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Sarah Palin is still alive and well in Alaska

And she will not go quietly into the night.

There are those who wish to bury Sarah Palin, not praise her. Leftist Democrats, their drive-by media assassins and Republican backers of some of her potential opponents for leadership in the Republican Party have been pushing the meme that the former vice presidential candidate no longer has a future in national politics. They want to convince others that the governor’s political career has been ruined by the recent tug of war she has been engaged in with the Alaska legislature and the noisemaker tabloid media’s exploitation of some problems in her family and would-be in-laws.

If the foibles of politicians’ family members were career-killers, then Roger Clinton would have surely been the kiss of death for his brother. But even the millstone of a coke-dealing sibling couldn’t put the brakes on Bill Clinton’s bandwagon. Americans tend to be a forgiving people, and in Bill Clinton’s case, they were even willing to overlook his own sexploits and give him a second term. If having a brother who sells hard drugs doesn’t dim your star, having a cat burglar for a sister-in-law and a loose-lipped almost-son-in-law should not be that much of a long-term problem for Gov. Palin.

For a governor to have issues with a legislature is likewise not necessarily the stuff of ending a political career. Harry Truman won a stunning upset victory in the 1948 presidential election by railing against the “do-nothing” Congress, and sympathetic voters cheered him on, urging Harry to “give ‘em hell.” Alaskans may view their state lawmakers in the same light that Americans saw the eightieth Congress. The legislature has little to show for its session – only a handful of bills were passed of the literally hundreds which were introduced. In some respects this could be a good thing, but Alaska has serious intrastate energy issues, and the legislature failed to deal effectively with them.

The Alaska legislature’s rejection of the Palin nominee for Alaska attorney general and its tug of war with the governor over filling a vacant state Senate seat are hardly tantamount to being headed for the political graveyard. Indeed, the politically-motivated “tasergate” investigation of the governor, spearheaded by a state Senator who just happened to be a Democrat supporting Barack Obama and Joe Biden while Gov. Palin was running against that ticket, set a combative tone for the legislative session. That some of the old-boy-network Republicans sided with the Democrats against Palin was likewise no surprise. Some of that crowd had been looking for payback, and what better way to get it than with a trumped-up ethics complaint?

Gov. Palin compromised with the Democrats over the Senate seat before the legislative session ended, and she will simply appoint an attorney general in the interim well before the next one convenes. Though her home state approval ratings are down from their stratospheric highs of earlier days of her term, they remain at 60% or better, a percentage most other governors would consider enviable.

The governor could well borrow a phrase from Mark Twain, for the reports of her political demise are little more than wishful thinking on the part of those who have a vested interest in seeing the GOP foolishly stake its hopes on another McCain-ish opponent for President Obama three and a half years hence… or perhaps one that resembles Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty. To illustrate the point, we have the case of a rare breadcrumb of intellectual honesty falling from the media’s table this week. Kenneth T. Walsh, Chief White House correspondent for U.S. News & World Report, reported that Sarah Palin still enjoys strong support among conservatives, and some GOP insiders are saying that her future remains bright. That’s right, Paul Bedard is not the only scribe at U.S. News who can find an anonymous “GOP insider/former Bush advisor” to help support his narrative. Not all party insiders have a dim view of the governor, as writers less biased than Walsh may try to lead us to believe. She still has strong backers, even on the mean streets inside the beltway.

That does not mean that Alaska’s governor can coast to the front of the elephant walk. A “widely-held” belief among those party insiders, according to Walsh’s GOP strategist source, is that Sarah Palin will be just fine if her first term as governor will be regarded as a successful one. She has two more years to polish her record, and the same amount of time to go, as the advisor phrased it, “from sexy to studious”:

He says Palin should concentrate on building a conservative record of success as governor while also gradually placing herself in situations that demonstrate her knowledge of national and international issues.

These could include participating in forums of political leaders or policy experts at prestigious universities or giving a series of speeches at think tanks or conservative gatherings. “She needs to show that she’s more substantive than people think,” the strategist adds.

Gov. Palin is working on it. She speaks with authority on energy issues, and her arguments for saving the nation’s missile defense capabilities are both well-reasoned and compelling, especially considering the military ambitions of North Korea and Iran. She’s also up to speed on trade issues, as Alaska ranks fourth among the states in trade on a per capita basis and eighth in exports as a percentage of gross state product. She has met individually with scores of trade representatives and addressed a number of international trade delegations. While she’s no economist, the governor has rather wisely invested a considerable portion of her state’s oil and gas revenues, enough to give Alaska some breathing room while most other states are feeling much more pain at this point in the recession. And I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Gov. Palin take the other advice of Walsh’s strategist source and start making the rounds of some of the better-known conservative think tanks.

In fact, she has already been a speaker at the Hoover Institution’s Board of Overseers meeting in Washington, D.C. last year, where she addressed the benefits of her pet project, an Alaskan natural gas pipeline to deliver the clean-burning fuel to the lower 48. The former vice presidential candidate has some admirers at Hoover, including Senior Fellow Victor Davis Hanson, who has written with his characteristic eloquence in her defense:

“I think Palin can speak, and reason, and navigate with bureaucrats and lawyers as well as can Obama; but he surely cannot understand hunters, and mechanics and carpenters like she can. And a Putin or a Chavez or a Wall-Street speculator that runs a leverage brokerage house is more a hunter than a professor or community organizer.”

She should be welcome also at The Heritage Foundation where Rebecca Hagelin is one of that think tank’s vice presidents. Hagelin has written of Governor Palin:

“What makes her absolutely appealing to ordinary citizens across the country, both young and old, is that she didn’t go looking for greatness somewhere ‘out there.’ Instead, she sought to make a difference in the lives of the people in her path — and in so doing, greatness found her.”

Likewise, the doors of the Hudson Institute should be open for Sarah Palin. Hudson Senior Fellow John O’Sullivan had no qualms at all in connecting the Alaskan and Britain’s Iron Lady:

“I know Margaret Thatcher. Margaret Thatcher is a friend of mine. And as a matter of fact, Margaret Thatcher and Sarah Palin have a great deal in common.”

How about it, Governor? Shouldn’t you visit these good scholars and thank them in person for singing your praises, while at the same time less accomplished beings such as Kathleen Parker, Peggy Noonan and David Frum were haplessly engaged in trying to dig your political grave? Mark Twain once said of critics:

“If a critic should start a religion it would not have any object but to convert angels, and they wouldn’t need it.”

Although the timeless author was speaking of literary critics rather than the political kind, somehow I think he would would still approve of such a tour, if only just to poke a stick in the eyes of the latter.

-JP

COMMENTS

  • http://www.cityonahillpolitics.blogspot.com cityonahillpolitics

    I agree completely.

  • atemely

    Besides TeamSarah, the group & agenda at Conservatives4Palin.com are to my liking. Their detailed blogs of the many roughs and roadblocks Sarah Palin encounters everyday as governor, as a mother and husband are informative and heartwarming. I donated the max to Alaska Fund Trust ( not to SarahPac). Some diarist on Redstate are lukewarm Sarah Palin friends. For me, Sarah Palin is all about Life, pro-life in words and deeds. Her decisions in life are Holy Spirit inspired and that’s probably what drives others, liberals, leftist, and Republicans alike nuts.

    • Rod_Patrick
      • booksum

        I have little tolerance for criticisms of Palin right now. I’ve had my fill of idiot MSM Obama Propaganda where Palin is concerned. Does she have things she needs to work on..Sure and I think we Palin supporters all recognize this. For now, I don’t intend to indulge ObamaDrones for 1 second as they continually come up with new reasons why Governor Palin should not be President Palin

    • Josh Painter

      The RS Front Page contributors have been overwhelmingly pro-Palin in their diaries. In fact, there?s a relatively very small minority of diarists here at RS who are critical of her.

      No one has been more supportive of Gov. Palin than I. But I just don?t understand those among her followers who can?t deal with any criticism of her at all. Welcome to the real world, where things aren?t so snuggly warm and insular.

      That?s the difference between a supporter and a bot, I suppose. Supporters are willing to argue over and defend those whom they support. Bots can?t deal with it. They?re only happy when they?re hiding in the safety of a Borg-like monolithic group.

      obamunists, ronulans, palinistas? what?s the difference?

      - JP

      • Rapunzel46

        wait until the candidates decide who is running in 2012 and then let the debates begin, She will either rise to the top or she won’t, I for one plan to give her an honest appraisal along with anyone else who steps into the Frey.

      • atemely

        a bot, palinistas… makes no difference to me. There’s only one issue for me – Pro-Life in this political climate. If that place me ‘hiding in the safety of a Borg-like monolithic group’, so be it.

