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Will Obama kill GM’s last interesting cars?

Forget that G8; You need a Prius!

Government Motors(TM), the new automaker which will replace General Motors, has already experienced regime change at the direction of new CEO-in-chief Barack Obama. In light of some recent product mix realignment at GM, one has to wonder if POTUS is not calling the shots on GM’s model line-up as well.

Changes at Cadillac, Chevrolet and Pontiac, the GM divisions which were making interesting cars, don’t bode well for people who actually enjoy driving. Those who hate personal transportation and will only settle for boring automobiles as appliances only slightly more interesting than the standard kitchen toaster oven, however, will be pleased.

At Chevrolet, the Cobalt SS sedan will be dropped for the 2010 model year. Adios to the little pocket rocket with its 260-hp turbocharged four. GM had finally transformed the mediocre Cobalt into something fun to drive, but that didn’t last long. Until Ford’s new Focus RS comes stateside, the hopped-up little Chevy Sedan arguably provides the best bang for the buck in its class. Rumor has it that the coupe version will not survive the Obamunists’ axe, either.

Another bowtie brand casualty is the Impala SS, which means goodbye to the 5.3L V8 engine in in a front-wheel drive Chevy sedan. The hottest available Impala engine will be the lackadaisical 3.9L pushrod V6. Yawn… In truth, enthusiasts won’t miss the big SS that much. While it offers adequate power, the handling is just plain numb.

What will be missed is the HHR SS, which is due to meet the executioner in July of 2010. Styled like a 1949 Chevrolet Suburban in miniature, the retro-SUV is a surprisingly competent little box. With the turbo 2.0 four-banger mated to a slick 5-speed manual with no-lift shifting and launch control, it’s a blast to drive at a bargain price. Buh-bye.

Since the entire Pontiac brand is slated for the chopping block, we really shouldn’t be surprised that the G6 EXP model will be dropped before the division is phased out. This one is a no-brainer. GM designers ruined the basically clean lines of the smallish Pontiac by tarting it up with goofy-looking hood scoops and a hideous rear wing with the GXP body package. Although the 3.6-liter 252-hp V-6 is available in other G6 models, it does offer a few more horsepower in GXP tuning. No matter, as it’s a goner.

Perhaps the unkindest cut of all is that with the demise of the Pontiac brand, the future of the excellent G8 sedan is up in the air. This car, an American-spec version of a model from Australia’s Holden GM division, really is a bargain basement 5-series Beemer. The 6.0-liter L67 V-8 cranks out 361 horsepower and allows the very competent sedan to hit 60 mph in just 5.3 seconds. Not only that, but it has brakes and handling to match the acceleration. Hopefully, GM will simply re-badge it as a Buick and allow the model to continue stateside. That would be a great excuse to resurrect the Wildcat model name from Buick’s past, and besides, this car just has too much goodness to disappear from these shores. But if Obama and his automotive team (not a member of which knows the slightest thing about the car business) are calling the shots, then things don’t look promising.

Also on the outs is the Callilac STS-V with its 469 horsepower supercharged V8. Although the smaller CTS-V offers better performance at a considerable price savings, the demise of this model leaves the large luxury sedan customer who wants gobs of power with no place to go except Germany.

For now at least, the Camaro looks safe, which makes sense as the model was just recently introduced. And if Government Motors(TM) tries to do away with the Corvette, Obama and his fellow socialists may have an armed insurrection on their hands. As America’s only sports car (if you overlook the Dodge Viper, which may not survive Chrysler’s impending takeover by FIAT), it will not be an easy kill for the Obamunists. But they haff veys of getting what they want. “Look,” they will say, “the Tesla roadster has neck-snapping performance, and it’s all-electric.” Will GM be forced into making the legendary Vette a plug-in? Time will tell.

As more interesting models are dropped in favor of fuel efficient little tin cans, car buyers with a passion for driving will motor on past the GM showrooms to their friendly, local Ford dealer. There had better be some interesting cars at the sign of the blue oval, or they will go from there to Honda and Acura dealerships. With the aforementioned 305-hp Focus RS in the pipeline, the Taurus SHO with a 3.5 liter EcoBoost V6 slated to return in 2010, and the Fusion planned to get an EcoBoost four-cylinder displacing 2.0 liters in the next couple of years, Ford is looking to corner the domestic sports sedan market. It can do this. It will be saddled with no team of government overseers like GM will suffer under, and it will not be owned by a UAW-FIAT-Obamunist cabal, as with what will remain of Chrysler.

