Reagan Voted for FDR


Cross Posted at Josh LeGuern On Politics

Ronald Reagan is the greatest President of the 20th century. His presidency and policies brought about three decades of unprecedented success, peace (at home for the most part), and prosperity this country has ever known. There is something that people forget about Reagan though, he was at one time a Democrat who voted for FDR and as a Democrat, he believed he was a great President.

Reagan, of course, would later renounce the Democratic Party and not only embrace conservatism, but become the leader of the conservative movement.

Michael Steele isn’t likely to become the next leader of the conservative movement, but he can’t seem to escape that he once worked with former New Jersey Governor Christine Todd Whitman, an infamously liberal Republican, on the Republican Leadership Council. In fact, following his criticism of Rush Limabugh during an interrogation by CNN’s resident comedian D.L. Hughley (who, by the way, has no business hosting a news show), Erick Erickson referred to Michael Steele was a “Christine Todd Whitman-Republican” when listing a group of “so-called conservatives” who criticize Rush right here on RedState.

With all due respect to Mr. Erickson, I am going to have to disagree with this assesment. Michael Steele has had a tough week, there’s no doubt about that, but I have no reason to doubt Mr. Steele is a conservative. He  articulated what conservatism is all about week after week on “Hannity & Colmes.” While there is some confusion with whether or not he is a moderate on some issues, throughout the campaign for RNC Chairman, Mr. Steele gave a point-by-point, issue-by-issue summary of where he stands. There are defintely a few minor differences (For example, Mr. Steele is opposed to gay marriage, but also opposed to a federal amendment to ban it), but overall Steele fits comfortably into the 80% conservative bracket and a past link to Christine Todd Whitman is pretty silly, considering Reagan actually voted for FDR in the past, and the RedState editor’s choice for RNC Chairman, Ken Blackwell actually voted for Jimmy Carter in the 1976. (For the record, I also think Mr. Blackwell would have been a fine RNC Chairman.) Michael Steele is sufficiently conservative, and he believes conservative principles are what is going to bring the party back as he’s said many times. The “hip-hop” comments were nothing more than his effort to try and take the conservative message to people it hasn’t been taken to before. Which is smart and refreshing, I’ve heard party activists in the past say minority voters are unwinmnable because we don’t believe in giving out handouts. This is the most condescening and ignorant comments I’ve ever heard, as Rush Limbaugh has said, most people live their lives conservatively in one way or another, we need to at least present our argument to everyone, that is what Steele was saying.

What’s really bad is the Democrats are accomplishing what they want accomplished. They’re turning the party heads on Rush, and then pitting the party heads against the bloggers: divide and conquer. That is the Democrat’s goal, they want to make sure we destroy ourselves by fighting amongst ourselves. A rift between conservatives and moderates? Mission accomplished. Now their goal is to create rifts within the conservative movement. This is straight out of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals.” Now there is talk that party activists want Steele dumped. The guy’s been on the job for a little more than a month, I think we can give him a little bit of time before we start the excommunication process. Besides could you imagine the field day the Democrats would have with the Republicans dumping their first black chairman? While I would absolutely support dumping Steele if he was not sufficiently conservative, damn the consequences, it would be a terrible PR move for the GOP. But I don’t think that’s a problem, because I think Steele is sufficiently conservative and I think it’s a mistake for bloggers and party activists to call for his head because he used to work with Christine Todd Whitman as a conservative voice on a moderate Republican council and made a gaffe about Rush Limbaugh. Let’s not forget, we’ve all made mistakes, even Ronald Reagan voted for FDR.


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We need to become familiar with Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

Praying (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 1:21PM EDT (link)

because we need to know how to fight this very well orchestrated attack strategy. Speaking of Rush, yesterday he pointed out that Alinsky never thought he would actually win, so his entire book focuses on waging the battle, and not what to do once you’ve won. This is why Obama continues to “campaign” – to lead the fight, the attack. The conservatives need to make damn sure that they are NOT successful at turning this against us. Let them break apart and destroy their own party (there are the beginnings of this) but do NOT let them destroy us!

No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming

Doing so , you will gain insight into both Hillary and the Obamiacs nt

olsmithie (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 1:32PM EDT (link)

Alinsky will give you good insight into the tactics

Achance (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 1:48PM EDT (link)

but not necessarily the objectives. Often the objective is merely provocation. Alinsky’s stock in trade was provoking otherwise sane people to go nuts and over-react. Usually, in dealing with an Alinsky disciple, you do nothing in response. Then they do something more radical to try to get you to respond, and you do nothing. Doing nothing cause them to ramp it up trying to provoke you until they do something crazy enough that you can smash them for it. Of course, there is often collateral damage.

When I was first given supervision of the State’s labor relations program, my task was to get a particular AFSCME rep “off my back and out of my building” in the words of the Democrat who hired me. I got him by ignoring him until he did something that nobody could defend. The union fired him but in the process three shop stewards also got fired for doing what he told them. The union could have probably saved their jobs but only by doing a mea culpa for what the rep did and, of course, they’d rather just see the rank and filers get fired.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

If Michael Steele was familiar with the "Rules for Radicals" he never would have fallen for the bait!!!!....