        • Nick Haynes

          Pro-life issues are important, and we should ensure our candidate is solid in that regard. In all candor, though, the only effect they have with the pro-life issue is in judicial appointments and the rare times a pro-life area bill comes across his desk. There are other issues that, in my opinion, are just as or more important than pro-life. National security, the economy, taxation, and personal freedoms are just as crucial to the ship of state.

          If conservatives and the Republican Party are going to regain power, the pro-life movement is one very crucial part. It cannot, however, be the entire platform. We can’t simply mold ourselves as the party of pro-life issues and expect to win. We have to have leaders who are strong on every issue, and if pro-life isn’t their greatest strength, but only one of them, so be it.

          • atemely

            for Republican Party to regain power? More power to Redstate. Pro-Life will still be an issue even if Republicans win the House, Senate or presidency. Culture of life must prevail in our society for our legacy to survive. Without life, national security will weaken with less Americans born enlisting or volunteering. Without life, less Americans contribute for economic growth and taxation. Being borne is our first taste of freedom and independence. For me, Sarah Palin in words and deeds, exemplify that culture of life. Her ‘choice’ to bring Trig into this world is a model and example for women in the same predicament. I pray for Sarah Palin’s political success. Her life choices are significant for our culture. Convenience and abolishing anything is very easy to do.

          • Nick Haynes

            that a candidate who is weak on personal freedom, national security, taxation, economic policy, and everything else that should signify what this party stand for…well, all of that would be forgiven and you would be out working your hind end off for them as long as they were the strongest pro-life candidate.

            And, you know what? That’s fine. Do your thing. But, if you’re going to get upset with me because I tend to view several different issues as core to the future of the party and, more importantly, the country, then don’t be surprised when I get upset with you because I think you have blinders on that are going to weaken you and lead our party not down the prim-rose path, but instead into a ravine.

            You’re correct when you say we need to have a pro-life president. But we also need one who understands that, if we don’t have a strong defense, we will fall to those countries who hate us for no good reason than that we are who we are. One also needs to understand that, if you work from a socialist or even quasi-socialist perspective in the economy, all you are doing is enslaving your productive citizens to the whims of those who do not wish to work for themselves.

            You act as if I’m saying we need to throw pro-lifers to the curb. I’m not saying that at all. They are a vital part of our party and we need to have a president that is pro-life as well. I said that above, and I acknowledge and welcome that. And, if you don’t see the part where I said that, ask, and I’ll point it out to you.

            You, however, seem to be saying that you don’t care if the candidate is a Marxist-style economist with Paulian views on foreign policy and defense, just as long as they will be the strongest candidate on pro-life issues. If I’m misrepresenting your position, please point to the part where I am wrong. But, if I am right, then I kindly suggest you grasp your bearings and realize that your single-issue perspective is damaging to not only the Republican Party and conservatives, but to any chance you have of ever getting a pro-life President and pro-life Congress.

            We all have to work together. We can’t just have a single-issue President or a single-issue Congress. And, sometimes that means that your issue isn’t the key strength, but only part of their strengths. Make your decision, though–be part of the solution, or through purity, be part of the problem.

            It’s your call.

    • thatsthetruth

      In case there is any wonder, it is stuff like this why the number of people who identify as Republicans number less than 25 percent now. And I say this as a lifelong Republican. My mother tells of me, as a child, putting notes to “Please vote Goldwater” under the windshield wipers of the neighbor’s car.

      This continued infatuation with the unqualified Sarah Palin is simply embarrassing. She cost John McCain the election; even now he won’t say that he’d support her for president. In the last election, solid conservatives with last names like Buckley, Reagan, Goldwater, Eisenhower voted for a Democrat because of this candidate.

      As long as the party is beholden to religious conservatives, and is not the party of less govt intrustion into our lives as it once was, it is going to continue to lose elections. I just don’t understand why people don’t see that.

      • atemely

        Where’s the truth in that? We, pro-life, is responsible for the Republicans less than 25% now? Where’s the truth in that? As a lifelong Republican did you vote for this incompetent president who did not knew his plane scared Manhanttanites last week? Didn’t religious conservatives help elect Reagan & GWB? These ‘solid conservatives with last names like Buckley, Reagan, Goldwater, Eisenhower voted for a Democrat’ are they not faux conservatives on Life? They just voted for big government president. If you are not conservative on Life, you have no life to conserve, for your heir stops with you.

        • mbecker908

          what you write before you post it.

          Secondly, conservatives joined pro-life voters and elected GWB. And we got an incompetent president who’s only veto in his first term was a meaningless exercise against ESCR. And whose complete abdication of leadership in his last five years in office gave us Obama.

          While I will be among those to note that thatsthetruth is an ignorant fool, you’re not on real solid ground yourself given the arguments that you’ve posted today.

      • JustLeaveMeAlone

        If you seriously think that Palin didn’t bring in more voters than otherwise, you need to do some reading and some talking to people outside of your own little world.

        John McCain is a moderate at best and a RINO at worst. He was too old for the job; and he wasn’t conservative enough. The ONLY thing that got alot of people off their butts and into the voting booth was Sarah Palin on his ticket.

        I’m not a Sarah-bot. I want to know more about her and see her in action for a longer period of time. But to assert she cost McCain the election is absurd.

      • Josh Painter

        And for the brief period that you’re still here, get this:

        “It was the economy, stupid.”

        And McCain was his own worst enemy inthe election. Republicans were happier with Palin than they were with McCain, according to Rasmussen:

        http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain

        I sense a disturbance in the force. Almost as if a gacking were imminent…

        - JP

        • Jack_Savage

          Certainly saying that gives him moral authority – right?

        • penguin2

          What “thatsthetruth” said is an outright lie, talking point, whatever. I know for a fact, in our Tidewater area (Va.) that the rally attendance was huge because of Sarah. People went crazy when she came out. McCain did not get that response here. My family and friends, who had never before participated in anything political became involved because of Sarah.

          People perceived that she was one of them, not a Washington insider/politician. We are tired of them. In the future we may vote Republican, but I can guarantee our monetary support is only going to go to the candidates that act on our behalf and vote our values, not just the give lip service to get elected.

      • Josh Painter

        Barry Goldwater, according to his son, thought that John McCain was a bad joke.

        - JP

      • Rod_Patrick

        Palin’s fault?

        1. McCain won a huge win with the white voters>> Yeah, Palin’s fault.

        2. McCain lost almost all of the black votes due to Obama’s color.>> Yeah, Palin should have been a black woman like Michelle. Why didn’t she change her color? So, Palin’s fault.

        3. McCain lost 2/3 of the youth votes and the rest of the minorities (except maybe the hillbillies and the native Indians). >>> Palin’s fault. She should have killed herself to make the youth “happy” and convince them to vote for McCain.

        4. McCain lost some women’s votes. >>> Yeah. Palin should have aborted Trig and forced Bristol to abort her baby.

        5. McCain got 50 million vs Obama’s 61 million. The 11 million margin includes ACORN’s corrupt election frauds. >> Exactly. It’s Palin’s fault. It should have been 25%., a perfect number for the Rs instead of ~49%.

        With only 25% registered R voters (a debatable figure then and now), we still garnered almost 49% of total voters in the last election. That’s besides the political environment that was very toxic to the Republicans: An unpopular Bush, An unpopular Iraq War, and a worsening economy.

        >>> YEAH. PALIN’S FAULT. That means that we WON THE INDEPENDENTS (i.e., voters not registered as Republicans) in the last election big time because of Sarah.

        Your Problem?

        You’re believing too much in the lies of the MSM.

        You’re just like the Republican leaders in Washington who still believe in the fairness and rationality of the MSM.

        Real Scores?

        REPUBLICANS AND NOBAMAS ARE INCREASING IN NUMBER IN JUST 3 MONTHS. IN JUST 3 MONTHS!

        Specter is just a spectacle to cover up this true story.

        We lost because McCain did not fight his opponent: he never attempted to reveal to the public the Audacity of Lies of Obama and the Democrats .

        Our current problem with Republican Party is THE LACK OF TRUE GRASSROOT MACHINERY to get the stronghold of reliable youth, and minority voters.

        If there’s a change for the Party, it’s not about the pro-life issue.

        It’s all about our brand as an “uncaring” party. We mocked the Democratic Party of being a party that cares. But we never said a thing about the real thing that the Democrats only care for their ego and their Anti-American agenda.

        The truth? Republican Party are really the Party that cares. We even care for the liberals and democrats. (The bipartisanship in the Bush era fully attested that although we paid a price for it).

