The Case Against Ken Blackwell


Vowing to lead a conservative resurgence and political realignment like none before, landslide loser Ken Blackwell is among the top contenders vying for the Chairmanship of the Republican National Committee. For whatever reason – political celebrity or perhaps his near-perennial candidacy – Blackwell’s record has, by and large, remained unexamined. That ends now.

Before he wasted his entire media budget in his failed bid for Governor – resulting in an embarrassing 24 point loss – but after he supported Jimmy Carter for President in 1976, Ken Blackwell, a Senior Fellow for Family Empowerment at the socially conservative Family Research Council, held shares in Barr Pharmaceuticals, one of the largest American-based producers of the Plan B drug, or “Morning-After Pill,” designed to prevent unwanted pregnancies. The FRC, who promises to keep the Obama administration in check on matters related to abortion, maintains that the controversial drug presents a “clear and present danger” to women’s health, though this “grave threat” was evidently of little concern to Blackwell when building his multimillion dollar portfolio. In addition to his substantial holdings with Barr, Blackwell held shares of the Nevada-based International Game Technology Corporation (ITG). ITG is the leading producer of slot machines and coincidentally was an ardent advocate for their legalization in Ohio, a constitutional amendment Blackwell ostensibly opposed. How Blackwell, who opposes both abortion and the legal expansions of gambling, reconciles his conscience and pocketbook is a talent known only to life-long politicians. His confusing investments can only be explained as such: Blackwell is a poor manager, further evidenced by his latest campaign, or these raging hypocrisies, an all-too frequent charge levied against Republicans, are of no concern to the would-be Chairman. Either way, I’m thoroughly dissatisfied with his crippling inability to maintain consistency, in theory and practice.

If we’re to argue, as many would seemingly prefer, that an undying loyalty to conservative ideology is paramount to leading the RNC, why then would any self-respecting conservative support Ken Blackwell? On Monday’s candidate forum sponsored by Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform, Blackwell offered this duplicitous gem, saying, “Our candidates have either run a campaign like Jimmy Carter and then govern like Jimmy Carter or they’ve campaigned like Ronald Reagan and they govern like Jimmy Carter.” But to quote Jim Geraghty, “Let he who has never voted for Carter cast the first stone.” According to the Columbus Dispatch, Blackwell’s aversion to all things Carter is evidently post-1976: Crossing party-lines, Blackwell supported peanut farmer-extraordinaire Jimmy Carter.

“I know how to raise money and I know how to win,” the overconfident former Ohio Secretary of State crowed on Monday. While Blackwell certainly knows how to spend money, I remain unconvinced on the other two counts. The Blackwell campaign, after months of hemorrhaging cash, had all-but ceded the ad war to Democrat Ted Strickland’s campaign by mid-September and remained off the airwaves for a total of six weeks. Performing worse than any GOP gubernatorial candidate since 1912, Blackwell lost to Strickland by one of the most lopsided margins in modern political campaigns – 24 points.

Before he entered the annals of the worst campaigns in American history, Blackwell did win something: Ohio Secretary of State. But all things must come to an end, and Blackwell wasn’t content leaving without some level of controversy. In breaking from the basic tenants of fiscal conservatism, Blackwell divvied out $80,000 in executive-level severance pay to employees his successor refused to keep on staff. Tax payer-funded government coffers, like the RNC’s funds, should never be used to buy loyalty.

Unfortunately, smear campaigns are a sad reality of politics, but they’re evidently a staple of Blackwell campaigns, too. An email originating from an Ohio Republican Party consultant, sent to an undisclosed number of GOP supporters with instructions to forward, cast grave aspersions on the character and sexual orientation of Blackwell’s Democratic challenger, Ted Strickland, and his wife. In addition to directly questioning his sexuality, the email accuses Strickland of being “soft on those who sexually assault children.” How is this, my friends, honorable campaigning? Moreover, why sacrifice our principles only to lose?

Nothing, from his poorly managed, divisive campaigns or the raging inconsistencies with regard to his social and fiscal conservative bona fides, convinces me that Blackwell is prepared to assume the top Republican post. Ken Blackwell is the wrong man to lead the RNC.

Cross-posted at Skepticians.com.

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I hope....

Josh LeGuern Wednesday, January 7th at 1:20AM EST (link)

….we’re doing a “A Case Against….” all the candidates running for chairman. So far the two we’ve done are on the black candidates running for the job. I’m not accusing RedState of anything, I’m just saying it gives ammo to the media.

I sincerely hope this is not being done because there are some conservatives fearing we’re embracing “identity politics”

The fact of the matter is, Michael Steele and Ken Blackwell along with Saul Azunis are the only candidates who “get it” and are two of the three people this humble poster believes are the best people for the job.

Spare me

bs Wednesday, January 7th at 1:24AM EST (link)

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority here support either Steele or Blackwell and probably a somewhat smaller % for Saul.

Decorum is fo’ suckas - unless it’s one of the good guys

When I say "here"

bs Wednesday, January 7th at 1:25AM EST (link)

I am not speaking for the front-page contributors. I am speculating about the overall population of RS, just based on the chatter I’ve heard over the last few weeks.

Decorum is fo’ suckas - unless it’s one of the good guys

 
 

No, we're not planning anything

Neil Stevens Wednesday, January 7th at 1:24AM EST (link)

Front page contributors write what they want, when they want to do it.

I think you’re dreaming if you think anything we actually say has any chance of reducing the cries of racism that the left throws at us, anyway.

