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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/05/22/barbour-to-hawkeye-state/#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my response was that he was not NEEDED for Senator nor to be picked by the NRSC to get behind because Florida is a Conservative state!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my response was that he was not NEEDED for Senator nor to be picked by the NRSC to get behind because Florida is a Conservative state!</p>
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		<title>By: katesmith</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/05/22/barbour-to-hawkeye-state/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>katesmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate Barbour's action on CO2 fraud. He has been in an influential position for a long time as have other power brokers and lobbyists. These people were all in a position to know the US was in the business of marketing a huge number of loans to people who had no chance of paying them back. I could have told you this was a bad idea had I known it was going on. The powerful who failed to stop this or at least loudly warn us it was going on cost us our country. At the very least, it caused the trashing of lifetimes of work and sacrifice. Therefore, their power was misused or abused and they should retire from public life in shame. Their days are long past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate Barbour&#8217;s action on CO2 fraud. He has been in an influential position for a long time as have other power brokers and lobbyists. These people were all in a position to know the US was in the business of marketing a huge number of loans to people who had no chance of paying them back. I could have told you this was a bad idea had I known it was going on. The powerful who failed to stop this or at least loudly warn us it was going on cost us our country. At the very least, it caused the trashing of lifetimes of work and sacrifice. Therefore, their power was misused or abused and they should retire from public life in shame. Their days are long past.</p>
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		<title>By: asleep06</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/05/22/barbour-to-hawkeye-state/#comment-884</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, this should put you at ease with regard to Gov. Sanford.

"While I do indeed believe in the importance of a big GOP tent, that tent must be built upon a shared agreement on the essentials - including expanding liberty, encouraging entrepreneurship and limiting the reach of government in people’s everyday lives."
-&lt;a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/06/opinion/main4997022.shtml"&gt;Mark Sanford&lt;/a&gt;

He's for a big tent, as well.

Of course, the most important point is that in the political reality we are living in, the GOP is not in trouble because we are insufficiently big tent, but because the GOP was hypocritical and didn't take a stand, policy-wise, for our beliefs.  No one's going to support a party that doesn't act on its professed values, Democrat or Republican.  The hypocrisy is why the entire political establishment is held suspect in the eyes of the general public.

So, I don't see the point in harping about the need to put "pragmatism over ideological purity" as if that hasn't been the motivating factor behind GOP actions in the past 9 years.  There's no shortage of that principle in GOP politics today.  Really.

Just look at supposed conservative rock star Cornyn on the Florida Senate race and tell me that pragmatism isn't ruling the day over ideological purity.  

I may be wrong, but to me it seems borderline paranoia to be worried about the GOP being insufficiently broad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, this should put you at ease with regard to Gov. Sanford.</p>
<p>&#8220;While I do indeed believe in the importance of a big GOP tent, that tent must be built upon a shared agreement on the essentials - including expanding liberty, encouraging entrepreneurship and limiting the reach of government in people’s everyday lives.&#8221;<br />
-<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/06/opinion/main4997022.shtml">Mark Sanford</a></p>
<p>He&#8217;s for a big tent, as well.</p>
<p>Of course, the most important point is that in the political reality we are living in, the GOP is not in trouble because we are insufficiently big tent, but because the GOP was hypocritical and didn&#8217;t take a stand, policy-wise, for our beliefs.  No one&#8217;s going to support a party that doesn&#8217;t act on its professed values, Democrat or Republican.  The hypocrisy is why the entire political establishment is held suspect in the eyes of the general public.</p>
<p>So, I don&#8217;t see the point in harping about the need to put &#8220;pragmatism over ideological purity&#8221; as if that hasn&#8217;t been the motivating factor behind GOP actions in the past 9 years.  There&#8217;s no shortage of that principle in GOP politics today.  Really.</p>
<p>Just look at supposed conservative rock star Cornyn on the Florida Senate race and tell me that pragmatism isn&#8217;t ruling the day over ideological purity.  </p>
<p>I may be wrong, but to me it seems borderline paranoia to be worried about the GOP being insufficiently broad.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/05/22/barbour-to-hawkeye-state/#comment-883</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this paleo could actively support for President if he won the primary. While recognizing the need for more a few moderates in the party, he does not systematically poke his fingers in our eyes the way McCain, Specter, Collins, Snowe, and Crist do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this paleo could actively support for President if he won the primary. While recognizing the need for more a few moderates in the party, he does not systematically poke his fingers in our eyes the way McCain, Specter, Collins, Snowe, and Crist do.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan McLaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Governor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Governor.</p>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is a wishlist for the NRSC so they don't have to spend money...the TRUTH is a Conservative can be elected in Florida so they ought to get out of the way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is a wishlist for the NRSC so they don&#8217;t have to spend money&#8230;the TRUTH is a Conservative can be elected in Florida so they ought to get out of the way!</p>
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		<title>By: SteveLA</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have little problems with her or Sanford, for that matter.