        For starter, we should be saying:

        The new Republican Party…. that Party that really and honestly cares!

        We have to make a solid grassroot movement that will teach the youth of conservatism and republicanism. to oppose the liberal onslaught of the university professors and Hollywood culture.

        NRLC’s advocacy group is not enough. We need to establish a real touch-based support for women and pregnant adolescents.

        Finally, have you recently thank you mother’s Pro-life belief “at least once in her lifetime”? You should always thank your mother for not aborting you and for not thinking that you’re just an inconvenience when she carried you in her womb. You should always remind yourself of that … a blessing from a Pro-lifer like your own mother.

        Pro-life saves LIFE!

      • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

        I’m among the “show me” group of RedStater’s going forward, but not when it comes to Sarah’s role in the last election, I will vigorously sing her praises.

        Sarah’s choice was the rare instance where the vice presidential choice was an election changer that paved the way for a Republican victory. She energized the Republican base and preached and exemplified a message of joy and faith in America that transformed the whole debate. All the polls showed a dramatic uptick in support for the Republican ticket in the weeks following her selection

        Unfortunately, John McCain’s abject mishandling of the TARP crisis totally derailed his campaign and cost the campaign. History will show 1) to what extent this crisis was deliberately created and timed to cut off the surging Republican ticket’s inroad, and 2) to what extent staffers in McCain’s campaign (and possible moles) sabotaged Sarah’s campaign.

        But in the end, John McCain bears the responsibility for the loss by his ill-considered actions and his failure to discern the agenda of Barack Obama that his campaign and the media were willfully covering up nd to explain to the American people the alternatives that they were choosing between.

        And your last paragraph exposes your true agenda. I reject the linking of religious conservatives and government “intrustion into our lives”. If you truly prefer the totalitarian trajectory of the current adminstration just because it promises for a season to leave you alone to indulge your lusts – you will receive as a reward a government that will control every other aspect of your life as it directs us into penury – and inevitably (as history has shown with every past left dictatorship) will exert control your private life too as it demands control of even your very thoughts. Just think of who occupied the gulags and the reeducation camps – only this time no one be there to rescue.

        For the overwhelming number of social conservatives, fiscal conservatism and small government is a very high priority of our political intentions, because we know the wrath that an all-powerful leftist secular utopian totatlitarian state will being to bear upon us along with the rest of our nation.

    • mbecker908

      Wow. I wasn’t aware that the Holy Spirit had a Yahoo email account.

      And, as far as the Alaska Fund Trust is concerned, did it ever occur to you to find out why she’s not using the AK AG’s office to defend her actions, at no personal cost since she is a state official and can use state resources for her defense?

      • Achance

        to actually pay some attention to what some of her minions are doing. Even though I’ll enjoy getting paid for it, I wasn’t exactly planning to give up my stately retired repose for the next couple of months fighting with Her Administration; I’d rather be fishing and the King Salmon are starting to run.

        But, I get to file some stuff on behalf of one of my clients for one of her commissioners blatantly breaking the law in the way she dealt with submitting a labor agreement to the Legislature. And, I get to deal with that same commissioner for the way they are stonewalling a Public Records Act request for the initial version of a geographic differential study that they spent $400K of the people’s money on and then didn’t like it, so they changed it. Stonewalling PRA requests has almost become a Palin Administration trademark. Under Alaska law, you WILL give it up; it’s just a matter of how long it takes, how much it costs, and whether the person trying to get it has the resources to persist. My client does.

  • Crowe

    Even before I saw the reference to Lady Thatcher later in the piece I already had Margaret Thatcher’s “famous phrase” in mind.

    The left fears her. The GOP and too much of the right wrongly denigrate and dismiss her. But she connects in ways Obama could only dream of, and though the McCain camp stuck her to a script during the campaign, she doesn’t need a TelePrompter either.

    Maybe not 2012, but she’ll be around.

    • larryp

      Chris Mathews on Hardball was mocking Gov Palin. she is not wven i nthe news ans he is following the “rotary-script” as I call it, of savaging her on a reg basis. It is to keep the left focused I presume. and to raise funds.

  • AHALgal

    Actually, Sarah Palin is a lot of what we talk about these days. We still feel burned by GWB (TARP, DHS, etc.) but respect the man. We read Alaska newspapers and keep up with her activities closer than we follow our own governor.

    We really like her, but closely follow her politics to make sure she’s got the cred.

  • smitch61

    I am convinced she is the only one that can beat Obama. I hope she runs.

    • prisonernumber6
      She is a national joke. The die has been cast, for good or ill. Palin lost when she was allowed to take hit after hit, as the campaign fumbled for some kind of response, and then flailed its way through October.

      “There are no second acts in American life.”

      BTW – the Daily Kos crowd hopes she runs too. What are you, some kinda troll?

      • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • larryp
    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      Visit them if you want to support Red State I guess, but I don’t really know the details of them.

  • dgulla

    smitch61:

    I don’t hope that she runs, I PRAY that she runs. Being so new in 2008, the MSM was able to smear her before the public really got to know her. In time, Main Street will see that 3 years of law school at Harvard isn’t worth as much as one year of downtown Wasilla (or any small, God fearing town) common sense

    With oil prices falling, Alaska should be in a statewide depression. But it isn’t. Why not? Sarah Palin. She has shown what a leader who believes in small government and free markets can do for the economy.

    • Rapunzel46

      for actually being a fiscal conservative and reducing spending in the state,.. according to what I read she is 16% less than Murkowski’s budget.

      • Achance

        is meaningless in Alaska. NOBODY in Alaska is a fiscal conservative they way that people who live in states that live off income, sales and property taxes define the term. Sarah Palin presided over the greatest spending increases in Alaska since the early days of the Pipeline. Other than the “rebade” pander last year, nobody has really much criticized her for spending; the State takes in the money, the State spends the money. It is better for the money to go out in the economy than to have it sit in coffee cans and mattresses in the Department of Revenue.

        Alaska is a socialist state with a command economy. The words you people like to use are meaningless here. Gov. Palin will whack a few things out of the operting and capital budgets with her line item veto authority. You people will have orgasms about fiscal conservatism, we who actually know how Alaska works will just be wondering who pissed her off enough to get her to cut the budget to their district.

        • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

          Rather, what you seem to be describing is the plague that most countries whose economies are rooted in major oil and gas resources (such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Nigeria, Venezuela) tend to end up with crony, corrupt, undemocratic governments.

          It certainly shares characteristics with socialism in terms of an overbearing national government, but its roots are in extraction of a depletable resource rather than government as the owner of industrial capital. Thus it strategically buys support to create a ruling constituency rather than running roughshod over opposition.

          The problem arise with keeping control if they can’t keep up the payments due to decreasing revenues over a long enough time.

          Seems to fit Sarah’s situation in the next couple of years.

          • Achance

            State capitalism is the more socially acceptable description here. Gov. Hickel, a strong Palin supporter, talks about “the owner state.’ I actually like Hickel but he never could really put much of his thinking into policy or practice. His second administration was just a missed opportunity. He had no idea how nasty politics had become since the ’60s, when he first served as Governor, and he really couldn’t stand the nastiness.

          • mbecker908

            we’d call it “socialism”. And given that a long list of Alaskan Governors – like all of them including the current Governor – use oil revenues to buy votes, both in the House and Senate and from the population at large, you’re gonna have a hard time convincing me there’s a big difference in the economic principles of Alaska vs Venezuela.

        • mom2oneson

          about things not being as she made them out to be should have been the way she trashed the people before her. She could have said she improved things without speaking ill of them. She made them out to be like big horrible corrupt spenders and like she was the careful one.

    • Achance

      and legislators before her who established the Permanent Fund, the Constitutional Budget Reserve, the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation, and a host of other entities that make and hold money for Alaska. The reason Alaska isn’t in a “statewide depression” is that so much money was coming in for the last few years that even Alaska couldn’t figure out how to spend it all, so we had ample reserves to maintain more or less level spending despite the low continuing revenue.

      Alaska’s Comprehensive Annual Financial Report for the FY ended June 30, 2008, is here: http://fin.admin.state.ak.us/dof/financial_reports/resource/08cafr.pdf

  • jlkpatriot

    Gov. Palin has the instinct to connect with her supporters in an honest and earnest manner, unlike the rep. frauds e.g. McCain, Romney, Graham et al.She and Col. Alan West are a part of a small group of conservatives outside Wash. that can confront and defeat Obama.

  • smagar

    He’s had NOTHING to say on this topic?