- JP

COMMENTS

  • bs

    Your definition of “interesting” varies from others. I could care less about horsepower. Completely, totally irrelevant.

    If you want to be subjective, I’ll tell you that there’s probably been a grand total of three GM cars that have a whit of attractiveness: 1) Corvette, 2) Camaro, 3) To some degree, the latest model year Malibu. The vast majority of the remainder of the GM lineup are without a doubt the ugliest group of vehicles to ever hit the road. And it’s been like that now since the late 60′s/early 70′s.

    From a pure aesthetics perspective, American roads will be far easier on the eyes if GM disappears.

    • Josh Painter

      in an automotive context means a car which rewards its driver with more thn just adequate acceleration; responsive and predictable handling; fade-free, straight-line braking in a better than reasonable distance; a chassis which is more than just competent; and a comfortable, supportive interior which doesn’t use materials that look like they came from the fleet truck parts bin.

      You may not care about horsepower, but there are plenty of us who do. More precisely, we care about horsepower-to-weight ratios. Power is not just a factor for thrill-seekers. A car should have enough power so that “slam on the brakes and pray” isn’t the only option a driver has to avoid a collision.

      Cars should also have appealing styling, but aesthetics is very subjective. All-around performance is a car enthusiast’s number one criterion. I’ve been a car nut for half a century. That the Plymouth Roadrunner had bland styling was one of its strong points. The looks just made it that much more of a “sleeper.”

      Personally,I think the most beautiful cars today are those made by Aston Martin. Many of the A-M “kinetic” styling cues will be seen in the next couple of years on Ford models from the Modeo (next-gen Fusion) on down the line to the Focus, Festiva and even the Fiesta.

      - JP

      • bs

        I seldom drive on the highway, and when I do, the only time I need to accelerate is on an entrance ramp.

        You like horsepower. I like gas mileage. You and others can continue to piss on Priuses, but frankly, I’d rather spend less $ on my car and subsidize the Middle East less and have a car that gets better mileage. I happen to think a Prius or a Volt or a Honda Fit are much more interesting than a big-ass V8. And by the way, I don’t give a flying flip what their carbon footprints are. I’m all about a lower gas card bill.

        The key is: keep the government out of the design and decision process.

        • Josh Painter

          My ’06 Fusion has a 3.0 V6 with only 240 hp, which is more than adequate to move a 3200-pound car around. It’s the car’s handling and comfort that sold me on it. I drove the Accord and the Camry, both of which had V6 engines with more horsepower. Unfortunately, both had rental-car nub steering and mushy chassis dynamics, which was a deal-killer for me.

          I would have purchased a four-cylinder Fusion if I had been able to find one with a manual trans (31 mpg) that I could afford. None were on the used car lots, so I would have been forced to buy a new one for just shy of 20 grand and take a big depreciation hit. I bought my ’06 used in 08 for just $12K. 8 grand will buy a lot of gasoline and insurance.

          When that model gets the 2.0 four-cylinder EcoBoost engine, it will have more horsepower AND get better fuel economy than my car with the V6. With the EcoBoost, Ford is looking to replace its gasoline-fueled V8s with V6s in the F-150 and V6s with fours in the Fusion.

          I find efficiency to be interesting, but only when the rest of the car is not boring. If a car trips all over itself on twisty two-lane blacktops, I have no use for it. And I wouldn’t be caught dead in a Fit, which would be a high-probabilty event if it collided with something larger, which means most other vehicles on the road.

          - JP

          • Rapunzel46

            depending on where you live and what you do some of us do need horsepower. Personally I think the idea of electric sucks on many levels, not the least of it not being truly “green.” The thought of $40K for a car you have to plug in every so many miles isn’t appealing and if it won’t pull my boat or a trailer or have room for ladders, or coolers, etc., it’s of no use to us. I think natural gas is the way to go… let people keep their muscle cars or their wimpy cars.

    • mbecker908

      A car that can be sold at a profit.

      • bk

        I think the whole thing’s a setup. We get GM to produce nothing but little sardine cans, then what comes next?
        1) Their CAFE rating goes through the roof.
        2) No one buys any of their cars.
        3) Legislation is introduced to set the CAFE standard for all manufacturers at 0.1mpg below what GM has attained for its cars nobody wants.

