Comments on: SarahPAC raised $733,000 in five months http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/ Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:56:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Scope http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6851 Scope Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:47:43 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6851 for 2010. If Palin spends the next year and a half going to as many places in the country, speaking for Conservatives, and Conservative ideas and principles, unshackled by McCain and his" talk nice about Obama" staffers, and speaks out loudly and convincingly about the destruction that Obama and his Liberals are creating, she has my support. If she can help defeat the Liberal majorities in the House and Senate in 2010, she will be a major player in the future. The TEA parties are not just populated by Republicans, they are attracting those that want to take our country back to sanity, and they are people from all parties. When Palin said that she will support "Conservatives" in any party, or those that have no party affiliation, she is speaking to a much wider audience than just the 40% who polled as Conservative, and hopefully she will expand the tent without giving up her Conservative principles to do it. If Palin can accomplish that, the field of candidates for the 2012 primaries will shrink drastically. If Palin does what I suspect she will, she would never have been able to do anything while strapped to her Governors chair in Alaska until sometime in 2010. for 2010. If Palin spends the next year and a half going to as many places in the country, speaking for Conservatives, and Conservative ideas and principles, unshackled by McCain and his” talk nice about Obama” staffers, and speaks out loudly and convincingly about the destruction that Obama and his Liberals are creating, she has my support. If she can help defeat the Liberal majorities in the House and Senate in 2010, she will be a major player in the future. The TEA parties are not just populated by Republicans, they are attracting those that want to take our country back to sanity, and they are people from all parties. When Palin said that she will support “Conservatives” in any party, or those that have no party affiliation, she is speaking to a much wider audience than just the 40% who polled as Conservative, and hopefully she will expand the tent without giving up her Conservative principles to do it. If Palin can accomplish that, the field of candidates for the 2012 primaries will shrink drastically. If Palin does what I suspect she will, she would never have been able to do anything while strapped to her Governors chair in Alaska until sometime in 2010.

]]> By: Section9 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6850 Section9 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:29:31 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6850 Please stop repeating Known Facts as if Saying So Makes Them So. Pennsylvania was gone after the Lehman Brothers meltdown. McCain got out there and destroyed his campaign by saying that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong". Obama jumped ugly on him and that was that. The polling separation after September 15th is remarkable. Palin could have given the Sermon on the Mount, guest starring Jesus Christ the Righteous and McCain wouldn't have carried PA. McCain was also dragging the Bush Anchor around him. Blaming Palin, when she probably juiced PA evangelicals and the rural vote, is stupid. Without her, PA probably would have been worse. Please stop repeating Known Facts as if Saying So Makes Them So.

Pennsylvania was gone after the Lehman Brothers meltdown. McCain got out there and destroyed his campaign by saying that the “fundamentals of the economy are strong”. Obama jumped ugly on him and that was that. The polling separation after September 15th is remarkable.

Palin could have given the Sermon on the Mount, guest starring Jesus Christ the Righteous and McCain wouldn’t have carried PA.

McCain was also dragging the Bush Anchor around him.

Blaming Palin, when she probably juiced PA evangelicals and the rural vote, is stupid. Without her, PA probably would have been worse.

]]> By: Section9 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6849 Section9 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:19:19 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6849 ....while Mittens, with all his money, draws flies to an event for Chris Christie. Like, fifty people showed up. Nice going, Mittens. So, how's that ground network treating you? Mittens reminds me of the <i>absolutely awesome</i> George Allen for President Network that I saw coming out of CPAC in 2006. Lots of presence, funny speech at CPAC. Then he gets beaten by the cat hair in the VA senate race by Webb. Allen had great wonkish ideas and loads of experience, but he was <i>not</i> the Next Reagan. He had boatloads of writers at NRO and W/S touting him as the Next Reagan, too. ….while Mittens, with all his money, draws flies to an event for Chris Christie. Like, fifty people showed up.

Nice going, Mittens.

So, how’s that ground network treating you?

Mittens reminds me of the absolutely awesome George Allen for President Network that I saw coming out of CPAC in 2006. Lots of presence, funny speech at CPAC. Then he gets beaten by the cat hair in the VA senate race by Webb.

Allen had great wonkish ideas and loads of experience, but he was not the Next Reagan. He had boatloads of writers at NRO and W/S touting him as the Next Reagan, too.