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Is James a front pager or was this slime piece promoted? nt

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 4:37PM EST (link)

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James is a front page contributor (nt)

Neil Stevens Thursday, January 8th at 12:15AM EST (link)

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I think you and the diarist are a tag team

Doc Holliday Wednesday, January 7th at 6:03PM EST (link)

go away. I think the trolls are getting more advanced.

Molon Labe!

See my reply to Ace above (nt)

Neil Stevens Thursday, January 8th at 12:16AM EST (link)

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I didn't realize he was a front pager...that just makes this all the more egregious

AceInTX Thursday, January 8th at 12:52AM EST (link)

I asked if he was a front pager in jest because I really didn’t know he was since he’s only been a Red Stater about as long as I have.

Seams like I’m always stepping in it with the powers that be here but this whole thing is beyond the pale.

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On Blackwell's investments

Neil Stevens Wednesday, January 7th at 2:42AM EST (link)

Do these companies he invested in *only* produce these goods you mention, or do they also do other things, such that a reasonable person might not have known what you outline here?

You’re painting him as directly putting his dollars into slot machines and abortions, but you fail to link to any inforomation about the entire operations of the companies in question so that we see if that’s the whole story here.

Also, you highlight the size of his portfolio as though it’s some bad thing in itself. Why?

And in fact, isn’t the fact that he is pretty well off a mitigating factor in his investing in a couple of questionable firms? How many companies has he been invested in? How much of his wealth went into the two companies you list here?

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Neil, if he had done 5 mins of internet research

rgirlinadcity Wednesday, January 7th at 3:10AM EST (link)

(as i have just done) he would of found out that:
Barr Pharmceuticals is a large generic drug company. they do a generic version (fentanyl citrate) of a Cephalon pain medicine for cancer patients whose pain is too much for other pain meds. And that they do a generic version of a Pfizer antibacterial treatment.
http://www.barlabs.com
IGT is a gaming company however if you read their “Corporate Social Responsibility” page, they get very involved with the communities they are in. (it’s actually IGT)
http://www.igt.com

“No man is worth his salt who is not ready at all times to risk his well-being, to risk his body, to risk his life, in a great cause.” -Theodore Roosevelt

sorry, that should be

rgirlinadcity Wednesday, January 7th at 3:12AM EST (link)

http://www.barrlabs.com

“No man is worth his salt who is not ready at all times to risk his well-being, to risk his body, to risk his life, in a great cause.” -Theodore Roosevelt

kowalski

rgirlinadcity Wednesday, January 7th at 3:28AM EST (link)

and what he has under “plan b” drug is a typical birth control pill. the “plan b” drug is only two (2) pills.

(if you can’t tell, i’m a little fired up)

“No man is worth his salt who is not ready at all times to risk his well-being, to risk his body, to risk his life, in a great cause.” -Theodore Roosevelt

Plan B

James Richardson Wednesday, January 7th at 8:40AM EST (link)

Is not “a typical birth control pill,” as you sweetly explain it away. They are extremely high dosages of levonorgestrel. Low-dose birth control pills are taken on a regular basis, while the “Morning After” pill is for just that, the morning after something unexpected happened, i.e. unprotected sex or the failure of another contraceptive. If the Pope loses a night’s sleep over basic contraceptives like birth control pills, he’s out of it for a month over Plan B.

And the pope has what bearing on this discussion?

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 4:42PM EST (link)

If Blackwell is a Catholic…should that disqualify him?

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there is no reason for the attitude fella

rgirlinadcity Wednesday, January 7th at 5:19PM EST (link)

I know that Plan B is not “a typical birth control pill”. I was merely pointing out that what you had posted is not Plan B.
IMO if you are going to post something make sure you get it right.

“No man is worth his salt who is not ready at all times to risk his well-being, to risk his body, to risk his life, in a great cause.” -Theodore Roosevelt

 
 
 
 

Barr Pharmaceuticals

James Richardson Wednesday, January 7th at 8:47AM EST (link)

Produces twenty-one copyrighted drugs, several of which are contraceptive drugs like “Plan B.” I’m not here to debate the net positives vs the net negatives of this company. I merely noted the blaring inconsistencies in Blackwell’s investment portfolio and his platform..

It takes a detail-oriented manager to lead the RNC, and more specifically, one who can foresee these media blunders. Ken Blackwell, clearly, is without that ability.

Yeah...you're not here to debate anything about these companies...we should just accept your smear and characterization of Blackwells investment and move on?

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 4:43PM EST (link)

How convenient

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Are you that detail-oriented?

rgirlinadcity Wednesday, January 7th at 5:52PM EST (link)

If you have any type of investment portfolio do you know every single company and their subsidiaries? And every thing those companies and subsidiaries sell/produce? And do those companies/subsidiaries conform, totally, with your beliefs?
If so, you are the only person I “know” who does.

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My guess is he took this directly from KOS or from one of the Liberal Republican sites that hate Blackwell and SoCons of any stripe...nt

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 4:39PM EST (link)

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I disagree with his post but James deserves better than that (nt)

Neil Stevens Wednesday, January 7th at 11:37PM EST (link)

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I'd like to see him name his sources...

AceInTX Thursday, January 8th at 12:57AM EST (link)

George Jetson sources a newspaper article that this seems to be taken from nearly verbatim but he doesn’t source it. I’d be curious to see where it comes from. Maybe I shouldn’t have referenced KOS and wouldn’t have had I known he was a Front Pager…but I’ll be surprised that the source of the article he seams to have taken this from isn’t From Ohio and the info didn’t come from some Taft Voinovich Blackwell haters.