    • Achance

      OK, I’m fine with that, probably even vote for her. I just don’t think much of the job she’s doing as Governor. She’s put a few of her buddies in the government and mostly left it in the hands of congenital ‘crats, some of who represent the very worst of an entrenched and fundamentally corrupt culture in the Executive Branch; the kind of corrupt where the people involved in the corruption are so innured to it that they don’t even know it’s corrupt. She either is OK with that or doesn’t realize she’s done it; either is a bad thing.

      • azaeroprof

        I suspect you were hoping not to comment on this one! BTW, Josh, thanks for the diary, I pretty much agree with all you said.

        At this point, it’s probably too much to hope that we could elect a conservative POTUS in ’12 that will actually be able to shrink the gov’t. So whether it’s Sarah or someone else, we just need to show that the conservative candidate can still win and at least start to put the brakes on Obama’s dangerous slippery slope to socialism/Marxism. If Sarah’s the one that can accomplish this, then I frankly don’t give a hoot what she did in AK. Governors often have to govern to the left of their political leanings, comes with the job. And she is still young, so it doesn’t have to be ’12, could easily be ’16, ’20, or even ’24 for her.

      • $peciallist

        np

      • Josh Painter

        Wow, she actually put people she knew she could trust and rely on in her government. What a shocker! I’ll bet *that’s* never been done before.

        LOL!

        - JP

        • Achance

          I don’t begrudge any Gov putting some “Friends of the Gov” in office. She actually hasn’t done much of that; a few of her Wasilla buddies here and there and some malcontents from the Murkowski Administration that gravitated to her are about the limit of it. The malcontents may cause her problems yet, especially the oil and gas ones, but there’s not many and it isn’t a real issue. Other than Frank Bailey and Ivy Frye’s stupidity about Tpr. Wooten, her Wasilla buddies haven’t caused any problems for her.

          The issue is that for the most part, she’s still running the Government with the Tony Knowles Administration. A major part of our problems in the Murkowski Administration was that we didn’t fire every Knowles appointee; we only replaced about 30% of the appointees. Gov. Palin, the Un-Murkowski, fired pretty much all of the Murkowski appointees, that would be the Republicans, and left all the holdover Democrats in place who for the most part run her government. As I said above, she either doesnt know what they do or she doesn’t care; either is a bad thing.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            …than all the beating up she’s been getting by the MSM and their hateful commentators.

            Regarding the media, the partisans will lap it up or utterly reject, but moderates more likely than not will recognize a lynch mob and be pushed to defend or at least sympathize with her.

            However, as you’ve repeated pointed out, it’s her administrative negligance in leaving the Knowles Democratic bureaucrats in place that will likely sabotage her governorship, which also leaves the door open to covert assistance by the Federal government on behalf of these moles – and s seriously damage governship will poison her resume.

            If she had her own people in place, then the Feds would have to move openly against her, which would draw attention. But she can be done in now without incrminating fingerprints (other than possibly a few low-level sacrificial lambs).

            Can anyone reach her – surely she’s seen the Troopergate situation blow up, even if she prevails in the end – hopefully she can be brought to realize that she’s got the traitors within the fort.

            Time for her to figure out who her friends are – and to recognize that the Democrats are not her friends now that she’s become a presence on the national scene – even if they may have supported her in the past.

          • Achance

            she is so anti-government that she really doesn’t much care how it runs. Well, that’s nice when you’re on the outside sitting in your PJs criticizing the government on a blog, but it isn’t so good when you’re the one who’s in charge of a government.

            There aren’t enough Republicans in Alaska, or any other state, to staff all the appointed positions. But, reorganizing the government so it can be run by a Republican is hard work, takes actual knowledge of government, and get significant opposition. We did a little of it in Murkowski but not nearly enough; I and one of my friends had the horsepower to restructure our areas, but nobody else had the interest or influence. The people who were cut out of power by that reorganization are the people who she’s let run her government. So, I return to the notion that she either doesn’t know what goes on or she doesn’t care. It isn’t that big a deal in a state government, but GWB had a lot of the same attitude and that got him the Plame Affair, the AAGs affair, and all sorts of leaks and sabotage. If you’re going to be an executive officer of a government, you ought to give at least a little thought to how to run a government.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            …as to why Republican counterrevolutions fail to take root for very long.

          • Achance

            the legs of the stool and who we should throw out of the Party, but if you’d like to see a diary sink to the bottom of the stack, write something about how to actually run a government.

            To my mind, the reason the Democrats were so able to effectively criticize the GWB Administration was the demonstrated incompetence of the Bush Administration. Yeah, they were right on policy, they were right on the war on terror, but they couldn’t for the life of them find the light switches and rest rooms in a government office. The Katrina debacle was the death knell. And, since my wife worked for the FEMA analog here, I know better than most what FEMA really does and who does what in a disaster, I know that a lot of the criticism is unfair. That said, the Administration could not defend itself from the incompetence charges and the Ds just piled on for the rest of his administration. If you pretent to want to govern, you really, really , really ought to have some idea how to do it.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            Rather full platter this weekend, too.

          • Section9

            Except try to work the problem politically.

            It seems to me that she’s learned from this session that she has to work with the State Party. That’s why I think she made her peace with Lisa, and I believe that the shocke of losing the WAR battle has forced her into a reassessment of using the STate Party as a foil.

            IOW, she can be more “Republican” now that the Dems are in power in DC and the corruption involved in the Stevens prosecution has been exposed.

            I fully expect the Republican Legislative Caucus to have a hand in picking her next AG. See if I’m not right.

          • mbecker908

            is missing the question. For me it’s a matter of “does she KNOW what to do”.

            Look, I’m a total outsider on this. I don’t give a rusty rip one way or the other about Sarah Palin or any other “potential” 2012 Republican Presidential candidate. I’m concerned about finding a way to stop the Marxist Tsunami headed for us in 2009.

            We get people here every week doing some sort of rah-rah BS (note: not “bs”) diary telling us why we need to support/do something for/send money to/look really hard at/something else one potential candidate or another. We can’t even figure out what the heck we stand for as a party. The senior members of the Stupid Party in DC – who couldn’t lead a tweaker to a pound of meth – have put together a group headed by (drum roll please) John Freaking McCain to have a listening tour to figure out what’s important to the “American People”.

            I’m simply saying that by 2012 none of this crap is going to matter. Obama’s going to pass close enough to 100% of “his” agenda in the next two years that who we run for office in four years won’t matter. It also won’t much matter if we beat the BoyPresident™ either since the probability of Republicans – make that Stupids – actually rolling back the nationalization of the automobile industry or healthcare or son-of-card-check is exactly zero. And anybody who wants to argue that can start by presenting a list of all of the New Deal and Great Society programs Republicans have killed or even cut back in the last 80 years.

            Who the AG is in Alaska doesn’t matter one whit. Finding some leaders in the PitKnownAsTheNation’sCapitol™ does matter. Let the Alaskans take care of Alaska. Let the Californians take care of California. The Party needs to find it’s soul and find some leadership who are willing fight. Neither of those things are happening when John McCain has ANY say in the leadership or in deciding what the party is about.

            Sorry Josh, but this whole subject is utterly meaningless mental masturbation.

          • Nick Haynes

            Well said.

          • bs
          • wallahi

            I agree completely with this position. And not to threadjack (OK, maybe just a little), this is why I don’t get why so many people are cheering Specter’s departure. Yes, he’s a loathsome character. Yes, he represented the worst of the RINO brigade. But if you’re as worried as I am about what the Democrats are trying to accomplish within the next couple years, then you have to realize we just can’t afford to lose a single GOP vote in the Senate–even an unreliable one.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            You’ve got to remove it, even if you’re worse off in some ways in the short run, becauise letting it stay in place could be fatal.

          • mbecker908

            and let me preface my remarks by saying I have no general problem with “moderates” and I’m fine with the ME girls.

            Specter voted with or provided cover for Democrats for the last 10 years on virtually every issue of import to the conservatives and just plane old republicans. I have no problem with him stepping up and admitting what he is and has been for all of this decade – at least – a Democrat.

            Good riddance to bad rubbish.

          • Vegas_Rick
          • eburke

            to get off the fence and start saying what’s on your mind.

            And btw, speaking as someone who’s a Palin fan for her Reaganesque ability to connect with the average Joe (or Jane), your points are dead on (you old currmudgeon, you)

          • AKSteveB
          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            We really need to focus on developing our farm team (state and local level) because that is where our conservative heroes of tomorrow are going to come from.

            Which is why Sarah is someone worth keeping in mind for Federal office in the future – if she can produce for her team, which she has not proven herself yet as capable of doing. But I don’t need to repeat my views – they haven’t changed.