        Between card check to force the UAW in all plants and screwing with CAFE standards, just think how FAIR things will be!!

  • http://www.scottbomb.com scottbomb

    Out of principle, unless drastic changes are made (like restoring GM to stockholder ownership) I will never again buy a Government Motors vehicle. The same for Chrysler. As long as Ford doesn’t sell out, they will remain on my short list along with my personal favorites, Honda and Toyota.

    • mom2oneson

      and it’s the best car! It has over 300,000 miles the only problem is that it leaks oil. It has never broken down or giving me a hard time.

      • Raven

        But it has no problems other than those I impose on it by smashing it into stuff…

        And it has gotten me through some of the Nastiest weather I have ever seen. And, just as importantly, no one has ever been injured when it’s been smashed into things…

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    Saturn made really good cars with a fanatical following. But GM managed to blow it.

  • Josh Painter

    What was supposed to be an outside-of-the-box American line of cars has become nothing more than a badge to be affixed to various Opel, GMC, Chevy and Saab products.

    - JP

    • mbecker908

      GM designers bought a rash of Toyotas and dissembled them when they designed the damn thing. Roger Smith – the man who drove a stake into the heart of GM – said at the time he was going to build a “Japanese car”. And while it was OK, it was never as good as a Toyota or a Nissan. Or a Kia for that matter.

      And, I freely admit to being not objective at all about GM. I was in the auto parts business for a while and they were – and had been and still are – one of the the worst managed companies on earth.

      • mom2oneson

        I wanted a Toyota but the dealership was awful. They were not honest and tried to manipulate me by the salesman pretending to leave (with his jacket and stuff still at his area ) and when I finally left and then they kept calling me. I ended up going with Saturn because they just give you the price and they don’t try to make it difficult for you.

      • blooch

        a Trabant, but the trailer needed for the catalytic converter has proven to be a major hurdle, as the Obant cannot reach the minimum speed required on Interstate Highways. Two possible solutions are being considered: solar-powered motors on the trailer or a speed-limit reduction on the Interstate. CEObama is reportedly enchanted with both solutions.

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          • Achance

            Of course, the real Government Motors Gremlin won’t even be as attractive as the original because those thin chrome bumpers won’t meet today’s “safety” (make that idiot) standards.

          • $peciallist

            of your car by sticking some Surf-racks on it…..(or some Gun-racks)

          • blooch

            I wonder if you’ve tripped up avgamerican with your sig line yet LOL

          • LibRick

            those old Gremlins as examples of crappy US auto engineering. They were pretty bad but in those days Honda had the CVCC … a high mileage rattly rollerskate. Two people could pick it up and rotate it in a parking space…I actually did that once and the chassis tended to fall apart around the drivetrain.

      • Darin_H

        I owned a 1994 SC2 (coupe), that thing was chock full of cheap plastic, the handling was mush, but at least the engine was “peppy.” I didn’t see any difference between that car and any other cheap domestic coupe. It was certainly not comparable to any Japanese car. I ended up letting my parents trade in my car and taking their 1988 Accord when they were buying a new car way back then. A 6 year older vehicle was much better built, even with being the base model and me having to roll the windows down :)

  • Josh Painter

    Time to take that ’69 Boss 429 Mustang out of the garage, dust it off, and see whit it will fetch.

    - JP

  • izoneguy

    The only folks that will be buying GM – Chrysler are the same ones who bought into sub-prime loans…Obama will be able to cook the books for awhile and “sales” will appear to be up….In a year it will crash hard because all along those people were not paying for the cars…..
    Obama should be a juggler at the circus.

    • Raven

      I’m waiting for the Dodge Charger to be available for a price I’m willing to pay.
      And if all this keeps up, It’ll happen…

      • snewb098

        the hemi-cuda and the 383 road runner!

  • snewb098

    Weren’t SUV’s created for soccer moms so
    it would be easier to strap their children into those
    removeable seats without bending over and breaking their back?
    And weren’t these restraining seats mandated by law?
    The new GM cars will be smaller, less safe, low horsepower(which will do great at high altitudes) unable to tow anything etc.
    I did like the 1969 Camaro SS 396 with 350 horsepower.
    Now it’s Toyota for me.