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Source Clarification: I merely chose excerpts from one of James Richardson's links above

6eorge Jetson Thursday, January 8th at 8:04AM EST (link)

I shouldn’t have left that association to the reader. My bad.

You can link to the article sited by Richardson either here

multimillion dollar portfolio

((Trying to be more explicit this time))…my response was written in the tone of “Consider the source”.

...continuation/completion of Source Clarification

6eorge Jetson Thursday, January 8th at 8:07AM EST (link)

…or above in James Richardson’s article.

((Please don’t let my poor mechanics in this thread distract from the content we’re all debating.))

another excerpt worth spotlighting...

6eorge Jetson Thursday, January 8th at 8:17AM EST (link)

To avoid any potential conflicts of interest, Blackwell has announced he is moving his multimillion-dollar portfolio to a blind trust, where investments are managed for him and he is not informed about the holdings.

Fair enough...it seams to come from a legitimate source

AceInTX Thursday, January 8th at 12:26PM EST (link)

but I have little doubt the ultimate source of the smear comes from the Taft/Voinovich machine and their opposition research

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As for Strickland...

Neil Stevens Wednesday, January 7th at 2:42AM EST (link)

He talked bad about a Democrat. Cry me a river.

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WHACK!!! nt

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 4:44PM EST (link)

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What an awful article.

Socrates Wednesday, January 7th at 2:49AM EST (link)

(I’m not a Ken Blackwell fan. If questioned before reading your piece, I would have guessed him to be a politician from Ohio, and I maybe could have pulled out Secretary of State if pressed. )

Talk about “smear campaigns”. Leading the article with what stocks a guy owns? Did you check also whether he lives in the right subdivision and or owns an American-made car?

Questioning his party loyalty by saying he supported Jimmy Carter in 1976? Thirty two years ago, I supported Jimmy Carter, too. I was 13, and I liked his smile and Sunday-school simplicity after the political turbulence of the previous decade. Times were just different then, and we were all quite a bit younger.

In general, your attacks on Blackwell seem insubstantial. I kept waiting for the real motivation, but it never came. If you want people not to draw the wrong conclusion, you’ll have to be less superficial in the future.


Gone 2500 years, still not PC.

Blackwell became a Republican because of Reagan

Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 9:23AM EST (link)

He said it in the debate. If I’m not mistaken didn’t we get Reagan because of Carter. This is a smear campaign, obviously from someone who wants someone else to win very badly, and at any cost. As someone said above, why do Republicans always seem to want to eat their own. If there was a way to put negatives in the recommend this I would.

Dead on Scope nt

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 6:51PM EST (link)

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Blackwell became a Republican because of Reagan

Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 9:23AM EST (link)

He said it in the debate. If I’m not mistaken didn’t we get Reagan because of Carter. This is a smear campaign, obviously from someone who wants someone else to win very badly, and at any cost. As someone said above, why do Republicans always seem to want to eat their own. If there was a way to put negatives in the recommend this I would.

 
 

Source: Newspaper article that considers Wal-Mart "controversial"

6eorge Jetson Wednesday, January 7th at 6:50AM EST (link)

segments from the linked article…

<font color=”MediumVioletRed”Although he opposes potential November ballot initiatives to permit slot machines at Ohio's horse-racing tracks, Republican gubernatorial candidate J. Kenneth Blackwell holds stock in the world's leading maker of slot machines.

Blackwell spokesman Carlo LoParo said that is not an issue because Blackwell opposes the expansion of state-sponsored gambling and “there's no conflict, real or perceived.”

Blackwell will fight any gambling ballot issue because he does not think such gambling provides a stable funding stream for government and that for every $1 it brings into a community, $3 are spent on social and other costs, LoParo said.

The secretary of state reported the IGT stock this week on his annual financial-disclosure statement filed with the Ohio Ethics Commission; he has listed the stock on his reports since 2003. Under Ohio law he does not have to disclose amounts, and LoParo declined to do so.

Both Blackwell and Petro have extensive investment portfolios that include both blue-chip companies, such as Johnson & Johnson, as well as more-controversial companies, including Wal-Mart.

Blackwell, who opposes abortion rights, also holds stock in Barr Pharmaceuticals, maker of the controversial Plan B, or the morning-after pill, to prevent pregnancy.

Yes

zuiko Wednesday, January 7th at 7:58PM EST (link)

Investments in controversial companies like Wal-Mart should be enough to exclude anybody. I mean where are the union bosses at the UFCW supposed to go golfing without the employees of Wal-Mart buying them their very own golf course?

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

 

What's the source of this article and where can I find it George Jetson?

AceInTX Thursday, January 8th at 12:49AM EST (link)

What’s the source of this article and where can I find it George Jetson?

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With all due respect, this article is *PATHETIC* ...

Martin Knight Wednesday, January 7th at 7:48AM EST (link)

Neil has already addressed the lame hits on his investment portfolio - does Barr Pharmaceuticals only produce the morning-after pill, and is it a major source of their profits? And quite frankly, since when did having a multimillion dollar investment portfolio indicate being a “poor manager” and since when did owning millions of dollars worth in stocks become a bad thing in the GOP?

Second, despite owning stock in IGT, a major advocate and sponsor of campaigns to bring state-sponsored gambling to Ohio, he opposed it, despite the fact that it would have certainly made him a wealthier man, and gave his reason as being that;

… he does not think such gambling provides a stable funding stream for government and that for every $1 it brings into a community, $3 are spent on social and other costs.