But here's the distinction between those two and Barbour, which I think is important one: Barbour would put pragmatism before ideological purity and routinely speaks of the need for Republicans to accepts graduations of conservativism.. “For a party that got 60 percent of the vote for president in my lifetime, it is silly to think everyone is going to agree on everything. We are not. In a two-party system, both parties are coalitions. We are the conservative party of the United States; the Democrats are the liberal party of the United States. And within our party, there are going to be a lot of people who are not conservative enough to get elected to Congress from Sugarland, Texas," he said at a recent Christian Science Monitor &lt;a href="http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/20/gop-can-yet-prevail-in-a-diverse-america-barbour-asserts/"&gt;breafkast&lt;/a&gt;.

In short, Barbour acknowledges the need for Crists and Huntsmans if we're ever to rebuild the party. I don't see many of his potential opponents arguing the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have little problems with her or Sanford, for that matter.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the distinction between those two and Barbour, which I think is important one: Barbour would put pragmatism before ideological purity and routinely speaks of the need for Republicans to accepts graduations of conservativism.. “For a party that got 60 percent of the vote for president in my lifetime, it is silly to think everyone is going to agree on everything. We are not. In a two-party system, both parties are coalitions. We are the conservative party of the United States; the Democrats are the liberal party of the United States. And within our party, there are going to be a lot of people who are not conservative enough to get elected to Congress from Sugarland, Texas,&#8221; he said at a recent Christian Science Monitor <a href="http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/20/gop-can-yet-prevail-in-a-diverse-america-barbour-asserts/">breafkast</a>.</p>
<p>In short, Barbour acknowledges the need for Crists and Huntsmans if we&#8217;re ever to rebuild the party. I don&#8217;t see many of his potential opponents arguing the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Vegas_Rick</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it because Governors Palin and Sanford are unapologetic about their conservative positions? Does that mean they won't support inclusive policies?

Back it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it because Governors Palin and Sanford are unapologetic about their conservative positions? Does that mean they won&#8217;t support inclusive policies?</p>
<p>Back it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/05/22/barbour-to-hawkeye-state/#comment-875</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Haley, he's folksy and incisive and a real grownup.  He has the problems you identify, which I think are probably disqualifying, plus I'm not sure his record on spending is especially good.  But this jumped out at me:

&lt;blockquote&gt;unlike Palin and Sanford, stakes the reemergence of the Republican Party as a viable political force on the shoulders of inclusive, big tent policies&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Examples of how Barbour's approach differs from those of Palin and Sanford, please?  You can't just take a swipe like that and not back it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Haley, he&#8217;s folksy and incisive and a real grownup.  He has the problems you identify, which I think are probably disqualifying, plus I&#8217;m not sure his record on spending is especially good.  But this jumped out at me:</p>
<blockquote><p>unlike Palin and Sanford, stakes the reemergence of the Republican Party as a viable political force on the shoulders of inclusive, big tent policies</p></blockquote>
<p>Examples of how Barbour&#8217;s approach differs from those of Palin and Sanford, please?  You can&#8217;t just take a swipe like that and not back it up.</p>
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		<title>By: James Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In contrast to former Lousiana Governor Kanthleen Blanco, Barbour's response to Hurrican Katrina was nothing short of impressive.

I'm pretty sure you have no idea what does and does not qualify as "testicular fortitude." 

Moreover, why is he not a "real conservative?" I'm sure you would be happy to know that Barbour was a central figure in preventing the US from adopting the Kyoto Protocol. And you also strike me as the tea-bagging type, so you should know he rejected Obama's stimulus funds.

If you have the testicular fortitude to explain your comment, I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In contrast to former Lousiana Governor Kanthleen Blanco, Barbour&#8217;s response to Hurrican Katrina was nothing short of impressive.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure you have no idea what does and does not qualify as &#8220;testicular fortitude.&#8221; </p>
<p>Moreover, why is he not a &#8220;real conservative?&#8221; I&#8217;m sure you would be happy to know that Barbour was a central figure in preventing the US from adopting the Kyoto Protocol. And you also strike me as the tea-bagging type, so you should know he rejected Obama&#8217;s stimulus funds.</p>
<p>If you have the testicular fortitude to explain your comment, I&#8217;d be interested in hearing what you have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: drbob1988</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbob1988</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 12:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a real conservative.....one with some testicular fortitude (or ovarian, whatever the case may be)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a real conservative&#8230;..one with some testicular fortitude (or ovarian, whatever the case may be)</p>
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