    • abbynormal

      Car size and child seats won’t be a problem when you’re only allowed to have two carbon emitting children. When the taxes hit next year, families won’t be able to afford expensive sports programs for their kids, so no more soccer, swim, baseball, hockey moms hauling kids and equipment in their gas guzzling road hogs. A basketball will fit nicely in the trunk of your new Earth Friendly Obamacar. Sports fields will be converted to community gardens, and swimming pools filled in and converted to basketball courts.

      • Achance

        All the other sports are too male oriented and bring out agression that the socialist paradise can’t tolerate. Plus, all the equipment is too exclusionary. The government will issue soccer balls to everyone and production of all other sports equipment will cease. Likewise, there will be a General Issue sneaker because the competion for status in sneakers is antisocial as well.

    • The_Gadfly

      The SUV’s were built on a truck chassis instead of a car chassis so they didn’t break cafe standards for sedans the way the preferred station wagon did. But, yeah, same result. SUVs were the result of government outlawing the car American moms wanted to drive. It is true that most driving in the US is the daily commute, but you still have to work in the vacation, and the cars that maximize for the commute won’t cover that.

      • Rapunzel46

        SUV Chevy Suburban. Guess we won’t be trading it in for anything else for a good long time.

  • abbynormal

    The government will change all necessary laws to ensure GM becomes the #1 car seller in America.

    For instance, AP reports the Justice Department is ramping up its antitrust efforts: In a statement, Assistant Attorney General Christine Varney said the change is “the clearest way to let everyone know that the Antitrust Division will be aggressively pursuing cases where monopolists try to use their dominance in the marketplace to stifle competition and harm consumers.”

    Obama can direct new standards in emissions, safety, manufacturing, etc.. use tax dollars to retool factories, and sell at lower prices (with special govt. financing and/or rebates) than other manufacturers. I can even see him going so far as making ownership of cars that don’t meet new standards illegal, thus forcing the purchase of Government Motor cars.

  • izoneguy

    What – they gonna hold a gun to my head??
    Obama is opening another Pandoras box.
    The rest of the world will declare an open economic war
    on America – on all fronts if Obama and his thugs try
    car stunts like these….
    The faster Obama pushes – the faster he hastens his demise.

  • William_L

    ..until it is returned to private citizens..

    Make a deal with the devil, you’re going to loose. And, I will not support the UAW and their willing sellout politicians..

    FAIL!
    BYE!

    • mom2oneson

      “Make a deal with the devil, you?re going to loose.”

  • Darin_H

    Last month I had to say goodbye to my F-150 since the child seat didn’t fit in back, and I wasn’t about to put it in the front seat (even with turning off the airbag). So we did the ever-fun task of car shopping. I noticed how many Priuses (Priui?) were for sale at the Toyota dealers around, both new and used. There used to be a backlog of people waiting several months to buy them. The additional $8000 over a comparable Corolla just isn’t much of a draw these days I guess.

    BTW, we settled on a Honda Pilot – big enough for me over the CR-V and Toyota’s Highlander and Rav4, small enough for my wife over me wanting to go bigger towards the Expedition. Rides nice, seats 8, has good HP. We’re now an all-Honda family.

    I still miss my truck.

  • Achance

    The two Government Motors companies will be able to off-load their legacy costs to the taxpayers. No labor concessions will be tolerated in the bankruptcy reorganization of GM and Chrysler, so the labor cost bar will be set and GM and Chrysler will have the advantage of having off-loaded their retiree costs.

    Ford on the other hand, will be tortured by the government and the UAW if it does anything to control its labor costs or puts up any resistance to draconian CAFE and safety regulations. Ultimately, Ford will be forced into the government motors pattern or it will suffer such a price disadvantage that no matter how much people want to support Ford, they won’t pay to do it.

    As to the transplants, card check will put them in the same place as Ford. In the unlikely event that card check legislation is unsuccessful, the governments regulatory powers and taxation powers will bring them furrin’ companies to heel.

    It’s a brave new world. If you like real cars, buy one now, but you might have to hide it and only drive it late at night and way out in the country in a few years.

    • David123

      because that would decrease the supply of cars which should create an environment where at least Ford could survive profitably – as well as the American arms of Toyota, etc.

      If GM and Chrysler are kept alive artificially, that could/would create an environment where all the car companies eventually go splat.