]]> By: Section9 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6848 Section9 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:12:51 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6848 Where did it get us? That's what she's saying. Yes, she's ambitious. See that white courtesy telephone over there that's ringing? If you pick it up, Captain Obvious will be on the other end. She is trying to tell the Washington G.O.P. that she intends to lead a conservative takeover of the Party from the deadheads and the Big Government Bushtards (I'm talking to you, David Gerson!) who have run the Party into the ground. Okay, so she gave 5 grand to Johnnie Mac and Murkowski. We need the numbers in the Senate, and she actually owes McCain her notoriety. But her point is taken. Where did it get us?

That’s what she’s saying. Yes, she’s ambitious. See that white courtesy telephone over there that’s ringing? If you pick it up, Captain Obvious will be on the other end.

She is trying to tell the Washington G.O.P. that she intends to lead a conservative takeover of the Party from the deadheads and the Big Government Bushtards (I’m talking to you, David Gerson!) who have run the Party into the ground.

Okay, so she gave 5 grand to Johnnie Mac and Murkowski. We need the numbers in the Senate, and she actually owes McCain her notoriety.

But her point is taken.

]]> By: Scope http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6846 Scope Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:12:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6846 that share Palins values and principles. There aren't any. If they did share her social values, or national defence positions, they would be Republicans or Conservatives. Even the Blue Dogs no longer vote in favor of fiscal responsibility. Wait and see who she campaigns for and/or supports with her PAC monies, before you write her off. that share Palins values and principles. There aren’t any. If they did share her social values, or national defence positions, they would be Republicans or Conservatives. Even the Blue Dogs no longer vote in favor of fiscal responsibility. Wait and see who she campaigns for and/or supports with her PAC monies, before you write her off.

]]> By: Scope http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6847 Scope Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:12:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6847 that share Palins values and principles. There aren't any. If they did share her social values, or national defence positions, they would be Republicans or Conservatives. Even the Blue Dogs no longer vote in favor of fiscal responsibility. Wait and see who she campaigns for and/or supports with her PAC monies, before you write her off. that share Palins values and principles. There aren’t any. If they did share her social values, or national defence positions, they would be Republicans or Conservatives. Even the Blue Dogs no longer vote in favor of fiscal responsibility. Wait and see who she campaigns for and/or supports with her PAC monies, before you write her off.

]]> By: 6eorge Jetson http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6845 6eorge Jetson Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:20:48 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6845 which keeps leftists from asking what the War <s>On</s> For Poverty has done to its <s>beneficiaries</s> victims over the past 40+ years? which keeps leftists from asking what the War On For Poverty has done to its beneficiaries victims over the past 40+ years?

]]> By: Rod_Patrick http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6844 Rod_Patrick Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:59:05 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6844 No one except the two Bushes and Clinton will match the sterling experience of Obama as POTUS by 2012: 4 YEARS OF DIRECT EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE AS POTUS. So, Obama! Obama! Obama! [Oh, Huckabee (the TV star), and Romney (experience e.g., RomneyCare) ,etc. will still be found "wanting".] Thank God that my frame of mind is like this: Anyone who hasn't EXPERIENCED yet in participating with the destruction of American Economy and Culture is WAY WAY BETTER than the EXPERIENCED ones. Obama proved that the "lack of direct experience" in Iraq War was indeed an advantage and qualification enough. But that's just me. No one except the two Bushes and Clinton will match the sterling experience of Obama as POTUS by 2012:

4 YEARS OF DIRECT EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE AS POTUS. So,

Obama! Obama! Obama!

[Oh, Huckabee (the TV star), and Romney (experience e.g., RomneyCare) ,etc. will still be found "wanting".]

Thank God that my frame of mind is like this:

Anyone who hasn’t EXPERIENCED yet in participating with the destruction of American Economy and Culture is WAY WAY BETTER than the EXPERIENCED ones.

Obama proved that the “lack of direct experience” in Iraq War was indeed an advantage and qualification enough.

But that’s just me.