            Thus I emphatically agree it’s much too early to worry about the 2012 Presidental primary – when we first have to figure out how we’re going to survive until 2012. Denial didn’t help the lady on the back of the crocodile.

            I emphatically agreet that we need to try to hold our current Congressional leaders feet to the fire – but it’s not clear how much wer’re going to get them to start fighting back. They obviously haven’t gotten the message yet, if they’re putting John McCain on tour and playing the same seniority game to keep the same failed leadership in place that has brought the Republican Party and our democratic instutions to the brink of extinction.

            Not that we don’t keep trying. But our difficulty in finding conservative leaders is a reflection of our weakness in infrastructure and lack of knowledge and skill in the gruesome details of governance, as Art has pointed out numerous times,

            Parliamentary systems have shadow governments that are ready to step in if the next election brings their party into power. We need think about who can step up to such a role. And at what point can we get the backbenchers to rebel and demand new caucus leadership.

            For all their warts, the California House Republicans did that during the budget battle, when they threw out their minority leader and elected DeVore instead because the first leader had become too conciliatory and compromising.

            This needs to happen more often – and before we are in extremis

          • redneck_hippie

            When I read Erick’s post on the Nat’l Council for a New America, I had a fleeting thought that this was an attempt at a shadow government.

            It was only fleeting, however, because it is difficult to get my mind around the idea that Republicans could implement something practical like that.

          • mbecker908

            The “problem” is simple. John Sidney McCain. “Let me be clear, this is NOT a new Contract With America…”

            Until we have leadership that is willing to actually “lead” and not have another damned “listening tour” we’re rightly going to be in the wilderness.

          • prisonernumber6
            …when you’re completely out of touch.

            Maybe if the “leadership” had an actual clue about how life was being lived outside the Beltway, where everyone smiles at them and offers up silver trays of frosty drinks, they’d be a little better at actually doing some of the things that their constituency wants.

            Unfortunately, I think the “listening tour” is just another flimsy photo-op sham. When will someone with the guts to toss aside politics as usual actually stand up for something?

          • Vegas_Rick
    • AKSteveB

      there just comes a point where there isn’t much more to say. 2012 is a long way away, and outside of Alaska, this is mostly sillyness on all sides.

      The family stuff is tabloid crap. Gov. Palin and her spokespeople need to just ignore it, the sort of people who read the tabloids and watch daytime tv have a short attention span, and she is prolonging that. Beyond that what we see *right now* is more a pop culture phenomenon than a serious political one. She has fans based on who people think she is, more than on who she is actually is and what she has accomplished. Right now, it just seems more productive to work towards finding and electing good candidates for 2010, than getting wrapped up in 2012.

  • http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.blogspot.com/ Gary

    Great job Josh. You hit the nail on the head!

    As you know, our little group has found some interesting ties into those who want to hurt Governor Palin. Petty little liberals.

    But among regular people, she is still highly regarded as a true leader. All of the folks who watched American Chopper absolutely loved seeing her on the show!

    And you know just how strong she is, because the liberals, from Obama all of the way down to the loon bloggers in Alaska want to destroy her.

    As Ann Coulter put it, when she wrote the blurb about Sarah for Time Magazine’s 100 most influential people:

    “There’s a reason why there is no ‘Stop Olympia Snowe before itr’s too late’ movement!”

  • $peciallist

    I know about her from diaries on RS, I’ve seen the youtubes, I’ve watched the interviews and speeches….she is my Favorite elected official, hands down…..she’s Golden…isn’t she Gov of Alaska?…who cares!

    I want her to move to California so I can stalk her….

  • observant

    Sure, she’s still governor of AK. As for prez, she is not the best nor brightest, unless you are into demagoguery.

    Still, she may be all we have unless some serious regrouping happens. Mitt may return, the guy is much sharper than she is.

    Maybe she’s a VP

    • http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.blogspot.com/ Gary

      I like Mitt, and frankly, even though I had been a supporter of the draft Sarah deal, before McCain did the right thing, I was hoping Mitt would be his guy, for VP.

      But there is no contest between the two. Romney is not electable. He is indeed as smart as they come, on financial stuff. His Olympics turn around is legendary. But the man has a LOT of RINO in him, as well.

      And, he can’t draw crowds like Palin, or energize the people like Palin. No one in the GOP can. You gotta remember, she is capable of drawing the same sized crowds as Barry does. And her supporters are just as rabid as his. That is HUGE.

      But the thing Palin has going for her, is she has street smarts, and common sense. And even better, she hasn’t spent a lifetime around the beltway.

    • Josh Painter

      that he couldn’t even buy the nomination. He spent tons of money and couldn’t even finish off McCain’s nearly dead candidacy. Perhaps the Mittites were too busy launching Phoney Fred websites and telling vicious lies about Fred at the time to notice McCain.

      The people inside the McCain campaign who stabbed Gov. Palin in the back mostly were hired on from the Romney campaign. Yeah, Mitt is sharp, all right – at least his long knives are.

      Watch your back, Sarah! Don’t let that weasel get near you with his knives.

      - JP

      • McKinley

        So we got John McCain.

        How is Sarah Palin more electable than Romney in a general election? As Achance points out, Palin also has a lot of serious baggage that the Dems would pile on in a general election, which Republicans, if they are competant in the least, would reveal in the primary season.

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          After running as a conservative for months, but then selling out to the UAW to win Michigan, Romney lost any hope of rallying the right against McCain.

          Since Huckabee lost that hope when he attacked Pat Toomey and CfG, and Ron Paul lost that hope when he re-fought the Vietnam War from the side of the North, that left McCain a winner by default.

          • Nick Haynes

            by the happenings in IA and NH. IA was lost by the so-con vote coming out more for Huckabee than Romney, because of questions on Mitt’s commitment to pro-life issues and, in some cases, his religion. NH was lost because IA took the sheen off and NH has always had an affinity for McCain. After those two races, Mitt needed Michigan to stay in the race. Unfortunately, he went the way he did. Even if he hadn’t shown love for the UAW, though, at that point, he probably would’ve lost in the other states, simply because the support he had shown from IA and NH was lost, and McCain was already being cast as the eventual nominee.

            That doesn’t mean he can’t win in 2012, though. After the primaries and all of that, one of my non-political friends who had voted for Huckabee went back through on Youtube and watched a lot of the Romney videos from the debates. After he saw those, he has made a switch and hopes Romney runs again, or at least gets the VP nod eventually. He’s a hardcore so-con, with strong streaks of fis-con and everything else, but he doesn’t like Huckabee anymore. He’s onboard for Mitt. It’s one story, true, but it’s one that can play out if the right groundwork is laid by Mitt’s campaign.

          • McKinley

            Set himself up to be the candidate of the right, at least he hopes. Romney was a good soldier in suspending his campagin. If a few bad apples who worked for him were bitter at the McCain people, lets not judge the man by that.

            I supported McCain throughout the primaries and volunteered for his campaign in Virginia because he spoke most effectively on foreign policy, trusted him on judges, and I felt that Iraq would be the number one issue in the election. I also believed, erroneously, that he was the only R with a chance of winning given Bush’s poll numbers and the R defeat in 2006. Obviously, I was wrong and Senator McCain’s campaign disappointed me, especially his selection of Sarah Palin as his runningmate who, despite her credentials on social issues, was woefully unprepared for the national spotlight or the presidency,

            Not that you need the encouragement, but keep up the essays on Palin, Achance! Very illuminating.

          • Nick Haynes

            particularly for the reasons that I thought Romney showed after his loss. He continued to get out there and beat the path for McCain, wherever he was requested. Not only that, but he beat the path for conservatism. Now he might have been laying the groundwork for 2012, but how many of the primary candidates did you see pushing as hard for McCain as Romney was? Rudy? Fred? Huck? They did a few spots here and there (and Fred has to be given kind of a pass because of family issues), but you always saw Romney pushing and working to get McCain elected.

            There might have been a couple of questionable calls during his early career, but I felt that Romney was a strong conservative candidate, and I knew that McCain, whenever he got into it, would have to run to the right of where he was normally at on anything other than strength in wartime and fiscal restraint on earmarks if he was going to pick up the conservative base, which I thought was telling. If the Republican candidate has to run to the right, rather than the center, in order to pick up votes, then we are either in a overwhelmingly right country (we aren’t, unfortunately, but closer to center-right), or we have the wrong candidate.