And your position is that this proves that he’s a hypocrite? And if he had supported it, that would prove that he’s corrupt, I’d bet - putting his pocket above the interests of Ohioans. In other words, in your book, he’d be damned either way.

As for the little factoid that he supported Carter in 1976. So? That was 32 years ago. More than three decades, and eight Presidential election cycles ago. To put the lack of relevance of this factoid in perspective, note that 32 years before Reagan won the Presidency, he was an avowed FDR Democrat campaigning for Harry Truman.

More relevant would have been information on who it was he supported in 1980. Why no curiosity on that particular Presidential election year, I wonder?

And as for his 2006 campaign; Well, quite frankly, he made a significant number of missteps, most especially misjudging the environment he was operating in, and how it had changed due to the perfect storm to the Democrats’ benefit that was the 2006 election season. I believe he probably lost himself something like 5%.

The rest of his 24% loss, came from [1] the fact that he won over the opposition of the “moderate” OHGOP establishment (which supported “moderate” AG Jim Petro) and they actively worked to undermine and sabotage his campaign. [2] Former Gov. Bob Taft (R), the man he was running to succeed, was a weakling (as “moderates” tend to be), an incompetent, and a crook, and he, more than anyone else has poisoned the environment for the GOP in Ohio up until today. [3] George W. Bush and by extension the GOP-controlled Congress’ popularity (remember Mark Foley, Jack Abramoff, etc?) was approaching that of the Ebola virus.

To illustrate just how bad (thanks mostly to Bush) the environment was for the GOP, Bob Erlich, Governor of MD, held a 55% personal approval rating and a well over 60% job approval rating … and he still lost.

And as for the email by the consultant, I notice that you’re reduced to nothing more than innuendo - of the type I generally expect from NYT reporters. Because the link you cited as your source (here) not only fails to establish that Blackwell had anything to do with Lankford’s stupid email, it actually points out that Lankford was working for the OHGOP, quite distinct from the Blackwell campaign, when he sent the email - from their headquarters in actual fact.

On a personal note, I’m sure everyone here is more than willing to entertain arguments against any of the contenders - whether it be Blackwell, Steele, Anuzis. Dawson, Saltsman, Duncan, etc. - but they have to be scrupulously researched, substantive, well-argued and keep the sleight-of-hand and unfounded innuendo at a minimum.

I repeat, with all due respect, considering that you’re front page contributor, this failed on every front.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
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Bingo on that...

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 6:58PM EST (link)

I didn’t know he was a front pager…at least he put himself there and this wasn’t promoted.

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That's a pretty piss poor

Mark Reiboldt Wednesday, January 7th at 9:00AM EST (link)

case. Ken Blackwell could do a lot for the GOP, more so than the others. If only we didn’t spend all of our time eating our own based on stupid reasoning. No wonder we’re in the position we’re in today.

 

What has been unexamined about Blackwell that you have examined

Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 9:36AM EST (link)

In your first paragraph, you end it with “Blackwell’s record has remained unexamined. That ends now.” There some angry words right there.

From all of the comments above, showing where the information has already been out there, just where have you examined anything that wasn’t already examined?

In what context

James Richardson Wednesday, January 7th at 9:48AM EST (link)

Relating to the RNC Chairmanship, has any of the above information been mentioned? I, like Robert Bluey who penned a blistering post on Michael Steele, will gladly correct or clarify the record if any factual errors are presented to me.

I didn't say you were factually incorrect

Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 11:10AM EST (link)

I said, that as the above comments have shown, you simply put all the negative info you could find (along with your opinions and prods) into one blistering post against Blackwell. Seems by your comment, that you are in competition with Mr. Bluey’s post on Steele. As I said above, you obviously want someone to win very badly, and I guess that is Steele. No one will ever like and/or support any candidate running for an elected position on every issue, but I still find Steele to have far more egregious past connections and ties mainly with his past/present involvement with GOPAC, than Blackwell to have supported Carter more than 30 years ago. Wouldn’t you think that Steele, being connected with Whitman who is proabortion, along with supporting that position on the website is alot more telling than Blackwell owning stock in a company having one bad drug as opposed to many good ones?

Let me correct something

Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 11:14AM EST (link)

When I say above, along with supporting that position on the website, I meant to imply that the website supported the position, not Steele.

 

Not so fast

James Richardson Wednesday, January 7th at 11:29AM EST (link)

Yes, I did come to Steele’s defense after Bluey’s kneecapping, but he is not my first choice for Chairman.

To date, only posts offering criticism of Steele and Duncan have surfaced, giving an incomplete, and deceiving portrayal of the 6 announced candidates vying for Chairman. While it was, indeed, a harsh criticism, it was no worse than calling incumbent Chairman Mike Duncan an “idiot” and “pinhead” without merit.

So in other words

Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 11:42AM EST (link)

RedState should assign diarists with each doing a hit piece on each of the 6. That’s sad. I think the worst part of this whole diary, and yes maybe even Mr. Bluey’s, is that it proves some Republican’s will go to any length to “eat their own.” This is what keeps the Republicans very split, and seemingly not able to come together on anything.

 

I only wish your diary qualified for the high status of "harsh criticism".

Martin Knight Wednesday, January 7th at 1:48PM EST (link)

This was just a flop all round on all points.