]]> By: aesthete http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6843 aesthete Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:18:49 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6843 Perhaps if this had been presented (and put in context) with 2010 in mind, I would be more inclined to agree: I believe that I've posted elsewhere my opinion that SP's activities in relation to 2010 or the current political scene are worthy of a diary. However, the way that the material was presented (as a p***ing contest between Sarah Palin and Romney) inevitably sets the diary up as a 2012 diary. Certainly, that's what I got from the diary, and, judging by the subject material of the comments on the thread, that's what most others got out of it, even if you remove all of the comments from and responding to adamy. I don't mind a little bit of talk on 2012, but at this critical juncture, and when we have already had this discussion several times, I don't see much reason to post what is a piece of news of negligible impact for the moment in a way that will rekindle the useless 2012 debate that we've already had. Again, sorry for using the word, "wrong", don't want to impugn your reputation by making it look like I was questioning your morality, but I stand by the sentiment behind my statement. I love your sig, btw. Can't have too much RA Heinlein :) Perhaps if this had been presented (and put in context) with 2010 in mind, I would be more inclined to agree: I believe that I’ve posted elsewhere my opinion that SP’s activities in relation to 2010 or the current political scene are worthy of a diary. However, the way that the material was presented (as a p***ing contest between Sarah Palin and Romney) inevitably sets the diary up as a 2012 diary. Certainly, that’s what I got from the diary, and, judging by the subject material of the comments on the thread, that’s what most others got out of it, even if you remove all of the comments from and responding to adamy. I don’t mind a little bit of talk on 2012, but at this critical juncture, and when we have already had this discussion several times, I don’t see much reason to post what is a piece of news of negligible impact for the moment in a way that will rekindle the useless 2012 debate that we’ve already had.

Again, sorry for using the word, “wrong”, don’t want to impugn your reputation by making it look like I was questioning your morality, but I stand by the sentiment behind my statement.

I love your sig, btw. Can’t have too much RA Heinlein :)

]]> By: aesthete http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6842 aesthete Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:55:18 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6842 Don't want to sound like I'm endorsing his viewpoint, or anything. Don’t want to sound like I’m endorsing his viewpoint, or anything.

]]> By: keeper http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6841 keeper Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:44:17 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6841 for only 2 and half years and then resigned. She has not the experience, the discipline or leadership qualities to make a good President. She has a certain appeal to people I'll not deny that but this alone does not make for good leadership, we have Obama proving that point right now. If you intend to support Palin as a serious contender for 2012 then you'll have to do much better in convincing people that she has the experience and fortitude to take on the job as President. for only 2 and half years and then resigned. She has not the experience, the discipline or leadership qualities to make a good President. She has a certain appeal to people I’ll not deny that but this alone does not make for good leadership, we have Obama proving that point right now. If you intend to support Palin as a serious contender for 2012 then you’ll have to do much better in convincing people that she has the experience and fortitude to take on the job as President.

]]> By: Josh Painter http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6840 Josh Painter Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:41:49 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6840 This was a legitimate political news item, and I posted it knowing that many of our members would be interested in what her PAC did over the past five months. Lately, I've been putting my Palin posts down in the member diaries, which I will continue to do, unless they are Front Page news. Nearly every major legacy news outlet and many blogs, both left and right, mentioned this story. I linked to the ones I considered to have the best information. This story is relevant to the 2010 elections in that Palin will be campaigning for and raising money for many of the 2010 candidates, as will Romney, Huckabee, Jindal, Barbour and Gingrich. I worked in journalism, back when it still was jounalism, for over two decades. I believe i know when a story is newsworthy. So I'll thank you not to say I'm "wrong" to post what I post here. - JP - JP This was a legitimate political news item, and I posted it knowing that many of our members would be interested in what her PAC did over the past five months.

Lately, I’ve been putting my Palin posts down in the member diaries, which I will continue to do, unless they are Front Page news. Nearly every major legacy news outlet and many blogs, both left and right, mentioned this story. I linked to the ones I considered to have the best information.

This story is relevant to the 2010 elections in that Palin will be campaigning for and raising money for many of the 2010 candidates, as will Romney, Huckabee, Jindal, Barbour and Gingrich.

I worked in journalism, back when it still was jounalism, for over two decades. I believe i know when a story is newsworthy. So I’ll thank you not to say I’m “wrong” to post what I post here.

- JP

- JP

]]> By: Flagstaff http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6839 Flagstaff Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:39:44 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6839 I was expecting rambling and incoherent. Maybe this is the first assignment in her Higher Calling, even though she hasn't left office yet. Since she doesn't have a contract to write for a particular syndicate, she can write for <b>anybody</b>. I was expecting rambling and incoherent.

Maybe this is the first assignment in her Higher Calling, even though she hasn’t left office yet. Since she doesn’t have a contract to write for a particular syndicate, she can write for anybody.

