a mixing bowl and mix in icing. Shape into balls, place on a cookie sheet and freeze until solid.

Meanwhile, melt bark accordinig to package directions.

After balls have frozen, dip in melted bark and place on cookie sheet, letting them sit until bark has set.

Wow...

nikrall Thursday, December 11th at 11:13PM EST (link)

2 cups milk

2 cups heavy cream

2 eggs, beaten

1 1/4 cup sugar

1/4 teaspoon salt

1 cup purée bananas

1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract

1/8 teaspoon nutmeg

In a saucepan, combine the milk, cream, eggs, sugar and salt. Cook and stir over low heat until mixture thickens slightly and coats the back of a spoon. Refrigerate the mixture until cool. Combine the cooled custard with the bananas, vanilla and nutmeg. Pour into freezer container. Freeze according to manufacturer’s instructions.

You might want to just leave now...n/t

Attack Mode Thursday, December 11th at 11:14PM EST (link)

.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

 
 
 

I agree, but...

Jim Thursday, December 11th at 11:24PM EST (link)

…there are some elements of the conservative movement, currently constituted, that do need to be rethought. Conservatives are all for national security, but does that mean gallivanting all over the world and having a military presence in over 100 countries? Conservatives are all for a healthy and strong culture, but does that mean injecting more power into the state by supporting things like “faith-based initiatives”? Conservatives are all for fiscal responsibility, but can the size and scope of government really be restrained when the same governement controls the spigot of money creation and can monetize debt in the Federal Reserve system?

I definitely agree with the national/local split and placing issues where the belong on that spectrum.

On a national level, libertarian principles are much more in line with national electoral successes. Truly and honestly holding to the principles laid out in the Constitution (especially the 10th amendment) means the Federal government is a rather boring and minuscule creature. And it should, if libertarians are honest, include the repeal of the wretched Roe v. Wade if for no other reason than it was decided blatantly unconstitutional.

The local level is where conservatives should, if the government legitimately has a role, emphasize the cultural issues. Even from a pragmatic standpoint, social issues can be more effectively won on the local level. Why waste time trying to get both Massachusetts and Alabama to agree on drug laws in the U.S. Congress? Work it out in the states!

“On the free market, everyone earns according to his productive value in satisfying consumer desires. Under statist distribution, everyone earns in proportion to the amount he can plunder from the producers.”
Murray Rothbard

Yes, Yes, probably, and maybe...

roscopico Friday, December 12th at 12:14AM EST (link)

but libertarians (and many “pseudo-cons” as well) missed the forest for the trees…
there is no shame in protecting your future. I maintain an insurance package for my family should something unfortunate happen to me… is it not prudent to ask our nation to be proactive w/r/t the rest of the world?
While ideally we should need no presence in places like the balkans, S.Korea, or even Iraq, there should be no illusion that we ARE necessary. Isolationism as a policy might work for a place like Anguilla, but the fact is the US is exceptional.
We are the last, best hope. May we conduct ourselves as such.

Im Himmel gibt’s kein Bier…

Non-Interventionist is not Isolationism...

Jim Friday, December 12th at 7:14AM EST (link)

roscopico,

Though I am sure there are some who want us to shut our borders and bury our heads in the sand, from my reading most libertarians want a strong national defense while at the same time not getting into matters around the world that do not concern us. It’s the Jeffersonian principle of “peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.” In many (certainly not all) places in the world the presence of McDonald’s and WalMart will do more to spread liberty and freedom than the full force of the U.S. Military possibly could.

“On the free market, everyone earns according to his productive value in satisfying consumer desires. Under statist distribution, everyone earns in proportion to the amount he can plunder from the producers.”
Murray Rothbard

 
 
 

Thanks for the reminder! Well said.

olsmithie Thursday, December 11th at 11:26PM EST (link)

Awesomely Excellent Post!!!

Whitehorse Friday, December 12th at 12:22AM EST (link)

Or should I say excellently awesome? Great post - we need to be conservatives, not hypenated conservatives. I posted about this on Rebuild the Party. http://rebuildtheparty.ning.com/profiles/blogs/conservatism-without-cliques

We need conservative Republicans that embrace all of it - strong national defense, fiscally responsible limited government conservatism, & conservative social values. As a package this platform is powerful - with a champion who can passionately communicate & promote it, it’s almost undefeatable.

 

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ecwoodrow Friday, December 12th at 10:27AM EST (link)

Great Post!

 

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