And let’s be honest; Mike Duncan pointing to Joseph Cao and Saxby Chambliss’ runoff victories as vindication of his term as RNC Chairman is as close to case closed evidence that he’s idiot as one can get.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
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You would have a point here Richard had you stuck to the same standard we have stuck to in our critism of Steele

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 7:21PM EST (link)

those mainly being issue positions and connections to people with nefarious political positions…

You do have a point about those calling Duncan an idiot and a pinhead and I am chief among those…but I’d hardly the aspersions are without merit…who else but an idiot and pinhead would think they deserve to be RNC chair after presiding over the two worse election debacles for Republicans sin Watergate?

All I see from you here is rumor innuendo and fabrication of issues based on accusations with no merit and no background to back anything you say up!

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Well, if you knew anything about the situation

James Richardson Wednesday, January 7th at 7:27PM EST (link)

You would know Duncan didn’t preside over the ‘06 elections, that was Ken Melhman. Duncan, the current RNC Chairman, began his term in ‘07 — i.e. well after Republicans had been taken to the wood shed by Americans.

Having served under Duncan, I can say the man is totally qualified to make another bid for Chairman. He understands the nuts and bolts of the Committee better than any other candidate.

and now the conflicts of interest come out -nt

Doc Holliday Wednesday, January 7th at 7:30PM EST (link)

Molon Labe!

No Conflict

James Richardson Wednesday, January 7th at 7:32PM EST (link)

I work for none of the candidates and have no intentions of seeking employment with the RNC in the near future. How is this, again, a conflict of interest?

you said you served under Duncan and support him

Doc Holliday Wednesday, January 7th at 7:33PM EST (link)

that might have been important information to put out in your diary, just sayin’.

Molon Labe!

I don't agree

James Richardson Wednesday, January 7th at 7:39PM EST (link)

Did you chastise Rob, who was among the 23 endorsers of Blackwell earlier this week, when he authored his “Case Against Michael Steele” post?

And I didn’t say I supported Duncan, I said I worked at the Committee while he was Chairman. I’ve offered criticisms of every candidate seeking the Chairmanship…

 

I see no conflict of interest there

Neil Stevens Thursday, January 8th at 7:53AM EST (link)

Supporting a candidate is not an ‘interest.’

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Well, I'm an "Anyone But Duncan" man myself. If I were to write a diary on candidates, I'd say it or make it VERY obvious.

Martin Knight Wednesday, January 7th at 7:39PM EST (link)

Leaving your support of Duncan out of your hit piece was bad form.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
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Same here... anybody but Duncan

zuiko Wednesday, January 7th at 7:45PM EST (link)

From what I’ve seen this is no aberration and typical of the Duncan campaign. They have been all negative all the time. I’m sick of this garbage attacking Republicans coming from other Republicans.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

I have no problem with Republicans attacking Republicans.

Martin Knight Wednesday, January 7th at 7:57PM EST (link)

Competition improves almost everything as far as I am concerned.

What ticks me off is Republicans attacking other Republicans with Democratic talking points.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
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Yes...

zuiko Wednesday, January 7th at 8:01PM EST (link)

If there is a legitimate argument, I want to see it. If it’s just stupid rumors and innuendo, I don’t want to see it. Seems like there’s been a whole lot more of the latter than the former coming from Duncan’s friends.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

 

EXACTLY! The 11th Commandment was never intended to prevent attacking liberal ideas

JSobieski Wednesday, January 7th at 8:12PM EST (link)

5 to the nth degree nt

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 8:33PM EST (link)

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Oh ... you're a Duncan supporter. Can't say I've encountered one before. Interesting. [nt]

Martin Knight Wednesday, January 7th at 7:35PM EST (link)



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

 

I knew Duncan took over from Melman in 06

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 8:29PM EST (link)

I mistakenly added 2006 in there and I thank you for pointing it out.

As for the rest of it

Having served under Duncan, I can say the man is totally qualified to make another bid for Chairman. He understands the nuts and bolts of the Committee better than any other candidate.

…and there it is…you’re a Duncan supporter…

My issue with Duncan started with the excuse making and the declaration before we even started the last campaign that we were up against it and we couldn’t win this election cycle since the atmosphere was so bad for Republicans…the Dems had more money than Republicans, There were more Republicans running in blue states than there were dems running in red states and so on and so forth…Basically we were told it was a lost cause but send your money anyway…There was never a unified message from the RNC…no coordination, no news to tell us all what was going on and no one even knew who the RNC Chair was. I had to go looking for it this past summer when someone at Red State asked me who was RNC chair and I had no clue…something that had never happened to me since Barbour was RNC chair during the 1994 elections.

Maybe Duncan raised lots of money since he’s been chairman…but what else has he done??

Oh…and since you want to hang the following around Blckwell’s neck:…

An email originating from an Ohio Republican Party consultant, sent to an undisclosed number of GOP supporters with instructions to forward, cast grave aspersions on the character and sexual orientation of Blackwell’s Democratic challenger, Ted Strickland, and his wife. In addition to directly questioning his sexuality, the email accuses Strickland of being “soft on those who sexually assault children.” How is this, my friends, honorable campaigning? Moreover, why sacrifice our principles only to lose?

are we free now to hang your piece of tabloid trash around Duncan’s?

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Good point...and Besides that...even if this information was new...so what?

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 7:00PM EST (link)

There is nothing in this post of any substance whatsoever!