]]> By: Josh Painter http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6838 Josh Painter Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:30:30 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6838 are two items right of the Democrat Party list of Anti-Palin talking points. The only people who use them are leftists and Vichy Republicans. Which one are you? Go read her Twitter page and you will that she is interested in and curious about things to the same degree as any governor, if not more so, given her state's uniqueness. If you want to criticize her *record*, that is fair game. Tell us what bills she signed that you believe she should have vetoed and vice versa. Go to her ontheissues.org page and learn something about her. Then come back here and debate her on her record - not on this bogus moby crap you keep spewing. - JP are two items right of the Democrat Party list of Anti-Palin talking points. The only people who use them are leftists and Vichy Republicans. Which one are you?

Go read her Twitter page and you will that she is interested in and curious about things to the same degree as any governor, if not more so, given her state’s uniqueness.

If you want to criticize her *record*, that is fair game. Tell us what bills she signed that you believe she should have vetoed and vice versa. Go to her ontheissues.org page and learn something about her. Then come back here and debate her on her record - not on this bogus moby crap you keep spewing.

- JP

]]> By: Vegas_Rick http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6837 Vegas_Rick Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:19:06 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6837 It was a good weekend for online discussion. :) It was a good weekend for online discussion. :)

]]> By: Vegas_Rick http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6836 Vegas_Rick Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:17:22 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6836 If you ever had any. Good night. If you ever had any.

Good night.

]]> By: aesthete http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6835 aesthete Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:17:13 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6835 I don't mind a little bit of chatter on such things in moderation, but the daily back-and-forth that we're having on Redstate is, IMO, stopping more productive conversation on logistics/fundraising/candidates from occurring. Yesterday was a godsend, because there was little talk of Palin, but a LOT of talk about 2010, thanks to Moe's excellent diary :) Addressing it to you was a bad call on my part though, and I apologize if my singling you out offended you. Your comment just happened to be the closest one on-hand for me to pontificate on SP vs. 2010, so I hope that you'll apologize my indulgence. I suppose that it's wasted effort on my part, as those who need to hear it the most, such as the more ardent Palinistas and our self-styled Captain Ahabs, are those who are least inclined to listen. You were fine, though. Sorry for my hijack of your post: it was unfair of me to tar you with the Palinbot brush. I don’t mind a little bit of chatter on such things in moderation, but the daily back-and-forth that we’re having on Redstate is, IMO, stopping more productive conversation on logistics/fundraising/candidates from occurring. Yesterday was a godsend, because there was little talk of Palin, but a LOT of talk about 2010, thanks to Moe’s excellent diary :) Addressing it to you was a bad call on my part though, and I apologize if my singling you out offended you. Your comment just happened to be the closest one on-hand for me to pontificate on SP vs. 2010, so I hope that you’ll apologize my indulgence.

I suppose that it’s wasted effort on my part, as those who need to hear it the most, such as the more ardent Palinistas and our self-styled Captain Ahabs, are those who are least inclined to listen.

You were fine, though. Sorry for my hijack of your post: it was unfair of me to tar you with the Palinbot brush.

]]> By: azaeroprof http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6834 azaeroprof Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:14:26 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6834 Hopefully <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/13/AR2009071302852.html">this</a> will work! Hopefully this will work!

]]> By: keeper http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6833 keeper Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:14:20 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6833 I said 'I do hope she was able to develop some ground network' from the experience. Her national celebrity has also helped but she reminds me of another national celebrity empty suit politician but he actually made it to the White House so perhaps there is hope for her after all. I said ‘I do hope she was able to develop some ground network’ from the experience. Her national celebrity has also helped but she reminds me of another national celebrity empty suit politician but he actually made it to the White House so perhaps there is hope for her after all.

]]> By: azaeroprof http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/2009/07/13/sarahpac-raised-733000-in-five-months/#comment-6832 azaeroprof Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:13:14 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/josh_painter/?p=1552#comment-6832 I don't have a link for it, and WaPo is one of those idiotic newspapers that requires a subscription to read their online news. But I just saw a facebook post from Sarah Palin reprinting (or pre-printing?) an op-ed for WaPo on Obama's cap and trade fiasco. It is well-written, well-thought out, and represents her well. I don’t have a link for it, and WaPo is one of those idiotic newspapers that requires a subscription to read their online news. But I just saw a facebook post from Sarah Palin reprinting (or pre-printing?) an op-ed for WaPo on Obama’s cap and trade fiasco. It is well-written, well-thought out, and represents her well.

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