            With regards to Palin, that is the fault of Palin to not be more pro-active, and the fault of the McCain team in trying to turn her into the female, cooler version of McCain. They took her away from who she was and tried to re-mold her image. Also, I think that we in the lower 48 tend to put Palin up on a pedestal, because she is charismatic and she is also still an unknown quantity. I think that, as we find out more about her through her own admissions and the admissions of Alaskans, both pro and anti-Palin, that pedestal will be lowered a bit.

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            The problem with what he was ‘forced’ to do in Michigan is that by doing it, he proved his critics right: He will say whatever he thinks he needs to say in order to win the election.

            That means that anything he says that sounds right-wing in a primary is now suspect.

      • Nick Haynes

        in other breaking news today, the sun rose in the east and is expected to set in the west. Scientists predict the same eerie pattern tomorrow as well. More at 10.

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          Well you had two choices: You could refute his attack, or you could mock the messenger.

          Seems to me your choice admits he’s right, and Romney was a trickster.

  • andysmith

    she needs to worry about winning re-election in Alaska first. You know the DNC is going to dump a ton of money into her defeat in Alaska. It seems like she’s doing the right things with staying out of the media for now and getting more “book smart” on other issues.
    I want her to run for President in 2012. If she doesn’t win the nomination, she’ll certainly generate enough excitement and interest about the GOP ticket to get the ball rolling in the primaries. We already have a great start with Specter out of the party.

    • Rod_Patrick

      Some republicans may even pitch in.

      • mom2oneson
        • Rod_Patrick

          with some exceptions, maybe.

          He he he.

  • Achance

    Since I can’t comment on a Red Hot, I’ll do it here.

    Here’s the Executive Branch Ethics Act: http://www.law.alaska.gov/doclibrary/ethics.html

    A Republican Senator and good guy from Fairbanks tried a few years ago to amend the Ethics Act to gag complainants; it was largely responsible for costing him his seat in the Senate. Alaska is a small state with a big government; if you are a public officer, you WILL have to deal with issues that may be a benefit or a detriment to someone you know or are related to. People are touchy about it and pretty insistent on disclosure. Plus, the State has a terrible track record on actually enforcing the Ethics Act. Until recently, if someone got an Ethics Act charge, your first question was, “Who did they pi#$ off?” The problem is compounded by the fact that even the old law was little litigated so there isn’t a clear definition of what constitutes a “benefit” for purposes of the Act. Now with the recent changes that she’s so proud of, any litigation will be first impression and, if nobody has noticed, judges read papers too and some of them are Democrats.

    Gov. Palin has posed herself as the paragon of Ethics, the one who took on and took out the “good old boys.” Well, others of us may have a different view of that, but she’s the one who wrapped herself in that banner. Then she played the “investigate all you want” gambit with the Tpr. Wooten/Walt Monegan matter without knowing the lay of the land. When it became evident that some close to her might have had some contact with Monegan regarding Wooten, she went into a Nixonian stonewall, turning a minor upset into a major scandal. That put the Senate and Sen. Pres. Lyda Green particularly in “payback is a bi$%h mode.” Throw in the VP nomination to make it a national issue, and you wind up spending money on lawyers.

    To the rest of them, she mostly has only herself to blame; trying to withhold the emails in a State with a very expansive and heavily litigated Public Records Act is not smart. If the complainants can hold out against her resources, she WILL be ordered to disclose all those emails, including the ones from her “personal” account. You don’t have to be the sharpest stick in the stack to understand that if it is State business, it ain’t personal no matter what machine or account you do it on.

    And the people who are advising her haven’t learned a thing from all the controversy. I’m being charitable by saying “the people advising her” because I’m really hoping she wouldn’t do or allow some of the things they’ve done if she knew about it. Her Commissioner of Administration got the AG to come up with a whole new guidance on personal use of State electronic resources to try to cover her on the emails. That AGs Opinion will not survive its first day in Court but until such time it has bestowed a right to personal, private use of State electronic resources on ALL State employees. That was a truly stupid thing to do and one which reversed some bloody battles with the Democrats and Unions back in the ’90s. Just in the last month, the same Commissioner of Admin delayed releasing a long sought after study on cost of living differentials between the various regions of the State. Little birds tell us that the Administration did not like the result of the survey and “fine tuned” those results before releasing it yesterday. The Administration stonewalled a Public Records Act request for the draft report from an insider publication called the Alaska Budget Report. If you look up the AK Supreme Court decisions setting out the contours and limits of the PRA, you’ll find the Budget Report as the plaintiff/complainant in most of the important ones. Before it’s over, they WILL give up that draft report or they can have a lot of fun explaining why it doesn’t exist anymore. I can go on for awhile with other examples of this sort of stuff of which I have first hand knowledge. Now I’m not the sort to file gratuitous Ethics Act complaints; I’m the sort to file unfair labor practice complaints and lawsuits, stuff with real teeth and also the sort to work to kill legislation and appointments that an administration wants. There’s lots like me.

    • bs

      …to do a RedHot comment. That’s the recommended method, and your comment here is certainly substantial enough for that. No issues including it here as a comment, since it’s relatively relevant to the original diary.

      Just thought I’d point it out for the record.

      • Josh Painter

        Art, you can post a Red Hot as a reply to another Red Hot. The traditional method is to title it RE: (with the title of the RH post you are replying to). Example RE: Amending Alaska’s Ethics Law

        The only caveat is that Red Hot items should not be lengthy. You would have to boil it down to just a few brief paragraphs.

        - JP

    • panchita

      about your perceived frailties of Sarah and her unsuitability in your eyes of being unfit for local or national office.

      Anyone who is the “sort to work to kill legislation and appointments that an administration wants”, is the type I’m sure all our sons and daughters aspire to be someday.

      But what do I know. I’m just a humble palinista.

      There’s a lot more like me than you.

      • Achance

        legislation and appointments that they don’t believe to be in their community, state, or Country’s interest. And, to do so without regard to which politician or political party was behind the legislation or appointment.

        And, actually, you’re just naive and silly.

        • panchita

          Alaskans are more than the ankle biting, welfare seeking, socialists you portray them to be.

          Silly? Maybe…but I’m still able to recognize a frustrated former civil servant.

          I do enjoy your posts though. Saves me from having to go to Kos or HuffPo, and your much nicer.

          • Nick Haynes

            One would think that this comment would warrant a swift and strong apology. Disagreement is one thing, but you just equated the work of a long-time member of this community (longer than myself and I’ve been here about 3 years longer than you) with the fecal matter that passes as postings on two ultra-liberal sites.

            Lord knows Achance doesn’t need my defense, but he’s getting it. And personally, if your candidate of choice can’t get criticized without you getting your panties bunched in a wad, you need to grow a thicker skin…or grow up…or leave. Any of those would work for me.

          • panchita

            that Sarah is not smart enough or capable enough to run for national office much less the governership of AK.

            My candidate of choice sir has been raped by the MSM so my skin is plenty tough.

            Why are you so defensive?

            Whats with the panties in a wad bit? Its so seventies and so sexist.

            Anyways we are all hopefully on the same side at the end of the day (though obviously supporting different candidates)

          • mom2oneson

            His suggestions and stuff he writes is based on experience and he knows what he is doing from working and he can see where she is making errors. That is totally different than people that have ill intentioned just saying stuff out of the air to be mean and hurt someone. You can’t even make a comparison.

          • panchita

            without ever highlighting her successes. Lets not pretend thats being constructive.

            Whether you, Achance or Nick agree or not, she is the standard bearer of the party.

            It up to her to decide wether or not she will carry it.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth
          • Nick Haynes

            who will do nothing but highlight her successes, turn her non-successes into successes, and her failures into anti-Palin conspiracies. Why does he need to waste bandwidth when you and a thousand others will do it for him (and all without the benefit of having stepped foot in Alaska for more than a week or two)? Furthermore, why don’t you check and see what Art has posted on here on more levels other than whether or not Palin is God before you go off and equate him with Arianna or Markos? I would estimate that he’s put in enough time here to warrant that. It’s not about me being defensive. It’s about you being a little child who can’t stand any criticism of your chosen one, your own personal Obama. Palin is not a litmus test to determine whether or not you are conservative, though I understand you’d like her to be.

            And, last time I checked, she wasn’t the standard bearer of the party. As a matter of fact, we don’t really have a standard bearer right now. She might be your standard bearer, but I’ll bet you a strong majority will disagree with you as far as her status within the party.

            Of course, I’d hate to keep you from crowning her nearly two years before a campaign will begin, and nearly four years away from her presumptive Inauguration Day.