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We need to learn

indym Wednesday, January 7th at 10:49AM EST (link)

from this. We need to remember Reagan’s eleventh commandment. The backbiting serves no purpose but to take down the party even further. Unless Ken Blackwell has violated criminal or ethics laws, then none of this should matter. I am not however a Ken Blackwell supporter. He lost the Ohio Governors race by a lopsided margin. He ran a bad campaign and made slanderous comments about Gov Strickland that should not be part of any campaign. And this may not sit well with redstate supporters but I believe that the party needs a new face to lead it. Also I believe that we need a chairman that will be inclusive. I do not only mean inclusive by race. We need to grow the republican party. That means growing the party in Maine as well as Mississippi. My opinion is we need a chairman and vice chairman who wil be the face of the party for the next four maybe eight years. They will need to make a long term committment to building the party from the ground up. the next chairman needs not only ot appear on the television shows but make personal appearances. I do not have a team of leaders that come to mind but I am not sure if any of the current candidates meet that criteria. On a later post I have some ideas I would like to share with Redstate about new technology that could be used by the next chairman.

And one thing Republicans need to learn

Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 11:33AM EST (link)

is that saying bad things against Democrats/Liberals doesn’t put us in a negative light as the Liberals would like everyone to believe. When Republicans believe they are “above it all” and don’t strike back, the Liberal lies take root. Look at McCain’s nice guy campaign- the NY Times did a hit piece on him supposedly having an affair, and even named the supposed woman, yet McCain was an “above it” elitist who let it go. Now the woman is defending herself, at great legal cost, to sue the NY Times. When have you seen McCain come out in defense of Palin, despite the thousands of the worst lies the Liberals are putting out against her. No, the Republicans need to fight back, and use whatever ammo they have. As far as Blackwell saying whatever he did against Strickland, all’s fair in love and politics.

The problem is that Blackwell didn't even have anything to do with that stuff.

Martin Knight Wednesday, January 7th at 11:39AM EST (link)

It was some idiot at OHGOP HQ, not the Blackwell Campaign, acting on his own.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

Committees and Campaigns...

James Richardson Wednesday, January 7th at 11:43AM EST (link)

Always, within the confines of the laws, work together. Each work to compliment the actions of the other.

And I didn’t blur the truth there, I correctly identified Gary Lankford as an OH GOP consultant, not a Blackwell staffer.

That's an embarassingly thin reed ...

Martin Knight Wednesday, January 7th at 1:43PM EST (link)

Exactly what logic did you employ to help you arrive at the conclusion that Blackwell or his campaign had anything to do with Lankford’s email? Do you have evidence that Ken Blackwell was privy to it and he approved of it before it was sent out? Or are you just letting your animus toward the man (which you have every right to) do your thinking for you?

Or do you honestly think this is the first time a supporter has embarrassed a candidate by independent stupid acts?

And furthermore, you used campaigns - in the plural i.e. “Unfortunately, smear campaigns are a sad reality of politics, but they’re evidently a staple of Blackwell campaigns, too.

The only fair way to read this is to assume that you’ve examined his previous campaigns i.e. for State Treasurer, Secretary of State, Cincinatti Mayor, etc. and discovered a pattern of such smears against his opponents for you to not only attribute Lankford’s actions to Blackwell, but also to call it a staple of his campaigns. Well, have you?



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

Well said Martin...

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 7:44PM EST (link)

all I see is imply, assume, insinuate and give nothing to back it all up!

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Look...there is nothing wrond with legitimately questioning

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 7:36PM EST (link)

a candidate’s credibility, ideology or even character when it’s warranted…Duncan’s running of the RNC for one thing…Steele’s involvement with anti SoCon groups for another…Blackwell shouldn’t be immune to it either…and there are things he should legitimately be asked to answer…but everything in the OP is nothing more than insinuation and innuendo!

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555

Doc Holliday Wednesday, January 7th at 7:47PM EST (link)

and false comparisons. I own a stock in a tobacco company, does that mean I support cancer? The whole stock thing blew me away, people should invest to make and protect their money, period. And if you own the S&P index, or Dow, or most large funds, you own tobacco stocks. If you shop at Wall Mart, you support tobacco because Wall Mart makes more off cigs than the cig companies. And if you pay taxes to the government, you really support tobacco because they make the most off cigs.

If this where a debate club, this argument would have failed. The diarist is among allies and this went down in a blaze without glory. No biggie, he might be a great writer/contributor, but this did not work, it backfired. I have said my piece here, time to reign it in, hopefully the Front Pager will write some new stuff I can agree with, we are a type of family here :)

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555 for you too

zuiko Wednesday, January 7th at 7:50PM EST (link)

You know, I’ve seen this exact same investment attack made before… during the primary fight I believe. It was beyond lame then. It is beyond lame now. It tells me the people coming up with this stuff think I am an idiot.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

 
 
 
 

And one thing Republicans need to learn

Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 11:33AM EST (link)

is that saying bad things against Democrats/Liberals doesn’t put us in a negative light as the Liberals would like everyone to believe. When Republicans believe they are “above it all” and don’t strike back, the Liberal lies take root. Look at McCain’s nice guy campaign- the NY Times did a hit piece on him supposedly having an affair, and even named the supposed woman, yet McCain was an “above it” elitist who let it go. Now the woman is defending herself, at great legal cost, to sue the NY Times. When have you seen McCain come out in defense of Palin, despite the thousands of the worst lies the Liberals are putting out against her. No, the Republicans need to fight back, and use whatever ammo they have. As far as Blackwell saying whatever he did against Strickland, all’s fair in love and politics.

Amen. No Republican can be "above it"

JSobieski Wednesday, January 7th at 7:40PM EST (link)

Being “above it” requires at least tacit agreement by the MSM.