Attack Mode (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 1:40PM EDT (link)

And the truth of the matter is that Michael Steele may indeed be personally conservative, but as a leader he seems to be unwilling to stand up for conservatism. This is more than likely due to the influence of the Christie Todd Whitman types. The “moderates” are not even true moderates, they don’t moderate their beliefs, they capitulate to the beliefs of others, sometimes conservatives, sometime liberals.

These types have gained non-proportional representation within our party ranks by campaigning with our values and voting with the enemy. They are complicit in our current minority status.

Steele better pull his head out of his a$$ and start representing us or he will reign over another few cycles of electoral losses.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

What's amazing to me is that someone who aspires

Achance (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 2:03PM EDT (link)

to leadership as a national level Republican ISN’T familiar with Alinsky and the post-modernist philosophers. If you deal with lefties, you MUST be facile with this stuff or you are simply playing in a league beyond your abilities.

Your major opposition as a Republican in The South and some of the remaining mid-western and western Red states may well be old-fashioned, relatively conservative FDR/JFK – style Democrats. In the true Blue states, your major opposition is the hardcore left mostly in the form of public employee unions. In dealing with the big national public employee unions, your knowledge of communist dogma is MUCH more important than your knowledge of labor law and practice.

In Vino Veritas

Ain't that the truth...

AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 4:59PM EDT (link)

As angry and frustrated as I am one of the biggest sources of my angst is that the Dems pull the same coin from behind Republican’s ears and Republicans in leadership haven’t caught on yet that the Dems didn’t really pick the coin from their ear!

As the good book says:

As a dog returns to it’s vomit…so a fool returns to his folly!

It’s one of my favorite quotes about Republican leadership because they keep getting caught in the same traps.

MarkTwain 3

 
 
 

More than Just a Gaffe

Right Reason (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 2:16PM EDT (link)

Steele’s remark was more than just a gaffe to me. If he said it, somewhere in his head he thought it. Not all conservatives like Rush, but I daresay that none consider what he says “ugly”. Steele’s first instinct should have been to explain how Obama’s policies were contrary to America’s best interests. THAT is how a true conservative INTINCTIVELY would have answered. It’s not so much the remark that gets me, it’s that Steele conceded the point so readily.

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

- Winston Churchill

All Conservatives DO Agree With Rush

Spartan4Life (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 2:44PM EDT (link)

Maybe not all Republicrats. Don’t mix the two up.

Agree, yes. Like, maybe not.

Right Reason (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 4:43PM EDT (link)

Though usually it’s because they don’t listen to him and form their opinions based upon the media.

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

- Winston Churchill

 
 
 

We're all on the same page.

J. Leg (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 2:37PM EDT (link)

Hughley asked Steele a question about Limbaugh, for him to go off on Obama would have seemed out of place and odd. I would have been fine with a response like, “Rush is one of the voices out there, but he’s not the only voice, he’s not the only leader of the Republican Party. I am a leader, Reps. Boehner and Cantor are leaders, the Republican Governors are leaders, and we’re all on the same page in regards to wanting to see the American people succeed.”

And Steele HAS talked about how Obama’s policies would be harmful to the country, multiple times on his many media appearences.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, we’re all on the same page here. The leadership in Washington may not be willing to out and out say they want Obama to fail, but they are showing that they want his agenda to fail by voting against it time and time again. Steele may not out and out say he wants Obama to fail, but he is being fiercly critical of the President’s policies.

The media is trying to drive a wedge between all of us, and we’re falling for it. We need to get behind Rush, we need to get behind Steele, we need to get behind our leaders in Congress and the Republican Governors (minus one here in Kalifornia.) We need to stand together so that we can stop this madness in 2010.

But that's NOT what he said

Right Reason (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 4:54PM EDT (link)

What he said was, “Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh’s whole thing is entertainment,” Steele told CNN. “Yes, it is incendiary. Yes, it is ugly.”

That, to me, puts Steele’s conservative bona fides in doubt. I’m not at the point of saying he needs to go, but he’s got to do some work to prove himself to me.

As far as the wedge thing goes, I’m not getting behind ANYONE just because they have an R after their name. That is a big part of what got us into this situation. If they want my support, they can EARN it. Fight for the things I believe in. Not just talk, but action. The stimulus vote was a start, but its only one vote after years of caving.

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

- Winston Churchill

 
 

Reagan's past is different from Steele's.

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 6:07AM EDT (link)

Steele is already a long-time insider. He should know better.

In contrast, when Reagan learned about conservatism, he became captivated and “in love” with it. He became a “new person”. Once he married conservatism, he never left her side till the day he died. You know the full story.

The main problem of many Republicans today, is their “lukewarm” love for the principles of conservatism, which is inexcusable. Many of us have been guilty of adultery and fornication to the beauty of liberalism and socialism.