          • Scope

            Because he has said in the past that “he was paid to argue with people all day long.” You will never win an argument with him, simply because, he is a grandfather of the site, with so much government experience before he retired, he automatically gets first preference and alliegence at Redstate. There are those that take his every word and opinion as Gospel, and, there are those that don’t see things his way. Let it go, walk away, forget arguing with him, and, save yourself some annoyance or worse. Let it go, comment on other things, but, don’t go after Achance as he will squash you like a bug every time, even your own opinions. He will tell you that you are naieve, an idiot and worse. Let it go for your own sake.

          • mbecker908

            Art seldom if ever notes that commenters are “idiots” or worse.

            He usually leaves that to me. And, now that you mention it, panchita is a first rate, top of the line idiot. He couldn’t present an argument that would cause an eight year old to stop eating broccoli.

          • panchita

            Do you really think it makes those around you think more highly of you? Quite the opposite my friend.

            We are all in this battle together. Lets stop putting down each other or our candidates and work for 2010.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            That said, I’m glad you said let’s work for 2010. That was what started this whole thread – that we need to focus on the present danger/tsuanami and deal with that before we have the luxury of another Presidential primay (which go on much to long anyway, but that’s another topic).

            So if we can agree on that, then we can let this Sarah debate rest for a while.

          • mbecker908
          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            The guy they send out on the ice when the other side has been committing too many fouls and the referees aren’t keeping the game under control. His job is to effect equity when following the rules isn’t working.

            Happens in soccer too…

          • mbecker908
          • mbecker908

            And I could care less what you think of me and you’re certainly not “my friend”.

            Now then, you don’t seem to be able to figure out that Governor Palin has significant political problems up in AK. That’s a state where she’s got big R majorities in both houses of the legislature and nothing that even remotely looks like the economic problems that virtually every other state is having. If she can’t deal with politics in AK, the sharks in DC will tear her to pieces before breakfast on her first day and we’ll be left longing for the days when we had that competent fella GWB as POTUS and running the Party.

            Governor Palin is a great stump speaker. She lives out her pro-life bonafides like no other politician I can think of. She can electrify a crowd. But if she can’t run a little operation like AK how in God’s name do you think she’s going to deal with the “big boys and girls” in DC? She appears to be a pretty good politician and a crappy executive.

            Oh, and while we’re at it, maybe you can explain something to me that Josh won’t. Governor Palin is out raising money for her legal defense relating to the ethics charges stemming from Trooper Gate. Please explain to me why she is not referring her legal defense to the State of Alaska who – as I understand by AK law – should be defending her. Why the private attorneys?

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            Though if you can come up with a different one, we’re all ears.

          • mbecker908

            And I’ve never seen a comment related to it from Josh or any of the Pbots. Josh wrote a diary sometime back (at least I think it was him, if not I apologize) about the private money being raised. Art pointed out the reality of the situation and was roundly ignored. I’ve asked on several occasions for an explanation and gotten the sound of crickets chirping.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            Sorry, I was certain you had seen Art’s explanation. I’ll do a Kowalski to clear that up.

          • mbecker908

            to toss in my comment and I wouldn’t have done so had you just appended the pkid.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth
          • panchita

            in other states would be called democrats. Sarah got herself into a pickle by going against both sides of the aisle. She still governed well until McCain pulled her into the 2008 race and made her his attack dog. He has since thrown her under the bus. Her approval rating, despite your reservations is 60%.

            I don’t pretend to know AK politics, which is convoluted at best, but my sense is that she has hired private attorneys to prevent further ethics accusations that she is using state money to defend herself.

            I’m in the business of saving lives mbecker908, I’ll leave the “cogent” arguments to you.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            …than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

            I mean, when you say “I don’t pretend to know AK politics” and proceed to make a wildly speculative guess at an answer to mbecker’s question – you are saying that your pontificating about something you know absolutely nothing, and in the process challenging someone like Art who know the state government inside and out. That is sheer foolishness.

            Simply put – if you admittedly don’t know what you’re talking about, then stop talking about Alaska politics. You just discredit Sarah when you get out of your depth.

          • panchita
          • mbecker908
          • mbecker908

            Good grief. Of all the ignorant, blow hard statements I ever seen on a blog that one ranks near the top. You are a major jerk.

            Now then, about the 60% rating, let’s see if she gets reelected. And, just so you know I’m consistent, one of the biggest problems I had with Romney was that he couldn’t get reelected. One shot wonders need not apply.

            The political situation in AK is of her own making, fool. And I am amazed that in your first paragraph you pretend to know about the R majorities and in the next one you admit you’re ignorant about AK politics. Sheesh.

            As far as her problems “stemming from McCain”, so what? They are political problems that she doesn’t seem to be able to deal with very effective.y. And with respect to her “governing well” pre-McCain, you’re ignorant of history. She hadn’t done much of anything.

          • panchita
          • mbecker908

            thanks for trying. At least you played. Even if you lost. I’ve never been able to get an answer out of Josh.

            And, with respect to your answer… Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Wrong. Do some research and come back. Take your time.

          • panchita

            my friend:). Just know that if Sarah never wins another election I will still be happy and successful

            On the other hand if Sarah wins, then your only recourse will be to intensify your other hobby of torturing small animals and insects.

          • mbecker908

            And you are our current poster child for that.

            You seem to think that I have some sort of vendetta out for Governor Palin and I don’t. I will happily support her if she’s the nominee, but she’s got a long way to go before that happens. And as far as torturing small animals and insects are concerned, Franz would not let me torture animals and you’re the only insect I’m currently working on. Just be thankful I can’t stomp you, ’cause if there were a death penalty for stupidity you’d never have gotten this far.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            We got scads of Republican office holders and spokespeople who could use instruction in the art of fighting back and setting the tems of engagement.

            And Art could teach the practicums.

          • janis

            an assistant professor! That’s one class I’d just love to take.

          • mbecker908

            First of all, I don’t approve of “fighting back”. I prefer to respond immediately to the obvious before it becomes an “attack”. I also would never consider going on the offensive unless I was totally willing to lay waste to the thing I’m pursuing. And don’t ever back down in the face of rank stupidity. Even though you might get called a bully.

            On that note, Tony Snow being force to apologize to the DC Press gang was one of the most offensive things GWB did in office. And I know that is an assumption on my part, but I’m standing by it because it sounds more like Bush than Snow.

          • http://theminorityreportblog.com David Hinz

            “Why do you have to resort to name calling?”

            the short answer is because he is a bully. Bullies get to call names, and because he is a legacy on this site — if you’ve seen Animal House you know what I mean — he gets to pretty much do whatever he wants.

          • Achance

            They’re the Republican answer to tingly Obamaniacs. I tell you what, you come to Alaska and spend a few years. Learn something about how the State works and who’s who. Then talk to me about how Sarah Palin governs my State. You and the other Outside Palinbots have heard a stump speech and some soundbites. You are as ignorant of Sarah Palin’s actual actions and accomplishments, or lack thereof, as the Obamaniacs are of his. It is the same stupid, blind, slobbering love affair for something that you have created in your own febrile imagination about what Gov. Palin is to you.

            I have to make my living in Alaska. I have to worry about my kids making a living here, at least the two who haven’t yet given up on the place and gone to Seattle. I’ve watched that woman alienate the major industry here, give a half billion dollars to a Canadian company for a vaporware natural gas pipeline, run the government in such an incompetent or disinterested way that it is just a free for all for holdover Democrats, and, Oh, Hell, the list is too long and it won’t matter to a Palinbot. Tell you what, if you can arrange for her to be governor of your state, I’ll pay her air fare.

          • SteveLA

            Art…tell us how you really feel about Governor Palin, don’t hold back! LOL

          • Josh Painter

            I’m sure they’re all just dumb snowbillies from the valley, though. [/sarc]

            - JP

          • Achance

            who voted for BHO, most Alaskans haven’t a clue about their government. All you have to do is tell them there’ll be development (jobs), a big Permanent Fund Divident, and no Income Tax or other Statewide tax and you could elect Lenin’s corpse. 60% and change of them really like the fact that she handed out a $1000 bucks a head last year in addition to a record sized Permanent Fund Dividend. The only thing the average Alaskan really cares about politically is the size of the PFD and what’s getting built or bought in their community. There’s not going to be much of a PFD this year and legally, there probably shouldn’t be one at all; the losses in the markets have eaten into the corpus of the Fund. There’s still a pretty good Capital Budget but nothing like the last three years. We’ll see what those polls look like next year.

          • Rod_Patrick

            Just kidding, bro.

          • JustLeaveMeAlone

            but Lord, deliver me from her followers.

          • panchita

            you are using Alinsky rules 4 and 5 against members of your own party.