Only liberals can be “above it”.

Republicans must do battle. Bush 1, Dole, Bush II, McCain—-nobody is above it.

Reagan made jokes about his opponents. That is the best way to respond. Strike while smiling.


 
 

This is really getting old.

NightTwister Wednesday, January 7th at 2:09PM EST (link)

Can people please quit with the 11th commandment stuff on things like this?

Agree or not, this blog is a factual argument, not backbiting. There’s an election going on here, and arguments can be made for and against all candidates, and they should be made.

true, true

E Pluribus Unum Wednesday, January 7th at 6:16PM EST (link)

In fact, it is TOTALLY necessary, when having internal GOP elections and decisions, to examine and point out every detail of interest.

We have had a pretty crappy ride pretty much since the end of the Contract With America days, and an in-house purge is vital. And purges will get nasty.

So while I call for decorum or moderation of tone might be something to consider, the 11th Commandment does not apply.

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then be the first to recommend it night -nt

Doc Holliday Wednesday, January 7th at 7:11PM EST (link)

Molon Labe!

Recommended.

NightTwister Thursday, January 8th at 7:24AM EST (link)

I don’t necessarily agree or disagree, but I’m quite sure it doesn’t meet the “11th Commandment” standard.

 
 

Thew only people that employ the 11th commandment are those

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 7:49PM EST (link)

who know they’re in the minority and someone is pointing a finger at them and pointing out their squishiness…of course they never imploy the 11th commandment to themselves and their critisisms of the “Extreme right wing of the Republican Party”!

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Legitimate arguments, sure

zuiko Wednesday, January 7th at 7:52PM EST (link)

But I don’t see a whole lot of that here.

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We need to learn

indym Wednesday, January 7th at 10:49AM EST (link)

from this. We need to remember Reagan’s eleventh commandment. The backbiting serves no purpose but to take down the party even further. Unless Ken Blackwell has violated criminal or ethics laws, then none of this should matter. I am not however a Ken Blackwell supporter. He lost the Ohio Governors race by a lopsided margin. He ran a bad campaign and made slanderous comments about Gov Strickland that should not be part of any campaign. And this may not sit well with redstate supporters but I believe that the party needs a new face to lead it. Also I believe that we need a chairman that will be inclusive. I do not only mean inclusive by race. We need to grow the republican party. That means growing the party in Maine as well as Mississippi. My opinion is we need a chairman and vice chairman who wil be the face of the party for the next four maybe eight years. They will need to make a long term committment to building the party from the ground up. the next chairman needs not only ot appear on the television shows but make personal appearances. I do not have a team of leaders that come to mind but I am not sure if any of the current candidates meet that criteria. On a later post I have some ideas I would like to share with Redstate about new technology that could be used by the next chairman.

Did you miss the part

Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 11:50AM EST (link)

where Blackwell said he would involve all 50 states and the territories?

 

What does this mean?

Bob_Frazier Wednesday, January 7th at 11:55AM EST (link)

“Also I believe that we need a chairman that will be inclusive. I do not only mean inclusive by race. We need to grow the republican party. That means growing the party in Maine as well as Mississippi.”

So what does that mean? When was this party not inclusive by race? So what does this mean? How do we grow the party in Maine as well as Mississippi?

Why Bob....We have to be moderates of course...{/sarc} nt

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 7:52PM EST (link)

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I recognize all of this

Bob_Frazier Wednesday, January 7th at 10:59AM EST (link)

These are the democrat talking points from the election for governor. As a citizen of Ohio, I thought they were as dirty then as I do now. As for landslide loser, I refer you to Boob Taft, whose incompetence and RINOISM insured that no republican will win Ohio for some time to come. I bet you loved Boob Taft, maybe mroe than you love Ted Strickland!

 

For the future, it might be good for you...

asleep06 Wednesday, January 7th at 11:13AM EST (link)

… to try to present a more accurate description of fellow conservatives. It’s not enough to have some facts; giving only facts that reflect poorly on someone while neglecting to present positive facts–especially when such facts undermine your position–results in an unfair and inaccurate portrait of a candidate. This is how it comes across to readers, who believe that members of the politically conservative community ought to benefit from even-handed criticism because they are our allies.

One detail you neglected to mention is that in addition to serving with the FRC, Blackwell also serves on the Board of Directors for the Club for Growth, which undermines your suggestion that Blackwell is fiscally unconservative.

Best wishes for your future posts.

Small is beautiful.

 

Let's face it, there are reasons why Ken Blackwell should not lead the RNC

ZootSuit Wednesday, January 7th at 2:25PM EST (link)

Just as there are reasons why EVERY candidate — as well as every non-candidate, like you and me — should not lead the RNC. No one is perfect (not even me, just ask my wife). But whatever the reasons against Ken Blackwell, James Richardson’s diary above does not state them.

This is just a piss-poor, ill-written diary mostly filled with rumors and innuendos. About the only relevant thing in it is that Ken Blackwell is not the best campaigner (and for that reason, I personally do prefer Michael Steele and possibly Saul Azunis) but even there, the article only really makes a statement and not an argument. James Richardson’s diary reminds me of nothing more than the New York Time’s hatchet job against McCain about his supposed affair with Vicki Iseman.

This was just bad and I am honestly surprised to see it on the front page of RedState. I mean, there have been things on the front page of RedState that I have disagreed with (cf. front page stuff written in support of the financial bailout) but this was more than that. At least the other things I disagreed with had some logic in them but this was just … TERRIBLE.