  • LibRick

    would probably still be discontinued. I’ll admit that I’m a bleeding “Heart of America” guy when it comes to cars like the ‘Vette or Camaro. Sadly, Pontiac seems doomed in any scenario.

    It would be horrible to see some country like China buying the “brand” at a song and marketing Chicom muscle cars.

    • 6eorge Jetson

      but costs of ~$300 billion.

      Still, they have factories that can produce cars, and physical assets (e.g. land, buildings) worth something. Just not for $300 billion/year.

      There has to be some productive use of the ability to generate $260 billion. Perhaps in pieces sold to vultures, and certainly not providing the same salary manna as before.

      But it can’t be zero.

  • The_Gadfly

    but I still don’t like government telling us what we can buy, which is effectively what this bailout has done. No cars for me from any of the big 3 in the future no matter what name they wind up selling under. They sold out the American dream, they don’t get a dime from me if I can prevent it. They’re already getting too many that I can’t prevent.

  • DerKrieger

    Certainly not me. I won’t support either the Obama Motor Co. or the UAW directly now or ever. I have a Chevy Tahoe now and when it’s time to replace it it will be a Ford, maybe, or a “foreign” brand.

    And I only have anecdotal evidence to support this statement but Liberals don’t buy Big 3 vehicles. Conservatives do because we like trucks and SUV’s a lot more than the eco-guilt ridden Liberals, so if even a small fraction of us boycott GM and Chrysler, can they survive?

    • 6eorge Jetson

      and every car I have purchased has been from General Motors.

      However, I’m sure my dad is rolling in his grave over Government Motors.
      When Govt Motors loses loyal customers like me, who will be left? I had my eye on the G8 & Camaro for my next car (still a couple of years away for this somewhat frugal guy), but I’m not liking what I see coming out of this situation.

  • 1stRichard

    First I can tell some of you have little clue about driving. You certainly have no clue what it is like to have the secondaries of a Q-Jet go WOT under your right foot. Nor do you know if the car you are driving now has understeer or oversteer. As an old ?Gear Head? I have been attacked by the government since the 70?s and for those that have unplugged your EGR only to find a burnt valve you know this to be true. There was the Energy Tax Act of 1978 instituted a Gas Guzzler Tax and now we have the government directly involved with the production of automobiles. More importantly this is almost a religion that is being attacked, for some and a true American symbol as important as the US flag that is about to be lost. It would be a true tragedy if this was lost and a blatant attack on individuality. I consider such actions taken by our government as treason and sedition, such social engineering is totally unacceptable.

    • Achance

      as much as I love it, is something I really, really try to avoid hearing! My boat has twin GM 305s with Q-jets, and I can almost afford the gas if I stay out of those secondaries. I have to open them up to get it up on plane, but I try to always keep out of them when cruising.

      • 1stRichard

        I think it is sweet music and the Q-Jet has much better fuel economy then a double pumper. When you get up to a 4 bolt 400 and over a half inch cam you really start to feel it, totally addicting. If you are getting that bad fuel economy you may have the wrong setup. A well tuned Q-Jet can get as close as one MPG to a closed loop EFI. Unfortunately there are only a handful of us that knows how to do this, a sort of lost art.

        • Achance

          It’s just there is no loafing or off power time with a marine engine pushing 10-12, 000 pounds of boat THROUGH the water; the engine is heavily loaded at all times. Mine will cruise at 23-25 smph at about 33-3400 rpm, which is just below where the secondaries want to start opening, so I keep it there usually. Get over that “sweet spot” cruising speed and fuel usage goes up exponentially. Mine will cruise at about 10 gph/engine, but that can easily go to 20+ gph/engine if you push it hard and it is heavily loaded or dealing with heavy wind and wave action.

  • gigi36b

    When you have four kids that require 2 hockey bags and a stroller, the only option for transportation is a Suburban. Believe me, we tried a smaller SUV, but nothing could hold it all.
    How is all this supposed to fit into a Gremlin?
    I don’t support Ford currently, as they are Planned Parenthood supporters and I’m not buying a family hauler from them. I’m not supporting Government Motors when this Suburban gives up the ghost either.
    What is left? Toyota? Will other foreign car companies step up to fill the void?

  • Josh Painter

    there are times when they all come to visit. In the case of my sister and b-i-l, sometimes only the Ford Expedition has enough room.

    - JP