            Its all good I guess if it can help bring down Sarah.

          • Achance

            we wouldn’t have the Obamessiah destroying our Country.

            You can love Sarah Palin all you want. I’ve never spoken a word against her when she was the VP candidate. In fact, I was one of the first to propose her when McCain was talking about Pawlenty. I said something like, If he’s looking at nobodies, he should be looking at the nobody from nowhere, at least she’s a woman. Go search, it’s out there somewhere.

            Right now she’s the Governor of my State and I don’t give a damn about National politics when it comes to how she governs my State. When it comes to governing my State, suffice it to say that we disagree.

          • Achance

            the National Lefties ever discovered her or even developed their meme. You can go back into the archives of RedState and find me dishing her when she was a candidate for governor in ’06. I didn’t like her when she was the Mayor of Wasilla. I didn’t like her when we worked together in the Murkowski Administration. I didn’t like her when she trashed first Randy Ruedrich and then Greg Renkes and then Frank Murkowski, and in fact she has trashed everybody who has ever done ANYTHING for her. And, I DON’T LIKE HER NOW, but it doesn’t have anything to do with lefties or her National ambitions. Hell, a bad Republican is better than a good Democrat, so I’d vote for the nominee.

          • panchita

            veracity. I have learned a lot from your posts, even though I disagree with your conclusions.

  • Nick Haynes

    I think we’re jumping the gun with regards to Sarah Palin being our standard-bearer. I think she’s got potential, but the Alaskans on here seem to bring several issues up every time one of these “Palin for President” diaries rises to the surface. Additionally, 2012 isn’t all that far off from 2008, and January 2011 (the unofficial start of the presidential campaign) is even closer. There are going to be several people who got a bad view of her from 2008 that won’t have forgotten it by the time we start deciding who to represent us for 2012.

    If I could give advice to Gov. Palin, it would be this: run for governor again in 2010. And don’t give a rip for 2012-you already went in 2008, and it will make you look overly ambitious and not caring about your state if you finish a gubernatorial campaign and jump right back out on a national campaign trail. Instead, finish up 8 years of being a great governor (hopefully) and knock of Begich in 2014. Grab the Senate seat. Then, in 2016 (if Obama wins in 2012) or 2020 (unless a first-term Republican wins in 2016), run for the presidency. By then, you’ll have had 8 years of executive leadership, 2 to 6 years or more of a successful Senate career, and there will be no questioning your leadership, experience, or charisma.

    And, to the Republican Party and conservative-minded folks out there, I say this: start working on issues lower-level than the Presidency in 2012. That’s nearly 4 years away. Instead, start identifying those leaders in your legislatures and your communities that we can build up the Party with again. Dedicate yourself to getting them some exposure. I don’t always have the time to write on here, but I work in the state legislature and feel like I’m in a position where I can’t give full observations. There are several folks, on RS and elsewhere, who are not similarly encumbered. We won’t be able to take the country back unless we do it on all levels and set the groundwork for the future.

    • bs

      I don’t think JP is posting this with the complete assumption that she will *necessarily* be that “standard bearer”. I think he’s just keeping the pot on simmer so little wisps of steam emerge on occasion so we know she’s still there. I have no issues with that. But I echo your sentiments that we should keep our options open and that Gov. Palin should continue to run Alaska to the best of her ability and slide into a run for POTUS if/when the time is right.

      We have a number of qualified GOP leaders that could also contend in 2012. But they all (Palin included) need to sharpen their conservative chops and be prepared to respond to the waves of socialism that are and will continue to be washing up over us in the next 3 years.

    • Achance

      here: http://www.redstate.com/achance/2008/11/22/2012-think-january-2009/

      We don’t have a shadow of a hope of winning the Presidency in ’12 unless BHO does something suicidal. Hell, we hardly have a Party after eight years of GWB and exactly ZERO effective response to the Democrats at any level.

      Many here don’t think that Gov. Palin will seek re-election as Governor; second terms have been very unkind to Alaska governors and absent a war or terror attack, oil revenues are going to remain low, so governing Alaska will be a zero sum game; doing something FOR someone is doing something TO someone else. That doesn’t make for those stratospheric popularity numbers she had when she was giving away billions. The speculation is that she will go on the “Important Republican” circuit raising money, eating rubber chicken and being a talking head. I frankly don’t know what she’s planning, it ain’t like we’re close though we do know each other and worked together for a while.

      Were I her, I wouldn’t take the chance of a close election and taking on Begich would be an existential battle for the national Democrats; they’d move Heaven and Earth to keep her from beating the Boy Senator. So, she either goes out into the World as I described, runs for Young’s seat if he decides to step down, or runs for Gov again, which she’d likely win but not in a landslide.

      • Finrod

        Look at Ford in 1976; a mediocre president leading a party that had been wiped out in the 1974 elections very nearly won. 2012 is a long way off, and Obama is going to have to own a lot of crap for the next 3 years. I wouldn’t put our chances at over 50 percent for knocking off Obama, not yet anyways, but I’d gladly put down $20 to anyone willing to give me 2:1 odds that Obama will be defeated in 2012.

        • Achance

          If they get that, the Red States will be under assault and most won’t stay Red long. The other issue is the fact that we’re being overwhelmed with money. We have become the Party of the small individual donation because we are left with private individuals and small businesses. Nobody associated with big businesses will dare cross the federal government for fear of coming to work one morning and finding those “Property of US Government, No Tresspassing” signs on the door of their office.

          Communists are very studious about their losses and their greatest political loss was losing Germany to the Nazis by allowing the Nazis to cozy up to Germany’s business and legal interests. The Democrats have long had the Bar and now they’ve either taken over or cowed the businesses. All they need now is card check and they can start eliminating their opposition.

      • Nick Haynes

        Just don’t get a chance to verbalize it much on here because of my job. Luckily, I’m leaving that in the fall for law school, so my tongue (or keyboard) has been loosed.

        One problem that we have with being workers and not organizers, like our ‘friends’ on the other side of the aisle, is that we have no clue on organization beyond maybe a business. With regards to politics, we tend to look at the big picture because that’s all that many of us have the time to pay attention to. We don’t tend to look at the smaller pictures and how they fit into the big picture. So, for us, creatures like Palin and Jindal emerge pristine from the wilderness, and become our Boy and Lady Wonders.

        Meanwhile, Dems have been mapping the path of Obama for a while now. He showed up big-time on the national scene at their convention in 2004, but party leaders and insiders had their eyes on him for a while and were just waiting for the stars to align and Obama to get a stage. Same thing with a lot of their young guns. If you look at the major lefty sites, you’ll find, amongst vitriol and dog-turds, a lot of engaged insiders at the local level who are networking and letting other fellow lefties know of the potential people to take the mantle once candidate or officeholder X is done. About 2 hours after Rahm had been tapped to be Barry’s CoS, there were already about 10 diaries up on who would replace him-some sloppy, but some very detailed-and surprisingly, about 4 of them from people who had probably never touched foot in Chicago, save for a dKos convention.

        So, to anyone reading this–get out there, let’s start working on getting this thing organized, and let’s start worrying about taking back Congress and the state legislatures (the home of legislation) in 2010 before we start worrying about who’s going to sign those bills come January 20, 2013.

    • RJD

      unless she is asked to testify before an energy committee or such panel.

      Here’s holding out hope that we (as a country) won’t elect another Senator for a very long time.

      • Nick Haynes

        I do have a problem with electing them if they have no elected executive experience. That’s the one thing that put Mitt, Huck, and Rudy above McCain and Fred (although Fred was my wistful #2 behind Romney). They had experience running a government and knew the pitfalls.

  • jerry38

    I believe there are multiple levels of media bias – designed to impact multiple levels of diligence among the population. So that while the mases believe the world will explode in a year or two due to global warming, there are many who don’t buy it all. But there are many of those, who don’t think the morning shows are biased, and can’t discern that their emotions are being manipulated by Hollywood – and so they are susecptible to a second level of more subtle bias. Then there are those in Washington, who know that everything is spin – yet they only see leftist spin day in and day out – and so they are swayed by being apart of the Washington Culture.

    Then there are those like us here at Redstate that take little for granted and trust almost no one. And so even I find myself succombing to the constant drumbeat to remove Palin from legitimacy.

    The only solution is to completely ignore the media – and teach others to do the same. We know that the more a public official is in line with our views – the more they will be vilified by the media. We must tune them out and we must circumvent their influence, if we ever want to see our views restored.

  • Achance

    about the NRA Gun presentation to Gov. Palin here: http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/newsreader/story/782820.html

    • redneck_hippie