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Exactly. [nt]

Martin Knight Wednesday, January 7th at 5:57PM EST (link)



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

 

I agree withg everything you've written but I can't help pointing something out...

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 8:02PM EST (link)

About the only relevant thing in it is that Ken Blackwell is not the best campaigner (and for that reason, I personally do prefer Michael Steele and possibly Saul Azunis)

Steele ran anything but a stellar campaign in 1996 for US Senate…I can’t speak about Saul because I don’t know his history….but I don’t think it’s something to be held against Blackwell given that he was running after Taft had basically gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar and he had the Taft machine working against him during the general after Blackwell had beaten their boy for the nomination!

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Sorry Ace, you're wrong. Steele ran a brilliant campaign in *2006*.

Martin Knight Wednesday, January 7th at 8:08PM EST (link)

It was simply the anti-GOP environment that did him in. If he had run in 2004, he would have won.

Note that the environment was so bad that Bob Erlich (R), the Governor Steele was the Lt. Gov. to, had a 55% personal approval rating and a 60+% job approval rating and he still lost.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

I don't totally disagree...

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 8:37PM EST (link)

I think what did Steele in more than anything was his debate on MTP and 06 was a bad atmosphere for Steele the same way it was for Blackwell which was basically my point…ie that holding their election performances from 2006 is bad for both of them and shouldn’t be done.

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Steele ran a brilliant campaign in 2006

ZootSuit Thursday, January 8th at 1:02PM EST (link)

Interestingly enough, I was a Maryland resident in 2006 and Michael Steele ran a great campaign. Not only did he outperform the polls and projections but it was actually funny watching Ben Cardin panic against him. I mean, whatever the final result, Michael Steele was definitely the aggressor throught that Senate race; even many of my liberal friends (Black and White) admitted that.

Moreover, literally the only time I ever remember the Maryland GOP having any life was when Michael Steele headed it. Indeed, it was his groundwork that was, in my opinion, the underlying reason that Erhlich won in 2002.

But as Martin Knight correctly brought up, no Republican was going to win statewide in Maryland in 2006. And though the same could be said for the GOP in Ohio in 2006, Michael Steele still ran a much superior campaign to Ken Blackwell: indeed, Steele (although he still lost) outperformed the projections and polls while Blackwell underperformed.

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Talk about a smear job?!!!

AceInTX Wednesday, January 7th at 4:36PM EST (link)

Unfortunately, smear campaigns are a sad reality of politics, but they’re evidently a staple of Blackwell campaigns,

The hypocrisy of this statement after the peice you stuck it in is simply breathtaking!

First off…Blackwell’s failed gubernatorial campaign:

The to biggest factors in his defeat starts with the rampant corruption of the taft administration and the party machine that supported him. Blackwell started out behind the eight ball in his run for Governor simply by being associated with Taft by the R before his name…But as bad as that is…there is even more to the story…Blackwell won the nomination from the Taft machine backed Jim Petro in that race and the Taft machine set to work trying to destroy him from that point on!

Blackwell was a persistent critic of Taft and Voinovich and the squish leadership in Ohio and they’ve pulled out all the stops in his 2006 general election for Governor and no to stop him from ascending to the RNC.

Then there is you smears on his investments…What seir…have you invested in and are there any companies affiliated with any cause that you oppose? I would bet the farm that you don’t have a clue because I’ve tried to shape my investments to conservative friendly stocks and bonds but it’s all but impossible to know who is tangled up with whom!

As for voting for Carter 32 years ago? I would have voted for cart 32 years ago based on my political beliefs back then…and I don’t think there is a soul at Red State that would question my conservatism since I’ve gotten to be well known here.

and aren’t you one of the ones that were arguing that Romney’s conversion to the pro life cause as recently as 2 years ago shouldn’t be questioned? I may be wrong but I’m thinking we’ve been at lager heads over that one in the past…either way…I don’t see how the person he voted for over a generation ago has any more bearing over the history he built up in OH as a thorn in the side of the Liberal Republican Party Establishment there?!

How about taking Blackwell on about what he’ll do as chairman and his past political affiliations and leave is investments and the personal snarks out of it as we’ve al;l tried to do where Steele and Duncan are concerned…well…maybe not duncan cause he’s just an idiot:>)

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We don't like witch hunts here, you lost me in the first couple of paragraphs

Doc Holliday Wednesday, January 7th at 5:59PM EST (link)

You say you are going to personally end Blackwell’s “free ride” and then you proceed to tell us about companies he might own stock in???? Sir, I know a bit about politics, and a bit more about stocks, you know zero about either subject. In fact, anyone that mixes one with the other de facto has no clue.

Sir, I think you are at the wrong site.

virtual troll rate

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Doc, the guy is a frontpager. [nt]

Martin Knight Wednesday, January 7th at 6:07PM EST (link)



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

well that is too bad, at least in this case

Doc Holliday Wednesday, January 7th at 6:16PM EST (link)

it is not personal with me, I am replying to his case written in black and white. I consider it a bunch of cheap shots. Also, anyone who uses their politics when they invest, doesn’t know much about either in my opinion. I do have strong opinions on this issue and I have said them.

I have no power here, I am a “reader”, but I said nothing out of line, I responded to the words and I meant what I said. but thanks for the heads up Martin, I will probably go before he does :) But not now.

Molon Labe!

 
 
 

Well, I'm convinced.

itrytobenice Wednesday, January 7th at 11:18PM EST (link)

If that’s the best case you can make against Blackwell, he’s got my support.

The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

 

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